comradejambo Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Was aiming for this month…. Any further news on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 He won't be match fit for months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, comradejambo said: Was aiming for this month…. Any further news on him? Saw him in the PR bar mid week , looked lean and was walking normally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Seen him in a few of the little snippets of training past week or two on instagram stories so suggests he is back in full training. Likely won't want to rush him after last time round but I reckon we might see him make a squad this side of New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour22 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Can't rely on him, made of glass unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gar jambo Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, Tour22 said: Can't rely on him, made of glass unfortunately. Only since he came to Hearts! He's been unfortunate! Never been like that with Livi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerryJambo81 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 No rush, no point. He's had a bad run, think he was rushed last time. Actually had pretty decent fitness run (lack of injury at least) for long time before the recent hell loop. Could be big for us, could break again and imagine that'll be that if does. Brutal really. Solid defender if can come back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 12 hours ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said: He won't be match fit for months Back to full training...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 9 hours ago, gar jambo said: Only since he came to Hearts! He's been unfortunate! Never been like that with Livi! Only recently. I’m pretty sure he was the only player who played every game when we were in the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 What a boost when he returns. But I fear he might break down again and we can’t rely on him too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 I think we will see him back for the League cup final, scoring a bullet of a header to start us in our way 👊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 I’ve mentioned elsewhere that December is mental for number of games being played. For a player, there’s a fine line between fully fit and playable - wouldn’t surprise me if he was in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMc Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Would be fascinating to see our defence with both Halkett and Kent in it. Have had two dominant CBs at the same time since Presley and Webster? Zal and Berra briefly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, CMc said: Would be fascinating to see our defence with both Halkett and Kent in it. Have had two dominant CBs at the same time since Presley and Webster? Zal and Berra briefly? I actually think that would be a poor pairing in a back 4. In my head it's 1 or the other. In a back 3 yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Section Q said: Back to full training...... Training is training He needs game's to build up his match fitness but will not be able to play consistently full high intensity competitive 90 minute game's for a few months all going well he will need to be careful not to overdo it to begin with as with Boyce and Benni who have been in and out of the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, superjack said: I actually think that would be a poor pairing in a back 4. In my head it's 1 or the other. In a back 3 yes. I think the only option is a back 3 if we want Halkett and Kent in the side. Also worth mentioning Halkett performs at a vastly higher level in a 3 than he does in a 4. Kent on the right, Halkett in the middle, Rowles on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMc Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, superjack said: I actually think that would be a poor pairing in a back 4. In my head it's 1 or the other. In a back 3 yes. Yeah, think it would be great in a back three. They are both ok on the ball. But normally the front foot/back foot combo works best. Also handy to have a lefty. Maybe a two against the OF in a 451? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, hmfc_liam06 said: I think the only option is a back 3 if we want Halkett and Kent in the side. Also worth mentioning Halkett performs at a vastly higher level in a 3 than he does in a 4. Kent on the right, Halkett in the middle, Rowles on the left. That's the back 3 I was going to add to my post, too early in the morning for me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 12 hours ago, Tour22 said: Can't rely on him, made of glass unfortunately. Dr Tour22 MD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Kent looks uncomfortable bringing the ball out from the back and as a wide centre back in a 3, you need to be able to do that. Reckon therefore it will be Halkett or Kent in the middle. Rowles on the left and then Kingsley on the right. Was skeptical with Kingsley on his weaker side against Livi but he looked fine. Didn’t have to defend much obviously however bringing the ball out from the back wise, he was good. Punt Sibbick in January and replace with someone who can play right centre back in a 3. As I think the 3 at the back is here to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 54 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: Kent looks uncomfortable bringing the ball out from the back and as a wide centre back in a 3, you need to be able to do that. Reckon therefore it will be Halkett or Kent in the middle. Rowles on the left and then Kingsley on the right. Was skeptical with Kingsley on his weaker side against Livi but he looked fine. Didn’t have to defend much obviously however bringing the ball out from the back wise, he was good. Punt Sibbick in January and replace with someone who can play right centre back in a 3. As I think the 3 at the back is here to stay. If Halkett gets back to full fitness and form we won't be leaving either him or Kent on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Famous 1874 said: Kent looks uncomfortable bringing the ball out from the back and as a wide centre back in a 3, you need to be able to do that. Reckon therefore it will be Halkett or Kent in the middle. Rowles on the left and then Kingsley on the right. Was skeptical with Kingsley on his weaker side against Livi but he looked fine. Didn’t have to defend much obviously however bringing the ball out from the back wise, he was good. Punt Sibbick in January and replace with someone who can play right centre back in a 3. As I think the 3 at the back is here to stay. Agree Kent sitting too deep when we were starting to build and not keen on taking ball forward. Might be able to coach that out of him. Kingsley on wrong side didn’t make any errors but no option to stay or pass wide cutting off some of the options of quick build up. Against the likes of Livi, we need to be able to very quickly probe every angle. At some point we find the hole. Kingsley in that position didn’t help. That said, he will score a stunning free kick tomorrow. Hope it’s enough to take us through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Last chance saloon for Halkett I fear. Another bad injury will be one too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Hopefully he’ll be ok this time. His troubles all started with a vicious tackle from a Hibs hammer thrower during the cup semi final win. Maloney sent them out to kick us off the park and Beaton let it go for far too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: Hopefully he’ll be ok this time. His troubles all started with a vicious tackle from a Hibs hammer thrower during the cup semi final win. Maloney sent them out to kick us off the park and Beaton let it go for far too long. Newels assault on McKay near the start of the game set the tone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour22 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 8 hours ago, Sooks said: Dr Tour22 MD ? Do you think we can rely on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger jambo98 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 January for him and Craig Gordon according to Naismith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Better safe than sorry hope we get more luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Any update on Mackay and Natty. In Barrie’s case I’m still not sure I’ve seen it confirmed what the actual injury was!! our comms on injuries is strangely lacking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, ginger jambo98 said: January for him and Craig Gordon according to Naismith. Hopefully it means a strong 2nd half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, ginger jambo98 said: January for him and Craig Gordon according to Naismith. GUess it makes sense but still can't help being a bit disappointed. They'll be more disappointed than me I'd think though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Seems to be pushed further and further back his return date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour22 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: Seems to be pushed further and further back his return date. He won't be fully match fit for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, TheBigO said: GUess it makes sense but still can't help being a bit disappointed. They'll be more disappointed than me I'd think though! They have probably known all along their expected return dates, they will both only want to come back when they are fit enough and won't break down again. No point in coming back if they last half an hour and then take another few weeks out. Hopefully both in prime condition when they return and can have an impact second half of the season. With the SC to go for it might work out well to have them both back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ginger jambo98 said: January for him and Craig Gordon according to Naismith. Don’t think he’ll ever be the player he was, really hope I’m wrong. His confidence will be shot, it will be a long time before he’s anywhere near match fit. I just fear for him. Edited November 14, 2023 by jamboozy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, jamboozy said: Don’t think he’ll ever be the player he was, really hope I’m wrong. His confidence will be shot, it will be a long time before he’s anywhere near match fit. I'm not so sure, he has come back from an injury that he retired from and got back to his best. If anyone can do it then its Gordon. I wouldn't be at all surprised if when he comes back its like he hasn't been away. That's what I'm hoping for anyway for his sake and ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, PapaShango said: I'm not so sure, he has come back from an injury that he retired from and got back to his best. If anyone can do it then its Gordon. I wouldn't be at all surprised if when he comes back its like he hasn't been away. That's what I'm hoping for anyway for his sake and ours. Sorry PS , I should’ve made it clear it was Craig Halkett I was referring to. Wholeheartedly agree about Craig Gordon. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: Seems to be pushed further and further back his return date. I don't think he can afford to break down again. Needs to make sure when he comes back, its for good and there isn't another long lay off immediately on the cards. Agree though, its frustrating. Looking forward to a back 3 of Kent Halks and Rowles - Genuinely think that trio is best of the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Any update on Mackay and Natty. In Barrie’s case I’m still not sure I’ve seen it confirmed what the actual injury was!! our comms on injuries is strangely lacking Naismith said today they are both running on grass again, but it will take time (I suspect they will be back after the winter break like the Craigs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Rudi Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Kent and Halkett will be first names on team sheet if both fit. If played in a three, Kent Halkett Rowles. If played in a 4, same as above, with Atkinson or another experienced new signing at RB. Kingsley will surely not be shoehorned into playing on the right and will vie with Cochrane for a start on the left. Kingsley an able deputy in any defensive position when needed. If Kingsley carries on in this form, I think it's Cochrane that will struggle to get starts tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 The way Beni has been managed gives me hope. Yes, he's a little bit younger, but we're starting to see him get back to his best now. Was genuinely worried his career might have been over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Naismith said today they are both running on grass again, but it will take time (I suspect they will be back after the winter break like the Craigs.) The way I read it was that Atkinson and Mackay were quite a bit behind the other too. End of January sounds a bit more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Craig_ said: The way Beni has been managed gives me hope. Yes, he's a little bit younger, but we're starting to see him get back to his best now. Was genuinely worried his career might have been over. Agree but sadly it won’t be with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc4life1991 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Halkett and Craig Gordon are scheduled to play in a behind closed doors game against Queens Park today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, PapaShango said: They have probably known all along their expected return dates, they will both only want to come back when they are fit enough and won't break down again. No point in coming back if they last half an hour and then take another few weeks out. Hopefully both in prime condition when they return and can have an impact second half of the season. With the SC to go for it might work out well to have them both back. Oh absolutely! Don't disagree with the course of action. Just desperate to have them back!! To be fair our defence has probably been our most funtional department this season - Kent has made a huge difference (excellent recruitment - imagine that!). Bar a couple of real individual errors, it's been a good unit (and despite injuries to the Fbs). It's the Craigseses' leadership and grit I'm after (well, that and Gordon's world class saves!). I said on a thread yesterday that one great thing perhaps overlooked is that these guys and Barrie will be back at training day in day out, raising the quality and intensity of every session and now being there to show the newer guys our standards. That's no bad thing. We HAVE got leaders in our dressing room, we've simply been missing 2 the two lead leaders for quite a while. So yeah hopefully New Year just means that's when they'll play or be ready for selection in the XI, but that they're in full squad training from now. It's all good news man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, hmfc4life1991 said: Halkett and Craig Gordon are scheduled to play in a behind closed doors game against Queens Park today. great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) See when he does return are we all in agreement that while he is getting back up to speed , we will use the following terms ( many other people agree needs to feature heavily in the absence of actual facts ) : Slow Unathletic Les Dawson towing a caravan Not the same player he was Disinterested Fat Never that good to begin with Maybe pre determine a time limit on it before we all accept that players take time to return to match fitness and sharpness after long term injury Edited November 14, 2023 by Sooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, hmfc4life1991 said: Halkett and Craig Gordon are scheduled to play in a behind closed doors game against Queens Park today. Great! I hope it goes well for them.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, hmfc4life1991 said: Halkett and Craig Gordon are scheduled to play in a behind closed doors game against Queens Park today. That's great news, fingers crossed all goes well. Any news on Natty and Barrie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 It's at times like this, giving injured players game time, that a reserve league would be of huge benefit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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