robbogoal Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I seen a thread on Twitter X whatever and it was talking about hard men of football. Dave McKay was mentioned as was Neil Disa Pointon. What’s your Hearts hard man 11 from players you’ve seen? Without much thought I’d go with… GK - no idea Levein McLaren Bruno Mauchlen Sandy Clark Ian Baird need a wee bit help to add to this… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Neil Berry strolls into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Jim Townsend Alan Anderson Roy Barry Callum Paterson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Jim_Duncan said: Justin Fashanu could be hard up front when it mattered. Naughty naughty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Bruno Levein Cumming D. MacKay Brellier Kyle Busby Clark are the ones that spring to mind Edited November 14, 2023 by Sooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 GK Jim Cruikshank LB Ernie Winchester CB Alan Anderson CB Craig Levein RB David Holt RM Julien Brellier CM Drew Busby LM Stefano Salvatori RF Donald Ford CF Sandy Clark LF John Robertson. The above is a mixture of players who gave and took it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, John Findlay said: GK Jim Cruikshank LB Ernie Winchester CB Alan Anderson CB Craig Levein RB David Holt RM Julien Brellier CM Drew Busby LM Stefano Salvatori RF Donald Ford CF Sandy Clark LF John Robertson. The above is a mixture of players who gave and took it. Good call with Robbo , took no shit and gave a bit back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Dave McCreery. Took a lot of kicks and kept going. Scot Severin, a master of the sneaky dig. Could have been a Hearts legend but got his head turned by agent talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Radus Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Arthur Thomson scared me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerja Jambo Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sooks said: Bruno Levein Cumming D. MacKay Brellier Kyle Busby Clark are the ones that spring to mind I'd go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjambo Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Barasa has to be in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Not a single mention of Walter Kidd yet. Zico had the look of a man who’d kick his grannie if she got past him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paris 84 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, John Findlay said: GK Jim Cruikshank LB Ernie Winchester CB Alan Anderson CB Craig Levein RB David Holt RM Julien Brellier CM Drew Busby LM Stefano Salvatori RF Donald Ford CF Sandy Clark LF John Robertson. The above is a mixture of players who gave and took it. Donald Ford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 As an old guy, I'll put big Arthur Thomson in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Paris 84 said: Donald Ford? Got booted from pillar to post and never gave up. There’s more to being hard than giving it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Jim_Duncan said: John Colquhoun, likewise. Definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Davie Holt ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: John Colquhoun, likewise. He was seldom out injured which is quite remarkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 "Zico" Walter Kidd and Alan "chopper" McLaren We had Gregor Stevens on loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomac Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said: "Zico" Walter Kidd and Alan "chopper" McLaren We had Gregor Stevens on loan Stevens was a savage - not 'hard' as I'm seeing thread going, Zico a good shout though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 42 minutes ago, robbogoal said: I seen a thread on Twitter X whatever and it was talking about hard men of football. Dave McKay was mentioned as was Neil Disa Pointon. What’s your Hearts hard man 11 from players you’ve seen? Without much thought I’d go with… GK - no idea Levein McLaren Bruno Mauchlen Sandy Clark Ian Baird need a wee bit help to add to this… Dave Mackay is infamous for that Bremner by the scruff of the neck pic. I know for a fact he hated it, he never saw himself as a hard man. He never was a hard man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daktari Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Neil Berry, Drew Busby, John Cumming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Don Murray That animal that played for Motherwell before us. Bruno. A beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, Paris 84 said: Donald Ford? Donald took more than his fair share of punishment from brutal centre halves and never complained and went back for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 54 minutes ago, Tazio said: Not a single mention of Walter Kidd yet. Zico had the look of a man who’d kick his grannie if she got past him. was thinking that. Sent off in the cup final - first to do so - after deciding that his hate for the referee Willie Miller couldn’t be contained. Kenny black had his moments too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: Don Murray That animal that played for Motherwell before us. Bruno. A beast. Stewart MacLaren. Edited November 15, 2023 by Auld Reekin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 John Millar: A tough tackling midfielder 30 years back who had skill and goals in him to back it up. Walter Kidd: Hard as nails and, as the story goes, left Hugh Burns in no doubt as to what he could do with his Rangers brand of "values". Completely agree about John Colquhoun: He was feckin unbreakable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Levein? Punching a teammate? A hard man has to be able to kick players, without being forced off with an injury. Hugh Burns was mental. Rousset was tough for a GK, wasn’t scared of a physical challenge. Stephane Mahe. Mike Galloway. Ian Black. Ryan Stevenson. Salvatori. Kyle, Busby and Bruno my favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, RS86 said: Neil Berry strolls into this. this x 100 superb hard man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) Two quick quiz questions...... 1. Who received the most red cards as a Hearts player? 2. There are 12 players with 4 or more red cards in a Hearts shirt, name them! Edited November 15, 2023 by Luckies1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Queensland Jambo said: was thinking that. Sent off in the cup final - first to do so - after deciding that his hate for the referee Willie Miller couldn’t be contained. Kenny black had his moments too. Was going to mention Kenny, had a really dirty tackle in his arsenal 😆. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Tazio said: Not a single mention of Walter Kidd yet. Zico had the look of a man who’d kick his grannie if she got past him. totally agree zico rattled Motherwell every time as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: Two quick quiz questions...... 1. Who received the most red cards as a Hearts player? 2. There are 12 players with 4 or more red cards in a Hearts shirt, name them! Bud Johnston? He probably holds the record at all of his former clubs. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: totally agree zico rattled Motherwell every time as well Zico's performance at Fir Park in January 1990 was phenomenal. 1-3 Hearts and Walter was everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, martoon said: Bud Johnston? He probably holds the record at all of his former clubs. 😄 Nah, only sent off twice in 96 Hearts appearances! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said: Stewart MacLaren. MacLaren was not a beast , he wasn't a thug, he wasn't a dirty player. I saw him up close & personal in the Bayern game at Tynecastle : he was class and he didn't give a **** about their stars. IIRC he was 18. He never got the interntational recognition he deserved either IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Luckies1874 said: Nah, only sent off twice in 96 Hearts appearances! He must have mellowed. 😊 The sending off at Parkheid in 1983 still makes me bristle with resentment at Provan. A Jeremy Hunt of a charlatan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said: Stewart MacLaren. Gregor Stevens. But you're not wrong. Mclaren was proper hard school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 We've had some hard as **** managers: Alex MacDonald Joe Jordan Sandy Clark Jim Jefferies Craig Levein Tasty. Oh and Ian Cathro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: MacLaren was not a beast , he wasn't a thug, he wasn't a dirty player. I saw him up close & personal in the Bayern game at Tynecastle : he was class and he didn't give a **** about their stars. IIRC he was 18. He never got the interntational recognition he deserved either IMO. I believe you're mixing up your McClaren's, bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, martoon said: He must have mellowed. 😊 The sending off at Parkheid in 1983 still makes me bristle with resentment at Provan. A Jeremy Hunt of a charlatan. Followed by the most insane violence I've seen following Hearts in 55 years. Off the scale shit housery by Glasgow's finest who actually tried to arrest any Hearts fans for any reason followed by a game of frisbee with their hats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: We've had some hard as **** managers: Alex MacDonald Joe Jordan Sandy Clark Jim Jefferies Craig Levein Tasty. Oh and Ian Cathro. 😄 Tbf, I was mostly terrified during his tenure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Julien Brellier. crazy that he only really played a full season once in his career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, martoon said: I believe you're mixing up your McClaren's, bud. But you know who played in the Bayern game ? Right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, periodictabledancer said: Followed by the most insane violence I've seen following Hearts in 55 years. Off the scale shit housery by Glasgow's finest who actually tried to arrest any Hearts fans for any reason followed by a game of frisbee with their hats. I remember it well. Even the Jungle cheered everytime a hat was hurled. True what you say about the shit-housery by the Glasgow polis. They turned their attention to younger fans on the periphery instead of tackling the hard nuts in our support. The 15 year old me escaped arrest by a baw hair. I'd done nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: MacLaren was not a beast , he wasn't a thug, he wasn't a dirty player. I saw him up close & personal in the Bayern game at Tynecastle : he was class and he didn't give a **** about their stars. IIRC he was 18. He never got the interntational recognition he deserved either IMO. He only just turned 18 before the first leg against Bayern. Something I guess lost in the midst of time about that tie was that we started 9 players who were 25 and under in those 2 matches. Only Smith and Bannon were older. Additionally 12 out of the 13 who played in each match were Scottish (only Mike Galloway wasn't). Re McLaren I was at Ibrox for the Scotland v Italy in 1992 when he marked Baggio, a superstar at the time, out of the game in a 0-0. He had the world at his feet at that point but injury did him in. Edited November 15, 2023 by Luckies1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, martoon said: I remember it well. Even the Jungle cheered everytime a hat was hurled. True what you say about the shit-housery by the Glasgow polis. They turned their attention to younger fans on the periphery instead of tackling the hard nuts in our support. The 15 year old me escaped arrest by a baw hair. I'd done nothing. 👍 But McLaren though - he was class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Just now, periodictabledancer said: 👍 But McLaren though - he was class. Alan. Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: He only just turned 18 before the first leg against Bayern. Something I guess lost in the midst of time about that tie was that we started 9 players who were 25 and under in those 2 matches. Only Smith and Bannon were older. Additionally 12 out of the 13 who played in each match were Scottish (only Mike Galloway wasn't). Re McLaren I was at Ibrox for the Scotland v Italy in 1992 when he marked Baggio, a superstar at the time, out of the game in a 0-0. He had the world at his feet at that point but injury did him in. Galloway was indeed born in England but he was capped for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: Two quick quiz questions...... 1. Who received the most red cards as a Hearts player? 2. There are 12 players with 4 or more red cards in a Hearts shirt, name them! 1. Big Zal. RIP. 2. BIG Zal, Craig Levein, Gary Mackay, Walter Kidd, John Robertson, Paul Hartley, Michael Stewart, Alan Maybury?, Alex Cochrane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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