Hearts Hard Man 11

[robbogoal]

I seen a thread on Twitter X whatever and it was talking about hard men of football. 
 

Dave McKay was mentioned as was Neil Disa Pointon. 
 

What’s your Hearts hard man 11 from players you’ve seen?

 

Without much thought I’d go with…

 

GK - no idea

 

Levein

McLaren

Bruno 

 

Mauchlen

 

 

Sandy Clark 

Ian Baird

 

need a wee bit help to add to this…

 

[RS86]

Neil Berry strolls into this.

[Jambo-Fox]

Jim Townsend

Alan Anderson

Roy Barry

Callum Paterson

 

 

[Jambo-Fox]

1 minute ago, Jim_Duncan said:

Justin Fashanu could be hard up front when it mattered.

Naughty naughty 

[Star Lizard]

Bruno

Levein

Cumming

D. MacKay

Brellier

Kyle

Busby

Clark

 

are the ones that spring to mind

 

 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Sooks

[John Findlay]

GK Jim Cruikshank

LB Ernie Winchester

CB Alan Anderson

CB Craig Levein

RB David Holt

RM Julien Brellier

CM Drew Busby

LM Stefano Salvatori

RF Donald Ford

CF Sandy Clark

LF John Robertson.

The above is a mixture of players who gave and took it.

[Star Lizard]

2 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

GK Jim Cruikshank

LB Ernie Winchester

CB Alan Anderson

CB Craig Levein

RB David Holt

RM Julien Brellier

CM Drew Busby

LM Stefano Salvatori

RF Donald Ford

CF Sandy Clark

LF John Robertson.

The above is a mixture of players who gave and took it.

Good call with Robbo , took no shit and gave a bit back 

[Tazio]

Dave McCreery. Took a lot of kicks and kept going. 
Scot Severin, a master of the sneaky dig. Could have been a Hearts legend but got his head turned by agent talk. 

[Jambo Radus]

Arthur Thomson scared me

[Nerja Jambo]

9 minutes ago, Sooks said:

Bruno

Levein

Cumming

D. MacKay

Brellier

Kyle

Busby

Clark

 

are the ones that spring to mind

 

 

I'd go with that.

[fmjambo]

Barasa has to be in there

[Tazio]

Not a single mention of Walter Kidd yet. Zico had the look of a man who’d kick his grannie if she got past him. 

[Paris 84]

14 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

GK Jim Cruikshank

LB Ernie Winchester

CB Alan Anderson

CB Craig Levein

RB David Holt

RM Julien Brellier

CM Drew Busby

LM Stefano Salvatori

RF Donald Ford

CF Sandy Clark

LF John Robertson.

The above is a mixture of players who gave and took it.

Donald Ford? 

[norrie1952]

As an old guy, I'll put big Arthur Thomson in there 

[Tazio]

2 minutes ago, Paris 84 said:

Donald Ford? 

Got booted from pillar to post and never gave up. There’s more to being hard than giving it out. 

[Tazio]

Just now, Jim_Duncan said:

John Colquhoun, likewise.

Definitely. 

[merrymac]

Davie Holt ? 

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said:

John Colquhoun, likewise.

He was seldom out injured which is quite remarkable.

[The Maroon Jacket]

"Zico" Walter Kidd and Alan "chopper" McLaren

We had Gregor Stevens on loan 

[geomac]

3 minutes ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said:

"Zico" Walter Kidd and Alan "chopper" McLaren

We had Gregor Stevens on loan 

 Stevens was a savage - not 'hard' as I'm seeing thread going, Zico a good shout though

[periodictabledancer]

42 minutes ago, robbogoal said:

I seen a thread on Twitter X whatever and it was talking about hard men of football. 
 

Dave McKay was mentioned as was Neil Disa Pointon. 
 

What’s your Hearts hard man 11 from players you’ve seen?

 

Without much thought I’d go with…

 

GK - no idea

 

Levein

McLaren

Bruno 

 

Mauchlen

 

 

Sandy Clark 

Ian Baird

 

need a wee bit help to add to this…

 

Dave Mackay is infamous for that Bremner by  the scruff of the neck pic.  I know for a fact he hated it, he never saw himself as a hard man. He never was a hard man.

[Daktari]

Neil Berry, Drew Busby, John Cumming?

[periodictabledancer]

Don Murray

That animal that played for Motherwell before us. 

 

Bruno.  A beast. 

 

 

[John Findlay]

39 minutes ago, Paris 84 said:

Donald Ford? 

Donald took more than his fair share of punishment from  brutal centre halves and never complained and went back for more.

[Jambo dans les Pyrenees]

54 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Not a single mention of Walter Kidd yet. Zico had the look of a man who’d kick his grannie if she got past him. 

was thinking that.  Sent off in the cup final - first to do so - after deciding that his hate for the referee Willie Miller couldn’t be contained.

 

Kenny black had his moments too.

 

 

[Auld Reekin']

39 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said:

Don Murray

That animal that played for Motherwell before us. 

 

Bruno.  A beast. 

 

 

 

Stewart MacLaren.

Edited November 15, 2023 by Auld Reekin'

[martoon]

John Millar:

 

A tough tackling midfielder 30 years back who had skill and goals in him to back it up.

 

Walter Kidd:

 

Hard as nails and, as the story goes, left Hugh Burns in no doubt as to what he could do with his Rangers brand of "values".

 

Completely agree about John Colquhoun:

 

He was feckin unbreakable.

[Pasquale for King]

Levein? Punching a teammate? A hard man has to be able to kick players, without being forced off with an injury. 
Hugh Burns was mental. Rousset was tough for a GK, wasn’t scared of a physical challenge. Stephane Mahe. Mike Galloway. Ian Black. Ryan Stevenson. Salvatori. 
Kyle, Busby and Bruno my favourites. 

[1971fozzy]

1 hour ago, RS86 said:

Neil Berry strolls into this.

this x 100

 

superb hard man

[Luckies1874]

Two quick quiz questions......

 

1.  Who received the most red cards as a Hearts player? 

 

2. There are 12 players with 4 or more red cards in a Hearts shirt, name them!

Edited November 15, 2023 by Luckies1874

[Pasquale for King]

12 minutes ago, Queensland Jambo said:

was thinking that.  Sent off in the cup final - first to do so - after deciding that his hate for the referee Willie Miller couldn’t be contained.

 

Kenny black had his moments too.

 

 

Was going to mention Kenny, had a really dirty tackle in his arsenal 😆. 

[1971fozzy]

1 hour ago, Tazio said:

Not a single mention of Walter Kidd yet. Zico had the look of a man who’d kick his grannie if she got past him. 

totally agree zico rattled Motherwell every time as well 

[martoon]

6 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said:

Two quick quiz questions......

 

1.  Who received the most red cards as a Hearts player? 

 

2. There are 12 players with 4 or more red cards in a Hearts shirt, name them!

 

Bud Johnston?

 

He probably holds the record at all of his former clubs. 😄

[martoon]

6 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said:

totally agree zico rattled Motherwell every time as well 

 

Zico's performance at Fir Park in January 1990 was phenomenal. 

 

1-3 Hearts and Walter was everywhere.

[Luckies1874]

3 minutes ago, martoon said:

 

Bud Johnston?

 

He probably holds the record at all of his former clubs. 😄

 

 

Nah, only sent off twice in 96 Hearts appearances! 

[periodictabledancer]

19 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Stewart MacLaren.

MacLaren was not a beast , he wasn't a thug, he wasn't a dirty player.

I saw him up close & personal in the Bayern game at Tynecastle : he was class and he didn't give a **** about their stars. IIRC he was 18.

 

He never got the interntational recognition he deserved  either IMO. 

[martoon]

1 minute ago, Luckies1874 said:

 

 

Nah, only sent off twice in 96 Hearts appearances! 

 

He must have mellowed. 😊

 

The sending off at Parkheid in 1983 still makes me bristle with resentment at Provan.

 

A Jeremy Hunt of a charlatan.

 

 

[periodictabledancer]

23 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Stewart MacLaren.

Gregor Stevens.

But you're not wrong.  Mclaren was proper hard school. 

[Luckies1874]

We've had some hard as **** managers:

 

Alex MacDonald 

Joe Jordan

Sandy Clark

Jim Jefferies 

Craig Levein

 

Tasty.

 

Oh and Ian Cathro.

 

[martoon]

2 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said:

MacLaren was not a beast , he wasn't a thug, he wasn't a dirty player.

I saw him up close & personal in the Bayern game at Tynecastle : he was class and he didn't give a **** about their stars. IIRC he was 18.

 

He never got the interntational recognition he deserved  either IMO. 

 

I believe you're mixing up your McClaren's, bud.

[periodictabledancer]

1 minute ago, martoon said:

 

He must have mellowed. 😊

 

The sending off at Parkheid in 1983 still makes me bristle with resentment at Provan.

 

A Jeremy Hunt of a charlatan.

 

 

Followed by the most insane violence I've seen following Hearts in 55 years.

Off the scale shit housery by Glasgow's finest who actually tried to arrest any Hearts fans for any reason followed by a game of frisbee with their hats. 

[martoon]

3 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said:

We've had some hard as **** managers:

 

Alex MacDonald 

Joe Jordan

Sandy Clark

Jim Jefferies 

Craig Levein

 

Tasty.

 

Oh and Ian Cathro.

 

 

😄

 

Tbf, I was mostly terrified during his tenure.

 

 

[Jambo dans les Pyrenees]

Julien Brellier.  
 

crazy that he only really played a full season once in his career

[periodictabledancer]

7 minutes ago, martoon said:

 

I believe you're mixing up your McClaren's, bud.

But you know who played in the Bayern game ? Right ? 

[martoon]

1 minute ago, periodictabledancer said:

Followed by the most insane violence I've seen following Hearts in 55 years.

Off the scale shit housery by Glasgow's finest who actually tried to arrest any Hearts fans for any reason followed by a game of frisbee with their hats. 

 

I remember it well.

 

Even the Jungle cheered everytime a hat was hurled.

 

True what you say about the shit-housery by the Glasgow polis.

 

They turned their attention to younger fans on the periphery instead of tackling the hard nuts in our support.

 

The 15 year old me escaped arrest by a baw hair.

 

I'd done nothing.

[Luckies1874]

15 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said:

MacLaren was not a beast , he wasn't a thug, he wasn't a dirty player.

I saw him up close & personal in the Bayern game at Tynecastle : he was class and he didn't give a **** about their stars. IIRC he was 18.

 

He never got the interntational recognition he deserved  either IMO. 

 

He only just turned 18 before the first leg against Bayern.

 

Something I guess lost in the midst of time about that tie was that we started 9 players who were 25 and under in those 2 matches. Only Smith and Bannon were older. Additionally 12 out of the 13 who played in each match were Scottish (only Mike Galloway wasn't). 

 

Re McLaren I was at Ibrox for the Scotland v Italy in 1992 when he marked Baggio, a superstar at the time, out of the game in a 0-0. He had the world at his feet at that point but injury did him in. 

Edited November 15, 2023 by Luckies1874

[periodictabledancer]

1 minute ago, martoon said:

 

I remember it well.

 

Even the Jungle cheered everytime a hat was hurled.

 

True what you say about the shit-housery by the Glasgow polis.

 

They turned their attention to younger fans on the periphery instead of tackling the hard nuts in our support.

 

The 15 year old me escaped arrest by a baw hair.

 

I'd done nothing.

👍

 

 

But McLaren though - he was class. 

[martoon]

Just now, periodictabledancer said:

👍

 

 

But McLaren though - he was class. 

 

Alan.

 

Absolutely.

[Tazio]

3 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said:

 

He only just turned 18 before the first leg against Bayern.

 

Something I guess lost in the midst of time about that tie was that we started 9 players who were 25 and under in those 2 matches. Only Smith and Bannon were older. Additionally 12 out of the 13 who played in each match were Scottish (only Mike Galloway wasn't). 

 

Re McLaren I was at Ibrox for the Scotland v Italy in 1992 when he marked Baggio, a superstar at the time, out of the game in a 0-0. He had the world at his feet at that point but injury did him in. 

Galloway was indeed born in England but he was capped for Scotland. 

[John Findlay]

30 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said:

Two quick quiz questions......

 

1.  Who received the most red cards as a Hearts player? 

 

2. There are 12 players with 4 or more red cards in a Hearts shirt, name them!

1. Big Zal. RIP.

 

2. BIG Zal, Craig Levein, Gary Mackay,

    Walter Kidd, John Robertson, Paul Hartley, Michael Stewart, Alan Maybury?, Alex Cochrane?