When your Lottery win gets you jailed

[NANOJAMBO]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-59654724

 

Two men who bought a National Lottery scratch card using stolen debit card details and then tried to claim the £4m jackpot they revealed have been jailed.

Jon Watson, of Bolton, and Mark Goodram went to London to beg in 2019 and bought the winning card in Clapham.

They were found out when claiming the prize, as they revealed they did not have a bank account, despite using a debit card to buy the item.

Admitting fraud at Bolton Crown Court, they were both jailed for 18 months

 

Denise Fitzpatrick, prosecuting, said the pair, who were both on licence following previous prison sentences, had the details of a debit card belonging to a man they did not know.

She said Goodram had the card number and expiry date written on his hand and used them to buy £90 of shopping at a Londis store on Clapham High Street and £71 of goods, including five scratch cards, at a Waitrose store on Clapham Common.

The court was told one card had a £10 prize, which was claimed in the Londis store, while another had the jackpot prize.

 

Watson telephoned the National Lottery line to tell them his friend had won, Ms Fitzpatrick said, before Goodram then told the operator he would be sharing the prize with his friend.

He was informed the payment would be made by bank transfer.

"Mark Goodram explained he did not have a bank account, [but] the purchase of the winning scratch card had been made by debit card from a bank account... which immediately raised suspicions," she said.

[IronJambo]

I remember this pair of jakeballs crying in the papers wanting their money. Not a brain between them. If I remember rightly they spent a few grand on celebrations that they didn't have. 

 

They don't realise how lightly they got off as there's no way they'd still be alive if they'd been given £4m.

[Dazo]

Who the **** steals a bank card then buys a lottery ticket ? 😂

 

I’d let them out for the comedy value. 

[Kenbo]

So if it was bought on someone else's debit card, does that mean they get the winnings? 

[Vlad Magic]

4 minutes ago, Kenbo said:

So if it was bought on someone else's debit card, does that mean they get the winnings? 

Good question!!

 

I would have thought the winning ticket was their property and therefore the winnings belong to them?

[JudyJudyJudy]

yes who actually got the money? 

[Malinga the Swinga]

No one got money as fraudulent transaction was used to pay for it.

[iantjambo]

What a pair of twats

 

[iantjambo]

1 hour ago, Kenbo said:

So if it was bought on someone else's debit card, does that mean they get the winnings? 

Presumably, the card holder would’ve reported the card as being used fraudulently. They won’t have been allowed to keep any goods bought as they would’ve been refunded any cash that was used fraudulently.

[milky_26]

5 minutes ago, iantjambo said:

Presumably, the card holder would’ve reported the card as being used fraudulently. They won’t have been allowed to keep any goods bought as they would’ve been refunded any cash that was used fraudulently.

I wonder if the card company/ bank would then have a claim as they would in the end have paid for it.

 

 

 

 

I might not be completely serious with the above comment but I would not put it past a bank to try that

[Kenbo]

2 hours ago, iantjambo said:

Presumably, the card holder would’ve reported the card as being used fraudulently. They won’t have been allowed to keep any goods bought as they would’ve been refunded any cash that was used fraudulently.

gutted! 

[gjcc]

The real person robbed was the next person buying the same ticket. 

[Fitzroy Pointon]

How do you buy £161 of goods in a shop with the details of a card written on your hand? 

[Boof]

6 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said:

How do you buy £161 of goods in a shop with the details of a card written on your hand? 

 

Would home delivery work?

Can you buy scratchcards thusly?

[1953]

I find myself wondering if say, they had taken some cashback along with their shopping and then bought the scratchcard with cash, would they have got away with it. I guess they would have had to get a bank account at some point as the lottery company were never going to give them £4m in a suitcase.

[Morgan]

They weren't two of the three wise men then?

 

[HeartsandonlyHearts]

8 hours ago, Vlad Magic said:

Good question!!

 

I would have thought the winning ticket was their property and therefore the winnings belong to them?

Unless the card owner had the purchase cancelled by the bank on a fraudulent claim. May mean the bank just scored 4 million. That would suck.

[1971fozzy]

Hilarious. Fair made my day reading this 🤣🤣 

Nae luck 

[Fitzroy Pointon]

3 hours ago, Boof said:

 

Would home delivery work?

Can you buy scratchcards thusly?

 

You can certainly buy scratch cards in an online shopping so you have to assume that they have quite a decent phone with data on it and did a click and collect

[dobmisterdobster]

4 hours ago, 1953 said:

I find myself wondering if say, they had taken some cashback along with their shopping and then bought the scratchcard with cash, would they have got away with it. I guess they would have had to get a bank account at some point as the lottery company were never going to give them £4m in a suitcase.

 

That's what I was thinking. Would they have grounds to seize the winnings if the ticket was bought with cash?

[davemclaren]

51 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

 

That's what I was thinking. Would they have grounds to seize the winnings if the ticket was bought with cash?

Proceeds of crime I imagine.