Neilson Poll March 2023

[1971fozzy]

1 hour ago, Jim Panzee said:

This post is far far too lengthy, laden with rationale and reasonable conjecture.

 

please shorten, include loads more hyperbole and at the very least exclamation marks. Perhaps interject  with suggestions players should run up and down large banks of sand, with a manager barking at them, and a proposal of a fresh poll 11 minutes into our next game v killie whilst we are losing 0-0.

 

5/10 Led. Must try harder.

his last sentence is perfect

[Pasquale for King]

3 hours ago, merseyjambo said:

No but a lot of the Neilson Defence Force claim that the reason was the Plane and Phoodle Out.

 

To play 343 you need a mobile midfield and wingbacks and that’s something we’ve not had. Im not quite sure I’d say that the football has been enjoyable. It’s been dysfunctional and unconvincing even though we’ve got the results.

 

As for the square pegs/round holes point, sorry but it’s something he does regularly. Just because Kingsley is tagged as a defender or Grant as a midfielder does not mean they are suited to the positions they are being asked to play.

 

Smirh/Kingsley - Not Wing Backs. Not got the engine

Grant - Supposedly an attacking Midfielder, not a workhorse in the middle of a 4

Shanklamd - Definitely better through the middle in the penalty box

Snodgrass - Doesn’t have the legs needed to play in a 343

 

Sometimes you have to pick your formation to suit the personnel at your disposal and it’s clear to see that the players we have are not suited to it especially away from home of against a team like Celtic. The midfield gets overrun and defence is immediately under pressure. The ball has to go sideways because our wingbacks are not wingbacks, they are more naturally suited to defensive roles and there is also a severe lack of movement from our forward players.

 

This weekend is huge for RN and Hearts. An away match at a ground where recently we have been pretty poor and the chasing pack with very winnable games. 

 

 

So we beat a Dundee United side that either just had the Thursday before of were about to the Thursday after get absolutely pummelled by AZ. The same team that then went out and lost 9-0 to Celtic. 
 

An Aberdeen side that we had 5 shots on goal against and scored, who looked like they had given up trying for Goodwin, who then lost to Darvel before Hibs put 6 past them.

 

I’d also look at a little bit of revisionist history in the other games mentioned. Personally I thought the score lines against St Johnstone and Hibs flattered us a little.  Fairly sure St Johnstone hit the woodwork on a couple of occasions as did Dundee United when Humphrey’s scored from half way line. In the run after the World Cup, we rode our luck in a few games.

Spot on

[karipidis]

8 hours ago, merseyjambo said:

No but a lot of the Neilson Defence Force claim that the reason was the Plane and Phoodle Out.

 

To play 343 you need a mobile midfield and wingbacks and that’s something we’ve not had. Im not quite sure I’d say that the football has been enjoyable. It’s been dysfunctional and unconvincing even though we’ve got the results.

 

As for the square pegs/round holes point, sorry but it’s something he does regularly. Just because Kingsley is tagged as a defender or Grant as a midfielder does not mean they are suited to the positions they are being asked to play.

 

Smirh/Kingsley - Not Wing Backs. Not got the engine

Grant - Supposedly an attacking Midfielder, not a workhorse in the middle of a 4

Shanklamd - Definitely better through the middle in the penalty box

Snodgrass - Doesn’t have the legs needed to play in a 343

 

Sometimes you have to pick your formation to suit the personnel at your disposal and it’s clear to see that the players we have are not suited to it especially away from home of against a team like Celtic. The midfield gets overrun and defence is immediately under pressure. The ball has to go sideways because our wingbacks are not wingbacks, they are more naturally suited to defensive roles and there is also a severe lack of movement from our forward players.

 

This weekend is huge for RN and Hearts. An away match at a ground where recently we have been pretty poor and the chasing pack with very winnable games. 

 

 

So we beat a Dundee United side that either just had the Thursday before of were about to the Thursday after get absolutely pummelled by AZ. The same team that then went out and lost 9-0 to Celtic. 
 

An Aberdeen side that we had 5 shots on goal against and scored, who looked like they had given up trying for Goodwin, who then lost to Darvel before Hibs put 6 past them.

 

I’d also look at a little bit of revisionist history in the other games mentioned. Personally I thought the score lines against St Johnstone and Hibs flattered us a little.  Fairly sure St Johnstone hit the woodwork on a couple of occasions as did Dundee United when Humphrey’s scored from half way line. In the run after the World Cup, we rode our luck in a few games.

Analyse the home results as much as you want. Someone mentioned that Tynecastle needs to be fun again. My point was this season has been more entertaining than your standard season at tynecastle. 

[merseyjambo]

8 hours ago, Led Tasso said:

 

Kingsley wants to be an FB, I get that. But last season he played as a forward ranging LCH and was one of our best players there. Before coming here he was an out of favor English Championship player. He's played fullback a few times this season and hasn't convinced there or looked better than Cochrane. Why is the position he's excelled in most for us the "wrong" position?

 

Both Grant and Snodgrass are better as forward playing midfielders. But we've been gutted at defensive midfielders, and Kio hasn't stepped up to the role yet. They are playing out of position because we need defensive midfielders and don't have them. Why is that a mistake?

 

The hardest parts of Shankland's career have been when he was stuck up top and expected to create. He doesn't create chances with pace or take isolated defenders on one-on-one to create his chances. He poaches in the box and on the outside of it. The classic Shankland goal is someone else broke down the side and found him cutting in at the post or hunting in the middle of the box in space the defenders have dropped from. Ginnelly on the other hand has excelled as the forward-bursting striker. Why is it a mistake to play Shankland as a withdrawn striker?

 

On the wingbacks: last season our best football came when our wingbacks weren't playing as speedsters or bombers, but when they were reliable outlets when pressure built in the middle, and received passes either to retain possession or to push forward.

 

Robbie designed this 3-4-3 to work best with attacking CHs and wingbacks that act more as midfielders. It suited our personnel last season and hasn't worked as well this season because of injuries and because we've never been able to get a RCH that can replace what Souttar did for us in terms of creating danger by ranging forward. It hasn't helped that Kingsley's gone off the boil so much or that Rowles has had to play in the middle so much because of Halkett's absence.

 

We've recruited for four windows for the 3-4-3 now.

We've drilled on 3-4-3 for two seasons.

3-4-3 is the system that Robbie wants to instill.

We are third having primarily used a 3-4-3 for most of the season.

We have racked up a lot of points and goal difference using the 3-4-3.

 

I get that some folk don't like the 3-4-3. That doesn't mean we're playing it wrong. The problem at Aberdeen and Motherwell is that the players looked tired and listless and didn't put in a shift. If it takes a formation change to fix that and re-instill some energy, then we need a formation change. If it takes a manager change to get the players to get their heads up, then we need a manager change.

Led, you’re arguing against your own point.

 

343 does not work with the personnel we have.

 

Problems

 

1. Failure to replace Souttar. 
2. When Halkett went down in Zurich, it was clear we needed an experienced replacement 

3. Midfield signings - Snodgrass, Kio and Grant do not have the engine to play in a 343, so why were they brought in. If it’s our go to formation then none of the 3 have the graft required to play in there.

 

Last Season

 

1. Devlin and Beni worked. Both were mobile and Beni was always looking for the short ball to get things going

2. Simms and Boyce were always willing to show for the ball or move.

A good general knows that if he can’t win on the battlefield with his preferred troops adapts his tactics to suit the troops he has at his disposal. Robbie needs to be a good general and realise that his tactics are failing and needs to do what he needs to do to secure 3rd. 
 

 

 

[mre]

9 hours ago, Led Tasso said:

 we need a manager change.

Well said, 100% agree 👍

[Bazzas right boot]

10 hours ago, Led Tasso said:

 

Kingsley wants to be an FB, I get that. But last season he played as a forward ranging LCH and was one of our best players there. Before coming here he was an out of favor English Championship player. He's played fullback a few times this season and hasn't convinced there or looked better than Cochrane. Why is the position he's excelled in most for us the "wrong" position?

 

Both Grant and Snodgrass are better as forward playing midfielders. But we've been gutted at defensive midfielders, and Kio hasn't stepped up to the role yet. They are playing out of position because we need defensive midfielders and don't have them. Why is that a mistake?

 

The hardest parts of Shankland's career have been when he was stuck up top and expected to create. He doesn't create chances with pace or take isolated defenders on one-on-one to create his chances. He poaches in the box and on the outside of it. The classic Shankland goal is someone else broke down the side and found him cutting in at the post or hunting in the middle of the box in space the defenders have dropped from. Ginnelly on the other hand has excelled as the forward-bursting striker. Why is it a mistake to play Shankland as a withdrawn striker?

 

On the wingbacks: last season our best football came when our wingbacks weren't playing as speedsters or bombers, but when they were reliable outlets when pressure built in the middle, and received passes either to retain possession or to push forward.

 

Robbie designed this 3-4-3 to work best with attacking CHs and wingbacks that act more as midfielders. It suited our personnel last season and hasn't worked as well this season because of injuries and because we've never been able to get a RCH that can replace what Souttar did for us in terms of creating danger by ranging forward. It hasn't helped that Kingsley's gone off the boil so much or that Rowles has had to play in the middle so much because of Halkett's absence.

 

We've recruited for four windows for the 3-4-3 now.

We've drilled on 3-4-3 for two seasons.

3-4-3 is the system that Robbie wants to instill.

We are third having primarily used a 3-4-3 for most of the season.

We have racked up a lot of points and goal difference using the 3-4-3.

 

I get that some folk don't like the 3-4-3. That doesn't mean we're playing it wrong. The problem at Aberdeen and Motherwell is that the players looked tired and listless and didn't put in a shift. If it takes a formation change to fix that and re-instill some energy, then we need a formation change. If it takes a manager change to get the players to get their heads up, then we need a manager change.

 

Sensible. 

 

And if the manager is changed it isn't happening until the summer.

It's not happening now.

 

[Bazzas right boot]

1 hour ago, merseyjambo said:

Led, you’re arguing against your own point.

 

343 does not work with the personnel we have.

 

Problems

 

1. Failure to replace Souttar. 
2. When Halkett went down in Zurich, it was clear we needed an experienced replacement 

3. Midfield signings - Snodgrass, Kio and Grant do not have the engine to play in a 343, so why were they brought in. If it’s our go to formation then none of the 3 have the graft required to play in there.

 

Last Season

 

1. Devlin and Beni worked. Both were mobile and Beni was always looking for the short ball to get things going

2. Simms and Boyce were always willing to show for the ball or move.

A good general knows that if he can’t win on the battlefield with his preferred troops adapts his tactics to suit the troops he has at his disposal. Robbie needs to be a good general and realise that his tactics are failing and needs to do what he needs to do to secure 3rd. 
 

 

 

 

 

Would have some merit if we hadn't went 10 unbeaten using said formation and were 3rd currently. 

 

Personally I'd go 451, but the arguments for and against a 343 can go backwards and forwards. 

 

The rabids will point ti the last 4 results,  the defence league will point to the league table over a season. 

 

Ironically the rabids also moan about Bob changing things too much but are demanding a change of formation. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jim Panzee]

8 hours ago, 1971fozzy said:

his last sentence is perfect

and your thoughts on the other 90% of the post?

[RustyRightPeg]

I must say, the rumours about Robbie going to turkey to get his hair sorted are an absolute load of bullshit. 

[Jim Panzee]

6 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

I must say, the rumours about Robbie going to turkey to get his hair sorted are an absolute load of bullshit. 

I think we need to verify your opinion with a poll.....

 

 

[NextGenerationJambo]

13 hours ago, Led Tasso said:

We've recruited for four windows for the 3-4-3 now.

We've drilled on 3-4-3 for two seasons.

3-4-3 is the system that Robbie wants to instill.

We are third having primarily used a 3-4-3 for most of the season.

We have racked up a lot of points and goal difference using the 3-4-3.

Sensible post, but what I will say in regards to this is that, in my opinion, this is a failing of the manager. A professional football team and a professional football manager should be capable and prepared to play multiple systems. Especially at a team like Hearts where we have varying degrees of difficulty game to game. Some games we are heavy favourites, others we are complete underdogs. You cannot possibly expect to have one tactic/gameplan for every opponent. A regular criticism of Robbie is a lack of plan B and maybe that is due to his overinvestment in a single system. It absolutely makes sense to have a prefered system that is drilled into the players so they become as familar as possible with it, but we also have to be chameleon-esque and adapt to the circumstances. The team should be coached to be fluid and transition seemlessly between tactics as it oftens happens in game, particularly away from home. I do understand his stubborness with the 343 as it's important to try and develop an identity and familiarity, but when it starts to harm the team in certain situations it has to be ditched for a more favourable system. 

[Jim Panzee]

18 minutes ago, NextGenerationJambo said:

Sensible post, but what I will say in regards to this is that, in my opinion, this is a failing of the manager. A professional football team and a professional football manager should be capable and prepared to play multiple systems. Especially at a team like Hearts where we have varying degrees of difficulty game to game. Some games we are heavy favourites, others we are complete underdogs. You cannot possibly expect to have one tactic/gameplan for every opponent. A regular criticism of Robbie is a lack of plan B and maybe that is due to his overinvestment in a single system. It absolutely makes sense to have a prefered system that is drilled into the players so they become as familar as possible with it, but we also have to be chameleon-esque and adapt to the circumstances. The team should be coached to be fluid and transition seemlessly between tactics as it oftens happens in game, particularly away from home. I do understand his stubborness with the 343 as it's important to try and develop an identity and familiarity, but when it starts to harm the team in certain situations it has to be ditched for a more favourable system. 

get what you're saying. Neilsen did make a change v aberdeen - subs and pushing Sibbick into midfield early doors. maybe says more about the players that day.

 

As the suitably refreshed red face Brian Clough once famously said "Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes"

[NextGenerationJambo]

33 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said:

get what you're saying. Neilsen did make a change v aberdeen - subs and pushing Sibbick into midfield early doors. maybe says more about the players that day.

 

As the suitably refreshed red face Brian Clough once famously said "Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes"

Aye, but we were 3-0 down by that point - it was a change done out of neccessity. I think fans would like to see him be more prognostic in games and not persist for so long with a system that is clearly not bearing fruit.

 

Or better yet, don't start with a system we have notoriously struggled with away from home, even more so against teams of a similar calibre. Now, I understand that over the course of the season 343 has us 4 points clear in third and I get why he wants to persist with it; Robbie also doesn't have a crystal ball, but that stats show that there is clearly a time and a place for it, and being able to interchange between tactics (effectively... not just changing cause we are getting pumped) would have us much more comfortable in third.

 

Hard to argue with Clough, but people do love to downplay the importance of tactics. 11 better players don't always necessarily beat 11 organised and tactically-savvy players. 

[Lambo85]

If he blows 3rd place, he will cost the club millions and there will be no way back for him after that.

 

I have voted "Not Sure" at the minute but if he starts with 3 at the back tomorrow and we get beat then I would be looking to change that vote to a "Times Up!"

Edited March 31, 2023 by Lambo85

[Pasquale for King]

6 hours ago, merseyjambo said:

Led, you’re arguing against your own point.

 

343 does not work with the personnel we have.

 

Problems

 

1. Failure to replace Souttar. 
2. When Halkett went down in Zurich, it was clear we needed an experienced replacement 

3. Midfield signings - Snodgrass, Kio and Grant do not have the engine to play in a 343, so why were they brought in. If it’s our go to formation then none of the 3 have the graft required to play in there.

 

Last Season

 

1. Devlin and Beni worked. Both were mobile and Beni was always looking for the short ball to get things going

2. Simms and Boyce were always willing to show for the ball or move.

A good general knows that if he can’t win on the battlefield with his preferred troops adapts his tactics to suit the troops he has at his disposal. Robbie needs to be a good general and realise that his tactics are failing and needs to do what he needs to do to secure 3rd. 
 

 

 

Good post. 

[Pasquale for King]

20 minutes ago, NextGenerationJambo said:

Aye, but we were 3-0 down by that point - it was a change done out of neccessity. I think fans would like to see him be more prognostic in games and not persist for so long with a system that is clearly not bearing fruit.

 

Or better yet, don't start with a system we have notoriously struggled with away from home, even more so against teams of a similar calibre. Now, I understand that over the course of the season 343 has us 4 points clear in third and I get why he wants to persist with it; Robbie also doesn't have a crystal ball, but that stats show that there is clearly a time and a place for it, and being able to interchange between tactics (effectively... not just changing cause we are getting pumped) would have us much more comfortable in third.

 

Hard to argue with Clough, but people do love to downplay the importance of tactics. 11 better players don't always necessarily beat 11 organised and tactically-savvy players. 

Spot on. Clough was brilliant, the game has changed a lot since then though, maybe not for the better. 

[Jim Panzee]

1 hour ago, NextGenerationJambo said:

Aye, but we were 3-0 down by that point - it was a change done out of neccessity. I think fans would like to see him be more prognostic in games and not persist for so long with a system that is clearly not bearing fruit.

 

Or better yet, don't start with a system we have notoriously struggled with away from home, even more so against teams of a similar calibre. Now, I understand that over the course of the season 343 has us 4 points clear in third and I get why he wants to persist with it; Robbie also doesn't have a crystal ball, but that stats show that there is clearly a time and a place for it, and being able to interchange between tactics (effectively... not just changing cause we are getting pumped) would have us much more comfortable in third.

 

Hard to argue with Clough, but people do love to downplay the importance of tactics. 11 better players don't always necessarily beat 11 organised and tactically-savvy players. 

 

true your bit in bold does happen.

 

but when you look at probs all the top leagues in europe / the globe? the teams at the top generally are the richest, and those riches buy you the better players.

[soonbe110]

4 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

I must say, the rumours about Robbie going to turkey to get his hair sorted are an absolute load of bullshit. 

Most things posted about Robbie are bullshit. 

[soonbe110]

2 hours ago, Jim Panzee said:

get what you're saying. Neilsen did make a change v aberdeen - subs and pushing Sibbick into midfield early doors. maybe says more about the players that day.

 

As the suitably refreshed red face Brian Clough once famously said "Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes"

Clough didn’t know as much about football as the majority on here though did he?

 Every error is the managers fault, I mean, let’s be sensible. 

[Jim Panzee]

3 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

Clough didn’t know as much about football as the majority on here though did he?

 Every error is the managers fault, I mean, let’s be sensible. 

🤣

[Armageddon]

Anyone seen him without a hat the last few days?

 

[merseyjambo]

6 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

 

Would have some merit if we hadn't went 10 unbeaten using said formation and were 3rd currently. 

 

Personally I'd go 451, but the arguments for and against a 343 can go backwards and forwards. 

 

The rabids will point ti the last 4 results,  the defence league will point to the league table over a season. 

 

Ironically the rabids also moan about Bob changing things too much but are demanding a change of formation. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

An in that 10 game run, how many of those  games did the scoreline actually flatter us. I’d wager probably half of them. Off the top of my head, the 2 games against St Mirren, the Aberdeen game, the St Johnstone game , the Dundee United game at Tynecastle and the Hibs game.

 

343 has been creaking for weeks and a combination of Zander and the woodwork allowed us to pick up more points than in all honesty we may have deserved.

 

With the players we have, I’d be tempted to either go 4132 or 4141.

 

Make no mistake, tomorrow is massive for RN and Hearts. Anything other than a win and I wouldn’t have us as favourites for 3rd 

 

Edited March 31, 2023 by merseyjambo

[Watt-Zeefuik]

6 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Sensible. 

 

And if the manager is changed it isn't happening until the summer.

It's not happening now.

 

 

If we play the way we did at Aberdeen for four straight games going into the split, I think the change may happen then. It's the same as Goodwin—if the players have lost faith in the manager as a whole, you just can't go forward. That shouldn't be controversial.

 

All of the guff talked about square pegs and tinkering and stubbornness and the lot is making the game far more complicated than it is.

 

And frankly the disrespect to an outstanding servant of the club is completely uncalled for even if a change is necessary.

 

I've said before Robbie's teams tend to pull out of these slides before much time goes by. I expect us to have a few thumping performances before the split and put third to bed as I've expected all along. The Aberdeen game has me more worried than we had been, but we're still third with a decent cushion, and if we hold to our general season form we should be perfectly fine.

[NextGenerationJambo]

3 hours ago, Jim Panzee said:

 

true your bit in bold does happen.

 

but when you look at probs all the top leagues in europe / the globe? the teams at the top generally are the richest, and those riches buy you the better players.

Of course it happens, I've never argued otherwise.

 

Those teams at the top also use their resources to recruit a master tactitian/coach who is able to get the best out of those 11 players. 

 

If tactics didn't matter that much, teams wouldn't spend millions on a management team, performance analysists and data tracking equipment. Managers would play their best 11 players every week, no matter the opponent, and tell them before a game "just go out and play". 

 

"Where I am playing gaffer?"

 

"Well that doesn't really matter now, does it? You're better than them... you'll figure it out!"

 

Every single game in the world involves tactics - from tic-tac-toe to football. It's inescapable. Especially in modern society. If you want to succeed now, you have to have a manager that has considerable comprehension of the tactics of football. You won't get very far without one... sorry Old Big 'ead👍🏼

[Fozzyonthefence]

2 hours ago, Led Tasso said:

 

If we play the way we did at Aberdeen for four straight games going into the split, I think the change may happen then. It's the same as Goodwin—if the players have lost faith in the manager as a whole, you just can't go forward. That shouldn't be controversial.

 

All of the guff talked about square pegs and tinkering and stubbornness and the lot is making the game far more complicated than it is.

 

And frankly the disrespect to an outstanding servant of the club is completely uncalled for even if a change is necessary.

 

I've said before Robbie's teams tend to pull out of these slides before much time goes by. I expect us to have a few thumping performances before the split and put third to bed as I've expected all along. The Aberdeen game has me more worried than we had been, but we're still third with a decent cushion, and if we hold to our general season form we should be perfectly fine.

It’s not guff and there’s only one man making things more complicated than they need to be. 

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

41 minutes ago, NextGenerationJambo said:

.. sorry Old Big 'ead👍🏼

almost certainly no need to apologise to cloughie its mr panzee has failed to understand the great man

 

any player not sticking to cloughies game plan were substituted / didn’t get a game - source - just about every player in the European cup winning squads including Trevor Francis

 

seems tactics and game plans were quite important to old big ‘ead after all

 

players (not sticking to the tactics) lose you games

 

assuming we’re taking anything that cloughie said literally in the first place

 

 

 

 

 

[Maiden Gorgie]

His commitment to HMFC is without question. Sadly he cant take us to where we want to be. Out for me

[Watt-Zeefuik]

11 hours ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

It’s not guff and there’s only one man making things more complicated than they need to be. 

 

It's absolutely ****ing guff. The tell is that it's all self-contradictory. He tinkers too much and he's stubborn. We need to settle on a style and we need to abandon the back 3. We play too defensive but we're too easy to cut apart.

 

The problem at Aberdeen wasn't tactics. It was shite performances by players all over the park. That's Robbie's problem to fix, but it's as much about getting the players to play for the jersey the way they did earlier in the season rather than how we've looked over the past two months. If he can't fix it and the players are still pulling out of tackles and letting the opposition win the 50-50s and losing their men on defence, he deserves the sack, and maybe he needs to switch to a back 4 to shake the players out of their stupor. But the backseat driving by people who don't understand the tactics isn't useful or even remotely accurate.

[indianajones]

He has zero clue. Abysmal, turgid, boring and slow play is encouraged from what is a very good squad that should be scooshing third place. 

 

He won't leave himself so will need to be sacked. Unfortunately that won't happen from this board. Safest gig in the UK. 

[Mr Sifter]

GET HIM TO **** 😡😡😡😡

[The Tackle]

Bye “Bob”

[J80MBO]

Point of this thread...win or lose you want him out. Get it.

 

Can we not assume folk want him out until we hear differently?

[Gordon Ramsay]

Get him to **** 

[ri Alban]

Probably time for a change. Gutted but this is fecking dreadful.

[kingantti1874]

The malaise is deep. Months off shitty tactics and they aren’t playing for him anymore it’s that simple

[Tiger]

Time is up has to go and now

[Mr Sifter]

Just now, J80MBO said:

Point of this thread...win or lose you want him out. Get it.

 

Can we not assume folk want him out until we hear differently?

Are you saying differently like? 
 

He’s done. There’s always been a part of our support that wanted him out, but more and more like me have now turned. He’s got support from only a minority of our fan base now, it’s not just the “Phoodle Out” brigade any more. The tide has turned. And if those thoughts can’t be expressed on a Hearts internet forum, where can they be?

[Mr Sifter]

Just now, kingantti1874 said:

The malaise is deep. Months off shitty tactics and they aren’t playing for him anymore it’s that simple

Said the same at half time at Pitoddrie. The squad have given up on him, clear as day. 

[Buster HMFC]

He's impossible to defend  

[RS86]

I held off voting previously, but knew which way I was swaying. Back to back games against Celtic and then a rebounding Aberdeen are tough fixtures. It was more the recent performances than results that were concerning me. Today has cemented my view.

[ethan14]

3 minutes ago, Tiger said:

Time is up has to go and now

100 percent, not even a bit fight

[Gordon_1874]

37 mins against an already poor side with 10 men, I can only hope the club do the right thing tonight.

[David McCaig]

He has to go and go now 

[ri Alban]

Change my vote to go.

[Hansel]

Get him gone

[Fitzroy Pointon]

Cheerio 

[Cruyff]

Get in the sea. 

[feej]

That was Robbie's chance to show us he's got what it takes and get things sorted. However again we see another unacceptable performance devoid of organisation, determination and fight.

Managerial teams needs replaced.

[Luckies1874]

On 31/03/2023 at 10:01, RustyRightPeg said:

I must say, the rumours about Robbie going to turkey to get his hair sorted are an absolute load of bullshit. 

 

I wish he'd **** off to Turkey for good.

[Hansel]

New poll needed