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Stendelnator

Has to play every minute for the rest of the season, in midfield. He was out for such a long time and the lack of minutes he’s been given this season is absolutely bizarre. There were signs of the old Haring on Saturday, unfortunately too many others weren’t at it but he’s such an important player, we just need to get him games. He had a shocker at Dundee in January but the inconsistency of selection has harmed him badly. Another example of mismanagement this season

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fast_blood

It's hardly ideal giving a player minutes in competitive games and the dundee game proved that. Reserve games have been a miss for him. I agree though that we're a better team with him playing. Hopefully he can kick on from here. 

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A_A wehatethehibs

Agree, we would’ve been far better off giving him the game time rather than Irving who has just wasted it

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Bunny Munro

He's been hung out to dry this season after one - albeit dreadful - bad performance.

 

Others have played badly week in and week out and kept their place.

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Just now, Bunny Munro said:

He's been hung out to dry this season after one - albeit dreadful - bad performance.

 

Others have played badly week in and week out and kept their place.


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milky_26

this is another problem with not having won the league yet. if we had won the league by now we could play haring, souttar along with some youngsters without any pressure to give them games to get back up to where they were and try the younger players out in the first team

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He had a good game on Saturday. Agree with the OP, has to play every game between now and the end of the season so he can get a bit confidence back now that he is fit. Then next season he can get a full pre season and he will be hopefully 100% the same big Pete who is one of our best players. 

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Niemi’s gloves
32 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

Agree, we would’ve been far better off giving him the game time rather than Irving who has just wasted it

Easy to say with hindsight but roll things back a couple of months and Irving was one our better/best players and we were all keen to get him resigned; while Haring wasn’t looking up to speed and many on here were writing him off

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8 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

He had a good game on Saturday. Agree with the OP, has to play every game between now and the end of the season so he can get a bit confidence back now that he is fit. Then next season he can get a full pre season and he will be hopefully 100% the same big Pete who is one of our best players. 

 

Agree entirely. If Haring could play a good chunk of minutes to the end of the season that would be good to see. It would set him up well for preseason and getting back to where he was next season. Hopefully Souttar can get a few minutes towards the end of the season. Although, no pressure on him. Would rather he took his time. 

 

Maybe get McGill a few minutes too actually. Robbie gave him some game time then he disappeared. Would be nice to see the lad given a chance in a less pressured environment (i.e if the league can be won sooner rather than later). 

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JamboNation

Not sure why he hasn't been given a run at cb where he was bought to play at and where our alternatives are awful

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Sir Gio

He had a shocker at Dundee but one of Neilsons mystery quotes he was too defensive for the games we were playing. Played some of our best attacking football with Haring in the team during Levein purple patch 

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Hectormasson
38 minutes ago, Bunny Munro said:

He's been hung out to dry this season after one - albeit dreadful - bad performance.

 

Others have played badly week in and week out and kept their place.

This is it, maybe face don't fit  with neilson ? Strange why he's mostly been ignored...

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Bull's-eye

Just another example of the pandemic hampering training and player recuperation.

 

 

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jambopilms

He is the one player who looks like he wants to put a tackle in and win the ball back. Fed up of the other team waltzing right up to our box before they get challenged.

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Ccjambo1874

As a side. Irving shouldn't be playing any more if he is still stalling on a contract. Would much rather we played McGill for the remainder. We SHOULD have enough to see off Alloa but I don't see the point in playing him any more if he is not staying. He's been below part the last couple of games also. Halliday and Haring beside Mcgill to give him a bit of experience wouldn't be awful if we are persisting with this 3 man midfield.

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Pasquale for King

The manager allowed Halliday to get his fitness by playing competitive games, Haring should play all our remaining games as there’s unlikely to be any more bounce games now. 

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4marsbars

Good to know he played well. Not surprised here.

 

What position was he on Saturday?

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Gordon Ramsay

Probably our best player at the weekend, not saying much I know. 

 

He can be rash but at least he pressurised them when they had the ball. 

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14 minutes ago, jambopilms said:

He is the one player who looks like he wants to put a tackle in and win the ball back. Fed up of the other team waltzing right up to our box before they get challenged.

Been moaning about this for a long time now. Why do we allow teams this freedom and wait until they put in a cross or shot before trying to stop them? What is wrong with tackling up the park so they don't get near our defense?

The defense and keeper should be the easiest jobs in the team if all the mids and strikers did their bit.

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gashauskis9
1 minute ago, 4marsbars said:

Good to know he played well. Not surprised here.

 

What position was he on Saturday?

Holding midfield.  We were much better with 2nd balls on Saturday and he clearly contributed to that.  Would like to see him in there with McEneff and two wide players either side.  4-2-3-1 is overkill against parked buses.  Our central defence continues to be the biggest concern imo (Halkett and Popescu in particular).  

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A_A wehatethehibs

 

 

29 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said:

Just another example of the pandemic hampering training and player recuperation.

 

 


Yep especially since our league was the only one to not bother with the 5 subs. Absolute clown chairmen. Decision will have affected players trying to get back to fitness at all their clubs as well 

 

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john thomas
15 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

The manager allowed Halliday to get his fitness by playing competitive games, Haring should play all our remaining games as there’s unlikely to be any more bounce games now. 

No idea if that was the case with Halliday but what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another .

I think , possibly , the plan with Haring was to bring him on for increasingly extended spells once we were comfortable in a game .

Unfortunately the plan to get us comfortable in a game didn't quite work

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Stendelnator

Haring also offers more of a goal threat than Halliday or Irving with his aerial ability. 

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Bull's-eye
4 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

 

 


Yep especially since our league was the only one to not bother with the 5 subs. Absolute clown chairmen. Decision will have affected players trying to get back to fitness at all their clubs as well 

 

 

Exactly right, as we all now know, the well fair of the players or the leagues or moving the game forward isn't on the table for these other owners 

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This is My Story Podcast

Craig Levein can’t believe Haring hasn’t been starting. Saturday post Queens match. Craig Levein can’t believe Haring hasn’t been starting, Monday Scottish football podcast. Saturday vs Dunfermline, Haring starts after weeks and months in the cold. Maybe am too sensitive to all things hearts right now but no chance that’s a coincidence for me. 

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indianajones
2 minutes ago, This is My Story Podcast said:

Craig Levein can’t believe Haring hasn’t been starting. Saturday post Queens match. Craig Levein can’t believe Haring hasn’t been starting, Monday Scottish football podcast. Saturday vs Dunfermline, Haring starts after weeks and months in the cold. Maybe am too sensitive to all things hearts right now but no chance that’s a coincidence for me. 

 

Yep. 

 

The guy still has his useless thoughts involved in the club without a doubt. 

 

Robbie running to Craig scared as he knows his days are numbers. 

 

Hearts a ****ing shambles just now. 

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A_A wehatethehibs
1 minute ago, This is My Story Podcast said:

Craig Levein can’t believe Haring hasn’t been starting. Saturday post Queens match. Craig Levein can’t believe Haring hasn’t been starting, Monday Scottish football podcast. Saturday vs Dunfermline, Haring starts after weeks and months in the cold. Maybe am too sensitive to all things hearts right now but no chance that’s a coincidence for me. 


Haring did start the game before against Brora though 

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38 minutes ago, Ccjambo1874 said:

As a side. Irving shouldn't be playing any more if he is still stalling on a contract. Would much rather we played McGill for the remainder. We SHOULD have enough to see off Alloa but I don't see the point in playing him any more if he is not staying. He's been below part the last couple of games also. Halliday and Haring beside Mcgill to give him a bit of experience wouldn't be awful if we are persisting with this 3 man midfield.

 

Yeah, commitment is important. I think it sends a good message to the youngsters too. Irving continuing to play despite declining form and stalling on a contract offer isn't good to see. McGill in a midfield with Haring and Halliday to talk him through the game would be good. 

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Jim Panzee
43 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

The manager allowed Halliday to get his fitness by playing competitive games, Haring should play all our remaining games as there’s unlikely to be any more bounce games now. 

exactly. cannot understand why Haring hasn't been given the same leeway as Halliday. 

 

getting Haring and Soutter back to their best would make a big difference.

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16 minutes ago, This is My Story Podcast said:

Craig Levein can’t believe Haring hasn’t been starting. Saturday post Queens match. Craig Levein can’t believe Haring hasn’t been starting, Monday Scottish football podcast. Saturday vs Dunfermline, Haring starts after weeks and months in the cold. Maybe am too sensitive to all things hearts right now but no chance that’s a coincidence for me. 

 Craig was right. What is worrying though is that we've got 4 games left and Robbie still hasn't found a formation or his best starting XI. 

 

Gordon was excellent Saturday as per. 

Halkett was excellent. His best game in ages. Won everything. 

And big Pete too, who played more forward passes than anyone on Saturday. 

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Diadora Van Basten

Glad to hear he played well on Saturday. After the Dundee game when Adam ran rings round him, the long lay off after the Dundee game, getting sent off within minutes of being on the park and the feedback that he wasn’t moving to well v Brora then I thought he was finished.

 

Agreed we should be trying to get him fit by giving him game time. 

 

 

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complete control
1 hour ago, JamboNation said:

Not sure why he hasn't been given a run at cb where he was bought to play at and where our alternatives are awful

Bang on

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This is My Story Podcast
10 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

 Craig was right. What is worrying though is that we've got 4 games left and Robbie still hasn't found a formation or his best starting XI. 

 

Gordon was excellent Saturday as per. 

Halkett was excellent. His best game in ages. Won everything. 

And big Pete too, who played more forward passes than anyone on Saturday. 

He was great and you are correct, why are we 4 games away from the end of the season and still got no clue who the best 11 is of the best formation. Haring has been fit and available nearly all season long. Find it strange that Levein was so vocal about him not playing and then suddenly gets a start. I know he started vs Brora but this was league duty. Shambles of a season, thank god for Craig Gordon. 

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gordiegords

I’ve a horrible feeling that neilson doesn’t like him.

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Pasquale for King
18 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said:

exactly. cannot understand why Haring hasn't been given the same leeway as Halliday. 

 

getting Haring and Soutter back to their best would make a big difference.

Souttar could do with a few games before next season, he can’t be far away. 

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Pasquale for King
4 minutes ago, This is My Story Podcast said:

He was great and you are correct, why are we 4 games away from the end of the season and still got no clue who the best 11 is of the best formation. Haring has been fit and available nearly all season long. Find it strange that Levein was so vocal about him not playing and then suddenly gets a start. I know he started vs Brora but this was league duty. Shambles of a season, thank god for Craig Gordon. 

He was also critical of Berra and that all played out during the week and he was bombed out. 

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Pasquale for King
2 minutes ago, gordiegords said:

I’ve a horrible feeling that neilson doesn’t like him.

Hopefully the new manager will. 

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SomethingAboutObua
21 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said:

exactly. cannot understand why Haring hasn't been given the same leeway as Halliday. 

 

getting Haring and Soutter back to their best would make a big difference.

My guess is Halliday is Neilson's signing and Haring isn't.

 

After all Neilson said a problem for the club is too many players from the relegation season playing, right after match in which 6 of his own signings started. 

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Pasquale for King
34 minutes ago, indianajones said:

 

Yep. 

 

The guy still has his useless thoughts involved in the club without a doubt. 

 

Robbie running to Craig scared as he knows his days are numbers. 

 

Hearts a ****ing shambles just now. 

He’s guaranteed to advise Budge to go for Mcinnes to replace Neilson too, old boys network alive and kicking. 

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OldGorgie
2 hours ago, Bunny Munro said:

He's been hung out to dry this season after one - albeit dreadful - bad performance.

 

Others have played badly week in and week out and kept their place.

White, Irving, Popescu, GMS,  Halkett all fit in that category. Haring had a pretty decent game on Saturday and should be a starter on Friday.

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A_A wehatethehibs
8 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said:

exactly. cannot understand why Haring hasn't been given the same leeway as Halliday. 

 

getting Haring and Soutter back to their best would make a big difference.


Halliday had a 5 or 6 months off from full training having been part of the fittest squad in Scotland at Gerrards Rangers. He wasn’t injured. Haring on the other hand, had been injured / unable to even run without pain for basically 2 years. Anybody that knows anything about fitness would understand the difference. The 2 situations are not comparable. Haring is only just now showing he has got a bit of power back in his legs, that’s how long it’s took. And even against Brora he was sluggish. 

 

The one thing we can all agree about Haring is, it’s good to see him getting through a full season injury free and taking forward steps again. He could be a major player for us next season as long as he keeps on track. 
 

Would love to see him have a few good games before the end of the season as when he’s at his best he’s a great player to watch.

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Japan Jambo
22 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said:

exactly. cannot understand why Haring hasn't been given the same leeway as Halliday. 

 

getting Haring and Soutter back to their best would make a big difference.

 

Think that is equally true for some of the other RN recruits this season. When you bring players in you kind of stand or fall by those decisions, much easier to write off someone else's  signings.

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Pasquale for King
Just now, SomethingAboutObua said:

My guess is Halliday is Neilson's signing and Haring isn't.

 

After all Neilson said a problem for the club is too many players from the relegation season playing, right after match in which 6 of his own signings started. 

Indeed, but Haring didn’t play a single minute of the season we were demoted. 

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Saint Jambo
28 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:


Haring did start the game before against Brora though 

 

Indeed. People seem to be forgetting that before Saturday he came on against Dundee at the beginning of March in the 89th minute, committed one of the stupidest worst challenges you are likely to see all season and got sent off. Against Brora he was one of the worst players on the pitch. He struggled to control a ball or complete a pass.

 

Haring has put in some of the worst performances of anyone this season. His performances haven't been comparable to other players who people feel have been given lots of chances. It is great news that he put in a good performance on Saturday, but lets not pretend that his performance against Dundee was a one off. As someone else has said, he has suffered from the lack of reserve football.

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A_A wehatethehibs
1 minute ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

Indeed. People seem to be forgetting that before Saturday he came on against Dundee at the beginning of March in the 89th minute, committed one of the stupidest worst challenges you are likely to see all season and got sent off. Against Brora he was one of the worst players on the pitch. He struggled to control a ball or complete a pass.

 

Haring has put in some of the worst performances of anyone this season. His performances haven't been comparable to other players who people feel have been given lots of chances. It is great news that he put in a good performance on Saturday, but lets not pretend that his performance against Dundee was a one off. As someone else has said, he has suffered from the lack of reserve football.


He’s certainly not been up to speed but it’s the chicken and egg situation of not having the game time to get up to speed. But he has been given some major opportunities at various junctures in the season where he’s had the chance to come in and perform, state his case, but it’s not happened. But against Dunfy maybe we saw the first green chute of recovery, the first real sign of a Peter Haring revival every Hearts fan would love to see irrespective of who’s the manager. 

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JamboBoy

Haring has been treated abysmally by the management at the club. It was our club management who played him a cup final when he was clearly in no physical condition to have done so. Ironically if he had played the whole match we may well have won that match.

 

Very much like our previous Austrian player, Thomas Flogel, he has superb technical skills way beyond most at the club. His career has been severely hampered by the long term impact of the decision to have played in that match. In other words I firmly believe the club has a lot to answer for.

 

What upsets me most is that yes he had a stinker against Dundee but he was not the only one that night. Also how many stinkers have the likes of Halkett, Popescu, Smith, Kingsley, White, Halliday, Mackay Steven had yet they still have seen regular game time. Mackay Steven in particular has been howling from the very start and yet he is in there every week regardless.

 

Haring is by a country mile our best midfielder when he is on his game and must be given as much game time as possible to get him back to where we and no doubt he also wants to be. 

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john thomas
3 minutes ago, JamboBoy said:

Haring has been treated abysmally by the management at the club. It was our club management who played him a cup final when he was clearly in no physical condition to have done so. Ironically if he had played the whole match we may well have won that match.

 

Very much like our previous Austrian player, Thomas Flogel, he has superb technical skills way beyond most at the club. His career has been severely hampered by the long term impact of the decision to have played in that match. In other words I firmly believe the club has a lot to answer for.

 

What upsets me most is that yes he had a stinker against Dundee but he was not the only one that night. Also how many stinkers have the likes of Halkett, Popescu, Smith, Kingsley, White, Halliday, Mackay Steven had yet they still have seen regular game time. Mackay Steven in particular has been howling from the very start and yet he is in there every week regardless.

 

Haring is by a country mile our best midfielder when he is on his game and must be given as much game time as possible to get him back to where we and no doubt he also wants to be. 

Haring , himself , thought he was ready . He has already stated he had wanted to play in the previous game

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Bunny Munro
1 hour ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

Indeed. People seem to be forgetting that before Saturday he came on against Dundee at the beginning of March in the 89th minute, committed one of the stupidest worst challenges you are likely to see all season and got sent off. Against Brora he was one of the worst players on the pitch. He struggled to control a ball or complete a pass.

 

Haring has put in some of the worst performances of anyone this season. His performances haven't been comparable to other players who people feel have been given lots of chances. It is great news that he put in a good performance on Saturday, but lets not pretend that his performance against Dundee was a one off. As someone else has said, he has suffered from the lack of reserve football.

 

Dundee red card is a fair point. It was daft, but was likely due to trying to do too much to impress after being left on the bench for months despite being fit.

 

You're point about Brora is simply not true. He was our best defender in that game. Although the whole team was poor, he was probably in the top half of our performers.

 

The law paragraph is nonsense too. Apart from Dundee away (where he was dreadful) he has been at worst as bad as those around him. Rarely worse. 

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JamboBoy
1 minute ago, john thomas said:

Haring , himself , thought he was ready . He has already stated he had wanted to play in the previous game

The decision can never be the player’s to make. The management and specifically Levein nearly ruined his career and indeed may well have done so as he has really struggled since his return. I really hope he makes a full return to where he was for the sake of the club and , of course the player himself. There can be no excuses for what happened by anyone involved.

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john thomas
4 minutes ago, JamboBoy said:

The decision can never be the player’s to make. The management and specifically Levein nearly ruined his career and indeed may well have done so as he has really struggled since his return. I really hope he makes a full return to where he was for the sake of the club and , of course the player himself. There can be no excuses for what happened by anyone involved.

Nonsense . The final decision is often left to the player , particularly with Haring's type of injury

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