pointon Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Priority signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Agree. If we splash out now he’ll bang them in then make us a fortune when we sell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, pointon said: Priority signing Really hope so ! would be statement of intent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Have to hope Everton see him getting European football as an advantage rather than going to the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, pointon said: Priority signing Got to think the club will do everything they can to try and work out a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I really like him. If we can put a deal together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, PaddysBar said: Agree. If we splash out now he’ll bang them in then make us a fortune when we sell him. There is zero chance of us signing him on a permanent deal. Another year on loan would be fantastic business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBones Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Doubt there's much chance of us getting him if they go down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, steve123 said: Have to hope Everton see him getting European football as an advantage rather than going to the Championship. Hopefully Everton dont get relegated. They might see him as an option in the championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Everton player clean through on goal in first half and made a balls of it. Simms would have buried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, William H. Bonney said: Hopefully Everton dont get relegated. They might see him as an option in the championship Yea never thought of that, I was thinking more of a Championship team wanting to loan him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Sooperstar said: There is zero chance of us signing him on a permanent deal. Another year on loan would be fantastic business. We should at least ask the question. My Everton supporting pal was gobsmacked we signed Beni, he was highly rated, you never know. I agree that another year on loan is most likely though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, steve123 said: Have to hope Everton see him getting European football as an advantage rather than going to the Championship. Not keen on another loan, I'd really like us to push the boat out and try get him permanently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Alan_R said: Not keen on another loan, I'd really like us to push the boat out and try get him permanently Thats dream scenario but goodness knows his transfer value ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morocco Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Hope he brings his shooting boots to the final. Great goal again today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 This lad might be worth breaking our record signing for. We would get it back no bother and more in a few years. A good investment for one of our benefactors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Alan_R said: Not keen on another loan, I'd really like us to push the boat out and try get him permanently Non starter. We couldn’t even come close to affording the wages and we’d be stupid to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Splash the cash Robbie if there is any chance of getting the big man on a permanent deal (another year on loan would also be great). Offer Everton first refusal if any bids are made in the future, he brings so much to this Hearts team. His running in behind and off the ball creates so much space for others around him and with McKay to play that killer pass Simms will be worth his weight in gold if we could pull of a deal. The downside is if he is surplus to requirements at Everton then his form since joining us will no doubt be on the radar of the top level championship clubs in England. Possibly even the two arse cheeks as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Keep everything crossed, Everton stay up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 9 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: There is zero chance of us signing him on a permanent deal. Another year on loan would be fantastic business. Spot on. It’s Everton’s call, not ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: There is zero chance of us signing him on a permanent deal. Another year on loan would be fantastic business. Unfortunately, you're bang on. We should ask Everton about signing him but, I would be amazed if we got anything more than another loan season. Edited April 24 by Bindy Badgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canscot Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Rocky jamboa said: This lad might be worth breaking our record signing for. We would get it back no bother and more in a few years. A good investment for one of our benefactors! Or we could break our record transfer for him and three games into next season he blows out a knee😎 I think a loan would be more prudent financially in the short term. He is definitely a player and should only go from strength to strength as he gains experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 His wages will be mental. No chance of a permanent signing. If we can get another loan that would be incredible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Another loan coupled with a Cup Final winning goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Get a loan deal agreed for next season as a priority and spend the next 12 months harassing Everton in every which way to do a permanent deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Unfortunately I think we will struggle to get him back for next season. Especially he performs in the SC final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 If you don't ask you don't get. So get asking Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Zico said: Spot on. It’s Everton’s call, not ours. Everton are due us a favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Canscot said: Or we could break our record transfer for him and three games into next season he blows out a knee😎 I think a loan would be more prudent financially in the short term. He is definitely a player and should only go from strength to strength as he gains experience. So we should never break our record transfer fee in case the player gets injured? I don't think we have a chance of signing him but your logic is weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 19 minutes ago, PaddysBar said: Agree. If we splash out now he’ll bang them in then make us a fortune when we sell him. He's already made me splash out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Even If we did get him on a loan, it's highly likely Everton would not make a final decision until they know their incoming transfers etc during the window. So a decision may well have to wait until later in the summer. If Everton get relegated, he has much more chance of being regularly involved with the first team, if not a starter. We have key european games at the start of the season, I would love to have him here then. I would say no better than 25/75 odds IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixHearts Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) He'd be more than worth breaking our record transfer fee on this form. Even when he's not scoring he's generally causing problems for defenders and knows how to hold the ball up. Feel like he's really starting to get to grips with our game. A transfer fee wouldn't even be the issue though. As others have stated already, the stumbling block would be his wages. I don't know if the club have changed the way we do things now with wage/bonus splits. Surely if he took a wage cut but had several incentives written into his contract it could be worked out? Edit: Ps. if wages are such an issue when signing players from clubs like Everton, how come we snagged Beni? What's the difference there? Simms closer to the senior team thus wages reflect that? Edited April 24 by PhoenixHearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypoonJambo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 17 minutes ago, MrBones said: Doubt there's much chance of us getting him if they go down Aye cause whoever takes Lampards place is going to stake their return to EPL on a young CF that's done well in Scotland. No way. Everton will spend gazillions on a foreign striker to get straight back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Everton are due us a favour. How’s that TRM? Genuinely interested, not moving to Hamilton 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 16 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: Everton player clean through on goal in first half and made a balls of it. Simms would have buried it. Clean through on goal? He had no chance of scoring from there unless popadom hands was in goals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_mck Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) His value is over a quarter of a million on Transfermarkt but that was before start of loan spell. With his impact Everton, if they stay up, would probably be asking for at least three or four times that. But agree its wages that might be the stumbling block. Edited April 24 by steven_mck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, TheBigO said: He's already made me splash out 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, jamboozy said: How’s that TRM? Genuinely interested, not moving to Hamilton 😜 We sold Alec Young to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canscot Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, db211833 said: So we should never break our record transfer fee in case the player gets injured? I don't think we have a chance of signing him but your logic is weird Should have said tongue planted firmly in cheek. I just think the price will be too high. Maybe if we get him on loan and we consolidate our grip on third along with a money spinning run in Europe, it might be time to splash some cash. I am not a fan of spending cash that we don’t have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Beni was apparently on 8 grand a week at Everton. Wouldn't imagine simms is much more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 If Everton have no plans to play him, then I'd expect they'd be very happy for him to play regularly at Hearts, gaining experience and exposure. His market value to them is enhanced by his performances at Hearts. I'd be surprised if they pull him only to loan him somewhere else when it is working well for all parties at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Wouldnt be too upset if we could work out an extension or even a signing for this lad. Brilliant to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 One thing going in our favour is Scottish league is seen as complete garbage. Might underestimate how much he is improving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtartan74 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Would definitely be trying to get him back if not permanently then on loan, I wonder though how much he would cost 🤷🏻♂️ I would be pushing the boat out to get him, would easily spend £500k if that was anywhere near the asking price, a bit more if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, jamtartan74 said: Would definitely be trying to get him back if not permanently then on loan, I wonder though how much he would cost 🤷🏻♂️ I would be pushing the boat out to get him, would easily spend £500k if that was anywhere near the asking price, a bit more if required. Thats the question that is nothing in England, they could want millions for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Canscot said: Should have said tongue planted firmly in cheek. I just think the price will be too high. Maybe if we get him on loan and we consolidate our grip on third along with a money spinning run in Europe, it might be time to splash some cash. I am not a fan of spending cash that we don’t have. 👍agreed, would take over a million, probably a lot more when you see how much young relatively unproven English players go for. We are not a club who should be spending a million on one player......yet 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 19 minutes ago, Canscot said: Or we could break our record transfer for him and three games into next season he blows out a knee😎 I think a loan would be more prudent financially in the short term. He is definitely a player and should only go from strength to strength as he gains experience. You'd never leave the house with that risk averse attitude! 😁 I feel it would make sense to try and sign permanently if we could. Better us to develop a player then for us to benefit from a bigger transfer fee in future, as opposed to Everton benefitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 In a perfect world Everton sign Hickey and in return for our sell on fee we get Simms on a 3 year deal for fk all. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hood09 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Should be first ever FOH signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 He's a player. Everton would be mental not to have another proper look. He's their player and they obviously will. Hearts are an increasingly attractive proposition for big English sides to send their players to develop. Does that fit with our model? I'd say yes on this example. Maybe the trick is finding the next Ellis Simms? Go Savage. So hope he stays, but can't see how the practicalities could be negotiable in a permanent contract tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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