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It’s absolutely brilliant. Would we have got that one against Celtic last week?  No chance? Would that Ross County goal have stood today - absolutely.

 

finally there is no excuse for referees to make “honest mistakes”

 

so thankfully. It’s not going in the bin - ever. And thank **** for that 

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Don’t get how any sane person can not want it in Scottish football.

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3 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Only complaint so far is it's a bit slow to get a decision. 

Agree Dave, seems like it takes forever even for a straightforward offside decision.

Draw the line in hey presto decision - but it seems not

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I like it.

 

Adds a drama to the game as well.

 

Celebrate- then not, celebrate, then celebrate again.

Really does make a them game more of an emotional rollercoaster.

 

Once thy sort out the handball malarky and get the timings Better it will be good. That is not VAR tho, that is the handball rule and humans being slow and shite.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, brux said:

Good chance we wouldn't have won today without it.

Don’t think VAR actually changed any on field decisions? 

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2 minutes ago, Hearts of Vladland said:

Folk do realise the Lino gave the offside at the County disallowed goal right?

And ours, I believe.

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It's correcting things that so far look the right things to be corrected. Taking too long to do that though, and it looks like there may be a trend with some referees to overly rely on VAR for big calls instead of making them first.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Only complaint so far is it's a bit slow to get a decision. 

 

That penalty decision (the 1st one) at Tynie the other night almost did for me.

 

Seriously, I almost had to exit.

 

OK, the correct decision was arrived at, but defo not good for anyone's health.

 

As for the celebrate, oh hold on - cannae celebrate, tension, and then either a belated 2nd celebration or disappointment?

 

I suppose it's what we're in for from now on.

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Lost count of the number of times Celtic got dubious decisions against us & other teams over the years. It certainly feels that way anyway. Anything that challenges an ignorant refs decisions on the park is fine by me. We will lose out occasionally too, but the dodgy calls seen at Ibrox & Parkhead influenced by the home crowds will be a thing of the past............ hopefully!! 

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Just becasue we've had a few beneficial decisions so far  is irrelevant, surely ?

 

The reason the decisions take so long is the nit-picking re-runs and debate in the VAR room.  Like the goal we had disallowed today for "offside".  The penalty Celtic got today was ridiculous, despite the ball having hit the Livi boy's hand at point-blank range.   On another day, the match ref might have given it and VAR might have overruled it. 

 

Add in the fact that the VAR "evidence" for their decision  doesn't  get shown to the crowd - its just a hi-tech version of good old refereeing controversy.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said:

Lost count of the number of times Celtic got dubious decisions against us & other teams over the years. It certainly feels that way anyway. Anything that challenges an ignorant refs decisions on the park is fine by me. We will lose out occasionally too, but the dodgy calls seen at Ibrox & Parkhead influenced by the home crowds will be a thing of the past............ hopefully!! 

That hand ball rangers got yesterday??

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10 minutes ago, Smoked-Glass said:

That hand ball rangers got yesterday??

Aye right enough & Celtic's pen looked a bit dodgy too. We can only hope that VAR makes it a bit more difficult for them to favour either of the OF. 

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39 minutes ago, Chevy Chase said:

County players shoulder and arm

played Shankland onside for our 3rd

I thought from Hearts tv and the VAR check Shanklands knee was in front.

 

 

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The technology is fine.

The problem is still the human element.

VAR misses stuff that it should be picking up on.
And the guys manning the video room often get things wrong.

Some VAR decisions in England are laughable.

 

The system is only as good as the people operating it and most of them are the same biased, corrupt and incompetent tits that run up and down the touchline.

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If Refs could be trusted it wouldn't be needed.

 

Sadly, I think they're now shit scared to make a decision at all now. 

 

I just want calls to be correct 100% of the time. There will be ups and downs to it. 

 

I also think FIFA have got needlessly pernickety over the offside rule. Just make it clear daylight between the attacker and last defender. We want to see goals, this gives the momentum to the attacker. Shanklands 2nd being offside just feels very unnecessary. Like, if you need a camera to pinpoint how he was offside by 1mm, then I don't think much if any competitive advantage was gained...  Shit like that ruins the spectacle for me. Its overly technical. 

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Forget VAR. 

 

Someone needs to explain to me bow Celtic’s second goal today is not offside. 
 

An utterly ridiculous decision and absolutely nothing to do with VAR. 

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The OF are raging about it, it's killed Boyle's game, and has done us favors repeatedly.

 

Of course it doesn't get everything right but it decreases the error percentage. They need to speed it up but that will come with time.

 

Such a part of every US sport at this point that it's hard for me to imagine what's taken football so long, but I fully understand those not liking the disruption it causes.

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Hibs had a penalty disallowed last week because of an offside, we had a goal against disallowed today for an offside, Celtic had a goal chopped last week for a foul in the cross, we were awarded a stone-waller last week that we weren’t getting.   Boyle has been booked for diving and Porteous box dives ignored.

 

All these would have been allowed to run pre-VAR.   Shocking.

 

I like it and I’m glad it’s here to stay.

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Now VAR is close to home it just shows up how many of us neither understand the laws of the game nor how officials are asked to interpret them.

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1 hour ago, kila said:

It's correcting things that so far look the right things to be corrected. Taking too long to do that though, and it looks like there may be a trend with some referees to overly rely on VAR for big calls instead of making them first.

 

 

Early days but hopefully the time taken over decisions will take less time as the officials get used to it.

It's never going to be 100% but I think the early signs are good.

Plus, the OF seem to hate it so I'm all in.

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I'm still on the fence, every team will benefit, but every team will have their moment like Spurs midweek.

Rules need to change to help the situation.

Plenty wrong calls will still be made.

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12 minutes ago, hearts00 said:

Forget VAR. 

 

Someone needs to explain to me bow Celtic’s second goal today is not offside. 
 

An utterly ridiculous decision and absolutely nothing to do with VAR. 

 

That was a poor decision.  The Livingston player clears the ball to prevent it reaching an offside kyogo. His clearance falls to celtic who score. 

Surely it should have been chalked off. 

 

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1 hour ago, Chevy Chase said:

County players shoulder and arm

played Shankland onside for our 3rd

 

Shankland's knee put him offside. Arms don't count, only parts of the body you can play the ball with. 

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1 hour ago, Chevy Chase said:

County players shoulder and arm

played Shankland onside for our 3rd

 

I thought it was only parts of the body that you can score a goal with that count.

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4 minutes ago, William H. Bonney said:

 

That was a poor decision.  The Livingston player clears the ball to prevent it reaching an offside kyogo. His clearance falls to celtic who score. 

Surely it should have been chalked off. 

 

 

That's what I thought too, how on earth was Kyogo not interfering with play there. 

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1 hour ago, Hearts of Vladland said:

Folk do realise the Lino gave the offside at the County disallowed goal right?

Correct. He did!  VAR just confirmed it. 

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