db211833 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 We rightly moan about Scottish refs, but this guy is another disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 We’re just as much to blame. So so naive at this level. Like it or not we need to get better at the dark arts. If that’s Martin Boyle instead of Frankie Kent getting shoved in the box it’s a penalty. It’s not about shouting and screaming at the refs but just getting inside his head so he thinks different the next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 We’re not respected enough by continental refs, we are not cute enough also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 He's dreadful. They can do whatever they like, pushing players over, kicking the ball away. Awaiting the customary red card for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Darkness Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Giving them everything and us next to nothing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Spent first hour giving no fouls at all and now decided to penalise Hearts for every challenge. Still letting them off with two handed shoves at high balls though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalOrder74 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Shocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Spent to much time on holiday in the West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 He was impossibly shit. From the land that fouls forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Made the win even sweeter. Some decisions were mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, DS98 said: We’re just as much to blame. So so naive at this level. Like it or not we need to get better at the dark arts. If that’s Martin Boyle instead of Frankie Kent getting shoved in the box it’s a penalty. It’s not about shouting and screaming at the refs but just getting inside his head so he thinks different the next time. We’re just as much to blame ? Don’t talk shite. Blatant pushing the whole gave and we didn’t get fouls and that’s our fault how ? Edited August 17, 2023 by Dazo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dazo said: We’re just as much to blame ? Don’t talk shite. Blatant pushing the whole gave and we didn’t get fouls and that’s our fault how ? Agreed! How we play and the refs performance have nowt to do with each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) He was howling. Even got a message from a hun mate saying the ref hated us tonight. I always find euro games that refs seem to like having a big say on the matches. Edited August 17, 2023 by OmiyaHearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best in the land Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, Imaman said: Spent to much time on holiday in the West Was he norweegie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best in the land Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, jamboozy said: We’re not respected enough by continental refs, we are not cute enough also. Feel were not streetwise and a bit naive in these games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, best in the land said: Feel were not streetwise and a bit naive in these games Has nowt to do with a ref being incompetent verging on biased Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Horrendous at his job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Awful, let them away with a lot and time wasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfan Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Agree ... he was atrocious! The amount of times I shouted it was a free kick to us and he gave it the other way. Came to the conclusion Ref's are pretty much bad everywhere .... with a few exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, Dazo said: We’re just as much to blame ? Don’t talk shite. Blatant pushing the whole gave and we didn’t get fouls and that’s our fault how ? Settle yourself sweetheart. We are very naive and give refs an easy ride. It’s been discussed on here many a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 The Israeli League must have different rules. Blatantly shoving the opposition in the back with both hands 🙌 is clearly a legitimate move over there? I always feel we are disadvantaged in Europe: mainland continental refs when it's Hearts vs. mainland continental FC. I am aware Israel isn’t in Europe, mainland or otherwise, but you get my drift. I hope. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 He was shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, DS98 said: We’re just as much to blame. So so naive at this level. Like it or not we need to get better at the dark arts. If that’s Martin Boyle instead of Frankie Kent getting shoved in the box it’s a penalty. It’s not about shouting and screaming at the refs but just getting inside his head so he thinks different the next time. 🤦🏻🥱😴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Worse than last weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, db211833 said: We rightly moan about Scottish refs, but this guy is another disaster. Obviously 1 hour ago, DS98 said: We’re just as much to blame. So so naive at this level. Like it or not we need to get better at the dark arts. If that’s Martin Boyle instead of Frankie Kent getting shoved in the box it’s a penalty. It’s not about shouting and screaming at the refs but just getting inside his head so he thinks different the next time. Shut up its obvious. It's about obvious. Pffft Edited August 17, 2023 by Ked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmreido Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Heart of Darkness said: Giving them everything and us next to nothing!! The whole game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmreido Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Shocking ref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlo Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I try to avoid criticising referees too much, but some of the decisions tonight were nothing short of incredible. Just as well there were not really any big decisions to make in the game tonight given how he manged to miss so many blatant free kicks or give them the wrong way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey51 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 We need to wise up, Cochrane getting booked was just stupid. That could have cost us, we need to just get the heads up and work even harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordiegords Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Shove after shove after shove they got away with, ref was hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 That foul he gave against Kent when it was the fat-arsed striker who had blatantly obstructed him was mind-boggling. Then he followed that up by ignoring a lunge on McKay only to give them a foul when Devlin won the ball back cleanly. I must have said the word ‘*****’ about 50 times tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, Gershwin said: That foul he gave against Kent when it was the fat-arsed striker who had blatantly obstructed him was mind-boggling. Then he followed that up by ignoring a lunge on McKay only to give them a foul when Devlin won the ball back cleanly. I must have said the word ‘*****’ about 50 times tonight. That striker seemed to get away with murder tonight, took him about 6 fouls before he got booked. Celebrated right in our faces when he scored with the big man routine. Hope he’s hurting tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_hmfc Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 He let the game flow...so that's a plus in my book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, DS98 said: Settle yourself sweetheart. We are very naive and give refs an easy ride. It’s been discussed on here many a time. I agree with some of the stuff we do but some of those shoves? That’s obviously not us being naive. Christ two hands on someone’s back and push. That’s a foul every time surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Must have borrowed one of the one way whistles from through west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, kevin_hmfc said: He let the game flow...so that's a plus in my book Your book is written in braille Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Absolute wee hitler. I'd have a Scottish ref over these clowns anyday. At least they know what a competitive game is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 We won despite the ref being disastrous!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo61 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, jamboozy said: We’re not respected enough by continental refs, we are not cute enough also. They weren't even close to cute, but he turned a blind eye from the start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I might be wrong, but what European refs have proven in our first two games, they are not swayed by fan reaction, be it right or wrong. We need to be smarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, martoon said: The Israeli League must have different rules. Blatantly shoving the opposition in the back with both hands 🙌 is clearly a legitimate move over there? I always feel we are disadvantaged in Europe: mainland continental refs when it's Hearts vs. mainland continental FC. I am aware Israel isn’t in Europe, mainland or otherwise, but you get my drift. I hope. 😉 And foul throws......no longer apply...🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstomorrow Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I have seen bogus workmen more competent than that fud tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, micole said: And foul throws......no longer apply...🤷♂️ I didn't notice that. Well spotted. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, BelgeJambo said: I might be wrong, but what European refs have proven in our first two games, they are not swayed by fan reaction, be it right or wrong. We need to be smarter I've learned something different. Refs seem to be awful the world over. That was nothing to do with fan reaction, he was incompetent at his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Ked said: Obviously Shut up its obvious. It's about obvious. Pffft Again in kings English young man? 22 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I agree with some of the stuff we do but some of those shoves? That’s obviously not us being naive. Christ two hands on someone’s back and push. That’s a foul every time surely. Oh absolutely he was really bad tonight. But so was Dickinson on Sunday and I’m sure whatever trumpet we get against Thistle will be the same. My point was more general that we are such a soft touch with refs and make it too easy for them. I made a point in another thread about Denholm getting elbowed in head. We got the free kick but he just got up and got on with it. A wee grab of the head, roll around and bit and their boys on a booking. It’s not right but these teams do it to us (Devlin first leg) so we need to be more cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 He was an attention seeking *****. Near the end, the second Clark caught the ball he sprinted over to tell him to get on with it. And don’t even get me started on the way he treated Cochrane when getting subbed. A genuinely bizarre individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Quite typical from a 'European' ref. Seen it before. He did allow some 50:50 challenges that would be fouls in Scotland. Bookings you expect to get. Overall its what we should expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1975 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 It's laughable we are playing in a uefa competition but VAR is not in use. Ref was awful tonight, but at a standard we are used to seeing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, jambo1975 said: It's laughable we are playing in a uefa competition but VAR is not in use. Ref was awful tonight, but at a standard we are used to seeing! VAR would have given us 2 pens tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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