vegas-voss Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 How long until we hear moans from Europe's elite league especially the EPL. 5 , 10 or 15 years maybe even less if it goes at this rate.All a laugh and a joke just now but these ****ers will be looking to be the number 1 league in the world soon.A super league without Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Doubt it. They can have a good league but there only 4 clubs spending big money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 18, 2023 Author Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Doubt it. They can have a good league but there only 4 clubs spending big money. Just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Not every one wants to live there . I know I would not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Sooks said: Not every one wants to live there . I know I would not Rumour is Messi’s wife didn’t want to go and that’s why he’s ended up in Miami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: How long until we hear moans from Europe's elite league especially the EPL. 5 , 10 or 15 years maybe even less if it goes at this rate.All a laugh and a joke just now but these ****ers will be looking to be the number 1 league in the world soon.A super league without Europe. they own a few major european clubs also ,will not be long before they make elite league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) I think it’s far more likely that the Middle East owners of EPL clubs have a grand and not too distant plan to buy 3-4 more and form a breakaway, composed mainly of UK based clubs. The whole deck of cards would fall. Sky TV would be isolated and marginalised and Some non Arab owned clubs would fall over themselves to join it, perhaps even 2 Scottish clubs would throw their tattered hats in the ring. 🤪 Edited June 18, 2023 by JimmyCant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, LarrysRightFoot said: Rumour is Messi’s wife didn’t want to go and that’s why he’s ended up in Miami Do not blame her . I think it is just like the American League tbh . Good retirement option when you are no longer up to it at the highest level any more . Do two or three seasons and make a mint before hanging up the boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Women are restricted in what they can do in Saudi Arabia. So it will be a factor for some players. A lot of players won't take their families. Saudi Arabia could of course become normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottieMac17 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just another Chinese super League... Give it a few years and it will be dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, ScottieMac17 said: Just another Chinese super League... Give it a few years and it will be dead Wouldnt be so sure about that. They have money/oil to burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/05/business/saudi-higher-oil-prices-grand-plans-mime-intl/index.html For what it is worth , here is a bit about their economic plans . Economic deficit and wanting to diversify their economy away from just oil and gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 It not going to take over from the EPL . A retirement home for has beens and mercenaries. no fans and no interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Ruben Neves: Wolves captain set to join Saudi Arabia's Al Hilal in £47m deal By Simon StoneBBC Sport Last updated on Wolves have agreed a 55m euro (£47m) deal to sell captain Ruben Neves to Saudi Arabia's Al Hilal. The 26-year-old Portuguese midfielder Neves had a year left on his contract. He said at the end of last season he was ambitious amid interest from Barcelona. However, Barca have not been able to come up with an acceptable offer and Neves has taken the option of becoming the latest big-name player to join the Saudi league. Karim Benzema completed a free transfer to Al Ittihad this month and Chelsea midfielder N'Golo Kante is linked with joining him, while Cristiano Ronaldo moved to Al Nassr in December. Wolves regard it as excellent business at a time where they are trying to generate funds for manager Julen Lopetegui to strengthen his squad. Neves has been central to their success since joining from Porto in 2017. He helped them win the Championship a year later and then to two consecutive seventh-placed finishes in the Premier League. The club also reached the Europa League quarter-finals in 2020 - where they were knocked out by Lopetegui's Sevilla - but have struggled to replicate that success and finished 13th last season having been bottom at Christmas. Neves has made 253 appearances for Wolves in all competitions, scoring 30 goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Saudi's have takem over golf, apparently about to take over the IPL in cricket and no doubt see football as the crown jewells to target. I can see them making big inroads which if they succeed will no doubt see the Super League for the small group of elite clubs re-emerge in the never ending pursuit of even more cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ScottieMac17 said: Just another Chinese super League... Give it a few years and it will be dead Correct. I work in an industry where I could conceivably go to Saudi and make a hell of a lot of money but would not do it. Might suit certain footballers at certain stages of their career but absolutely no chance of it becoming a league to rival the top countries. Saudi money overwhelming football, however… Edited June 18, 2023 by Peebo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, maroonsgotop said: Saudi's have takem over golf, apparently about to take over the IPL in cricket and no doubt see football as the crown jewells to target. I can see them making big inroads which if they succeed will no doubt see the Super League for the small group of elite clubs re-emerge in the never ending pursuit of even more cash Liv was clearly failing so they basically bought the PGA. They will invest in football but there is no way the Saudi league becomes in any way relevant IMO. 50 degrees and no one will want to live there imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Liv was clearly failing so they basically bought the PGA. They will invest in football but there is no way the Saudi league becomes in any way relevant IMO. 50 degrees and no one will want to live there imo. 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: Women are restricted in what they can do in Saudi Arabia. So it will be a factor for some players. A lot of players won't take their families. Saudi Arabia could of course become normal. Made me chuckle, Mikey. 😄 Fat chance of it happening, mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ScottieMac17 said: Just another Chinese super League... Give it a few years and it will be dead exactly how I feel, one will get players and attention but still miss the point with a lot of things. Money will get players over but the best footballers got to where they are because they want to perform at the highest stage. Its why the Champions League holds so much sway over things, because players see that as the pinnacle so to win that is to achieve your ultimate goal and be the seen the greatest in the world. I dont doubt some surprise players will go to Saudi Arabia, for silly money. But the idea that this will break the hold of the top leagues in Europe and make Saudi league a new football super power is far fetched. A lot of this is part of a big plan for Saudi Arabia to get the 2030 World Cup (they are already doing deals with FAs in Asia and Africa which will help them in votes, a Saudi League with lots of high profile players shows that there is already top level football there.) I would say, with Reuben Neves, it would not surprise me if Wolves have pushing the player to move there, they have serious issues with FFP so need to balance books. I think we will see quite a few Premier leagues players go to Saudi Arabia as their clubs look to get rid of them for over the top money. Edited June 18, 2023 by jamboinglasgow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: exactly how I feel, one will get players and attention but still miss the point with a lot of things. Money will get players over but the best footballers got to where they are because they want to perform at the highest stage. Its why the Champions League holds so much sway over things, because players see that as the pinnacle so to win that is to achieve your ultimate goal and be the seen the greatest in the world. I dont doubt some surprise players will go to Saudi Arabia, for silly money. But the idea that this will break the hold of the top leagues in Europe and make Saudi league a new football super power is far fetched. A lot of this is part of a big plan for Saudi Arabia to get the 2030 World Cup (they are already doing deals with FAs in Asia and Africa which will help them in votes, a Saudi League with lots of high profile players shows that there is already top level football there.) I would say, with Reuben Neves, it would not surprise me if Wolves have pushing the player to move there, they have serious issues with FFP so need to balance books. I think we will see quite a few Premier leagues players go to Saudi Arabia as their clubs look to get rid of them for over the top money. You wonder what deals are being done. Madrid cancelling Benzema's final year of contract. As you say that is a big boost for Chinese owned Wolves who as you say need to the money to meet FFP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, JimmyCant said: 2 Scottish clubs would throw their tattered hats in the ring. 🤪 Or even throw their tattered rings in the hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, Mikey1874 said: You wonder what deals are being done. Madrid cancelling Benzema's final year of contract. As you say that is a big boost for Chinese owned Wolves who as you say need to the money to meet FFP. Yup, seen that 3 Chelsea players are reportedly in talks to go to Saudi (where question marks over funding of Chelsea's take over where Saudi Arabia may be a big funder towards Boehly.) Saudi get 3 bigger players, and help out Chelsea with massive FFP issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Saw a child today wearing (only kids wear football tops apparently) a top saying Ronaldo on it. It was his new Saudi team. Bizzare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Let them spunk as much money as they want. If they think people are going to stop watching the Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, etc, in favour of the Saudi Money League, they will be in for a shock. They might get a couple of years of interest for the big names, but it will die off quickly, and they'll be paying big money for people no one are watching. **** Saudi sportswashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 ...Imagine if Scotland kept all our oil money for ourselves.... we could... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Can safely say I'll never watch a Saudi football game in my life no matter who plays in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, indianajones said: Can safely say I'll never watch a Saudi football game in my life no matter who plays in the league. Snap. **** them and their bankrolling nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 I wouldn't be surprised to see the saudi league getting champions league places. It wouldn’t be too difficult for them to hand over bags full of cash to the right people… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Sarah O said: ...Imagine if Scotland kept all our oil money for ourselves.... we could... Stupid post on a number of levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if neves never plays a game in the saudi league and is instead loaned straight to a saudi backed Prem club. Similar situation to us and Kaunas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said: Stupid post on a number of levels. Good lord. How does one emphasise a tongue in cheek post if not with a tiny JJ emoji? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, Sarah O said: ...Imagine if Scotland kept all our oil money for ourselves.... we could... Green tail wagging the SNP dog now. Oil & gas is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 18, 2023 Author Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, maroonsgotop said: Saudi's have takem over golf, apparently about to take over the IPL in cricket and no doubt see football as the crown jewells to target. I can see them making big inroads which if they succeed will no doubt see the Super League for the small group of elite clubs re-emerge in the never ending pursuit of even more cash Sure somebody told me they were going after the basketball as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Sarah O said: Good lord. How does one emphasise a tongue in cheek post if not with a tiny JJ emoji? Just your usual. He prefers the national debt in the the uk to the oil fund of Norway. It's their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I have never watched a Saudi football match in my life.I cannot see that changing if being honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, R9. said: I also wouldn’t mind Saudi money in Hearts and buy the league from the old firm 😂 Yeah I know i wouldnt mind either but then you have to look at where that money is coming from and look beyond that at the implications further down the track, which i think a few teams will be facing in the future, for example we might win a title or two but then we could get investigated and found to be financially doping the league and then get relegated or have our titles stripped etc. Would much rather be run how we are now, mind you if a legitimate billionaire business did want to chuck a bit of cash in then by all means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgierools Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 12 hours ago, JimmyCant said: I think it’s far more likely that the Middle East owners of EPL clubs have a grand and not too distant plan to buy 3-4 more and form a breakaway, composed mainly of UK based clubs. The whole deck of cards would fall. Sky TV would be isolated and marginalised and Some non Arab owned clubs would fall over themselves to join it, perhaps even 2 Scottish clubs would throw their tattered hats in the ring. 🤪 Or more likely,their tattered rings into the hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 19, 2023 Author Share Posted June 19, 2023 Not all ***** Modric rejects €200m Saudi deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 13 hours ago, ScottieMac17 said: Just another Chinese super League... Give it a few years and it will be dead 13 hours ago, Naisys Tackle said: Wouldnt be so sure about that. They have money/oil to burn. Pretty much what I was thinking, but the bottomless pot of cash does give it a bit more shelf life. Money will always talk at the end of the day but like China, surely players will quickly realise it's not what they really want. It's fine for players at the end of their career but for players in their prime like Neves, a couple of seasons in the Saudi league is going to be plenty. Then the problem with moving on is who's going to pay over the odds for a player who's played in a genuine farmers league. As an aside, I've long thought that it won't be long before we see a 'World' Champions League. The Club World Cup expansion hasn't ever really taken off or been finalised and with the new format coming to the UCL next season, UEFA will then be looking ahead to how they can 'improve' it going forward. I genuinely believe part of that will be inviting Asian and South American clubs, among others, to participate in the Champions League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Nobodies going to the Middle East to play football for any reason other than bags of cash. Signing all these players isn’t going to drastically improve the standard over there because this is just going to be a paid holiday for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I'd take the cash, who knows who they are currently working for anyhow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Some really pathetic Saudi League jokes, feel free to add Kurt Zouma has signed a 2 year deal with Al-Kikyoorkat Ivan Toney has signed a 3 year deal with Al-Betagainstya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 59 minutes ago, Armageddon said: Some really pathetic Saudi League jokes, feel free to add Kurt Zouma has signed a 2 year deal with Al-Kikyoorkat Ivan Toney has signed a 3 year deal with Al-Betagainstya Forgetting the big one. Armageddon signing a 3 year deal with Al-Getmecoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 9 hours ago, ri Alban said: Just your usual. He prefers the national debt in the the uk to the oil fund of Norway. It's their way. Can you show me where i have ever stated that? Or are you a few cans in as normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Echoes of the NASL in the US during the 70s and early 80s. Pele, Cruyff, Best, Beckenbauer all went there at the end of their careers. If the Yanks couldn’t make it work neither will the Saudis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 57 minutes ago, westbow said: Echoes of the NASL in the US during the 70s and early 80s. Pele, Cruyff, Best, Beckenbauer all went there at the end of their careers. If the Yanks couldn’t make it work neither will the Saudis. The Saudi's I know aren't best pleased about Qatar getting a world cup ahead of them and want to project themselves on the big stage too, all part of a bigger picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: The Saudi's I know aren't best pleased about Qatar getting a world cup ahead of them and want to project themselves on the big stage too, all part of a bigger picture. Its clear that is what the Saudis want and every project is geared towards this (as well as a few other reasons.) By FIFAs past comments there should be two world cups in the same regions in the space of 8 years, but I just dont trust FIFA and the delegates not to give it to the Saudis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 20 hours ago, ri Alban said: Just your usual. He prefers the national debt in the the uk to the oil fund of Norway. It's their way. Still waiting on you showing a post of mine that says anything like that. Or are you unable to focus by now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 One thing in the Saudi leagues favour. I watched Martin Boyle's first game there and he got booked for diving trying to win a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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