Diadora Van Basten Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I think it’s good management by Clark to take four keepers rather than the normal three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I think it’s good management by Clark to take four keepers rather than the normal three. I don't think you can take 4 to the Euro's though, think 3 is the maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Clearly the keepers will be assessed closely in training and in games so that we can assess how shite Kelly is compared to the other three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, Bunny Munro said: I think 4 will drop out of that squad for the euros. 2 to get it down to 23, and 2 to be replaced with Hickey and McGregor. I'd assume Ralston, Cooper, Taylor and one of the keepers. The current squad has far too many defenders. I think this is pretty close but suspect Taylor might make it as he could want four wing-backs. Not saying I'd take him! In which case, someone else drops out. Either another CB or a midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Klack Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Well surprised with Clark calling up Gordon - but delighted for the big man. Class keeper and classy guy. Well done Craig. Fair play to Steve Clark - didn’t expect him to call up CG. 👏👏👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Mallin_51 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Craig Gordon is and always will be my eternal hero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Fantastic! Well done Shankland, Clark and Gordon. 🫡 Steve Clarke presser coming on SkyS news soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 8 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Clearly the keepers will be assessed closely in training and in games so that we can assess how shite Kelly is compared to the other three Kelly is shite. He couldn't even tighten the velcro of our 2 keepers gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 11 hours ago, Doc Rob said: Both Clark and Kelly had a shot for Scotland. Neither did all that well, but Clark’s form is better. Gordon I am certain will go. Clarke has to pick three keepers, and the third is never getting a game unless both the others get injured. Even if Clarke has zero intention of playing him, I think he’ll be in the squad for his experience and leadership. 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 50 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Was there ever a crossover with McGregor, McLaughlin or McCrorie at rangers? 42 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: I don't think clarke watches old firm games. If he did, Ralston and Souttar would not be in there He doesn’t need to watch. They’re all world class players. Even McCrorie. 🤦🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Craig Gordon will undoubtedly go to the Euros as he's the best keeper Scotland have. By some distance. Edited March 12 by Carter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 44 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: Clarke doesn't seem to pick many players based on form, unfortunately. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 49 minutes ago, PapaShango said: He's a far better player than Taylor that's for sure. How him and Ralston make squads is a complete mystery. Because the play for Conspiracy/Victim/Persecuted FC. Both are incredibly average players it must be said. The alien keeps Ralston out of the side most weeks. Quite happy to have Kingsley focus solely on club tbh but I fully concur that he's a far better player than Taylor. I'd need to check the stats but I'm pretty sure Kingsley will have played as many games for Hearts as he did in his career to the point he joined us. It's been a move that's worked out superbly for both parties. Naismith understandably rates him very highly. Hopefully a new contract is being discussed as he's one of the best players at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 47 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: Clarke doesn't seem to pick many players based on form, unfortunately. Think this is a slightly harsh assessment. I think he does pick players who are in form. The problem is that he is overly loyal to players who have done it for him before, even when they are bang out of form. Hence Marshall going to the last Euros as first choice, which cost us badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just heard Gary Locke say Allan Forrest should be in there too 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 12 minutes ago, Doc Rob said: Think this is a slightly harsh assessment. I think he does pick players who are in form. The problem is that he is overly loyal to players who have done it for him before, even when they are bang out of form. Hence Marshall going to the last Euros as first choice, which cost us badly. Dropped Jacob Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meister Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I think Liam Kelly will and should miss out on the Euros. Craig Gordon brings so much experience with him, even if he doesn't play (and I don't think he will) it's a no brainer to take him and help guys like Gunn and Clarke out. We do seem quite 'defence heavy' but that might be an indication of how we are going to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Stupid scenario I know but let’s say Forest scores a hat trick in every remaining Hearts game. Does he make the Germany squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meister Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 And as a wee aside, I do like seeing Scotland players plying their trade across Europe and further afield, when was the last time you had a Scotland squad with players from teams like Real Sociedad Al Ettifaq Bologna FC Copenhagen Helfy positive to see !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said: Stupid scenario I know but let’s say Forest scores a hat trick in every remaining Hearts game. Does he make the Germany squad? Probably not (sadly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Assuming everyone is fit and McGregor and Hickey are back playing that makes 27 players. Kelly (obviously 4th choice out of the keepers), Cooper (not playing for Leeds), Ralston and Taylor (both on the periphery of things), are the 4 who will drop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 22 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Dropped Jacob Brown. He's been out injured for weeks and will be for months mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, OmiyaHearts said: I don't think clarke watches old firm games. If he did, Ralston and Souttar would not be in there Souttar has been superb for Rangers and their overall form has coincided with him being back fit week in week out. He's a possible starter for Scotland if this continues! Ralston won't be in Germany unless there are several injuries. This is a 25 man squad and Hickey and McGregor are certain picks in the 23 man squad. Kelly, Ralston and Taylor will all drop out + 1 other if everyone is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, BigAlim said: Clearly the keepers will be assessed closely in training and in games so that we can assess how shite Kelly is compared to the other three Can't figure that out at all, they'd be as well taking Grace Kelly and she's been deid 40 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Gunn, Gordon, Clark should be the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Carter said: Craig Gordon will undoubtedly go to the Euros as he's the best keeper Scotland have. By some distance. But Clarke has made the observation that he's only played cup games and that the level of opposition hasn't been high. I took that to be SC covering his bahookie and paving the way for possibly dropping Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 52 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Dropped Jacob Brown. I think he is injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Gunn, Gordon, Clark should be the 3. They will be. They've done the decent thing by Kelly by including him in the upcoming squad for the March friendlies but the writing is on the wall for him now. Craig's performance last night, in front of Steve Clarke, will have cemented his place. His very presence, experience and professionalism is huge for the squad. He will obviously play in the semi v Rangers but I expect him to get a couple of post split starts too, with 3rd place wrapped up. Edited March 12 by Luckies1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, BigAlim said: Clearly the keepers will be assessed closely in training and in games so that we can assess how shite Kelly is compared to the other three This. He was shocking in the cup game v Morton. Hope Clarke witnessed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 14 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: But Clarke has made the observation that he's only played cup games and that the level of opposition hasn't been high. I took that to be SC covering his bahookie and paving the way for possibly dropping Craig. Time will tell I guess. I still believe we'll see CG back as first choice keeper at Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: Just heard Gary Locke say Allan Forrest should be in there too 😆 Sorry, that's nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 any hibs players ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, HopeDiouf said: How many have the hobos got in the squad? 🤭 Ryan Christie? Oh, hang on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, OmiyaHearts said: I don't think clarke watches old firm games. If he did, Ralston and Souttar would not be in there Strange that Porteous, Cooper and McKenna are all in there and you’ve chosen to pick out Souttar. He’s miles better than those three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 27 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Strange that Porteous, Cooper and McKenna are all in there and you’ve chosen to pick out Souttar. He’s miles better than those three. Souttar has 15 clean sheets in his 26 starts for Rangers this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said: Stupid scenario I know but let’s say Forest scores a hat trick in every remaining Hearts game. Does he make the Germany squad? Couldn’t give a shit because we’ll have won the cup and finished 2nd in the league(probably) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, JimmyCant said: Couldn’t give a shit because we’ll have won the cup and finished 2nd in the league(probably) We certainly would have to have had a mighty failure in defense to not at least have a cup win 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, I P Knightley said: But Clarke has made the observation that he's only played cup games and that the level of opposition hasn't been high. I took that to be SC covering his bahookie and paving the way for possibly dropping Craig. It doesn't matter if its Maradonna or Jimmy McGuffy, if a dangerous shot comes at you, you've got to save it. Actually a rather daft question from Clarke. I'm glad Craig got tested last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Uncle Buck said: Strange that Porteous, Cooper and McKenna are all in there and you’ve chosen to pick out Souttar. He’s miles better than those three. "I'm not going to be taking all those centre-backs [to Germany]," Clarke said of the seven central defenders he has selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Rudi Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 The problem for Gordon is that Gunn has been injured and missed a few internationals. In normal circumstances I would have expected CG to get a run out in the friendlies but Gunn needs games too. Difficult one for Clarke as I'm sure he would have liked to have had CG back at least as his number 2. It's quite telling that he remarked that he has only had 3 games against poor opposition. My feeling is CG needs more games to be sure of going to the Euros. Hopefully two more cup games to go where he will certainly be tested more. A start in a friendly would do his chances the world of good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 24 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said: The problem for Gordon is that Gunn has been injured and missed a few internationals. In normal circumstances I would have expected CG to get a run out in the friendlies but Gunn needs games too. Difficult one for Clarke as I'm sure he would have liked to have had CG back at least as his number 2. It's quite telling that he remarked that he has only had 3 games against poor opposition. My feeling is CG needs more games to be sure of going to the Euros. Hopefully two more cup games to go where he will certainly be tested more. A start in a friendly would do his chances the world of good. I think this will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Thought that Kingsley might have been in with a shout. Mr consistent, and certainly as good if not better than some that have been picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Deevers said: Thought that Kingsley might have been in with a shout. Mr consistent, and certainly as good if not better than some that have been picked. The fact that he can cover several positions very well, should make him a certain pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 This squad is only really missing McGregor and Hickey from the usual suspects. If you add those two then four of the players selected will miss out on the euros. Kelly, Ralston and Cooper certainly wouldn’t be in for me. Picking the extra man is actually quite difficult. Keepers Gordon Clark Gunn Right wing backs Hickey Patterson Right centre backs Porteous Souttar Central centre backs Hendry Hanley Left centre backs Tierney McKenna Left wing backs Robertson Taylor Centre mids McGregor Gilmour McLean Ferguson Attacking mids McTominay McGinn Christie Armstrong Strikers Shankland Adams Dykes Basically two for each spot in our system plus an extra striker and keeper. Realistically I’d want rid of Porteous but don’t think that’ll happen until he starts selling the jerseys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, BigAlim said: This squad is only really missing McGregor and Hickey from the usual suspects. If you add those two then four of the players selected will miss out on the euros. Kelly, Ralston and Cooper certainly wouldn’t be in for me. Picking the extra man is actually quite difficult. Keepers Gordon Clark Gunn Right wing backs Hickey Patterson Right centre backs Porteous Souttar Central centre backs Hendry Hanley Left centre backs Tierney McKenna Left wing backs Robertson Taylor Centre mids McGregor Gilmour McLean Ferguson Attacking mids McTominay McGinn Christie Armstrong Strikers Shankland Adams Dykes Basically two for each spot in our system plus an extra striker and keeper. Realistically I’d want rid of Porteous but don’t think that’ll happen until he starts selling the jerseys Assuming availability I think you have the 23 + Taylor who I believe will be the one who misses out. Tierney can play left wing back as can Hickey if absolutely necessary, so he is not required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: The fact that he can cover several positions very well, should make him a certain pick Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Hearing Clarke speak on BBC pretty obvious that Adams and Dykes are still his first choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Rudi Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Luckies1874 said: Assuming availability I think you have the 23 + Taylor who I believe will be the one who misses out. Tierney can play left wing back as can Hickey if absolutely necessary, so he is not required. I'd agree with you. Taylor should be the one that drops out.... For the reasons you stated. I'm not a big fan of Armstrong but he does have his uses. He would be next in line for missing out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 28 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said: I'd agree with you. Taylor should be the one that drops out.... For the reasons you stated. I'm not a big fan of Armstrong but he does have his uses. He would be next in line for missing out for me. He's been Southampton's player of the season mate. In the form of his life and an absolute certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Is this the first time that two goalkeepsers are selected from the same club.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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