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12 hours ago, JimmyCant said:

Ernie started with Aberdeen and actually had a right good goal to game ratio for them. Was miles past his best when he got to us though.

 

i remember a guy called Don Murray who was another cart horse of a centre back, a wee bit after Ernie’s time but in the same mood, although he was a centre half mostly

 

I played a year at junior for Arniston Rangers and we played a Hearts 11 pre season once. I was a skinny wee 17 year old winger. Murray had just signed and we’d been warned about him. First 5 minutes and I’ve got the ball 30 yards out and face him up. He went right through me like a ton of bricks. I could barely walk for 3 weeks 😂 

Don Murray stayed in Lithgae used to go out most Friday nights with Mrs Murray and get pished. Friend used to baby sit their kids said he came home in a right state regularly.

Due to VAR Don Murray wouldn't be able to play nowadays. He was one dirty player.

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1 hour ago, Gorgiewave said:

Not the oldest but Peter McCloy is still among us aged 77. An unused substitute against Bayern Munich and I think the oldest player ever named in a Hearts matchday squad (42).

 

Wow !

What a great stat. The Girvan Lighthouse !

Completely forgot we had him briefly.

 

( Big Craig may beat that before he packs in tho 🙂)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, JimmyCant said:

Thanks. Still makes me shudder 😂 

Came from Cardiff City I think. Was a butcher to trade and had a shop in Hopeman after he retired. 

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2 hours ago, Gorgiewave said:

Not the oldest but Peter McCloy is still among us aged 77. An unused substitute against Bayern Munich and I think the oldest player ever named in a Hearts matchday squad (42).

A few years ago he handed me the wee goody bag you get when you play Turnberry. He looked exactly the same as he did when he was at our club. 

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8 minutes ago, Dougie Masterton said:

Came from Cardiff City I think. Was a butcher to trade and had a shop in Hopeman after he retired. 

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Ally Alexander

First time that I saw ,Ernie Winchester was at Easter Road playing for Scottish Schoolboys as captain and at centre- half!

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15 hours ago, maroonsgotop said:

think I was at his debut, midweek friendly against Eintracht Frankfurt from memory 1-1 draw

I remember that game as well, can’t remember how 

he played though!

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Willie Wallace is 83 and currently lives in Australia, I believe. He'll be remembered most by the media in Scotland for Celtic, European Cup Final and Scotland at Wembley 1967.  However, his career records show most games and goals for.......Heart of Midlothian!

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maroonsgotop
58 minutes ago, Dsjambo said:

I remember that game as well, can’t remember how 

he played though!

did ok from memory and scored the goal !!!!

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3 hours ago, EIEIO said:

Don Murray stayed in Lithgae used to go out most Friday nights with Mrs Murray and get pished. Friend used to baby sit their kids said he came home in a right state regularly.

Due to VAR Don Murray wouldn't be able to play nowadays. He was one dirty player.

John Greig once visited our school and was asked who was the dirtiest player in Scottish football. He replied without hesitation Arthur Thomson.

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57 minutes ago, Chillidigits said:

John Greig once visited our school and was asked who was the dirtiest player in Scottish football. He replied without hesitation Arthur Thomson.

 

Arthur was more a hammer-thrower than anything particularly nasty, as far as I remember. Not the greatest player ever to play in maroon.

 

Eddie Thomson, now there was a footballer.

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3 hours ago, Dougie Masterton said:

Came from Cardiff City I think. Was a butcher to trade and had a shop in Hopeman after he retired. 

He actually made a fairly solid impact on our defence when he first arrived. He had years of experience playing in Europe with Cardiff City in the Cup Winners Cup, due to the Welsh Cup winners gaining entry for many years.

 

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19 hours ago, dannymack said:

As posted on another thread regarding our 150th anniversary, i was thinking back to the 1974 Centenary when the club hosted events when players of yesteryear were invited on behalf of the club to celebrate the 100 years, no doubt at present the club will have plans to host similar events but I was wondering for now who is the oldest living ex-Hearts player that we are still fortunate to have with us ? 

 

These images below are from the 50s which give or take a year or two are 70 years ago, the younger players on show here are a decent enough gauge to look at but unfortunately simply due to the years rapidly whizzing by most if not all have passed. 

 

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Great photos,awesome players.

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4 hours ago, JTJ said:

Willie Wallace is 83 and currently lives in Australia, I believe. He'll be remembered most by the media in Scotland for Celtic, European Cup Final and Scotland at Wembley 1967.  However, his career records show most games and goals for.......Heart of Midlothian!

 

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On 30/01/2024 at 23:14, GorgieJim said:

Davie Holt 88

 

On 30/01/2024 at 23:49, davemclaren said:

He was the first Hearts player I was aware off as I got a picture card of him at Primary School.  

 

On 30/01/2024 at 23:54, Lone Striker said:

Davie Holt looks to be the oldest of the famous players (87 I think).  A few in their early 80s.   There could  be a few  fringe players from the late 40s or early 50s still alive.

 

For some context of footballers reaching old age, Jimmy Millar of the Rangers passed away 15 months ago aged 88.   He was one of many with degenerative brain impairment, due to the era of heavy leather balls.  Freddie Glidden made it to 90 without the same suffering.

 

SOme photos were posted on here about 10 years ago from the WIllie Bauld dinners.  Amazing turnout by players from his era, most of them  now gone.  

 

Jim Cruikshank, Chris Shevlane & Davie Holt. 

Football straps were so much simpler back in those days. 

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Schevchenko

There is a fella called Peter Smith who is from Mid Calder who played a few games for us in the 50's then Dave Mackay took his place.  He then went to Dundee Utd and ended up an Alloa legend.  I'm sure he is still with us and will be in his 80's.  He is a top guy as well.

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What a great thread . Davie Holt still goes to Queens Park games and he told me that he was offered a new contract and had arranged a new house then it was withdrawn by the board and he stayed in Glasgow. He said Tommy Walker was in tears telling him. 

I was at the Eintracht Frankfurt game and remembered a shot hitting the bar at the Gorgie Road end and Ernie blasting it in from a yard out on the volley. We were desperate for a hero back then and easily impressed. 

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6 minutes ago, jimbojambo said:

What a great thread . Davie Holt still goes to Queens Park games and he told me that he was offered a new contract and had arranged a new house then it was withdrawn by the board and he stayed in Glasgow. He said Tommy Walker was in tears telling him. 

I was at the Eintracht Frankfurt game and remembered a shot hitting the bar at the Gorgie Road end and Ernie blasting it in from a yard out on the volley. We were desperate for a hero back then and easily impressed. 

To be fair, if Holt played nowadays he would likely be castigated for complaining that Hearts did the dirty on him at the tail end of his career. 🥸

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On 30/01/2024 at 23:23, brownkg said:

I am sure he hit one down the slope at Easter road that ended up in the links :pleased:

Aye, Lundin Links.

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Davie Holt and Chris Shevlane in 2022. Sadly Chris passed away last year.64274e13-ea7b-4f86-9cf1-e2e9f8e2bca8.jpeg.9152d4481901eafe0e44ddd1c4c178e0.jpeg

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2 hours ago, Andrew Gilbert Wauchope said:

Aye, Lundin Links.

:lol:

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I hope no-one minds, but this thread brings back a warm memory (not Hearts-related) for me. My grandfather, Patrick Mooney was born in 1887 in Salsburgh. A miner by trade, he was also, in his words, a no-nonsense, old-fashioned centre half. 6ft tall, fit as a flea but no silky smooth ball playing skills. He played professionally for Albion Rovers, Ayr United and, very briefly, for Arsenal. He also played for Celtic reserves. He was adamant he was never a "Celtic player" - you were only that in his mind if you played for the first team. Some time after they won the European Cup in 1967, Celtic organised a gala dinner to celebrate and all former players (including reserve players) were invited. At the event, a place was reserved at the top table for the then oldest former player, which happened to be my grandfather. Unfortunately, he was unable to go because of ill-health but it was a matter of great pride for him that he had been invited. We should never forget these guys. They are the heart and soul of our club, and of others.

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Hearts Heritage

Here is the list of players who were born in 1944 or before where we don't have a record of death.

Apologies in advance if we have anyone on the list who has passed away.

Any help in updating the list much appreciated.


Jim Rodger: Born Fri 15-09-1933
John Thomson: Born Mon 22-10-1934
John Docherty: Born Thu 28-02-1935
Davie Holt: Born Fri 03-01-1936
Bobby Campbell: Born Wed 07-10-1936
Peter Smith: Born Sun 18-07-1937
Alan Finlay: Born Mon 09-01-1939
John Ferguson: Born Wed 14-06-1939
Gordon Marshall: Born Sun 02-07-1939
Billy Higgins: Born Fri 15-03-1940
Willie Wallace: Born Sun 23-06-1940
Jim Irvine: Born Sat 17-08-1940
Bobby Kemp: Born Fri 15-08-1941
Robin Stenhouse: Born Sun 29-03-1942
Bobby Ross: Born Sun 10-05-1942
Roy Barry: Born Sat 19-09-1942
David Ross Johnston: Born Sat 28-11-1942
Boston Glegg: Born Sun 29-11-1942
Jim Murphy: Born Sun 29-11-1942
George Peden: Born Mon 12-04-1943
Tommy Murray: Born Tue 01-06-1943
Tommy Henderson: Born Sun 25-07-1943
Rab Aitchison: Born Thu 11-11-1943
John Calder: Born Sat 08-07-1944
Donald Ford: Born Wed 25-10-1944

 

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1 hour ago, Bickfest said:

I hope no-one minds, but this thread brings back a warm memory (not Hearts-related) for me. My grandfather, Patrick Mooney was born in 1887 in Salsburgh. A miner by trade, he was also, in his words, a no-nonsense, old-fashioned centre half. 6ft tall, fit as a flea but no silky smooth ball playing skills. He played professionally for Albion Rovers, Ayr United and, very briefly, for Arsenal. He also played for Celtic reserves. He was adamant he was never a "Celtic player" - you were only that in his mind if you played for the first team. Some time after they won the European Cup in 1967, Celtic organised a gala dinner to celebrate and all former players (including reserve players) were invited. At the event, a place was reserved at the top table for the then oldest former player, which happened to be my grandfather. Unfortunately, he was unable to go because of ill-health but it was a matter of great pride for him that he had been invited. We should never forget these guys. They are the heart and soul of our club, and of others.

Nice story. 👍

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On 31/01/2024 at 15:50, Chillidigits said:

John Greig once visited our school and was asked who was the dirtiest player in Scottish football. He replied without hesitation Arthur Thomson.

Thomson was not I think particularly dirty. He was a poor player lacking the skill to time or indeed execute a tackle. Red faced he looked angry and very unfit. His tackles were ill timed lunges and ineffective. But he was not dirty in the sense of being sneaky or underhand. I don't remember him causing career threatening injuries or indeed amassing too many red cards. His "tackles" generally not only missed the ball but usually the player too.

 

PS not sure what he is doing on this thread. He died at the age of 53.

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Tommy Brown
9 hours ago, Schevchenko said:

There is a fella called Peter Smith who is from Mid Calder who played a few games for us in the 50's then Dave Mackay took his place.  He then went to Dundee Utd and ended up an Alloa legend.  I'm sure he is still with us and will be in his 80's.  He is a top guy as well.

I know Peter and have seen him in team photos of late 80s. When I looked him up on London Hearts, it shows no competitive games played, 3 friendlies.

A great guy, not seen him for a good while though.

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6 hours ago, Hearts Heritage said:

Here is the list of players who were born in 1944 or before where we don't have a record of death.

Apologies in advance if we have anyone on the list who has passed away.

Any help in updating the list much appreciated.


Jim Rodger: Born Fri 15-09-1933
John Thomson: Born Mon 22-10-1934
John Docherty: Born Thu 28-02-1935
Davie Holt: Born Fri 03-01-1936
Bobby Campbell: Born Wed 07-10-1936
Peter Smith: Born Sun 18-07-1937
Alan Finlay: Born Mon 09-01-1939
John Ferguson: Born Wed 14-06-1939
Gordon Marshall: Born Sun 02-07-1939
Billy Higgins: Born Fri 15-03-1940
Willie Wallace: Born Sun 23-06-1940
Jim Irvine: Born Sat 17-08-1940
Bobby Kemp: Born Fri 15-08-1941
Robin Stenhouse: Born Sun 29-03-1942
Bobby Ross: Born Sun 10-05-1942
Roy Barry: Born Sat 19-09-1942
David Ross Johnston: Born Sat 28-11-1942
Boston Glegg: Born Sun 29-11-1942
Jim Murphy: Born Sun 29-11-1942
George Peden: Born Mon 12-04-1943
Tommy Murray: Born Tue 01-06-1943
Tommy Henderson: Born Sun 25-07-1943
Rab Aitchison: Born Thu 11-11-1943
John Calder: Born Sat 08-07-1944
Donald Ford: Born Wed 25-10-1944

 

John Paterson still going strong from season 1952-53

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cauther col
2 hours ago, Tommy Brown said:

I know Peter and have seen him in team photos of late 80s. When I looked him up on London Hearts, it shows no competitive games played, 3 friendlies.

A great guy, not seen him for a good while though.

Still lives in Mid Calder but not in keeping that good.

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Tommy Brown
2 hours ago, Tommy Brown said:

I know Peter and have seen him in team photos of late 80s. When I looked him up on London Hearts, it shows no competitive games played, 3 friendlies.

A great guy, not seen him for a good while though.

Fat thumbs, meant to be team photos of late 50s

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Jambo-Fox
7 hours ago, Hearts Heritage said:

Here is the list of players who were born in 1944 or before where we don't have a record of death.

Apologies in advance if we have anyone on the list who has passed away.

Any help in updating the list much appreciated.


Jim Rodger: Born Fri 15-09-1933
John Thomson: Born Mon 22-10-1934
John Docherty: Born Thu 28-02-1935
Davie Holt: Born Fri 03-01-1936
Bobby Campbell: Born Wed 07-10-1936
Peter Smith: Born Sun 18-07-1937
Alan Finlay: Born Mon 09-01-1939
John Ferguson: Born Wed 14-06-1939
Gordon Marshall: Born Sun 02-07-1939
Billy Higgins: Born Fri 15-03-1940
Willie Wallace: Born Sun 23-06-1940
Jim Irvine: Born Sat 17-08-1940
Bobby Kemp: Born Fri 15-08-1941
Robin Stenhouse: Born Sun 29-03-1942
Bobby Ross: Born Sun 10-05-1942
Roy Barry: Born Sat 19-09-1942
David Ross Johnston: Born Sat 28-11-1942
Boston Glegg: Born Sun 29-11-1942
Jim Murphy: Born Sun 29-11-1942
George Peden: Born Mon 12-04-1943
Tommy Murray: Born Tue 01-06-1943
Tommy Henderson: Born Sun 25-07-1943
Rab Aitchison: Born Thu 11-11-1943
John Calder: Born Sat 08-07-1944
Donald Ford: Born Wed 25-10-1944

 

I’m sure the ‘great’ Donald Ford is still with us …

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Fantastic photos, great thread and evoking some great memories of years past. 

Thanks to all for the contributions which I really appreciate. 

 

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Fort Vallance
4 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

I’m sure the ‘great’ Donald Ford is still with us …

He certainly is. And currently kicking up a fuss with his local council in Carnoustie re planning permission for a neighbouring business. Top man. 

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Doctor FinnBarr
1 hour ago, Fort Vallance said:

He certainly is. And currently kicking up a fuss with his local council in Carnoustie re planning permission for a neighbouring business. Top man. 

 

He was a Lithgae man at one point, didn't realise he'd become a seaside Dungdonian.

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Hearts Heritage
2 hours ago, cauther col said:

John Paterson still going strong from season 1952-53

 

Would you know his date of birth?

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John Findlay
17 hours ago, **** the SPFL said:

ANYWAY WHO'S THE OLDEST PUNTER ON KICKBACK

You😂

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John Findlay
4 hours ago, Doctor FinnBarr said:

 

He was a Lithgae man at one point, didn't realise he'd become a seaside Dungdonian.

Has been in Carnoustie a good few years now.

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cauther col
13 hours ago, Tommy Brown said:

I know Peter and have seen him in team photos of late 80s. When I looked him up on London Hearts, it shows no competitive games played, 3 friendlies.

A great guy, not seen him for a good while though.

 

8 hours ago, Hearts Heritage said:

 

Would you know his date of birth?

Will try and get it he lives in Holland now

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cauther col
8 minutes ago, cauther col said:

 

Will try and get it he lives in Holland now

 

8 hours ago, Hearts Heritage said:

 

Would you know his date of birth?

18 June 1934. You can find him on facebook played in reserves.

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dannymack
On 31/01/2024 at 15:50, Chillidigits said:

John Greig once visited our school and was asked who was the dirtiest player in Scottish football. He replied without hesitation Arthur Thomson.

 

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Fort Vallance
14 hours ago, Doctor FinnBarr said:

 

He was a Lithgae man at one point, didn't realise he'd become a seaside Dungdonian.

Been in Carnoustie a while now. Was captain of one of the golf clubs I believe. And fairly active in the community.

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Hearts Heritage

We've added in John Paterson

 

 

 

1-Jim Rodger: Born Fri 15-09-1933
2-John Paterson: Born Mon 18-06-1934
3-John Thomson: Born Mon 22-10-1934
4-John Docherty: Born Thu 28-02-1935
5-Davie Holt: Born Fri 03-01-1936
6-Bobby Campbell: Born Wed 07-10-1936
7-Peter Smith: Born Sun 18-07-1937
8-Alan Finlay: Born Mon 09-01-1939
9-John Ferguson: Born Wed 14-06-1939
10-Gordon Marshall: Born Sun 02-07-1939
11-Billy Higgins: Born Fri 15-03-1940
12-Willie Wallace: Born Sun 23-06-1940
13-Jim Irvine: Born Sat 17-08-1940
14-Bobby Kemp: Born Fri 15-08-1941
15-Robin Stenhouse: Born Sun 29-03-1942
16-Bobby Ross: Born Sun 10-05-1942
17-Roy Barry: Born Sat 19-09-1942
18-Boston Glegg: Born Sun 29-11-1942
19-Jim Murphy: Born Sun 29-11-1942
20-George Peden: Born Mon 12-04-1943
21-Tommy Murray: Born Tue 01-06-1943
22-Tommy Henderson: Born Sun 25-07-1943
23-Rab Aitchison: Born Thu 11-11-1943
24-John Calder: Born Sat 08-07-1944
25-Donald Ford: Born Wed 25-10-1944

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cauther col
On 01/02/2024 at 19:10, Tommy Brown said:

I know Peter and have seen him in team photos of late 80s. When I looked him up on London Hearts, it shows no competitive games played, 3 friendlies.

A great guy, not seen him for a good while though.

Spoke to Peter Smith today in Livingston shopping , looking fit and well.IMG_2162.thumb.jpeg.5b2b26458fa3890f046c616d98cf9556.jpeg

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On 31/01/2024 at 15:50, Chillidigits said:

John Greig once visited our school and was asked who was the dirtiest player in Scottish football. He replied without hesitation Arthur Thomson.

I'd certainly agree with that. Even as a hearts player I couldn't stand him.

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3 minutes ago, tcjambo said:

I'd certainly agree with that. Even as a hearts player I couldn't stand him.

Arthur Thomson even kicked Cruickie in the '68 Cup Final, setting up a goal for Pat Gardner in the process.  Eddie Thomson should have played that game instead of Arthur.

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On 30/01/2024 at 21:43, dannymack said:

As posted on another thread regarding our 150th anniversary, i was thinking back to the 1974 Centenary when the club hosted events when players of yesteryear were invited on behalf of the club to celebrate the 100 years, no doubt at present the club will have plans to host similar events but I was wondering for now who is the oldest living ex-Hearts player that we are still fortunate to have with us ? 

 

These images below are from the 50s which give or take a year or two are 70 years ago, the younger players on show here are a decent enough gauge to look at but unfortunately simply due to the years rapidly whizzing by most if not all have passed. 

 

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When did we sign Ewan MacGregor? Middle of the front row????

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On 30/01/2024 at 21:43, dannymack said:

As posted on another thread regarding our 150th anniversary, i was thinking back to the 1974 Centenary when the club hosted events when players of yesteryear were invited on behalf of the club to celebrate the 100 years, no doubt at present the club will have plans to host similar events but I was wondering for now who is the oldest living ex-Hearts player that we are still fortunate to have with us ? 

 

These images below are from the 50s which give or take a year or two are 70 years ago, the younger players on show here are a decent enough gauge to look at but unfortunately simply due to the years rapidly whizzing by most if not all have passed. 

 

Screenshot_20220116-042634_Facebook.thumb.jpg.ec19ad23a617be3ecea083ecfe257cb8.jpg

 

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When did we sign Ewan MacGregor? Middle of the front row in the last picture???

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On 01/02/2024 at 22:39, Fort Vallance said:

He certainly is. And currently kicking up a fuss with his local council in Carnoustie re planning permission for a neighbouring business. Top man. 

I thought he was in dispute for an outhouse of his with log burner?

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