Spellczech Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 33 minutes ago, Taffin said: It's so hard to follow at times, very difficult for anyone and near impossible for people new to it. Certain referees help when you can hear their decisions - no so good in a noisy pub though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Maroon Sailor said: It wasn't pretty but will take a win every time. How many times have Scotland been the better team but not managed to win ? Kind of believe in this squad to deliver now - but we've been there before ! I agree. Nice to do it the ugly way for once! Think Ireland may win or France if they play like France 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 16 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said: I'm seeing on Twitter that Brian Moore has just covered his last Calcutta Cup match, sadly. Decent bloke and bluntly honest. That’s a great tweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: I was indeed. But I do hope he is commentating in the future. He’ll be commenting on the women’s internationals from now on apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tazio said: He’ll be commenting on the women’s internationals from now on apparently. I heard that. Hopefully ITV or whomever employ him. Is that balloon Inverdale still on the telly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roxy Hearts Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: About right I'd say. I'm not a betting man though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, Roxy Hearts said: About right I'd say. I'm not a betting man though. Let’s see what france do today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Taffin said: It's so hard to follow at times, very difficult for anyone and near impossible for people new to it. I think it was a really good feature to have Nigel Owen yesterday commenting on decisions. He explained a couple of times how there were cases for decisions going either way. It is a problem rugby has. Like football now not helped by players manipulating for an advantage. Yesterday the late scrums were classic. Nearly always the wheeled scrum a penalty but actually it's not that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: I think it was a really good feature to have Nigel Owen yesterday commenting on decisions. He explained a couple of times how there were cases for decisions going either way. It is a problem rugby has. Like football now not helped by players manipulating for an advantage. Yesterday the late scrums were classic. Nearly always the wheeled scrum a penalty but actually it's not that simple. I wouldn't mind referees managing the scrums like that final set of scrums yesterday, i.e. only calling a penalty if there is a blatant transgression. Ok, we might have a few resets for each scrum, but I'd rather have that than a dodgy penalty decision probably "encouraged" by opposition shenanigans in the scrum anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 Brilliant from Italy Try might be ruled out though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Brilliant try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 Try given France 3-5 Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, redjambo said: I wouldn't mind referees managing the scrums like that final set of scrums yesterday, i.e. only calling a penalty if there is a blatant transgression. Ok, we might have a few resets for each scrum, but I'd rather have that than a dodgy penalty decision probably "encouraged" by opposition shenanigans in the scrum anyway. I think part of the thinking it is play continues quickly. A good example is giving free kicks at scrums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 Good kick 18 mins France 3-7 Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Suspect he was on the line there but the best camera shots couldn't show it. A better shot might have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, Mikey1874 said: I think part of the thinking it is play continues quickly. A good example is giving free kicks at scrums. Yup, appreciated, but scrum-related decisions can be very marginal and odd at times. I personally would rather that they were done properly (only awarding penalties for significant transgressions), or got rid of altogether. I do admit that I am a bit out on a limb with this one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, redjambo said: Yup, appreciated, but scrum-related decisions can be very marginal and odd at times. I personally would rather that they were done properly (only awarding penalties for significant transgressions), or got rid of altogether. I do admit that I am a bit out on a limb with this one though. There might be more of that now after the England scrums. The refs will be wanting to be consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: There might be more of that now after the England scrums. The refs will be wanting to be consistent. It was a wee bit ironic that O'Keeffe almost wanted to be seen to be "doing it right" (my words) and in a fair manner with his decisions to reset at the end, rather than overly influencing the game with a marginal decision, when that way of doing things should in fact pertain to the entire game. It almost begged the question if that he was "doing it right" at that point, what was he, and of course every other referee ever, doing for scrum-related decisions for the rest of the game? It was very refreshing to see, and I hope that it does influence policy in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Victorian said: Suspect he was on the line there but the best camera shots couldn't show it. A better shot might have. Commentaors saying on-field decison was try and no conclusive TV pic it wasn't legal. I thought the view from behind was good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, NANOJAMBO said: Commentaors saying on-field decison was try and no conclusive TV pic it wasn't legal. I thought the view from behind was good enough. Literally an inch in it either way. I reckon he must have touched the line before it was grounded. But the ref is right to call it a try on-field. Italy possibly benefitted from the camera shot being less than ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Noticed the French have pinched the “no band in the final verse” national anthem routine from Murrayfield. Fair enough though, I’m no huge fan of Flower Of Scotland but that can be proper hairs on the back of the neck when it’s being belted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 With those shirts I expect France to escape to victory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, redjambo said: It was a wee bit ironic that O'Keeffe almost wanted to be seen to be "doing it right" (my words) and in a fair manner with his decisions to reset at the end, rather than overly influencing the game with a marginal decision, when that way of doing things should in fact pertain to the entire game. It almost begged the question if that he was "doing it right" at that point, what was he, and of course every other referee ever, doing for scrum-related decisions for the rest of the game? It was very refreshing to see, and I hope that it does influence policy in some way. The World Cup Scotland v Australia is influential. Scotland being robbed that day had quite an effect on refereeing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2015/oct/19/craig-joubert-mistake-penalty-australia-scotland-world-cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 Try France right on Half Time Right call to kick for touch rather than the easy 3 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 HT France 18-10 Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: The World Cup Scotland v Australia is influential. Scotland being robbed that day had quite an effect on refereeing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2015/oct/19/craig-joubert-mistake-penalty-australia-scotland-world-cup Thanks for the memories. Enjoy the Ibrox game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: FS usual suspects destroying another thread with the same pish Give it a rest - beyond tedious for the majority who just want to talk about the sport Correct the nationalist cult ruin every thread these days then insult non believers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 5 hours ago, redjambo said: I think you're misdirecting your ire, Maroon Sailor. Roxy didn't put this particular ball into the scrum. Correct he didn’t introduce the Sturgeon or anti Tory guff first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 Predictable win for France France 37-10 Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 hours ago, redjambo said: I wouldn't mind referees managing the scrums like that final set of scrums yesterday, i.e. only calling a penalty if there is a blatant transgression. Ok, we might have a few resets for each scrum, but I'd rather have that than a dodgy penalty decision probably "encouraged" by opposition shenanigans in the scrum anyway. While often many refs are ex players I believe few are/were forwards so aren’t always familiar with the black arts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: Correct he didn’t introduce the Sturgeon or anti Tory guff first Whether you like her or not, Sturgeon is our First Minister. Posting a photo of her swigging from the Calcutta Cup, albeit an old photo, after a win over England is only "political" if you have a very unhealthy approach to life. Pavlov's dogs would no doubt bow in admiration to the automatic fervour of your anti-nationalist responses on here, even to the extent of actually creating nationalist issues where they don't exist just so that you can excitedly whack out one of your drooling retorts. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, Hesh said: While often many refs are ex players I believe few are/were forwards so aren’t always familiar with the black arts Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, redjambo said: Whether you like her or not, Sturgeon is our First Minister. Posting a photo of her swigging from the Calcutta Cup, albeit an old photo, after a win over England is only "political" if you have a very unhealthy approach to life. Pavlov's dogs would no doubt bow in admiration to the automatic fervour of your anti-nationalist responses on here, even to the extent of actually creating nationalist issues where they don't exist just so that you can excitedly whack out one of your drooling retorts. 🙄 Funnily enough, I lifted the pic of Twitter and some of the repsonses from the anti-nats was as predictable as what's happened on here. Anyways, back to rugby : the analysis on Rugby Special from John Barclay was very interesting. Some fascinating replays of just what makes Finn Russell such a great player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 47 minutes ago, redjambo said: Whether you like her or not, Sturgeon is our First Minister. Posting a photo of her swigging from the Calcutta Cup, albeit an old photo, after a win over England is only "political" if you have a very unhealthy approach to life. Pavlov's dogs would no doubt bow in admiration to the automatic fervour of your anti-nationalist responses on here, even to the extent of actually creating nationalist issues where they don't exist just so that you can excitedly whack out one of your drooling retorts. 🙄 Your opinion of course - which counts very little to me and also failed to mention the anti Tory post as well as wading in with the usual insults - the nationalist go to . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Your opinion of course - which counts very little to me and also failed to mention the anti Tory post as well as wading in with the usual insults - the nationalist go to . There's plenty other threads for this pish. Any chance you can leave this one to be about Rugby? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, Taffin said: There's plenty other threads for this pish. Any chance you can leave this one to be about Rugby? Cheers. Don’t be silly 😀 every single thread is fair game to the handful of extremists on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tazio said: Don’t be silly 😀 every single thread is fair game to the handful of extremists on both sides. Isn't the shed for politics,with occasional distraction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hesh said: Isn't the shed for politics,with occasional distraction? If that's the case then I'm out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 38 minutes ago, Taffin said: There's plenty other threads for this pish. Any chance you can leave this one to be about Rugby? Cheers. Address this to those who took the thread off course in the first place . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 10 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said: True but then they were absolutely gash for years on end. And when I say years, I mean decades. WIth the advent of indy I think a lot felt the atmosphere was a bit too jingoistic & hostile and Murrayfield's popularity dipped . Having said that I know loads of guys who went year after year and have only stopped due to old age but it's still a popular trip amomngst the rugby types in my locale. Too jingoistic and hostile? You having a laugh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, The White Cockade said: Too jingoistic and hostile? You having a laugh? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: No. How many internationals have you been to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 10 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said: True but then they were absolutely gash for years on end. And when I say years, I mean decades. WIth the advent of indy I think a lot felt the atmosphere was a bit too jingoistic & hostile and Murrayfield's popularity dipped . Having said that I know loads of guys who went year after year and have only stopped due to old age but it's still a popular trip amomngst the rugby types in my locale. We for years have got tickets for friends at a club down south, they’ve always taken as many as we could supply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Scotland emulating South Africa with the front row rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Big game for us in Cardiff Chance to show if we have really turned the corner and are real challengers Our away record suggests it could go either way and they will come out fighting Problem with being a Scotland supporter is the same one as being a Hearts fan Our worst results usually happen when we are doing well and confident of a good result Hoping for a win but think it will be very close and can’t predict a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Scotland emulating South Africa with the front row rotation. Scotland emulating South Africa by having lots of South Africans in their front row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 We should be able to beat this Welsh pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Why do they announce the team two days before the play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 C'mon Scotland, you can do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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