Uncle Buck Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Borders Jambo said: This. That post by Uncle Buck is a shocker. Why is it so shocking though? We’ve given a bang average player a 5 year deal and will struggle to move him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Guys are going a bit mental here! 21 year old and moved to a completely different culture and way of playing football. He has also changed position from a winger to a more central player. He’s quick, he’s tenacious and he’s shown he can score goals. Nine so far in his debut season is a decent return. I hate the term ‘project’ but that’s exactly what’s he is. Get off his back and support him. He’s not cost us a lot of money and I doubt he’s on a high wage. If he has another season where he hits double figures then he’ll be doing well and teams will sniff about. he has a lot to learn and his decision making needs to improve but he has time on his side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, jr ewing said: Oda much better footballer. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 42 minutes ago, jamboy1982 said: Guys are going a bit mental here! 21 year old and moved to a completely different culture and way of playing football. He has also changed position from a winger to a more central player. He’s quick, he’s tenacious and he’s shown he can score goals. Nine so far in his debut season is a decent return. I hate the term ‘project’ but that’s exactly what’s he is. Get off his back and support him. He’s not cost us a lot of money and I doubt he’s on a high wage. If he has another season where he hits double figures then he’ll be doing well and teams will sniff about. he has a lot to learn and his decision making needs to improve but he has time on his side. I knew it, young, new country etc Exactly the same that was said about Oda. Deary me what are people like you watching? Any 5 year contract is costing us a lot of money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Why is it so shocking though? We’ve given a bang average player a 5 year deal and will struggle to move him on. Just because YOU think he's bang average doesn't mean he actually is. Your opinion isn't actually that important. Hearts fans love to self congratulate themselves over how amazing a fanbase they think they are, without realising they even out the good work by being unforgiving bellends when a player has one or two poor games. Edited April 22 by The Hogfather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: I knew it, young, new country etc Exactly the same that was said about Oda. Deary me what are people like you watching? Any 5 year contract is costing us a lot of money! There's little to no chance Kenny Vargas is on a lot of money right now. And his return for that money has been pretty good considering he's fighting a losing battle against the moaning faced complainers in our support every time he sets foot on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Just now, bobskeldon said: I knew it, young, new country etc Exactly the same that was said about Oda. Deary me what are people like you watching? Any 5 year contract is costing us a lot of money! Settle big fella. Just cos my opinion differs from yours doesn’t mean you get all upset. I’m not here for an argument but since you responded. yes he is young. Just turned 21. yes he is in a new country and I can tell you for certain that football in Costa Rica is a lot different to football in Scotland. not sure about your point on oda. He’s scored something like 6 in his last ten appearances. I’m not a big fan of oda but give him another season to see how he does. your main point appears to be is that players moving here should be amazing right away or they might as well just be moved on. He’s had some great ferry decent performances and some not so decent. I pointed out that he’s quick, tenacious and seems to be able to grab a goal or two. I don’t think annoying would argue with that. 5 year contract is gonna cost a bit over the 5 years. However you get a return through him scoring or assisting and maybe if it works out we’ll sell him on for a profit. This is how we operate. Take a punt and hope a player improves enough to make some money. Speculate to accumulate. Basic football transfer strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 55 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Why is it so shocking though? We’ve given a bang average player a 5 year deal and will struggle to move him on. Hes a young kid and has been very good. Shankland was pish yesterday, in fact - you are probably amongst those questioning why Vargas didn’t cross to him earlier, without realising that Shankland was offside, and by the time he got onside the opportunity was gone. so being so ****ing dramatic and binary in your opinion. Can you not just say you felt he had a bad game and not write the kid off? Have you not ****ing learned that actually you can’t form an opinion based on one game. Half of this board wanted Naismith out, half of this board though hof was terrible. clowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 minutes ago, Bender said: There's little to no chance Kenny Vargas is on a lot of money right now. And his return for that money has been pretty good considering he's fighting a losing battle against the moaning faced complainers in our support every time he sets foot on the pitch. So you think he is a player worthy of a contract, which I think might be the longest contract we have ever offered anyone? He is that good! Think about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, jamboy1982 said: Settle big fella. Just cos my opinion differs from yours doesn’t mean you get all upset. I’m not here for an argument but since you responded. yes he is young. Just turned 21. yes he is in a new country and I can tell you for certain that football in Costa Rica is a lot different to football in Scotland. not sure about your point on oda. He’s scored something like 6 in his last ten appearances. I’m not a big fan of oda but give him another season to see how he does. your main point appears to be is that players moving here should be amazing right away or they might as well just be moved on. He’s had some great ferry decent performances and some not so decent. I pointed out that he’s quick, tenacious and seems to be able to grab a goal or two. I don’t think annoying would argue with that. 5 year contract is gonna cost a bit over the 5 years. However you get a return through him scoring or assisting and maybe if it works out we’ll sell him on for a profit. This is how we operate. Take a punt and hope a player improves enough to make some money. Speculate to accumulate. Basic football transfer strategy. Have we ever given any player in our history a 5 year deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, bobskeldon said: So you think he is a player worthy of a contract, which I think might be the longest contract we have ever offered anyone? He is that good! Think about it! he has good potential, he’s a full international. he has good pace, I think he’s not far from double figures in his first season and has scored some important goals and helped us to a comfortable 3rd place AND helped get us to the semi in the first place -and he won’t be on big money either. All of the above things are statements of fact not More importantly our manager wanted him and knows a lot more than you do or anyone else in our dramatic / childish support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: Have we ever given any player in our history a 5 year deal? yes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: Have we ever given any player in our history a 5 year deal? Yes, quite a few players. Prior to Vargas, it was Rowles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Hes a young kid and has been very good. Shankland was pish yesterday, in fact - you are probably amongst those questioning why Vargas didn’t cross to him earlier, without realising that Shankland was offside, and by the time he got onside the opportunity was gone. so being so ****ing dramatic and binary in your opinion. Can you not just say you felt he had a bad game and not write the kid off? Have you not ****ing learned that actually you can’t form an opinion based on one game. Half of this board wanted Naismith out, half of this board though hof was terrible. clowns Not sure about the poster you are responding to but my serious doubts about Vargas and a five year deal have been there since day one, not just yesterday. It sounds like you want to concentrate on a pretty short ‘highlights’ reel of his time here and on that basis offer a 5 year deal. I think it is madness! We have Oda three years FFS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 10 minutes ago, jamboy1982 said: 5 year contract is gonna cost a bit over the 5 years. However you get a return through him scoring or assisting and maybe if it works out we’ll sell him on for a profit. This is how we operate. Take a punt and hope a player improves enough to make some money. Speculate to accumulate. Basic football transfer strategy. Not trying to be funny but when did we start selling players for a profit?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: yes . Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, bobskeldon said: Who? Kye Rowles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Not trying to be funny but when did we start selling players for a profit?! Good thing is you weren’t funny. I didn’t say we had sold players for a profit but this is the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: Not sure about the poster you are responding to but my serious doubts about Vargas and a five year deal have been there since day one, not just yesterday. It sounds like you want to concentrate on a pretty short ‘highlights’ reel of his time here and on that basis offer a 5 year deal. I think it is madness! We have Oda three years FFS! clubs at our level need to take gambles, we cannot afford certainties. It’s the area of the market we operate in. Vargas has shown enough, with a little bit of composure which will come he will be a very effective player. He already has been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, AC Mallin_51 said: Vargas is a good player and a really exciting prospect. I actually felt he was nipping at Rangers defence yesterday, winning the ball, forcing errors. It’s his decision making that seriously lets him down. It’s clear to see he’s 21 and extremely naive at times. A bit of composure from him yesterday and we could very well have a cup final to look forward to (not that I’m pinning yesterday solely on him) another notable example was the last derby at tynecastle. I feel like he does the hard part and does so much right but when it comes to staying composed and making the right decision he really needs to mature. As I said I’m excited by having him tied down, I reckon he’s going to be a great player for us. But for me at the moment Oda is a better all round player. He caused Butland more problems in 10 minutes than Kenny did in 70 Not watching the same player or even the same game as me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: So you think he is a player worthy of a contract, which I think might be the longest contract we have ever offered anyone? He is that good! Think about it! Yes, I do. He's got bags of potential and is a current international. He's still quite raw but has had a decent return of goals and assists in his first season. 9 goals and 3 assists. How many players in recent years have had that kind of first season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 11 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: Have we ever given any player in our history a 5 year deal? Yea we have on a number of occasions. It’s part of the strategy. If you take a chance on a player that you think might get you financial return then you have to protect it. Hence a long term contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Just now, bobskeldon said: Not watching the same player or even the same game as me! That doesn't make them wrong. Quite the contrary in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, jamboy1982 said: Good thing is you weren’t funny. I didn’t say we had sold players for a profit but this is the plan. You said that is how we operate. Except it isn’t! Yes, it might be the plan but it hasn’t been how we operate. Our better players tend to run down their contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said: clubs at our level need to take gambles, we cannot afford certainties. It’s the area of the market we operate in. Vargas has shown enough, with a little bit of composure which will come he will be a very effective player. He already has been This phrase ‘it will come’ is banded about as if it is some pre-determined prophecy by experts. I don’t think in Vargas’s case it will. He will be away in a year’s time because whatever ‘it’ is hasn’t come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: This phrase ‘it will come’ is banded about as if it is some pre-determined prophecy by experts. I don’t think in Vargas’s case it will. He will be away in a year’s time because whatever ‘it’ is hasn’t come! depends on your criteria. Because as I said above you’re conveniently forgetting that he’s nearly on double figures for goals and has quite a few assists as well. Not just token goals either, important ones which actually got us to that semi final. All the while being played out of position. that record stands up favourably against most in the league not just at hearts. what is it about hearts fans, make minds up after a couple of games then no matter what that player does go on to slaughter them every week. Someone yesterday said we were shite becuase of Atkinson and Devlin. Who were probably out 2 best players, and did absolutely nothing worthy of criticism. We have the best support in the country but some find the act of supporting very difficult. ps - same number of league goals as maeda and rabbi Matondo and More cup goals. Whilst being forced to play as a winger and not in his actual position as a centre forward. Edited April 22 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Vargas is a great wee player. Can't wait to see him kick on further next year. He's had a great first season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 16 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Yes, quite a few players. Prior to Vargas, it was Rowles Vargas will progress, hes better already. Rowles will not and hasn’t improved at all since he arrived., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 I think the manager will make him better, but hes not a winger so we really need to develop a system where he’s up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 What I can’t understand is why people supporting the clubs decision to award 21 year old Vargas with a 5 year contract because “it will come” aren’t asking why Tait only got three years? If being a ‘prospect and only 21’ is the criteria used by many on here to defend the five year deal for Vargas, why has 18 year old Tait who is significantly better technically, on another planet in terms of decision making and three years younger got less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: What I can’t understand is why people supporting the clubs decision to award 21 year old Vargas with a 5 year contract because “it will come” aren’t asking why Tait only got three years? If being a ‘prospect and only 21’ is the criteria used by many on here to defend the five year deal for Vargas, why has 18 year old Tait who is significantly better technically, on another planet in terms of decision making and three years younger got less? He’s also slower and as of yet quite unproven at our level. I like him, good wee prospect but still has a lot to prove. Vargas as stated many times has scored almost double figures in his first season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 9 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I think the manager will make him better, but hes not a winger so we really need to develop a system where he’s up front. 100%. It's annoying as Shanks often likes to go slightly deeper and use movement and a pacy striker ahead of him to find gaps. Naismith doesn't seem to see it this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 11 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: What I can’t understand is why people supporting the clubs decision to award 21 year old Vargas with a 5 year contract because “it will come” aren’t asking why Tait only got three years? If being a ‘prospect and only 21’ is the criteria used by many on here to defend the five year deal for Vargas, why has 18 year old Tait who is significantly better technically, on another planet in terms of decision making and three years younger got less? Vargas has been a regular starter and scored 9 goals I think whereas Tait has only started 1 game. Both, however, need to improve a lot but they both certainly have potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 19 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: What I can’t understand is why people supporting the clubs decision to award 21 year old Vargas with a 5 year contract because “it will come” aren’t asking why Tait only got three years? If being a ‘prospect and only 21’ is the criteria used by many on here to defend the five year deal for Vargas, why has 18 year old Tait who is significantly better technically, on another planet in terms of decision making and three years younger got less? Maybe Tait was offered 5 years and didn’t want it. Maybe Tait didn’t need that duration in order to relocate his family from the other side of the world. what I can’t understand is . Why are you avoiding the data. 9 goals in total, 5 league goals + several assists whilst being played out of position as a winger in pretty good isn’t it. Factually speaking I mean in comparison to the rest of this league and hearts players current and ex in their first seasons. Edited April 22 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfan1874. Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 On 26/03/2024 at 15:06, jambo1998 said: New song idea similar to a Crystal Palace one I’ve seen on their Brazilian winger “When the samba rhythm starts to play Dance with me make me sway Kenny Vargas running down the wing Scoring goals makes the Gorgie sing dududududududududududududududu… x2” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 A lot of bait casting going on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 8 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Maybe Tait was offered 5 years and didn’t want it. Maybe Tait didn’t need that duration in order to relocate his family from the other side of the world. what I can’t understand is . Why are you avoiding the data. 9 goals in total, 5 league goals + several assists whilst being played out of position as a winger in pretty good isn’t it. Factually speaking I mean in comparison to the rest of this league and hearts players current and ex in their first seasons. I keep seeing this on JKB - is it true or just how fans see him? Must admit I don’t see him as a striker / no.9 because the weakest part of his game is his lack of composure. There is definitely potential there but if we rely on Vargas as s straight replacement for Shanks then next season could be a struggle! Edited April 22 by Fozzyonthefence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Maybe Tait was offered 5 years and didn’t want it. Maybe Tait didn’t need that duration in order to relocate his family from the other side of the world. what I can’t understand is . Why are you avoiding the data. 9 goals in total, 5 league goals + several assists whilst being played out of position as a winger in pretty good isn’t it. Factually speaking I mean in comparison to the rest of this league and hearts players current and ex in their first seasons. That’s a bit like..we are third so we must be a good side. The data shows we are third but the reality is we are a fair bit away from being a good side. Good sides are more consistent than we are, good sides have very distinguishable ‘patterns of play’, good sides are generally speaking ‘at it’ for most if not all of the 90 minutes! The data tells us that about good sides. If you think this team you have watched all season have any of the above attributes, please let me know. Data can tell lies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 9 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: I keep seeing this on JKB - is it true or just how fans see him? Must admit I don’t see him as a striker / no.9 because the weakest part of his game is his lack of composure. There is definitely potential there but if we rely on Vargas as s straight replacement for Shanks then next season could be a struggle! he is a striker, we have moved him. When playing central he’s scored goals mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 9 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: That’s a bit like..we are third so we must be a good side. The data shows we are third but the reality is we are a fair bit away from being a good side. Good sides are more consistent than we are, good sides have very distinguishable ‘patterns of play’, good sides are generally speaking ‘at it’ for most if not all of the 90 minutes! The data tells us that about good sides. If you think this team you have watched all season have any of the above attributes, please let me know. Data can tell lies! We are a good side in the context of Scottish football. With the quality of player available to the club. The 3rd best by a long long way. We have had the best away form for over 30 years, beat the champions home and away, got to 2 semi finals and a points tally close to the very best hearts teams which frankly we couldn’t afford to put on the pitch now - a fact that so many in our support just cannot seem to grasp. We do have distinct patterns of play, if you can’t see it then I’m afraid to say that’s your issue bob. Can we improve of course we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Has shown more than Henderson did in his 50+ appearances for Hearts (who is 2 years older) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 34 minutes ago, bobskeldon said: That’s a bit like..we are third so we must be a good side. The data shows we are third but the reality is we are a fair bit away from being a good side. Good sides are more consistent than we are, good sides have very distinguishable ‘patterns of play’, good sides are generally speaking ‘at it’ for most if not all of the 90 minutes! The data tells us that about good sides. If you think this team you have watched all season have any of the above attributes, please let me know. Data can tell lies! Starting to push the same agenda that fans of 2 prominent bottom six have been pushing lately. I wonder why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, The Hogfather said: Just because YOU think he's bang average doesn't mean he actually is. Your opinion isn't actually that important. Hearts fans love to self congratulate themselves over how amazing a fanbase they think they are, without realising they even out the good work by being unforgiving bellends when a player has one or two poor games. This is literally a fans forum where fans give their opinion. Why am I not allowed to give mine? 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: Hes a young kid and has been very good. Shankland was pish yesterday, in fact - you are probably amongst those questioning why Vargas didn’t cross to him earlier, without realising that Shankland was offside, and by the time he got onside the opportunity was gone. so being so ****ing dramatic and binary in your opinion. Can you not just say you felt he had a bad game and not write the kid off? Have you not ****ing learned that actually you can’t form an opinion based on one game. Half of this board wanted Naismith out, half of this board though hof was terrible. clowns I’m certainly not basing it off one performance. I don’t rate Vargas and haven’t for a while. I’ve not written him off. Just don’t think he merits a 5 year deal at all. He’s a bit of a nothing player, certainly not a team one. As for Naismith, I’ve no idea why you’re bringing him up. I wanted to give him the job at the end of last season. And I’ve never said Hoff was terrible. Strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: This is literally a fans forum where fans give their opinion. Why am I not allowed to give mine? I’m certainly not basing it off one performance. I don’t rate Vargas and haven’t for a while. I’ve not written him off. Just don’t think he merits a 5 year deal at all. He’s a bit of a nothing player, certainly not a team one. As for Naismith, I’ve no idea why you’re bringing him up. I wanted to give him the job at the end of last season. And I’ve never said Hoff was terrible. Strange. I wasn’t talking about you buck. More of a general observation of this board and how wrong people usually are when they take definitive binary views. feels like some are falling into this trap with Vargas when the reality is he’s been an important player for us and has done well. He does of course have significant room for improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Players sometimes have off games. Remember Rab Prentice tearing Sandy Jardine apart in a 3-0 win at Ibrox. He was superb. Next time we played them Rab never got a look at the ball. Nothing he tried came off. Looked awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 44 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: This is literally a fans forum where fans give their opinion. Why am I not allowed to give mine? I’m certainly not basing it off one performance. I don’t rate Vargas and haven’t for a while. I’ve not written him off. Just don’t think he merits a 5 year deal at all. He’s a bit of a nothing player, certainly not a team one. As for Naismith, I’ve no idea why you’re bringing him up. I wanted to give him the job at the end of last season. And I’ve never said Hoff was terrible. Strange. Of course you're allowed an opinion. that doesn't make you right about Vargas or about the deal we offered him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4 Part B Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, bobskeldon said: Not sure about the poster you are responding to but my serious doubts about Vargas and a five year deal have been there since day one, not just yesterday. It sounds like you want to concentrate on a pretty short ‘highlights’ reel of his time here and on that basis offer a 5 year deal. I think it is madness! We have Oda three years FFS! The bit in bold is the key bit eh? Desperately waiting on your congratulations for being right about him all along, sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philfigo Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) Vargas is a massively talented player and has shown that. His decision making is still raw but this comes with experience, unfortunately that experience is gained by making mistakes. The guy has shown desire on the pitch to battle for us as well. He had a poor game with his decision making yesterday but he still got himself in the positions in the first instance. The lad has got alot about him, I am in no doubt that Naismith is one of the best people to coach him on making the right choices in the final 3rd. If you want a young superstar at 20 years old that has the full package then itl cost you £10m+ which we don't have so some need to get real with there expectations when following Hearts. Edited April 22 by Philfigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Vargas will progress, hes better already. Rowles will not and hasn’t improved at all since he arrived., Kingsley doesn't cover himself in glory at their first goal yesterday but the part Rowles plays in it is utterly unacceptable. Tavernier was on the ground and still won a 20:80!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, bobskeldon said: Have we ever given any player in our history a 5 year deal? We've given plenty players 5 year contracts in the past. Some probably on a lot more money (adjusting for inflation) than Vargas is likely to be on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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