JamboBoy Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Just now, john thomas said: Nonsense . The final decision is often left to the player , particularly with Haring's type of injury What is a manager paid to do then? It always has to be his final decision and never any player. No player should be asked to play when needing an injection just to do so. These injections only mask the underlying problem and show a total disregard for a player’s welfare beyond the match he has been asked to play in. Haring is a classic example if one is ever needed of exactly why this should never happen. Quote
DH1986 Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 One of CL’s biggest errors of judgement was not finding a like for like replacement for Haring in January 2019....even someone on loan. I hope he can find that level of form once again.....he was a joy to watch at times. Quote
jambopilms Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Been moaning about this for a long time now. Why do we allow teams this freedom and wait until they put in a cross or shot before trying to stop them? What is wrong with tackling up the park so they don't get near our defense? The defense and keeper should be the easiest jobs in the team if all the mids and strikers did their bit. I can only imagine it's down to slow aging legs, daydreaming and being lazy. There can't be any reasonable tactical reason for it. Quote
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, DH1986 said: One of CL’s biggest errors of judgement was not finding a like for like replacement for Haring in January 2019....even someone on loan. I hope he can find that level of form once again.....he was a joy to watch at times. Yeah I’d definitely put that in the top 50 Levein blunders that cost us. Quote
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Good interview with him in the EEN today Seems positive and particularly reflects on how poor he was against Dundee when he got hooked. He admitted he’s found it tough to break in this season during the spells when the team was winning games, but was feeling better and better after the bounce games. Then he got his daft red and suspended Quote
Ribble Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Jim Panzee said: exactly. cannot understand why Haring hasn't been given the same leeway as Halliday. getting Haring and Soutter back to their best would make a big difference. Huge difference between Halliday being a few weeks off the pace after missing most of pre-season and Haring who was out for 18months, most physio's will say it takes 1.5 times the length of injury for a player to get back to their pre-injury level. Going by that Haring will be out of contract before he's performing at his pre-injury level! Quote
Jim Panzee Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ribble said: Huge difference between Halliday being a few weeks off the pace after missing most of pre-season and Haring who was out for 18months, most physio's will say it takes 1.5 times the length of injury for a player to get back to their pre-injury level. Going by that Haring will be out of contract before he's performing at his pre-injury level! fair point - although wasn't Halliday out of action for 6 months? (obvs not recovering from a potentially career threatening injury). you'd hope that had we been bossing games this season, that RN would've given Haring and some of the you players a few minutes here and there to help with the fitness. Quote
john thomas Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, JamboBoy said: What is a manager paid to do then? It always has to be his final decision and never any player. No player should be asked to play when needing an injection just to do so. These injections only mask the underlying problem and show a total disregard for a player’s welfare beyond the match he has been asked to play in. Haring is a classic example if one is ever needed of exactly why this should never happen. Whether right or wrong that is how it often works , even at the highest level Quote
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: fair point - although wasn't Halliday out of action for 6 months? (obvs not recovering from a potentially career threatening injury). you'd hope that had we been bossing games this season, that RN would've given Haring and some of the you players a few minutes here and there to help with the fitness. Everyone in the squad had been out of action for 6 months Quote
Jim Panzee Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Everyone in the squad had been out of action for 6 months or did he say something like he'd not kicked a ball for 6 months. Quote
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: or did he say something like he'd not kicked a ball for 6 months. He said something along those lines when he joined. But Hearts had only had a few bounce games and LC group games. Then he came on in the 6-2 game against Dundee, scored, and looked in perfectly good condition. Maybe says more about how bad the condition of our players was that he came in and wasn’t far off the pace after 6 months in lockdown. A bang average player but fitness and work rate wise he’s been fine imo. With Haring, As per the post above, physios will tell you it takes sometimes a year or more for a player to get that power back in his legs. What often happens is, clubs don’t have the patience, managers change and the player moves on, then a year or two later he’s back to top form at another club. But the original club spent all that fortune of his rehab but didn’t wait to reap the benefit. You’ve got to be patient with a player coming back and give it time. But let’s hope we’re seeing the first signs of the Haring fight back now. It would be great to see him put on a maestro performance on Friday night, the fans might even forget about the Neilson rage for a few hours if we got to see vintage Peter Haring again. 🤞 Quote
Pilmuir Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Peter Haring back to his best would be a massive boost. We must be patient though, he was out for ages and has had very few games this season. Hopefully he keeps his place for the remaining games. Whoever drops out could hardly complain. Quote
davemclaren Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Didn’t see the match on Saturday but comments sound positive about Haring. If he can get back to near his best he’ll be a very useful player for us again. Quote
mscjambo Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 If the one positive of this season is we get a fitter stronger Peter Haring back next season then that's something. It was hard watching him at points this year struggle but he was our for over a year, so maybe it could take that amount of time to get your sharpness, fitness and confidence back too. Fingers crossed that we do see him get back to somewhere close to where we know he can be Quote
This is My Story Podcast Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: He was also critical of Berra and that all played out during the week and he was bombed out. Very difficult not to connect the dots eh! Maybe wildly wrong but it certainly feels weird. Quote
Pasquale for King Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, This is My Story Podcast said: Very difficult not to connect the dots eh! Maybe wildly wrong but it certainly feels weird. Far too much of a coincidence really. Quote
Locky Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 4 hours ago, JamboBoy said: The decision can never be the player’s to make. The management and specifically Levein nearly ruined his career and indeed may well have done so as he has really struggled since his return. I really hope he makes a full return to where he was for the sake of the club and , of course the player himself. There can be no excuses for what happened by anyone involved. Levein offering to play him in the final was a mistake, but ultimately it was Haring's decision. Of course, the prospect of playing in a cup final was too much to turn down even with his injury, but no way Levein could force him to play. Quote
BigStein Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Good player, a new manager will understand his importance to the team Quote
Pasquale for King Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 17 hours ago, This is My Story Podcast said: Very difficult not to connect the dots eh! Maybe wildly wrong but it certainly feels weird. Just listened to last nights BBC podcast, you were excellent and put your/our points over extremely well 👍🏽👏🏾. Quote
JamboBoy Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 On 06/04/2021 at 14:21, john thomas said: Nonsense . The final decision is often left to the player , particularly with Haring's type of injury It should never be left to a player to decide. That is what a Manager is paid to do in his role. Quote
soonbe110 Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, JamboBoy said: It should never be left to a player to decide. That is what a Manager is paid to do in his role. Not the way it works. Manager will never play a player who says he isn’t fit. Quote
john thomas Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, JamboBoy said: It should never be left to a player to decide. That is what a Manager is paid to do in his role. Not what happens but this has been done to death already Haring looked like his old self on Saturday . Good news Quote
upgotheheads Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 Fingers crossed that this gem of a player is getting back to fitness and form. I think he's still only 27/28 so could have some years left in him. Quote
BigStein Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 Ability and attitude wise he’s one of the few players in the squad who’s proper hearts. Can’t wait to see him under a new manager Quote
pettigrewsstylist Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 Another waste of money. Shame. Wonder what each performance has cost us. Quote
Fultons Right Leg Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 I once saw him in Waitrose down in Comley Bank. Big man didn’t have anything in his basket that wasn’t green! Mostly spinach and Avocados tbh. Quote
Sherbet Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 6 hours ago, JamboBoy said: It should never be left to a player to decide. That is what a Manager is paid to do in his role. Medical staff surely Quote
Jamtastico Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Good performance tonight. Seems to be getting back to his best... Makes us tick and can do it at both ends of the park. What a pass for Henderson's goal! Quote
Fitzroy Pointon Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Bossed the midfield tonight. Okay it's Alloa but it's not like he hasn't looked like a good player in the Premiership. Superb tonight. Quote
Australis Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Fantastic performance tonight. Well done and thank you Peter. Quote
stevie1874 Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Scandalous that Andy Halliday has kept him out the team. Let’s hope all his injuries are behind him. Quote
R1874 Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Top player. Starts for Celtic and Rangers no problem. Very lucky to have him So happy he is back fit. For us and for him, deserves it Quote
GinRummy Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Such a positive influence for a deep lying player Quote
Glamorgan Jambo Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Played very well tonight and hopefully his confidence has got a boost. Looked very tentative with his tackles in the first half, obviously worried about mistiming one and getting a red. Great pass to Hendo for his goal too and came on to a great game in the second half. As the OP said needs to play every game between now and the end of the season. Quote
maroonsgotop Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 well done Peter. Terrific performance tonight. Quote
Gizmo Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 23 hours ago, pettigrewsstylist said: Another waste of money. Shame. Wonder what each performance has cost us. Quote
BigStein Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 never thought of him as a defensive player and tonight highlighted why. Such quality on the ball Quote
DH1986 Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 He is the key to how we can play.....superb performance. Quote
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Still class. Must be part of the midfield next season Quote
thegreatsd Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Great seeing him back to his best out there. He was everywhere and his passing was superb. Hopefully he kicks on from here as him and McEneff look like a great pairing for us in the middle of the pitch. Quote
Don DaniEL Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Looked better tonight. This game will build is confidence and game fitness. Quote
Head The Brick Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Looked like the player we had when he first arrived, long may it continue Quote
No Idle Talk Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 When you see a performance like that tonight you realise how much time we have wasted this season by playing Andy Halliday in central midfield. Halliday isn't capable of a performance like that. That's not me having a go at Halliday, it is just stating a fact. Haring is one of the players in the current squad that we need to be getting the best out of. He is one of the best players we have. Robbie says he's a player who needs game time. So give him game time! Haring was a class above tonight. Quote
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) I presume Irving is defo leaving and we are now playing with those who will be here next season. On that front what is Haring’s contract position? Still a bit concerned Robbie doesn’t rate him - which is gobsmacking. Edited April 9, 2021 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote
RoiK Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Super performance tonight. Calm, confident and assured. Quote
4marsbars Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, stevie1874 said: Scandalous that Andy Halliday has kept him out the team. Let’s hope all his injuries are behind him. Presumably because Haring's not been fully fit? A fit Haring would start every match. Here's hoping. Great to see him take charge tonight. That's what he does so well. Quote
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