Radio Ga Ga Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Pretty much sums it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: No, just visiting. I had friends in the embassy at Islamabad. You cosmopolitan ssshhhcemie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 32 minutes ago, Ked said: You cosmopolitan ssshhhcemie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Ricky explains it better than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 6 hours ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: I can tell you're struggling to understand it, but I'm not sure how that's my problem. My prior post clearly told a very brief anecdote about a JKB member who said on this very forum that he wasn't religious but that he saw the Orange Order as part of his "Protestant heritage." Does that make the Order's ****ing nonsense a religious thing or not? It would be sophistry of the highest order to say it wasn't religious at all but when the people involved are claiming very plainly religious trappings while calling themselves not religious, it should be a signal that something else is going on here. You're leaning on 'history' like a drunkard uses a lamp post for support, but if you go to it for illumination instead it's possible to unpack it without resorting to silly basic polemics. The primary source of the conflict in Israel is Zionism and the resistance to it by the prior residents of the territory who contest the creation of the state of Israel. If you want to see how tangential religion is to the conflict, consider what happens to the rights on an Israeli citizen if they convert to Islam, or what rights are conferred on a resident of Gaza who converts to Judaism. The answer is exactly the same: nothing. Absolutely nothing. An huge proportion of the Israeli population are secular atheists but they widely support the brutal action in Gaza. Again, "history" is great for illumination here. I think you're trying to use "evolution" as some kind of shibboleth here or for point-scoring. I think you're doing it out of extreme ignorance, but at the very least be explicit about what you're saying. It's not me that is failing to understand anything, it's your closed mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 hours ago, Ked said: Like it or not violence has secured everyone who posts on here a cushy existence. Relatively . BTW I think it's you who has missed evolution and history. The world in essence is tough and violent. I think the new testament with Jesus as the leader was progression. I'm not advocating violence buddy I'm just saying that both violence and enlightenment are tied. I don't dispute that violence is part the our existence and has been throughout history. BTW - PMSL, if you want to believe in a book and a religion, that is your issue, and it doesn't make it right. You can quote testaments till the cows come home, they are just from a book which has no evidence. It doesn't change the fact that Religion is the cause of wars and violence, which in a civilised and society should be a thing of the past. The religious freaks don't want peace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 11 minutes ago, H2 said: It's not me that is failing to understand anything, it's your closed mind! What a riposte. Do tell me more about my closed mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ked said: New testament was the socialism of world politics back in the day mate. Yeah the Magnificat (Luke 1:46:55) is a revolutionary banger. Tear down the tyrants, send the rich away empty, lift up the lowly, feed the hungry. ✊ That said the OT gets a bad rap because of some (admittedly awful) passages, but it also has kickers like "I hate your solemn assemblies, I despise your festivals, but let justice roll down like water, and righteousness like an everflowing stream." Yeah man. Edited February 27 by Watt-Zeefuik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 hours ago, Ked said: New testament was the socialism of world politics back in the day mate. JC was woke AF. He'd be crucified today but this time by his followers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 9 hours ago, Tazio said: Quakers are pretty cool. Collectively, probably. But two of the biggest tosspots I've ever met in my life were Quakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 12 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: What a riposte. Do tell me more about my closed mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 14 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: Yeah the Magnificat (Luke 1:46:55) is a revolutionary banger. Tear down the tyrants, send the rich away empty, lift up the lowly, feed the hungry. ✊ That said the OT gets a bad rap because of some (admittedly awful) passages, but it also has kickers like "I hate your solemn assemblies, I despise your festivals, but let justice roll down like water, and righteousness like an everflowing stream." Yeah man. Lovely stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 So, have y'all worked out who has the best imaginary friend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 8 minutes ago, Ulysses said: So, have y'all worked out who has the best imaginary friend? Fred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 I think people who judge themselves as critical thinkers are bigger arseholes than religious folk tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said: I think people who judge themselves as critical thinkers are bigger arseholes than religious folk tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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