periodictabledancer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: He only just turned 18 before the first leg against Bayern. Something I guess lost in the midst of time about that tie was that we started 9 players who were 25 and under in those 2 matches. Only Smith and Bannon were older. Additionally 12 out of the 13 who played in each match were Scottish (only Mike Galloway wasn't). Re McLaren I was at Ibrox for the Scotland v Italy in 1992 when he marked Baggio, a superstar at the time, out of the game in a 0-0. He had the world at his feet at that point but injury did him in. 100% He wasn't a hard man, he was a class defender who could've played anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Tazio said: Galloway was indeed born in England but he was capped for Scotland. He was born in Wales. Oswestry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, periodictabledancer said: He was born in Wales. Oswestry. Wales, England? It’s all the same to me 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: He was born in Wales. Oswestry. Just googled it, it’s in Shropshire. Close to Wales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tazio said: Wales, England? It’s all the same to me 🤣 Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tazio said: Just googled it, it’s in Shropshire. Close to Wales. I've drunk too much tonight. Oswestry is just down the road. Proper EDL country. Got confused by TNS playing there , in league of Wales, and I've watched them playing in the Scottish Challenge Cup too. VERY confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, John Findlay said: 1. Big Zal. RIP. 2. BIG Zal, Craig Levein, Gary Mackay, Walter Kidd, John Robertson, Paul Hartley, Michael Stewart, Alan Maybury?, Alex Cochrane? ✅ Correct! 7 red cards for big Zal Good job John! 1. Zaliukas 7 2. McKay 6 3. Robertson 6 4. Levein 6 5. Kidd 5 6. Hartley 5 7. Stewart 5 8. Maybury 4 9. Cochrane 4 10. 11. 12. One of the remaining 3 has been in the news this week and had a very infamous red card, one was a good egg and one is the player with 4 reds from before the mid 80's onwards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Alan McLaren Don Murray Pasqual Bruno Neil Pointon Johnny Cumming Dave Mackay Thomas Brellier Drew Busby Ian Baird Willie Johnson Goalkeeper probably Gordon Marshall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Stewart MacLaren (Chopper) was an absolute animal. Certainly took no prisoners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 2NL Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 For some of the younger fans, Ian Black. Knocked clean out in a derby, still got up to assist the winning goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Luckies1874 said: ✅ Correct! 7 red cards for big Zal Good job John! 1. Zaliukas 7 2. McKay 6 3. Robertson 6 4. Levein 6 5. Kidd 5 6. Hartley 5 7. Stewart 5 8. Maybury 4 9. Cochrane 4 10. 11. 12. One of the remaining 3 has been in the news this week and had a very infamous red card, one was a good egg and one is the player with 4 reds from before the mid 80's onwards! Miko? Surely not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 No Jamie Hamill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Tommi Gronlund? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 6 hours ago, martoon said: Bud Johnston? He probably holds the record at all of his former clubs. 😄 Was thinking of him when reading through the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Andy Thorne on loan ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Nerijus Barasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl1965 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Can’t remember anyone messing with Walter Kidd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 anyone remember don murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Gregor Stevens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go for it 1308 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 9 hours ago, robbogoal said: I seen a thread on Twitter X whatever and it was talking about hard men of football. Dave McKay was mentioned as was Neil Disa Pointon. What’s your Hearts hard man 11 from players you’ve seen? Without much thought I’d go with… GK - no idea Levein McLaren Bruno Mauchlen Sandy Clark Ian Baird need a wee bit help to add to this… Lol Busby and Bruno would be first on my list....wish we had someone like them now😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Some crackers in this list - John Cumming, Dave McKay, Roy Barry, Wattie Kidd, Big Zal and others. One from the 50s that a few of a certain vintage on here might remember. - Big Tam McKenzie. Hard as nails and the only fullback in Scotland that Gordon Smith couldn’t get the better of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbogoal Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 Some great replies. I was thinking of players I can remember seeing. be interesting to do a poll - maybe someone who’s good at that sort of thing could help? oh. And as a laddie I always thought Jimmy sandison was hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Zico and Berry were the first thoughts. That tackle from Berry on Paul Wright at Easter Road was a thing of beauty. Wright does a somersault, off injured moments later, Robbo double and another Hearts win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscom Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Iain Baird liked to leave a bit on the opponent. Also Barasa (the bricklayer) was a bit radge as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik5122 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, Sherbet said: anyone remember don murray The man was an absolute beast,and definitely my choice of dirtiest hearts player I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chong Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Mahe was always one I thought was quite a hardy lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy head Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) Surprised nobody has mentioned Jimmy Bone. Or Dave Bowman? Edited November 15, 2023 by Sleepy head Addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Mike Galloway. Walter Kidd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy head Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Brian Whittaker could hold his own too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy head Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 BTW.Mike Galloway wasn't hard in civvies. Was more dirty than hard on the park imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Levein? Punching a teammate? A hard man has to be able to kick players, without being forced off with an injury. Hugh Burns was mental. Rousset was tough for a GK, wasn’t scared of a physical challenge. Stephane Mahe. Mike Galloway. Ian Black. Ryan Stevenson. Salvatori. Kyle, Busby and Bruno my favourites. Craig Levein was absolutely solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 no contest. Drew Busby. Was hard as nails. Went on to Toronto Blizzard. Came back to Morton and broke/nearly broke one of our players leg first game against us at Tynie. Proper hard . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 9 hours ago, martoon said: I believe you're mixing up your McClaren's, bud. Yep - he’s referring to Alan McLaren, who was an excellent player, whereas I’d been talking about Stewart MacLaren, who wasn’t. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, Sid said: no contest. Drew Busby. Was hard as nails. Went on to Toronto Blizzard. Came back to Morton and broke/nearly broke one of our players leg first game against us at Tynie. Proper hard . He crocked Alec McDonald in that game, I’m pretty sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Auld Reekin' said: Stewart MacLaren. First name on team sheet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: Zico and Berry were the first thoughts. That tackle from Berry on Paul Wright at Easter Road was a thing of beauty. Wright does a somersault, off injured moments later, Robbo double and another Hearts win With today’s referees, that game would’ve ended up as a 5-a-side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Joaquim Adao Probably not one many will remember but he was a booking a game 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, Sooks said: Craig Levein was absolutely solid Not a hard man though, he was the guy that hard men put in the treatment room unfortunately. A cultured CH would be most folks description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Joaquim Adao Probably not one many will remember but he was a booking a game 😂 Good shout 👍🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Sleepy head said: Surprised nobody has mentioned Jimmy Bone. Or Dave Bowman? Another two good shouts 👍🏽👏🏾 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Hansel said: No Jamie Hamill? Was going to say him but that choir boy was an easy target 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said: Andy Thorne on loan ? Most definitely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Not a hard man though, he was the guy that hard men put in the treatment room unfortunately. A cultured CH would be most folks description. No sorry I do not agree . He took absolutely no shit from anyone on the park . You are just blinded by your hatred for the guy imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) Bruno, Zico (Walter Kidd), Iain Jardine, Dave Mackay, Kevin Kyle, Jimmy Bone and Zal for me. Forgot Berry, he would also need to be included. These aren't suicidally violent players, just ones that took no shit on park. Edited November 15, 2023 by Malinga the Swinga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sooks said: No sorry I do not agree . He took absolutely no shit from anyone on the park . You are just blinded by your hatred for the guy imo Correct, he could defo handle himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sooks said: No sorry I do not agree . He took absolutely no shit from anyone on the park . You are just blinded by your hatred for the guy imo Your second point is correct but the guy could barely make a challenge without being crocked, he ended his career a bad challenge against Dunfermline irc? Maybe just our definitions differ. I went to both his testimonials and was gutted when he went to Leicester. The wasting of millions of our money and the turgid football that ended in our demotion changed my opinion. But we are allowed to disagree, you will clapping him next Saturday and I will be booing him 😜. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Just now, We_are_the_Hearts said: Correct, he could defo handle himself Yip . Whatever someone thinks about him as a manager or director ect, we should not just add other things to the list when they are disingenuous Great player Hard bloke Good manager / poor manager Terrible director of football Stubborn and arrogant He divides opinion but most of us are no doubt glad he is no longer involved with Hearts now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Your second point is correct but the guy could barely make a challenge without being crocked, he ended his career a bad challenge against Dunfermline irc? Maybe just our definitions differ. I went to both his testimonials and was gutted when he went to Leicester. The wasting of millions of our money and the turgid football that ended in our demotion changed my opinion. But we are allowed to disagree, you will clapping him next Saturday and I will be booing him 😜. No this is all fair . Fair enough mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabbosfan Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Big Chuck Roddy McDonald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 10 hours ago, periodictabledancer said: MacLaren was not a beast , he wasn't a thug, he wasn't a dirty player. I saw him up close & personal in the Bayern game at Tynecastle : he was class and he didn't give a **** about their stars. IIRC he was 18. He never got the interntational recognition he deserved either IMO. You thinking of Alan. Stewart was never with us an eighteen year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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