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Forever Hearts
48 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

I agree - when you can get all semi finalists from the same country it loses it's appeal. As for that borefest with Liverpool and Spurs the other year - brutal.

 

You can be champions of Europe even if you are not champions of the country you play in like Chelsea beating English League champions Man City.

 

Farcical

It is farcical. Liverpool finished in 4th place, thirty points behind the winners Arsenal in 2004. They got a place in the Champions League for that wonderful achievement and ended up winning it.🙄

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Maroon Sailor
Just now, Forever Hearts said:

It is farcical. Liverpool finished in 4th place, thirty points behind the winners Arsenal in 2004. They got a place in the Champions League for that wonderful achievement and ended up winning it.🙄

 

🤣🤣

 

It's a fecking joke !

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Although the Newcastle takeover is certainly not without noise, it is a change that the owners of the richest clubs are a lot quieter. Although there is a bit noise from Spain it's not like the era of Silvio Berlusconi and Bernard Tapie who has just died. 

 

Soft power spoken quietly. 

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Mon the Spurs

 

waiting on them for my modest bet

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Rudi5kaceldream1ng
2 hours ago, Cade said:

Is that really an upgrade over Steve Bruce???

 

Diddy club.

No. Wrong appointment and shows the lack of football knowledge from Staveley and that consortium. 

 

They'll get it right eventually they're too rich not to but this is a mis-step. 

 

Howe has multiple relegations under his belt, it doesn't bode well, but it's football so you never know. I think celtic dodged a bullet though.

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1 minute ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said:

No. Wrong appointment and shows the lack of football knowledge from Staveley and that consortium. 

 

They'll get it right eventually they're too rich not to but this is a mis-step. 

 

Howe has multiple relegations under his belt, it doesn't bode well, but it's football so you never know. I think celtic dodged a bullet though.

Disagree here, he’s a great manager. Wheels fell off a bit the last 18 months to be fair but the amount of time he was at Bournemouth - with the way inflation went in football with his new signings - was it really a surprise? New challenge for him, he’s an intelligent guy who lives and breathes the game. Will keep them up easy and push on next season IMO. 

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1 minute ago, InternationalJambo said:

Disagree here, he’s a great manager. Wheels fell off a bit the last 18 months to be fair but the amount of time he was at Bournemouth - with the way inflation went in football with his new signings - was it really a surprise? New challenge for him, he’s an intelligent guy who lives and breathes the game. Will keep them up easy and push on next season IMO. 

Let's see howe it goes. 

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Maroon Sailor
2 hours ago, Cade said:

Is that really an upgrade over Steve Bruce???

 

Diddy club.

 

McGlynn would be an upgrade over that kebab eating dinosaur

 

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Maroon Sailor
3 minutes ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said:

Let's see howe it goes. 

 

Howe-ay the lads

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fast_blood
13 minutes ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said:

No. Wrong appointment and shows the lack of football knowledge from Staveley and that consortium. 

 

They'll get it right eventually they're too rich not to but this is a mis-step. 

 

Howe has multiple relegations under his belt, it doesn't bode well, but it's football so you never know. I think celtic dodged a bullet though.

 

Has he not only been relegated as a manager once? 

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Said earlier in the thread that Eddie Howe isn't an appointment you make when battling relegation. His tippy tappy nonsense and no plan b is what got Bournemouth relegated plus some of his signings were honking, how much did he pay for Jordan Ibe? 

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Malinga the Swinga

He'll be sacked at end of season, regardless of whether they stay up or not. If they stay up, they'll go for some big name from abroad. If they go down, they'll go for more experienced name from UK.

Either way, Howe will end up a wealthier man than he is now.

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Maroon Sailor
Just now, fast_blood said:

 

Has he not only been relegated as a manager once? 

 

Yep due to Aston Villa getting away with a clear goal against them v Sheffield Utd. The night goal line technology failed

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fast_blood
Just now, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Yep due to Aston Villa getting away with a clear goal against them v Sheffield Utd. The night goal line technology failed

 

Oh aye, I forgot about that happening. 

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Maroon Sailor
3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

The new owners will learn by their mistakes.

 

I think he's a sensible appointment. No point going for a chequebook manager at this stage.

 

The whole football structure needs revamping from top to bottom. 

 

Steady as it goes.

 

What he done with Bournemouth was incredible. They were on the brink of liquidation.

 

 

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On 08/10/2021 at 00:20, Maroon Sailor said:

 

The location of Newcastle has always been a problem for the club.  Even in the 90s during Keegan's reign it was a big thing to get the likes of Cole, Lee, Ferdinand and Warren Barton to move there. I don't think they would have moved if it wasn't for Keegan.

 

It must be a factor. As we all know, footballers these days make huge money. When they're not playing, they want to get out and about and enjoy their free time. Newcastle is great for a lads weekend away. When you're earning millions though, you want to in London or Manchester. Liverpool is a draw because of the stature of the club, which if frankly enormous. 

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29 minutes ago, InternationalJambo said:

Disagree here, he’s a great manager. Wheels fell off a bit the last 18 months to be fair but the amount of time he was at Bournemouth - with the way inflation went in football with his new signings - was it really a surprise? New challenge for him, he’s an intelligent guy who lives and breathes the game. Will keep them up easy and push on next season IMO. 

He's untested at this level but he deserves the chance. He does appear capable and he did well at a club with a very small budget. We'll know soon enough. Newcastle aren't going to suddenly set the world on fire. If he hasn't achieved after a couple of seasons, they'll make a change. Newcastle fans have to be realistic though. It's a long term transition, from struggling to avoid relegation to challenging for honours.

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42 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Yep due to Aston Villa getting away with a clear goal against them v Sheffield Utd. The night goal line technology failed

The game was first game back after covid, so about 8 games still to play afterwards. One game alone doesn't cause relegation unless it's the final game.

 

Who is to say Sheffield United would held onto the result that day. Incident was 42nd minute.

 

Its a moot point.

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Tommy Brown
52 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

What he done with Bournemouth was incredible. They were on the brink of liquidation.

They are owned by Russian oligarch by the way.

I would much more give plaudits to Sean Dyche for keeping Burnley up the last 8 years.

It will be an interesting watch, some coaches don't adapt to bigger ego players, will Howe cope?

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Maroon Sailor
10 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said:

The game was first game back after covid, so about 8 games still to play afterwards. One game alone doesn't cause relegation unless it's the final game.

 

Who is to say Sheffield United would held onto the result that day. Incident was 42nd minute.

 

Its a moot point.

 

Moot enough for you to bump your gums about it though

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Maroon Sailor
2 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said:

They are owned by Russian oligarch by the way.

I would much more give plaudits to Sean Dyche for keeping Burnley up the last 8 years.

It will be an interesting watch, some coaches don't adapt to bigger ego players, will Howe cope?

 

Aye it had nothing to do with Eddie Howe getting them to the Premier League after keeping their football league status.

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Tommy Brown
12 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Moot enough for you to bump your gums about it though

I'm not looking for an argument MS, just discussion. I like your posts. Well not this one obviously.:whistling:

 

I just don't go with teams got relegated because an incident a game. If the incident happened in the last game, then its a valid point. 

 

Another thread has old chestnut of Robbie being responsible for Hibs winning the cup.

It's bollocks.

 

Anyway, truce.

I don't want to banned from another thread:lol:

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The Mighty Thor

Caretaker appointment until whoever it is they really want becomes available. 

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Maroon Sailor
15 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said:

I'm not looking for an argument MS, just discussion. I like your posts. Well not this one obviously.:whistling:

 

I just go with teams got relegated because an incident a game. If the incident happened in the last game, then its a valid point. 

 

Another thread has old chestnut of Robbie being responsible for Hibs winning the cup.

It's bollocks.

 

Anyway, truce.

I don't want to banned from another thread:lol:

 

I think I said on the thread at the time that the disallowed goal for Sheffield Utd could be the difference between Villa staying up and being relegated.

 

The only time goal line technology has failed and it had serious implications as to who stayed up and who went down at the end of the season.

 

Look at that late equaliser from McStay in the first game of the 85/86 season - how crucial did that turn out to be.

 

There are moments in every season that are defining and not just in the last game.

 

I remember Liverpool snatching a win at Villa and I thought then they would go on to win the league.

 

Leicester winning 3-0 at Man City another defining moment in 2016

 

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I don't think an Eddie Howe team has the battling qualities Newcastle are going to require this season.

 

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he is sacked within 3 months.

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Forever Hearts
13 hours ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said:

No. Wrong appointment and shows the lack of football knowledge from Staveley and that consortium. 

 

They'll get it right eventually they're too rich not to but this is a mis-step. 

 

Howe has multiple relegations under his belt, it doesn't bode well, but it's football so you never know. I think celtic dodged a bullet though.

Can you list these multiple relegations? 

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Batistuta87
19 hours ago, Cade said:

Is that really an upgrade over Steve Bruce???

 

Diddy club.

Interesting appointment. An upgrade on Bruce, yes, but not quite the sort of manager they would have been hoping for I'll bet. He'll get some money to spend and will no doubt spend it quite sensibly, and I reckon they'll bring in a couple of cut-price ex-PL players, or guys who haven't really made the cut at Man City / Man Utd etc, or who are doing well at smaller clubs and looking to double their money somewhere else...

 

Coutinho, Van De Beek, Isak, Bale, Zaha, Bissouma, Lerma, etc are the sort of players who I'd be looking at as a starting point. 

 

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16 hours ago, InternationalJambo said:

Disagree here, he’s a great manager. Wheels fell off a bit the last 18 months to be fair but the amount of time he was at Bournemouth - with the way inflation went in football with his new signings - was it really a surprise? New challenge for him, he’s an intelligent guy who lives and breathes the game. Will keep them up easy and push on next season IMO. 

 

Weren't they in the fourth tier when he took over? I think he's a great manager myself

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10 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

Weren't they in the fourth tier when he took over? I think he's a great manager myself

 

I like managers who have served their apprenticeship at a lower level. The fact he got a club like Bournemouth in the EPL speaks volumes for him.

 

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15 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

 

 

I find this guy a tad annoying now.  His impressions are good but his material is absolutely chronic.  If he is going to continue this he needs to get in proper writers.

 

 

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On 16/10/2021 at 10:41, Forever Hearts said:

It is farcical. Liverpool finished in 4th place, thirty points behind the winners Arsenal in 2004. They got a place in the Champions League for that wonderful achievement and ended up winning it.🙄

 

Perhaps the worst example of that, is AC Milan were initially banned from the CL due to Calciopoli scandal in 2006, appealed and were allowed back in, and then won it in 2007.

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Rudi5kaceldream1ng
8 hours ago, Forever Hearts said:

Can you list these multiple relegations? 

My bad. He's only relegated Bournemouth! I've perhaps been a bit harsh on him. However I didn't think he did spectacularly well at Burnley...

 

I think he has his own style of attacking play and is a hard worker but with the money Newcastle now have I imagined they'd be able to afford a manager with a better record in terms of achieving what they need to now which is avoiding relegation.  

 

Let's see how he does then. 

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Forever Hearts
1 hour ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said:

My bad. He's only relegated Bournemouth! I've perhaps been a bit harsh on him. However I didn't think he did spectacularly well at Burnley...

 

I think he has his own style of attacking play and is a hard worker but with the money Newcastle now have I imagined they'd be able to afford a manager with a better record in terms of achieving what they need to now which is avoiding relegation.  

 

Let's see how he does then. 

You missed the bit where he took Bournemouth from the bottom tier to the top tier and kept them there on a far inferior budget to the rest of the league. 

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20 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

 

The funniest thing about that entire bit is "Eddie Howe resigns as Newcastle United manager after watching 1 training session".

 

Chronic with the sound on. 

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1 hour ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said:

My bad. He's only relegated Bournemouth! I've perhaps been a bit harsh on him. However I didn't think he did spectacularly well at Burnley...

 

I think he has his own style of attacking play and is a hard worker but with the money Newcastle now have I imagined they'd be able to afford a manager with a better record in terms of achieving what they need to now which is avoiding relegation.  

 

Let's see how he does then. 


Really depends on where the owners see the club after the turn of the year, Howe maybe isn’t the choice you’d make if you think you will be fighting relegation come the last couple of weeks of the season but could be exactly what they need if they plan to spend big in January and expect to be well clear of the relegation zone come may!

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