Clerry Jambo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-to-spend-more-money-on-players-as-ann-budge-talks-10-years-of-rebuilding-at-tynecastle-4559754 Nothing surprising but always good to hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 After putting the season ticket sales up I would expect nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Good too hear. Ooh, they've obviously discussed building up funds but publicly are stating they won't be. What's the chances of a surprise "war chest" being unleashed in about 5 years time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 9 minutes ago, Negan said: After putting the season ticket sales up I would expect nothing less. St sales should go up bt more, they are too cheap imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Ann says next year so not this close season then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Bazzas right boot said: St sales should go up bt more, they are too cheap imo. I think the price is very reasonable even with the increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said: Ann says next year so not this close season then? Aye, we won't buy or sign any new players in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Aye, we won't buy or sign any new players in the summer. I meant in terms of increased spending on individual players. If we have extra money then the suggestion is that we shop in perhaps a better market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 4 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said: I meant in terms of increased spending on individual players. If we have extra money then the suggestion is that we shop in perhaps a better market. Ofc it is, that is what she's saying- we have more money to spend. Edited March 20 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 28 minutes ago, Negan said: After putting the season ticket sales up I would expect nothing less. Back Up to the price they were in 2019 ? Still amongst the cheapest in the country . I really hope to **** that wasn’t a bit of a moan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 If we make the group stages of a European competition this summer , then we will receive that money the season after , I think . We have not exactly been tight with the purse strings though recently , so you would expect that to continue at the very least in the summer . Interesting times ahead though if external and non football raised funding like benefactor contributions and FOH pledges are being more directly channeled in to the first team squad . Once automatic group stages disappear we will need to be a better team and actually qualify for the groups through play offs . I see that as being the oft mused over “ next level “ . We will also get compensation for our international players and our contingent has grown recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 24 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Ofc it is, that is what she's saying- we have more money to spend. I guess time will tell and if we start in this close season to buy better then that will be fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 It’s becoming increasingly likely we will have a large Shankland hole to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 minutes ago, karipidis said: It’s becoming increasingly likely we will have a large Shankland hole to fill. We will have a few million for the sale of him to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, johnking123 said: We will have a few million for the sale of him to play with. Would rather we didn’t cash in on the pennies that we would get in the summer and have him for another season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, joondalupjambo said: Ann says next year so not this close season then? If we don't fill obvious gaps in our team this summer then the board should step down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Ex member of the SaS said: If we don't fill obvious gaps in our team this summer then the board should step down. I agree there are areas on the pitch we need to fill and has been obvious for a couple of seasons, notably right back and centre midfield. However, the club are sitting clear in 3rd and we have made it to 2 semi finals with a final a potential. I don't think we can say the board should step down, not every signing works and I think they have backed the managers we have had with funds the last few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 14 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: If we don't fill obvious gaps in our team this summer then the board should step down. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 16 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: If we don't fill obvious gaps in our team this summer then the board should step down. 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 19 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: If we don't fill obvious gaps in our team this summer then the board should step down. Guessing you weren't actually a member of the SaS? Can't imagine you storming embassies with that sort of attitude... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 19 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: If we don't fill obvious gaps in our team this summer then the board should step down. A bit dramatic. Looks like there will be a lot of players leaving and arriving so I wouldn't worry too much. Should be an exciting summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo in Bathgate Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 13 minutes ago, PapaShango said: I agree there are areas on the pitch we need to fill and has been obvious for a couple of seasons, notably right back and centre midfield. However, the club are sitting clear in 3rd and we have made it to 2 semi finals with a final a potential. I don't think we can say the board should step down, not every signing works and I think they have backed the managers we have had with funds the last few seasons. There is no doubt that the board has supported the team while building the infrastructure to expand revenue! It’s recognised now that we need to spend money on players to continue to progress on the field. It’s also good to see that Naismith is not afraid to bring youngsters from the B team into the squad and play them. Money was budgeted for Vargas who looks to be an excellent acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Skip to the last 4 paragraphs That doughball witters on more than F. Scott Fitzgerald Always with a wee tinge of snide too, the worm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 minutes ago, cosanostra said: A bit dramatic. Looks like there will be a lot of players leaving and arriving so I wouldn't worry too much. Should be an exciting summer. A lot? who you thinking? I've got a bad feeling Naismith is going to hold on to Sibbick and Grant for another year. Both players should be moved on and replaced with better. Beni also possibly leaving on free. Otherwise our only real sellable assets are Shankland and Cochrane I'd say, but we won't accept a low offer for Shankland so I reckon he'll see out his contract here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) Wage structure increase,there's maybe 1 or 2 players worth paying a fee for,the rest we could get on pre contracts. Smart business. My advice if you can secure a player of Armstrongs quality and you have just a half decent striker,you will comfortably secure 3rd most seasons. 30 appearances, 6 goals, 10 assists. You sign a solid central midfield player that is a leader. The potential is huge for this club. Edited March 20 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 48 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: If we don't fill obvious gaps in our team this summer then the board should step down. Jesus Christ 🤣 we are in the best shape we’ve ever been in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Hopefully quality over quantity, move a few out and bring a few quality players in. No wholesale changes required, especially now we have 2 or 3 from the B team involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, karipidis said: It’s becoming increasingly likely we will have a large Shankland hole to fill. If we make the group stages we have six million pounds coming in . If Shankland leaves this summer it will be for a few million . If not then he stays and keeps banging in goals and we still have the six million guaranteed income . Personally I would keep him and let him leave for nothing after helping us to another third place finish . Either way I am quite relaxed about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Sooks said: If we make the group stages we have six million pounds coming in . If Shankland leaves this summer it will be for a few million . If not then he stays and keeps banging in goals and we still have the six million guaranteed income . Personally I would keep him and let him leave for nothing after helping us to another third place finish . Either way I am quite relaxed about him Same, it's a win win situation whatever the outcome for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 42 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Skip to the last 4 paragraphs That doughball witters on more than F. Scott Fitzgerald Always with a wee tinge of snide too, the worm Needed more mentions of knitting and biscuits imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Sooks said: Needed more mentions of knitting and biscuits imo Don't forget the scones 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Chimp said: Same, it's a win win situation whatever the outcome for me. Totally man . I do feel like an actual reasonable “ next level “ for us would be improving in quality enough to get to European group stages through the qualifiers . If we could do that then we are looking at a decent jump in income Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 9 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Don't forget the scones 🙂 Part of me hopes it is a dig at the idiots who trot out those ageist and misogynist tropes on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, GBJambo said: Would rather we didn’t cash in on the pennies that we would get in the summer and have him for another season Say we don't cash in, and reject a large sum of money for him. He comes into pre-season unhappy, has no Euro's as motivation at the seasons end...where are we then? It would be stupid not to sell him when his stock is high. As I've said before, even Spurs sold Kane when they had to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGwash Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Ex member of the SaS said: If we don't fill obvious gaps in our team this summer then the board should step down. You clearly have no idea what the functions and responsibilities of the board are. Hint - it's not deciding which right back to sign. Despite the sniping, the Hearts board gave done an incredible job in transforming the club off the pitch and generating income which allows us to continually increase our player spend. Undoubtedly there will be decisions that people with disagree with (every decision will have some dissenters), particularly around recruitment of managers but after many decades of supporting Hearts, the club is in the best place it has ever been in my lifetime. This board is unquestionably the best we've had in the last 70 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Say we don't cash in, and reject a large sum of money for him. He comes into pre-season unhappy, has no Euro's as motivation at the seasons end...where are we then? It would be stupid not to sell him when his stock is high. As I've said before, even Spurs sold Kane when they had to. We won't reject a large sum of money for him though? The club have already said they would sell him at the right price.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 9 minutes ago, Chimp said: We won't reject a large sum of money for him though? The club have already said they would sell him at the right price.. Exactly my thoughts too . We would be sitting there with about six million coming in guaranteed , and then we would have the choice of keeping Shankland or adding another two or three million to what we know is coming in ………… I could handle either of those two situations . A minimum of eight million guaranteed income with no infrastructure commitments would allow us to replace his goals and improve the team overall you would think / hope . If nobody offers a fair price then we keep him and I think we all know enough about what sort of a man Shankland is to know he would not toss in the towel if nobody met our valuation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 18 minutes ago, Chimp said: We won't reject a large sum of money for him though? The club have already said they would sell him at the right price.. I hope not, personally. We need to improve our player trading model, and a big sale is the perfect way to do that. I was just replying to the poster saying he would turn the money down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sooks said: Exactly my thoughts too . We would be sitting there with about six million coming in guaranteed , and then we would have the choice of keeping Shankland or adding another two or three million to what we know is coming in ………… I could handle either of those two situations . A minimum of eight million guaranteed income with no infrastructure commitments would allow us to replace his goals and improve the team overall you would think / hope . If nobody offers a fair price then we keep him and I think we all know enough about what sort of a man Shankland is to know he would not toss in the towel if nobody met our valuation This is it, I really can't see that somehow. He's already stressed numerous times how much he's loving it being at Hearts and very aware he's under contract here. Low offer - club rejects and Shanks understands, gets his head down and does the business for us again next season, also putting himself in the shop window for anyone who wants him on a free. High offer - club accepts, Shanks happy and club happy we've made a big profit on a player which can then be invested to sign similar or higher calibre of player in future. Edited March 20 by Chimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 41 minutes ago, Sooks said: Needed more mentions of knitting and biscuits imo 39 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Don't forget the scones 🙂 ahem.....here we go....another dusting off of one of my favourite pictures: Ann Budge!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Chimp said: Nope I really can't see that somehow. He's already stressed numerous times how much he's loving it being at Hearts and very aware he's under contract here. Low offer - club rejects and Shanks understands, gets his head down and does the business for us again next season, also putting himself in the shop window for anyone who wants him on a free. High offer - club accepts, Shanks happy and club happy we've made a big profit on a player which can then be invested to sign similar or higher calibre of player in future. That is how I see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Craig_ said: Guessing you weren't actually a member of the SaS? Can't imagine you storming embassies with that sort of attitude... Try the Scottish ambulance Service..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Jim Panzee said: ahem.....here we go....another dusting off of one of my favourite pictures: Ann Budge!!!!!! Imagine we signed an Australian player for the womens team 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Sooks said: Imagine we signed an Australian player for the womens team 😮 would have to double point out said player is Australian.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Jim Panzee said: would have to double point out said player is Australian.... Former window cleaner , Australian female footballer …………. It would be like Hiroshima at ground zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Sooks said: Former window cleaner , Australian female footballer …………. It would be like Hiroshima at ground zero now you're just being 'Greedy'.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Jim Panzee said: now you're just being 'Greedy'.... I 8 being greedy but sometimes you just have to say “ when in Hamilton “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said: If we don't fill obvious gaps in our team this summer then the board should step down. You do realise that THE BOARD don't sign players yes? This is the job of the Director of Football and the First Team Coach and his team yes? The board look after the solvency of the club and the future, they only sanction the funds to pay for new players, they don't negotiate the deals themselves. So please tell me my the board should completely resign for the perceived failures of the people scouting and signing the players they say they need?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Is this thread Budge IN or Budge OOT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 For the record I'm Budge IN. Pro Budge. All for Budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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