Section Q Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 6 hours ago, cosanostra said: Realistically, even with only a year left of his contract, we can still probably get £3m-4m for him. If he does well at the Euros, he'll have plenty of offers for big money. The Glasgow clubs won't get a sniff in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScandinavianJambo Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Come the summer we should not take less then 5 million for him as that's how much he will be worth for us next year (just like now).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 8 hours ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: From a quick look it looks like Larsen had a run of 4 years and Boyd had a couple of back to back years above it, so must just be SPFL era. Not bad company a poacher supreme and the best player to ever grace the modern era in Scotland imo.Shanks is a far better player than Boyd though. Edited March 4 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 12 hours ago, Victorian said: Old Firm clubs had an open goal to invest in a terrific, proven, improving, supremely confident scoring machine. Old Firm clubs reverted to the default position of not investing money within Scotland. Things have now moved on. If they want him in the summer then it should be £8m. Or we keep him, sell him elsewhere, or somehow extend his stay. By the time we get group stages in Europe this year then we’ll be able to offer him a better package plus a signing bonus. Plus we’ll also have extended revenue from the hotel. Win win situation for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 8 hours ago, Sydney said: I'd prefer to keep him until the end of his contract. The joy we get seeing him score week in and week out outweighs the joy any transfer fee would give me. What a table. Shankland will be on quite a few radars, no doubt about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisyboy7 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 15 minutes ago, Wee Mikey said: What a table. Shankland will be on quite a few radars, no doubt about it. He has had a good few mentions on sky sports new too.....he will have plenty offers in the sumer and deserves it...so glad he has another year to go so if he does it will be a good fee or he stays o his small wage which is bonkers when we have offered him a small fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I had actually not even realised it was his 20th league goal yesterday. He should be an absolute shoe in for POTY (should be from fellow pros and media but no doubt it will go to Tavernier or similar if Rangers win it). Love reading these records, what a player. These types of player don't come round at Tynie too often. It breaks my heart that we're likely to lose him in the summer!!! Quite simply, completely irreplaceable and our team will only get weaker if he does leave - no two ways around that. Holding out hope against hope that, if he does leave, it is with a Scottish cup winners medal around his neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 He has to be in for several awards at end of season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 What a football player , absolutely deadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1984 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Insane that Shanks has scored more than the rest of our team put together! No one else even half way to ten goals this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On 04/03/2024 at 09:22, SMJ_1874 said: By the time we get group stages in Europe this year then we’ll be able to offer him a better package plus a signing bonus. Plus we’ll also have extended revenue from the hotel. Win win situation for us! Praying this comes to fruition. The story Shankland could write at Hearts is worth more than whatever we could get by selling him. I just hope that he's as keen to stay. He could build a genuine legacy here that is looked back on in 20, 30 years in the same bracket as Robbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 hours ago, OTT said: Praying this comes to fruition. The story Shankland could write at Hearts is worth more than whatever we could get by selling him. I just hope that he's as keen to stay. He could build a genuine legacy here that is looked back on in 20, 30 years in the same bracket as Robbo. The club have never not invested in the squad however the calibre we’ve had are not good enough to get out the group stages in the conference league. We weren’t even good enough for 3rd place in our own tinpot league. Next year will be even tougher to qualify for group stage football. We know we need better than we have but we’re on the right track at the moment. We need to consolidate 3 place for the next 2/3 years and give ourselves a chance to get through the qualifiers into group stage football as that’s where the riches are. A lot of our European campaign money from last season was spent on the hotel. We had to get the infrastructure in place first to enable us to put distance between 3rd and 4th and get closer to the top two. This has been achieved this season and going forward we will only get stronger imo. We will need to spend wisley and up the ante with quality players coming in to give us every chance. We have some cracking players coming up from the academy and the balance in the squad is as good as it’s been in the last 20 years. I’m sure the club will fight tooth and nail to tie shanks down to an improved contract unless someone comes in with will money for him after the euros. He’s well worth £20-£25k pw in today’s market. Our dilemma will be do we break the bank for him or do we have a salary cap as such whereby he moves on for further riches elsewhere? I don’t think we could even buy a new striker of Shanks calibre for £4M and especially when you see the money Deidco have spent on average rubbish. Shanks would score twice the figure he’s on if he was at either one of the OF. He must be considered for a starting spot at the euros and it’ll be interesting to see how much he’s in SC’s plane at the up and coming friendlies. Agreed about him staying and becoming legendary here but at the end of the day, money talks. I wonder what Bauld, Wardhaugh, Conn, Battles, Walker and Robbo would do if they were born into this era whereby you’d never need to work after your football career if you get the right move. Big decisions to be made in the summer. At least we should know if we’re in the Europa league or conference league and that may dictate wether shanks sees out the next 18 months on his contract or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, SMJ_1874 said: The club have never not invested in the squad however the calibre we’ve had are not good enough to get out the group stages in the conference league. We weren’t even good enough for 3rd place in our own tinpot league. Next year will be even tougher to qualify for group stage football. We know we need better than we have but we’re on the right track at the moment. We need to consolidate 3 place for the next 2/3 years and give ourselves a chance to get through the qualifiers into group stage football as that’s where the riches are. A lot of our European campaign money from last season was spent on the hotel. We had to get the infrastructure in place first to enable us to put distance between 3rd and 4th and get closer to the top two. This has been achieved this season and going forward we will only get stronger imo. We will need to spend wisley and up the ante with quality players coming in to give us every chance. We have some cracking players coming up from the academy and the balance in the squad is as good as it’s been in the last 20 years. I’m sure the club will fight tooth and nail to tie shanks down to an improved contract unless someone comes in with will money for him after the euros. He’s well worth £20-£25k pw in today’s market. Our dilemma will be do we break the bank for him or do we have a salary cap as such whereby he moves on for further riches elsewhere? I don’t think we could even buy a new striker of Shanks calibre for £4M and especially when you see the money Deidco have spent on average rubbish. Shanks would score twice the figure he’s on if he was at either one of the OF. He must be considered for a starting spot at the euros and it’ll be interesting to see how much he’s in SC’s plane at the up and coming friendlies. Agreed about him staying and becoming legendary here but at the end of the day, money talks. I wonder what Bauld, Wardhaugh, Conn, Battles, Walker and Robbo would do if they were born into this era whereby you’d never need to work after your football career if you get the right move. Big decisions to be made in the summer. At least we should know if we’re in the Europa league or conference league and that may dictate wether shanks sees out the next 18 months on his contract or not. It won't be tougher next year to qualify for group stage football. Because of the expansion of all three European competitions, associations placed 8-12 will have the cup champion/third place team qualify for the Europa playoff, which offers the parachute to the UECL groups. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024–25_UEFA_Europa_League Further, the new format makes the chance of getting a rotten draw (like getting the eventual runner-up as your #2 seed) significantly lower, as everyone plays two different teams in each seeding level, regardless of your own seeding level. It probably moderately increases our chances of making it to the knockout round, which at our current level will always be a stretch but one I think we could manage if everything falls right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 03/03/2024 at 18:37, tian447 said: He was eating pies during the game the other night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Shankland’s contract at Hearts is set to expire in the summer of 2025 and he has reportedly told the club he will not be penning an extension. Football Insider understands he has rejected multiple contract offers from the club, including the most lucrative deal in the Edinburgh outfit’s history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Shankland’s contract at Hearts is set to expire in the summer of 2025 and he has reportedly told the club he will not be penning an extension. Football Insider understands he has rejected multiple contract offers from the club, including the most lucrative deal in the Edinburgh outfit’s history. Without a reference, that ☝️ is worth nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Shankland’s contract at Hearts is set to expire in the summer of 2025 and he has reportedly told the club he will not be penning an extension. Football Insider understands he has rejected multiple contract offers from the club, including the most lucrative deal in the Edinburgh outfit’s history. We will just need to enjoy him for the rest of his time as a Hearts player if this is true, irreplaceable tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, Boyces beard said: We will just need to enjoy him for the rest of his time as a Hearts player if this is true, irreplaceable tbh Rangers will try again in summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Boyces beard said: We will just need to enjoy him for the rest of his time as a Hearts player if this is true, irreplaceable tbh He done an interview recently saying he’s happy to pick up talks with the club in the summer again. If he’s told the club he’s no signing an extension dunno why he would say that publicly. BBC done an interview way him the day with their usual trying to get him away from us. can you reach your ambitions with a club like hearts? he said well we ain’t winning the champions league. Other than us having no chance of winning the league his comments about winning things at other clubs that you couldn’t win here didn’t worry me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 19 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Shankland’s contract at Hearts is set to expire in the summer of 2025 and he has reportedly told the club he will not be penning an extension. Football Insider understands he has rejected multiple contract offers from the club, including the most lucrative deal in the Edinburgh outfit’s history. That trusted source football “insider “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 16 minutes ago, Wee Mikey said: Without a reference, that ☝️ is worth nothing. https://x.com/BBCSportScot/status/1766092253276365081?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Rangers will try again in summer. They never tried . They said themselves they had no money in January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 13 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Rangers will try again in summer. They have never tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, GBJambo said: They never tried . They said themselves they had no money in January Rangers have no money😂🤣 you believe that ? I hate them mate,but I'm wise to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, Bongo 1874 said: Rangers have no money😂🤣 you believe that ? I hate them mate,but I'm wise to them. Regardless, there were no offers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, db211833 said: They have never tried 3 minutes ago, GBJambo said: They never tried . They said themselves they had no money in January Heart of Midlothian chair Ann Budge admits the Scottish Premiership club and Lawrence Shankland are still not "close" to agreeing a contract extension for the 28-year-old Scotland striker but talks are ongoing. (Daily Record) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: https://x.com/BBCSportScot/status/1766092253276365081?s=20 Decent answer to a terrible question I would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, BigAlim said: Decent answer to a terrible question I would say in-form Lawrence Shankland admits he would find it tempting to leave Hearts - if another club came in and offered him something the Gorgie club cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Rangers have no money😂🤣 you believe that ? I hate them mate,but I'm wise to them. Sure a couple of their Jan signings were loads with obligation to buy. You can read into that what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 29 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Shankland’s contract at Hearts is set to expire in the summer of 2025 and he has reportedly told the club he will not be penning an extension. Football Insider understands he has rejected multiple contract offers from the club, including the most lucrative deal in the Edinburgh outfit’s history. Where is the report? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Homme said: Sure a couple of their Jan signings were loads with obligation to buy. You can read into that what you want. Same strategy as us with Vargas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 40 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Rangers will try again in summer. What do you mean by again. They haven't tried before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 26 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Heart of Midlothian chair Ann Budge admits the Scottish Premiership club and Lawrence Shankland are still not "close" to agreeing a contract extension for the 28-year-old Scotland striker but talks are ongoing. (Daily Record) So he hasn't said he won't sign a new contract, as you posted. Equally, before you say anything, he hasn't said he will either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 23 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Same strategy as us with Vargas? We've got an option to buy, not an obligation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: So he hasn't said he won't sign a new contract, as you posted. Equally, before you say anything, he hasn't said he will either Hopefully he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 34 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Heart of Midlothian chair Ann Budge admits the Scottish Premiership club and Lawrence Shankland are still not "close" to agreeing a contract extension for the 28-year-old Scotland striker but talks are ongoing. (Daily Record) Where in that does it state that rangers have tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: in-form Lawrence Shankland admits he would find it tempting to leave Hearts - if another club came in and offered him something the Gorgie club cannot. Did they also ask him if water is wet? If any player is playing at Hearts and, say, Everton comes along and offers life-changing money, are you seriously saying you'd do differently in his shoes? Or that we should expect otherwise? 2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Heart of Midlothian chair Ann Budge admits the Scottish Premiership club and Lawrence Shankland are still not "close" to agreeing a contract extension for the 28-year-old Scotland striker but talks are ongoing. (Daily Record) So he's clearly not told the club he won't be signing an extension if talks are ongoing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Bongo 1874 said: Same strategy as us with Vargas? Vargas is buttons, they are obliged to pay millions whereas we have an option we can turn down. The chat wasn't about Vargas and Hearts anyway though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Usual off the scale nonsense from our resident insider/head of scouting/tactical advisor. FWIW I don't think he will be a Hearts player in the summer but he has not said one word out of turn or shown anything but 100% professionalism. The one thing we won't be stupid enough to do is bench him until he signs a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Shankland’s contract at Hearts is set to expire in the summer of 2025 and he has reportedly told the club he will not be penning an extension. Football Insider understands he has rejected multiple contract offers from the club, including the most lucrative deal in the Edinburgh outfit’s history. Well short of what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, i wish jj was my dad said: Usual off the scale nonsense from our resident insider/head of scouting/tactical advisor. FWIW I don't think he will be a Hearts player in the summer but he has not said one word out of turn or shown anything but 100% professionalism. The one thing we won't be stupid enough to do is bench him until he signs a contract. It's a tough situation in all honesty. Would be tremendous if we could keep him beyond the summer and get him to extend. Looks increasingly unlikely. We maybe just need to enjoy him for the next few months and get as good deal as possible in the summer. He'll be a huge loss when he inevitably goes. Unrealistic to expect anything broadly similar to replace him. It's hard when we've gone so long without a proper goalscorer. To have waited almost a quarter of a century between Robbo and Shanks is almost unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 The boys been phenomenal and he's a modern day legend after 2 seasons. But we should be getting players like him. This shouldn't be a one off. We're the 3rd biggest club in the league. We should always be aiming for euro football and we should win the majority of our league games. That's not ambition that's reality. Obvs we hugely underachieved in the past but hopefully that is the past now. My hopes are that once euro group stage football is confirmed we can then offer him an even better contract, make it really worth considering. If he gets better elsewhere then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, Carter said: It's a tough situation in all honesty. Would be tremendous if we could keep him beyond the summer and get him to extend. Looks increasingly unlikely. We maybe just need to enjoy him for the next few months and get as good deal as possible in the summer. He'll be a huge loss when he inevitably goes. Unrealistic to expect anything broadly similar to replace him. It's hard when we've gone so long without a proper goalscorer. To have waited almost a quarter of a century between Robbo and Shanks is almost unbelievable. I cried in 86 when I thought Robbo was going. I broke my heart when he did leave. As much as I loved Robbo he wasn't even our best player then so I absolutely get what losing Shanks will mean but we have to accept it and do what is right for tge club. If that means cashing in in the summer and taking Europe plus a £5m transfer or seeing his contract out and letting the club reset our attacking options I don't know but I'm privileged to say I saw 90% of Robbo's games and 90% of Shanks. That's not bad for any fan 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 39 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: I cried in 86 when I thought Robbo was going. I broke my heart when he did leave. As much as I loved Robbo he wasn't even our best player then so I absolutely get what losing Shanks will mean but we have to accept it and do what is right for tge club. If that means cashing in in the summer and taking Europe plus a £5m transfer or seeing his contract out and letting the club reset our attacking options I don't know but I'm privileged to say I saw 90% of Robbo's games and 90% of Shanks. That's not bad for any fan 👍 Totally concur. I was going to argue your point about Robbo not bring our best player at that time. In my view, and its probably never changed to this day, Craig Levein was the best player at Hearts at that point. It's probably easy to forget or overlook how could he actually was. He had every attribute to have been the amongst the best central defenders in Britain / Europe at the time. We've never had anything remotely close who excelled in almost every conceivable area that he did. We've seen something in Shnakland over the past 2 years that I never thought would happen again. You need to accept all that's been good from this most welcome aberration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, jr ewing said: Well short of what he wants. What does he roughly want mate ? Personally speaking,and just my opinion. We need 3/4 players that can take the pressure off him,even if he was to sign it. Edited March 8 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 8 minutes ago, Carter said: Totally concur. I was going to argue your point about Robbo not bring our best player at that time. In my view, and its probably never changed to this day, Craig Levein was the best player at Hearts at that point. It's probably easy to forget or overlook how could he actually was. He had every attribute to have been the amongst the best central defenders in Britain / Europe at the time. We've never had anything remotely close who excelled in almost every conceivable area that he did. We've seen something in Shnakland over the past 2 years that I never thought would happen again. You need to accept all that's been good from this most welcome aberration. Bang on. Robbo was beyond special but I think a lot of people around at the time forget how good Levein was. Miller, McLeish, Hansen and even Narey and Hegarty (Evans at Villa anaw) were all top, top class but Levein was actually a better all rounder. We had Mclaren, McPherson and JC who were all arguably more talented than Robbo. None of them carried the same talisman than Robbo but looking back what a special period that was when Scotland was easily in the top 5 of European leagues. We've had Rudi and now Shanks sincebut let's get some perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 If Levein hadn't been crocked playing Hibs reserves, he would have ended up in a top two team in England, Germany, Italy etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 2 hours ago, i wish jj was my dad said: Bang on. Robbo was beyond special but I think a lot of people around at the time forget how good Levein was. Miller, McLeish, Hansen and even Narey and Hegarty (Evans at Villa anaw) were all top, top class but Levein was actually a better all rounder. We had Mclaren, McPherson and JC who were all arguably more talented than Robbo. None of them carried the same talisman than Robbo but looking back what a special period that was when Scotland was easily in the top 5 of European leagues. We've had Rudi and now Shanks sincebut let's get some perspective. Not trying to be funny but did you watch all of Robbo’s career at Hearts? Just seems a bit odd having him as our fifth best player when he is the only true Hearts legend of all the players you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oda be a JT Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 14 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Shankland’s contract at Hearts is set to expire in the summer of 2025 and he has reportedly told the club he will not be penning an extension. Football Insider understands he has rejected multiple contract offers from the club, including the most lucrative deal in the Edinburgh outfit’s history. I just read the full article that came from, https://www.footballinsider247.com/rangers-will-have-to-pay-record-breaking-fee-for-lawrence-shankland-after-multiple-offers-rejected/ saying Rangers will need to break the Scottish transfer fee (Brown £4.4m) to get him, then that quote above followed up by Rangers made several late bids in January but we were not willing to sell mid- season Complete made up pish. Edited March 9 by Oda be a JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 7 hours ago, colinmaroon said: If Levein hadn't been crocked playing Hibs reserves, he would have ended up in a top two team in England, Germany, Italy etc. Without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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