David Munro/penalty ( merged )

[colinmorewasgash]

Dermot Gallagher and Danny mills were laughing and couldnt believe it wasnt given,saying how could ref not give it and to say contact minimal and mills cracked only the 4 studs in chest then. Then you see the sevco ones lol used to be 1 pen they got now if they miss one its ok we'll give you another soft one to have another go all to keep a mickey mouse title race going. Spfl the laughing stock of world football.

[OTT]

1 minute ago, colinmorewasgash said:

Dermot Gallagher and Danny mills were laughing and couldnt believe it wasnt given,saying how could ref not give it and to say contact minimal and mills cracked only the 4 studs in chest then. Then you see the sevco ones lol used to be 1 pen they got now if they miss one its ok we'll give you another soft one to have another go all to keep a mickey mouse title race going. Spfl the laughing stock of world football.

 

He should be sacked and the club should be pushing for it. 

 

Zero point in VAR if they're just going to reject the evidence their eyes are seeing. 

[Bazzas right boot]

32 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

Is a dangerous tackle not a straight red regardless of whether it’s a penalty or not?

 

Imo it's not even a red anyway,  but under the new rules it would have been even more of a stretch.

 

 

 

[RS86]

4 hours ago, Shaggy2 said:

Butcher got booked late on. Amazingly, despite being the angriest man in Motherwell all day, Casey wasn’t actually booked. 🤦‍♂️

I could swear Casey got booked earlier too for a tackle out on the left wing, but seems he never. Should have.

[Bull's-eye]

23 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

He should be sacked and the club should be pushing for it. 

 

Zero point in VAR if they're just going to reject the evidence their eyes are seeing. 

 

He can't be sacked for doing what he's told.

[Bauld]

On 11/11/2023 at 17:58, mr fox said:

Seriously how is this not a penalty it’s an utter stonewaller. 
 

 

In the refs defence, He doesn't have a great view of it 🤦

[Thomaso]

1 hour ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Imo it's not even a red anyway,  but under the new rules it would have been even more of a stretch.

 

 

 

Your opinion 🤣

[WageThief]

Why have sky’s referee thing reviewed the Boyce incident but not the even more obvious penalty when Shankland was fouled around 90?

 

Is there something I’m missing?

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

2 hours ago, colinmorewasgash said:

Dermot Gallagher and Danny mills were laughing and couldnt believe it wasnt given,saying how could ref not give it and to say contact minimal and mills cracked only the 4 studs in chest then. Then you see the sevco ones lol used to be 1 pen they got now if they miss one its ok we'll give you another soft one to have another go all to keep a mickey mouse title race going. Spfl the laughing stock of world football.

BBC have even covered the Sky response today. Remarkably some Hearts fans have been suckered into believing that contact is even an issue.

 

A boot that high in proximity to an opponent is a foul, hence some overhead kicks being penalised 

[Thomaso]

3 minutes ago, WageThief said:

Why have sky’s referee thing reviewed the Boyce incident but not the even more obvious penalty when Shankland was fouled around 90?

 

Is there something I’m missing?

The shite thrown at Hearts has no valid explanation 🤷‍♂️

[Thomaso]

1 minute ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

BBC have even covered the Sky response today. Remarkably some Hearts fans have been suckered into believing that contact is even an issue.

 

A boot that high in proximity to an opponent is a foul, hence some overhead kicks being penalised 

Some dicks on here don’t think a boot in the chest is worthy of a red! 🤷‍♂️

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

2 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

Some dicks on here don’t think a boot in the chest is worthy of a red! 🤷‍♂️

Truly astonishing how brainwashed people are becoming to the treatment we are on the end of every week now 

[maroonsgotop]

18 minutes ago, WageThief said:

Why have sky’s referee thing reviewed the Boyce incident but not the even more obvious penalty when Shankland was fouled around 90?

 

Is there something I’m missing?

ref gave a foul by Boyce before the ball reached Shankland

[colinmaroon]

6 hours ago, DS98 said:

It’s things like this that can have a huge impact on not only a specific game but the league campaign as a whole. We could’ve easily dropped points on Saturday. Referees incompetences can have a massive effect. Another ref could’ve easily given Sibbick a penalty in the derby. Another ref could’ve done a ‘David Munro’ and told Connor Goldson get to his feet at Ibrox. There’s possibly 5 points of a difference down to referees interpretations of things. I wonder where Rangers would be without all their penalties? Similarly Hibs would’ve been close to relegation last year without playing against 10 men every 2nd week. 
 

We averaged a penalty every 3 games last season. We’ve now on 12 without one. For some reason we just seem to be getting nothing but the shitty side of VAR/refs this season.

 

There ain't no "some" about it. 

 

Just think back to glaring penalty at Dens, and ref from Edinburgh, I'm sorry but even that whiffs, felt he couldn't give it so early.  Thank God he wasn't refereeing 98.

 

Mind you, obviously that doesn't apply to Lanarkshire refs. 

[cazzyy]

23 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

BBC have even covered the Sky response today. Remarkably some Hearts fans have been suckered into believing that contact is even an issue.

 

A boot that high in proximity to an opponent is a foul, hence some overhead kicks being penalised 

 

It's an indirect free kick if there's no contact though, a direct free kick or penalty if there's contact.

There was contact.

[Sooks]

25 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

BBC have even covered the Sky response today. Remarkably some Hearts fans have been suckered into believing that contact is even an issue.

 

A boot that high in proximity to an opponent is a foul, hence some overhead kicks being penalised 

 

22 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

Some dicks on here don’t think a boot in the chest is worthy of a red! 🤷‍♂️

 

18 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Truly astonishing how brainwashed people are becoming to the treatment we are on the end of every week now 

These are spot on

 

“ maroon specs likesay “

[OTT]

1 minute ago, cazzyy said:

 

It's an indirect free kick if there's no contact though, a direct free kick or penalty if there's contact.

There was contact.

 

Yep. Its about as black and white a penalty as you'll see.

 

All this crap about Boyce's reaction or what that utter helmet that missed the open goal was coming out with is just white noise to try and justify the unjustifable.

 

The ****witt got the decision wrong with a clear view of the incident. VAR pulled him and when given the opportunity to reverse his decision, refused to do so. 

 

The club should be challenging his suitability as a referee going forward. 

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

5 minutes ago, cazzyy said:

 

It's an indirect free kick if there's no contact though, a direct free kick or penalty if there's contact.

There was contact.

Think indirect free kicks are long since gone 

[cazzyy]

2 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Yep. Its about as black and white a penalty as you'll see.

 

All this crap about Boyce's reaction or what that utter helmet that missed the open goal was coming out with is just white noise to try and justify the unjustifable.

 

The ****witt got the decision wrong with a clear view of the incident. VAR pulled him and when given the opportunity to reverse his decision, refused to do so. 

 

The club should be challenging his suitability as a referee going forward. 

 

Yep, he obviously decided there was no contact. Should in theory then have been an indirect free kick to us but he can't give that because VAR can only be used to decide if a penalty should be given or not.

It's mental.

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

4 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Yep. Its about as black and white a penalty as you'll see.

 

All this crap about Boyce's reaction or what that utter helmet that missed the open goal was coming out with is just white noise to try and justify the unjustifable.

 

The ****witt got the decision wrong with a clear view of the incident. VAR pulled him and when given the opportunity to reverse his decision, refused to do so. 

 

The club should be challenging his suitability as a referee going forward. 

Bang on the money, every word

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

Just now, cazzyy said:

 

Yep, he obviously decided there was no contact. Should in theory then have been an indirect free kick to us but he can't give that because VAR can only be used to decide if a penalty should be given or not.

It's mental.

No such thing as an indirect free kick 

[cazzyy]

2 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Think indirect free kicks are long since gone 

 

Not sure what you mean. 

[cazzyy]

Just now, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

No such thing as an indirect free kick 

 

Since when?

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

1 minute ago, cazzyy said:

 

Since when?

Probably about 20 years mate

 

Pass back is about the only thing you get one for 

[Thomaso]

4 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

No such thing as an indirect free kick 

 

[cazzyy]

2 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Probably about 20 years mate

 

Pass back is about the only thing you get one for 

 

Nonsense.

[cazzyy]

3 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

 

 

Exactly.

[colinmaroon]

38 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Truly astonishing how brainwashed people are becoming to the treatment we are on the end of every week now 

 

The same attitude that used to say there was no corruption in Scottish Football, just before the old Rangers' "situation" blew up. Remember the documentary? SFA/SPFL bent as a paperclip. 

 

Aye, and it doesn't rain in Scotland. 

Edited November 13, 2023 by colinmaroon

[Thomaso]

9 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

No such thing as an indirect free kick 

seems that what the tit of a referee thought!

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

4 minutes ago, cazzyy said:

 

Nonsense.

Give me an example please 

[Thomaso]

6 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Give me an example please 

 

[Canscot]

7 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Give me an example please 

Offside results in an indirect free kick

 

lots of them every game. 

[cazzyy]

39 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Give me an example please 

 

Google it, there's plenty examples of indirect free kicks inside the box, even more outside it.

 

 

[cazzyy]

47 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Give me an example please 

 

Keeper takes too long to release the ball from hand in the box is an indirect free kick.

[OTT]

3 hours ago, colinmorewasgash said:

Dermot Gallagher and Danny mills were laughing and couldnt believe it wasnt given,saying how could ref not give it and to say contact minimal and mills cracked only the 4 studs in chest then. Then you see the sevco ones lol used to be 1 pen they got now if they miss one its ok we'll give you another soft one to have another go all to keep a mickey mouse title race going. Spfl the laughing stock of world football.

 

I watched that too.

 

That should be something which is deeply embarrassing to the refereeing body - i.e to quietly sack him. 

 

They won't though. Utterly without shame.  Prick will probably get the Scottish cup final or something. 

[John Findlay]

3 hours ago, Bauld said:

 

In the refs defence, He doesn't have a great view of it 🤦

I can only assume, like alot of referees in Scotland, his hair got in his eyes at the crucial moment.

[John Findlay]

1 hour ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

BBC have even covered the Sky response today. Remarkably some Hearts fans have been suckered into believing that contact is even an issue.

 

A boot that high in proximity to an opponent is a foul, hence some overhead kicks being penalised 

I'm just trying to work out how many sandwiches short of a picnic you are.

[Bazzas right boot]

2 hours ago, Thomaso said:

Your opinion 🤣

 

Nah, our payer never got sent off for high feet just after ht and don't see many sent of for that type challenge.

Never a red card.

 

The ref was shite, but to be thinking that was a red is beyond daft tbh.

That is also my opinion.

 

Not 1 person around me at the game brought it up either.

Foul and pk - yes, red card- stoap it.

 

[Doctor FinnBarr]

13 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

I watched that too.

 

That should be something which is deeply embarrassing to the refereeing body - i.e to quietly sack him. 

 

They won't though. Utterly without shame.  Prick will probably get the Scottish cup final or something. 

 

Nowt will be done, we're pissing up a wall here, the GFA will preserve the duoply at all costs.

[DS98]

1 hour ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Give me an example please 

 
Offsides

Pass backs

Dangerous play (with no contact)

Offensive, insulting, abusive language 

 

Basically anything without physical contact. 

 

[John Findlay]

48 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

I watched that too.

 

That should be something which is deeply embarrassing to the refereeing body - i.e to quietly sack him. 

 

They won't though. Utterly without shame.  Prick will probably get the Scottish cup final or something. 

Has to be against one of the uglies before a referee is sacked.

[Spitonastranger]

4 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Imo it's not even a red anyway,  but under the new rules it would have been even more of a stretch.

 

 

 

Do you ever watch football ⚽️ 🤔 

[Bazzas right boot]

57 minutes ago, Spitonastranger said:

Do you ever watch football ⚽️ 🤔 

 

Aye, that's why I understand what constitutes a red card and what doesn't. 

 

 

[gnasher75]

3 hours ago, maroonsgotop said:

ref gave a foul by Boyce before the ball reached Shankland

 

But the game restarted with a goal kick????

[Unknown user]

6 hours ago, RS86 said:

I could swear Casey got booked earlier too for a tackle out on the left wing, but seems he never. Should have.

Yeah I thought he'd been booked

[Section Q]

9 hours ago, colinmorewasgash said:

Dermot Gallagher and Danny mills were laughing and couldnt believe it wasnt given,saying how could ref not give it and to say contact minimal and mills cracked only the 4 studs in chest then. Then you see the sevco ones lol used to be 1 pen they got now if they miss one its ok we'll give you another soft one to have another go all to keep a mickey mouse title race going. Spfl the laughing stock of world football.

Even in rugby league it's a penalty all day long. If he refereed in South Australia he'd need a police escort, and a change of address.  . . . .

[sadj]

8 hours ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Probably about 20 years mate

 

Pass back is about the only thing you get one for 

You shush old man 😘  

Its still a thing

[John Findlay]

[Sooks]

16 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

The Celtic and Hibs fans on the X clip tying themselves in knots to justify it or pass it off as a hand ball are quite amusing . Clearly forgetting that fans from all over the UK can read their comments  

[Shaggy2]

12 hours ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

BBC have even covered the Sky response today. Remarkably some Hearts fans have been suckered into believing that contact is even an issue.

 

A boot that high in proximity to an opponent is a foul, hence some overhead kicks being penalised 

Exactly. If Boyce has his boot that close to Casey, even if no contact, whilst volleying the ball into the net for a worldie, it would 100% be disallowed.