JamboBoy Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Just now, john thomas said: Nonsense . The final decision is often left to the player , particularly with Haring's type of injury What is a manager paid to do then? It always has to be his final decision and never any player. No player should be asked to play when needing an injection just to do so. These injections only mask the underlying problem and show a total disregard for a player’s welfare beyond the match he has been asked to play in. Haring is a classic example if one is ever needed of exactly why this should never happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DH1986 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 One of CL’s biggest errors of judgement was not finding a like for like replacement for Haring in January 2019....even someone on loan. I hope he can find that level of form once again.....he was a joy to watch at times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jambopilms Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Been moaning about this for a long time now. Why do we allow teams this freedom and wait until they put in a cross or shot before trying to stop them? What is wrong with tackling up the park so they don't get near our defense? The defense and keeper should be the easiest jobs in the team if all the mids and strikers did their bit. I can only imagine it's down to slow aging legs, daydreaming and being lazy. There can't be any reasonable tactical reason for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 17 minutes ago, DH1986 said: One of CL’s biggest errors of judgement was not finding a like for like replacement for Haring in January 2019....even someone on loan. I hope he can find that level of form once again.....he was a joy to watch at times. Yeah I’d definitely put that in the top 50 Levein blunders that cost us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Good interview with him in the EEN today Seems positive and particularly reflects on how poor he was against Dundee when he got hooked. He admitted he’s found it tough to break in this season during the spells when the team was winning games, but was feeling better and better after the bounce games. Then he got his daft red and suspended Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ribble Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 hours ago, Jim Panzee said: exactly. cannot understand why Haring hasn't been given the same leeway as Halliday. getting Haring and Soutter back to their best would make a big difference. Huge difference between Halliday being a few weeks off the pace after missing most of pre-season and Haring who was out for 18months, most physio's will say it takes 1.5 times the length of injury for a player to get back to their pre-injury level. Going by that Haring will be out of contract before he's performing at his pre-injury level! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Panzee Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 5 minutes ago, Ribble said: Huge difference between Halliday being a few weeks off the pace after missing most of pre-season and Haring who was out for 18months, most physio's will say it takes 1.5 times the length of injury for a player to get back to their pre-injury level. Going by that Haring will be out of contract before he's performing at his pre-injury level! fair point - although wasn't Halliday out of action for 6 months? (obvs not recovering from a potentially career threatening injury). you'd hope that had we been bossing games this season, that RN would've given Haring and some of the you players a few minutes here and there to help with the fitness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john thomas Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, JamboBoy said: What is a manager paid to do then? It always has to be his final decision and never any player. No player should be asked to play when needing an injection just to do so. These injections only mask the underlying problem and show a total disregard for a player’s welfare beyond the match he has been asked to play in. Haring is a classic example if one is ever needed of exactly why this should never happen. Whether right or wrong that is how it often works , even at the highest level Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 23 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: fair point - although wasn't Halliday out of action for 6 months? (obvs not recovering from a potentially career threatening injury). you'd hope that had we been bossing games this season, that RN would've given Haring and some of the you players a few minutes here and there to help with the fitness. Everyone in the squad had been out of action for 6 months Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Panzee Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 21 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Everyone in the squad had been out of action for 6 months or did he say something like he'd not kicked a ball for 6 months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 8 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: or did he say something like he'd not kicked a ball for 6 months. He said something along those lines when he joined. But Hearts had only had a few bounce games and LC group games. Then he came on in the 6-2 game against Dundee, scored, and looked in perfectly good condition. Maybe says more about how bad the condition of our players was that he came in and wasn’t far off the pace after 6 months in lockdown. A bang average player but fitness and work rate wise he’s been fine imo. With Haring, As per the post above, physios will tell you it takes sometimes a year or more for a player to get that power back in his legs. What often happens is, clubs don’t have the patience, managers change and the player moves on, then a year or two later he’s back to top form at another club. But the original club spent all that fortune of his rehab but didn’t wait to reap the benefit. You’ve got to be patient with a player coming back and give it time. But let’s hope we’re seeing the first signs of the Haring fight back now. It would be great to see him put on a maestro performance on Friday night, the fans might even forget about the Neilson rage for a few hours if we got to see vintage Peter Haring again. 🤞 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pilmuir Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Peter Haring back to his best would be a massive boost. We must be patient though, he was out for ages and has had very few games this season. Hopefully he keeps his place for the remaining games. Whoever drops out could hardly complain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Didn’t see the match on Saturday but comments sound positive about Haring. If he can get back to near his best he’ll be a very useful player for us again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mscjambo Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 If the one positive of this season is we get a fitter stronger Peter Haring back next season then that's something. It was hard watching him at points this year struggle but he was our for over a year, so maybe it could take that amount of time to get your sharpness, fitness and confidence back too. Fingers crossed that we do see him get back to somewhere close to where we know he can be Quote Link to post Share on other sites
This is My Story Podcast Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 5 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: He was also critical of Berra and that all played out during the week and he was bombed out. Very difficult not to connect the dots eh! Maybe wildly wrong but it certainly feels weird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, This is My Story Podcast said: Very difficult not to connect the dots eh! Maybe wildly wrong but it certainly feels weird. Far too much of a coincidence really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Locky Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 hours ago, JamboBoy said: The decision can never be the player’s to make. The management and specifically Levein nearly ruined his career and indeed may well have done so as he has really struggled since his return. I really hope he makes a full return to where he was for the sake of the club and , of course the player himself. There can be no excuses for what happened by anyone involved. Levein offering to play him in the final was a mistake, but ultimately it was Haring's decision. Of course, the prospect of playing in a cup final was too much to turn down even with his injury, but no way Levein could force him to play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigAlim Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Good player, a new manager will understand his importance to the team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted Wednesday at 10:38 Share Posted Wednesday at 10:38 17 hours ago, This is My Story Podcast said: Very difficult not to connect the dots eh! Maybe wildly wrong but it certainly feels weird. Just listened to last nights BBC podcast, you were excellent and put your/our points over extremely well 👍🏽👏🏾. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JamboBoy Posted Thursday at 15:36 Share Posted Thursday at 15:36 On 06/04/2021 at 14:21, john thomas said: Nonsense . The final decision is often left to the player , particularly with Haring's type of injury It should never be left to a player to decide. That is what a Manager is paid to do in his role. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
soonbe110 Posted Thursday at 15:38 Share Posted Thursday at 15:38 1 minute ago, JamboBoy said: It should never be left to a player to decide. That is what a Manager is paid to do in his role. Not the way it works. Manager will never play a player who says he isn’t fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john thomas Posted Thursday at 15:39 Share Posted Thursday at 15:39 1 minute ago, JamboBoy said: It should never be left to a player to decide. That is what a Manager is paid to do in his role. Not what happens but this has been done to death already Haring looked like his old self on Saturday . Good news Quote Link to post Share on other sites
upgotheheads Posted Thursday at 19:01 Share Posted Thursday at 19:01 Fingers crossed that this gem of a player is getting back to fitness and form. I think he's still only 27/28 so could have some years left in him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigAlim Posted Thursday at 19:11 Share Posted Thursday at 19:11 Ability and attitude wise he’s one of the few players in the squad who’s proper hearts. Can’t wait to see him under a new manager Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pettigrewsstylist Posted Thursday at 21:24 Share Posted Thursday at 21:24 Another waste of money. Shame. Wonder what each performance has cost us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fultons Right Leg Posted Thursday at 21:26 Share Posted Thursday at 21:26 I once saw him in Waitrose down in Comley Bank. Big man didn’t have anything in his basket that wasn’t green! Mostly spinach and Avocados tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sherbet Posted Thursday at 21:36 Share Posted Thursday at 21:36 6 hours ago, JamboBoy said: It should never be left to a player to decide. That is what a Manager is paid to do in his role. Medical staff surely Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rave MacPherson Posted Friday at 16:38 Share Posted Friday at 16:38 On 06/04/2021 at 11:26, Hectormasson said: This is it, maybe face don't fit with neilson ? Strange why he's mostly been ignored... I think its hair envy, to be honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamtastico Posted Friday at 20:24 Share Posted Friday at 20:24 Good performance tonight. Seems to be getting back to his best... Makes us tick and can do it at both ends of the park. What a pass for Henderson's goal! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tartofmidlothian Posted Friday at 20:25 Share Posted Friday at 20:25 Just brilliant tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salad Fingers Posted Friday at 20:25 Share Posted Friday at 20:25 Bossed the midfield tonight. Okay it's Alloa but it's not like he hasn't looked like a good player in the Premiership. Superb tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Australis Posted Friday at 20:31 Share Posted Friday at 20:31 Fantastic performance tonight. Well done and thank you Peter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevie1874 Posted Friday at 20:34 Share Posted Friday at 20:34 Scandalous that Andy Halliday has kept him out the team. Let’s hope all his injuries are behind him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R1874 Posted Friday at 20:38 Share Posted Friday at 20:38 Top player. Starts for Celtic and Rangers no problem. Very lucky to have him So happy he is back fit. For us and for him, deserves it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted Friday at 20:44 Share Posted Friday at 20:44 Majestic performance from big Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GinRummy Posted Friday at 20:46 Share Posted Friday at 20:46 Such a positive influence for a deep lying player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glamorgan Jambo Posted Friday at 20:47 Share Posted Friday at 20:47 Played very well tonight and hopefully his confidence has got a boost. Looked very tentative with his tackles in the first half, obviously worried about mistiming one and getting a red. Great pass to Hendo for his goal too and came on to a great game in the second half. As the OP said needs to play every game between now and the end of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maroonsgotop Posted Friday at 21:05 Share Posted Friday at 21:05 well done Peter. Terrific performance tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gizmo Posted Friday at 21:11 Share Posted Friday at 21:11 23 hours ago, pettigrewsstylist said: Another waste of money. Shame. Wonder what each performance has cost us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigAlim Posted Friday at 21:13 Share Posted Friday at 21:13 never thought of him as a defensive player and tonight highlighted why. Such quality on the ball Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DH1986 Posted Friday at 21:13 Share Posted Friday at 21:13 He is the key to how we can play.....superb performance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambos1983 Posted Friday at 21:15 Share Posted Friday at 21:15 Back to his brilliant best tonight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted Friday at 21:20 Share Posted Friday at 21:20 Still class. Must be part of the midfield next season Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thegreatsd Posted Friday at 21:21 Share Posted Friday at 21:21 Great seeing him back to his best out there. He was everywhere and his passing was superb. Hopefully he kicks on from here as him and McEneff look like a great pairing for us in the middle of the pitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gavvy Posted Friday at 21:26 Share Posted Friday at 21:26 On 06/04/2021 at 10:29, Stendelnator said: Has to play every minute for the rest of the season, in midfield. He was out for such a long time and the lack of minutes he’s been given this season is absolutely bizarre. There were signs of the old Haring on Saturday, unfortunately too many others weren’t at it but he’s such an important player, we just need to get him games. He had a shocker at Dundee in January but the inconsistency of selection has harmed him badly. Another example of mismanagement this season First time he looked like his old self tonight, not been rushed back with next season in mind. Superb management 👏 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thomaso Posted Friday at 21:35 Share Posted Friday at 21:35 Great to see Peter back to his best 😊 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boy Daniel Posted Friday at 21:36 Share Posted Friday at 21:36 Looked better tonight. This game will build is confidence and game fitness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jambo3tevie Posted Friday at 21:38 Share Posted Friday at 21:38 Looked like the player we had when he first arrived, long may it continue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
No Idle Talk Posted Friday at 21:38 Share Posted Friday at 21:38 When you see a performance like that tonight you realise how much time we have wasted this season by playing Andy Halliday in central midfield. Halliday isn't capable of a performance like that. That's not me having a go at Halliday, it is just stating a fact. Haring is one of the players in the current squad that we need to be getting the best out of. He is one of the best players we have. Robbie says he's a player who needs game time. So give him game time! Haring was a class above tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted Friday at 21:40 Share Posted Friday at 21:40 (edited) I presume Irving is defo leaving and we are now playing with those who will be here next season. On that front what is Haring’s contract position? Still a bit concerned Robbie doesn’t rate him - which is gobsmacking. Edited Friday at 21:40 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.