Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (Migrating from the Nieuwenhoff thread Nobody refers to the top tier of France as "The French League One." It's Ligue 1 and everyone knows what you're talking about. Similarly with the Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A, Eridivisie, and so on and so forth. We used to be able to say the "SPL" and that was pithy enough but since the merger it's "the SPFL Premiership" or at best the "Scottish Prem," which just makes it sound like the poor cousin to the English counterpart. (Even worse, the SPFL adopted the ridiculous "Championship" moniker for the second tier in an even more obvious sop to imitating the English setup.) Rest of the thread context below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 23 hours ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: Minor quibble, but after the re-merger, it's the SPFL Premiership, not the SPL, which annoyingly (and stupidly in terms of branding IMO) doesn't have a quick handle other than the Scottish Prem. My (probably equally stupid) suggestion continues to be that the league should come up with a nickname that's uniquely Scottish like "prìomh lìog" or something in Scots that's more like "La Liga" or Bundesliga and doesn't require making it sound like the poor cousin of the EPL, but thankfully nobody listens to me anyway. 16 hours ago, naeclue said: The Stoater for me. Championship is the Wee Stoater, then The Beezer, wee Beezer. I am serious. Gallus names. But need a new chief - there's nothing remotely Stoating about Neil Doncaster - the man's had some kind of charisma bypass imo. 3 hours ago, Musemic said: League Yin League Twa League Three League Fower Sorted 10 minutes ago, Hackney Hearts said: The Braw League The Bonnie League Dreich League 1 Dreich League 2 Sorry - this is digressing from the magnificent Calem. Renaming the Scottish leagues requires a separate thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Torrance Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Call it something exotic, like "Écosse". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, Jack Torrance said: Call it something exotic, like "Écosse". Or the derrière Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 You get pundits, and people in the media, who still refer to our top league as the SPL. It's something that shouldn't annoy me, but it does. You also get some pundits, and fans alike, who call the top league the SPFL We are never going to be taken serious if the people who are there to talk about our game can't even get the name of it correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I hate that we took the English namIng structure, we also need bigger leagues & less of them too SPFL 1 SPFL 2 Then the regional pyramid below, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oda be a JT Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I like the @Musemic suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtgj Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I can't say I've ever said 'Scottish' before any of the names of our leagues. I just call them the Premiership, Championship, League 1 and League 2. It's the diddy leagues that I clarify as being English. Having said that, I've never liked that league 1 is the third league and league 2 is actually the fourth. Bring back division 1-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveandal Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Division 1 Division 2 Division 3 Division 4 Sorted. In my mind it's the premier league... I've not moved on since the 80s.... in many ways to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 LeagueyMcleague face div 1-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 35 minutes ago, boag1874 said: I hate that we took the English namIng structure, we also need bigger leagues & less of them too SPFL 1 SPFL 2 Then the regional pyramid below, Did the English not copy our name first, for the premier league? There should really be just 2 leagues and then regional ones below that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, XB52 said: Did the English not copy our name first, for the premier league? There should really be just 2 leagues and then regional ones below that I just mean the divisions below being the championship, L1 & L2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ministryofdad Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Well done you've got me on a rant this morning. SPL Football manager 2008 bank of Scotland SPL Abbreviated to spl Then lower leagues There are too many leagues in Scotland Too many teams in Scotland with a say. Only 14 professional full time clubs in the country with a fan base to support it. Why on earth is there 42 clubs under the 2nd merger malgumated into now the so called SPFL What's professional about part time referees in a supposed professional league? Why do clubs like stenhousemuir, airdrie, forfar ect who are not even full time clubs in the league still obtain some sort of clout over non clubs not on the board. The current board has James bisgrove on it (rangers CEO) guess where he came from and now is responsible for marketing for the league...... The former collapsed RBS Marketing department for sport sponsorship for RBS. Same bank the UK tax payer owned 84% of and bailed out to the tune of £45 BILLION only to be sold for 1.2 billion losing us 40 billion we all are having to pay now for still. This clown on now on the board has done nothing to attract sponcership and was only put on it because celtic turn was over. I could go on and on and on. Blood pressure is spiking and it's not even 07:30 yet. Scottish football is a circus. A cesspit of deluded blinkered old farts reminiscing, fantasising about the good old days. Those days being over 40 ****ing years ago whilst everything else has surpassed it and Scottish football is the old man in the care home. Only thing that works is his tadger. His nurse is angry with him as he has only pissed himself yet again! Day dreaming of the crowds at the 78 cup tie at home to Morton when a pint was 2p. Scotland were gonna win the world cup in Argentina and clubs held all the power regarding contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, DG_HMFC said: You get pundits, and people in the media, who still refer to our top league as the SPL. It's something that shouldn't annoy me, but it does. You also get some pundits, and fans alike, who call the top league the SPFL We are never going to be taken serious if the people who are there to talk about our game can't even get the name of it correct. ‘SPL’ should now mean Scottish Premiership League, rolls of the tongue much better than ‘SPFL Premiership’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percival King Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, DG_HMFC said: You get pundits, and people in the media, who still refer to our top league as the SPL. It's something that shouldn't annoy me, but it does. You also get some pundits, and fans alike, who call the top league the SPFL We are never going to be taken serious if the people who are there to talk about our game can't even get the name of it correct. A lot of them don't even seem to know what the two biggest clubs are called, and aren't called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, DG_HMFC said: You get pundits, and people in the media, who still refer to our top league as the SPL. It's something that shouldn't annoy me, but it does. You also get some pundits, and fans alike, who call the top league the SPFL We are never going to be taken serious if the people who are there to talk about our game can't even get the name of it correct. I thought SPS for Scottish PremierShip might have caught on. It's a bit of a fudge but better than SPL and SPFL which are clearly wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Top league = The Sausage Supper Second = The Haggis Third = Neeps Fourth = Tatties Edited March 7 by BigAlim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naeclue Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Diddy League for 4th division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 We should name the leagues in Gaelic just to confuse the commentators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 The Premier League League 1 League 2 League 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 It's because we are drowned out by bigger neighbours. I always thought it was beyond arrogant that they called it The Football League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I like to think that Hearts are currently sitting 3rd in ... ... The Big Yin whilst Aberdeen are dropping like a stone towards ... ... The Wee Yin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, TexasAndy said: It's because we are drowned out by bigger neighbours. I always thought it was beyond arrogant that they called it The Football League. That's because they were first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: That's because they were first. What difference does that make? It wasn't a British league so why not called the English football league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ministryofdad Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 30 minutes ago, Pingu said: I thought SPS for Scottish PremierShip might have caught on. It's a bit of a fudge but better than SPL and SPFL which are clearly wrong! Sps is already taken by the scottish prison service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 25 minutes ago, davemclaren said: We should name the leagues in Gaelic just to confuse the commentators. With the Highland League and Lowland League to become "Teuchter League North" and "Teuchter League South". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I always felt when the SPL and SFL merged, they should have just reverted to the SFL name again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Thought we all called it the Mickey Mouse league. Then there's the Goofy League. The Peter Pan League. And finally the Donald Ducked League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 The Black Rooster Premiership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, XB52 said: Did the English not copy our name first, for the premier league? There should really be just 2 leagues and then regional ones below that Definitely. Can still mix it up for the league cup for a bit interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Couldn't care if it was called the McDonalds Scottish Premier League if it brings more money in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Shite Shitey Shiter Shitiest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 9 hours ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: (Migrating from the Nieuwenhoff thread Nobody refers to the top tier of France as "The French League One." It's Ligue 1 and everyone knows what you're talking about. Similarly with the Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A, Eridivisie, and so on and so forth. We used to be able to say the "SPL" and that was pithy enough but since the merger it's "the SPFL Premiership" or at best the "Scottish Prem," which just makes it sound like the poor cousin to the English counterpart. (Even worse, the SPFL adopted the ridiculous "Championship" moniker for the second tier in an even more obvious sop to imitating the English setup.) Rest of the thread context below. Nobody knows or cares about Ligue 1 - it's a diddy league. Edited March 7 by briever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Most things are getting renamed nowadays so best let the lefty 'mob' give us a new inclusive name for it.....what wrong thread? In all seriousness I go for The Boaty McBoatface Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Always liked the 'SPL' actually. 2 leagues of 20 teams SPL1 and SPL2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 3 hours ago, boag1874 said: I hate that we took the English namIng structure, we also need bigger leagues & less of them too SPFL 1 SPFL 2 Then the regional pyramid below, This but: Scots League 1 Scots League 2 Even the English commentators couldn't get that wrong. Simples. Would be internationally recognised. Edited March 7 by Pans Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambie15 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: LeagueyMcleague face div 1-4. 🤣👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, Daveandal said: Division 1 Division 2 Division 3 Division 4 Sorted. In my mind it's the premier league... I've not moved on since the 80s.... in many ways to be honest. Or better still First, Second, Third and Fourth Divisions. (My mind and preferred nomenclature has not moved on from the 60s!) Preceded by "Scottish League" if addressing a wider audience than Scotland . Couldn't be clearer or simpler. Never understood why "Premiership" is superior to "Champiomship". And calling the winners of the second tier "Champions" is embarrassing ... even when, or maybe especially when, it was us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, davemclaren said: That's because they were first. They like to think their codified variant of rugby was the first proper football too. Very much the Hibs of international football in terms of their dubious claims to have been first at everything and - given their colossal resources - their serial failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 41 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Or better still First, Second, Third and Fourth Divisions. (My mind and preferred nomenclature has not moved on from the 60s!) Preceded by "Scottish League" if addressing a wider audience than Scotland . Couldn't be clearer or simpler. Never understood why "Premiership" is superior to "Champiomship". And calling the winners of the second tier "Champions" is embarrassing ... even when, or maybe especially when, it was us The entire notion of having a First Division underneath a Premier League, as we did originally when the smaller leagues were created, was a linguistic embarrassment - not that other countries haven’t followed suit. I wouldn’t be against simply calling them Divisions 1 to 4. That’s what they are. I don’t suppose it would satisfy the need for something snappy that could be marketed, though. Maybe we should just branch out and call them after major figures in history (the culture war that would ensue would be a wonder to behold) or the four highest mountains or something like that. “Today in the Nevis league, Heart of Midlothian take on Aberdeen at Tynecastle”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, TexasAndy said: What difference does that make? It wasn't a British league so why not called the English football league? For the same reason FA is the not called the EFA. It was the first football association. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyskey Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: For the same reason FA is the not called the EFA. It was the first football association. and [the football club] from Edinburgh was the first football club in the world 1824 with full records, membership and accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, whyskey said: and [the football club] from Edinburgh was the first football club in the world 1824 with full records, membership and accounts. So I've heard. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol1874 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 League set up 2 18 20 Top tier play each other home and away 17 times no relegation, all live on Sky with a contracted two hour phone in after each examining the religious leanings of the officials, presenters, commentators and programme sellers. Possibly a ‘Gladiators’ type interlude with nominated fans, no protective equipment and whatever weapons came to hand on the way in. Other two tiers play each other home and away. TV deal will be shite with fixtures when Sky / Viaplay have air time to fill - basically an extension of the current one. Top tier - Buckfast Elite League Second Tier - Tennent’s Championship Third Tier - White Lightening League I think this could be rolled out pretty seamlessly and gives everyone what they want. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, davemclaren said: We should name the leagues in Gaelic just to confuse the commentators. Scottish Premier League = Priomh Liog n h-Alba Scottish League one = Liog n h-Alba a h-aon Scottish League two = Liog n h-Alba dha Scottish League three = Liog n h-Alba tri That would be fun and games for Sportscene final score presenters reading the classified results 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 The Anti Celtic Conspiracy Premiership The Anti Celtic Conspiracy 1st Division The Anti Celtic Conspiracy 2nd Division The Anti Celtic Conspiracy 3rd Division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Torrance Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: Or the derrière 😆 Good shout! We could market the bottom six and play offs, after the split, with that. Obviously anyone being promoted via the play offs, will have taken their place in the magnificent Ecosse, up the derriere... Edited March 7 by Jack Torrance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmfc1965 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, TexasAndy said: What difference does that make? It wasn't a British league so why not called the English football league? It wasn't specifically an English league when formed either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 8 minutes ago, Jack Torrance said: 😆 Good shout! We could market the bottom six and play offs, after the split, with that. Obviously anyone being promoted via the play offs, will have taken their place in the magnificent Ecosse, up the derriere... Definitely want to avoid the split though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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