Kenbo Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said: Wish you meant that 😐😐 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said: Wish you meant that 😐😐 Weed out the critics, establish totally subservience to the dear leader. We should oppose the student flats plan and turn the high school into a death camp for dissenters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 14 hours ago, smiler said: I couldn't be arsed reading it, as I skimmed past it looked a bit Lawsonesque. Fair point but it was passionate and not like a summery of the Nobel peace prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Oh my days. See you in 2023 then Promises, promises. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiler Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: See you in 2023 then Champion! You'll be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Weed out the critics, establish totally subservience to the dear leader. We should oppose the student flats plan and turn the high school into a death camp for dissenters. You've heard something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Riccarton3 said: You've heard something? The OUT Neilson fans will eventually be proved right, which unfortunately means Hearts are going to be playing more games that will make us cringe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, mitch41 said: The OUT Neilson fans will eventually be proved right, which unfortunately means Hearts are going to be playing more games that will make us cringe. Only Burley managed not to play a game that made us cringe. And he only lasted 3 months and had the best squad for 60 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 7 hours ago, avhudtheteeshirt said: You've got to remember this is not all Robbie's team, he has maybe not got the best in yet as money has been tight over this season. He at least needs more time to assemble a squad for the Premiership and see how it goes. Jumping on the get him out bandwagon seems churlish at a time when we are 11 points in front of our nearest challenger in 2nd place? What must other team managers in this league be thinking? We're not very good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, davemclaren said: Only Burley managed not to play a game that made us cringe. And he only lasted 3 months and had the best squad for 60 years. And Romanov sacked him for a non-football reason. A non disclosure was signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, mitch41 said: And Romanov sacked him for a non-football reason. A non disclosure was signed. Still breaks my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four faces Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Only Burley managed not to play a game that made us cringe. And he only lasted 3 months and had the best squad for 60 years. You too young to remember Jim Jeffries first stint then? Part of his second stint too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Only Burley managed not to play a game that made us cringe. And he only lasted 3 months and had the best squad for 60 years. yep. Sad fact is we would’ve be able to afford a single player anywhere near the quality of anyone in that team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Four faces said: You too young to remember Jim Jeffries first stint then? Part of his second stint too. Hi gave us some cringeworthy matches as well as a glorious first trophy in 36 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four faces Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, davemclaren said: Hi gave us some cringeworthy matches as well as a glorious first trophy in 36 years. Not the season we won the cup surely. We played some great stuff for the majority. Wiped the floor with most sides more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Four faces said: You too young to remember Jim Jeffries first stint then? There are several, but this one springs to mind: Sat 23 Mar 1996 15:00 Hearts 2 Partick Thistle 5 Premier League, Tynecastle Park Edinburgh 9610 Burley's short reign was chosen for a reason - every other manager has had plenty of cringeworthy games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Four faces said: Not the season we won the cup surely. We played some great stuff for the majority. Wiped the floor with most sides more than once. I was talking about over their Hearts careers but we did get knocked out the league cup by Dunfermline that season, if I was being picky. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four faces Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: I was talking about over their Hearts careers but we did get knocked out the league cup by Dunfermline that season, if I was being picky. 😎 See what you mean now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, davemclaren said: but we did get knocked out the league cup by Dunfermline that season, if I was being picky. 😎 ...having just lost to them in the league a couple of weeks previously, I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four faces Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hackney Hearts said: There are several, but this one springs to mind: Sat 23 Mar 1996 15:00 Hearts 2 Partick Thistle 5 Premier League, Tynecastle Park Edinburgh 9610 Burley's short reign was chosen for a reason - every other manager has had plenty of cringeworthy games. What? That was a great match😗 only jesting.See the broader context now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Still breaks my heart. I was in the Edmonstone Inn, Danderhall with the Craigmillar Hearts when it came on Sky Sports News that George Burley had left Hearts. It honestly felt like there had been a death in the family, we were all in shock. And then it was WHY ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Reaper Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, mitch41 said: I was in the Edmonstone Inn, Danderhall with the Craigmillar Hearts when it came on Sky Sports News that George Burley had left Hearts. It honestly felt like there had been a death in the family, we were all in shock. And then it was WHY ? I went into denial and refused to believe it. Terrible day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Grim Reaper said: I went into denial and refused to believe it. Terrible day. The thing was, it had been coming. So many rumours (as unbelievable as they felt) so it wasn’t a total surprise. But I remember thinking we’d blown the biggest opportunity ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, mitch41 said: I was in the Edmonstone Inn, Danderhall with the Craigmillar Hearts when it came on Sky Sports News that George Burley had left Hearts. It honestly felt like there had been a death in the family, we were all in shock. And then it was WHY ? Yeah, over the radio. I think there were a good number of my family at home when it broke. Stunned silence. I think Foulkes was on. Grave tones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, mitch41 said: The OUT Neilson fans will eventually be proved right, which unfortunately means Hearts are going to be playing more games that will make us cringe. Of course they will, no manager has went on forever. I want the next manager out too and the one after that. Ill eventually be proven right, just wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, mitch41 said: The OUT Neilson fans will eventually be proved right, which unfortunately means Hearts are going to be playing more games that will make us cringe. What this breaks down into is there’s Hearts fans who want Hearts to lose so they can be proven right. If Neilson doesn’t win this league he’ll be sacked (or should be) if/when we win league Neilson will lead us into the prem. So if there’s fans out there who are so desperate for his removal which will only happen if we lose football matches by definition they are actively hoping for defeats to prove themselves correct and see him gone. That really sticks in my throat, through thick and thin we support Hearts I want them to win every game we play, if we don’t then yes by all means bin the manager. If it’s someone’s sole goal is to be proven right then honestly they’re no fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTH Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, Rudy T said: What this breaks down into is there’s Hearts fans who want Hearts to lose so they can be proven right. If Neilson doesn’t win this league he’ll be sacked (or should be) if/when we win league Neilson will lead us into the prem. So if there’s fans out there who are so desperate for his removal which will only happen if we lose football matches by definition they are actively hoping for defeats to prove themselves correct and see him gone. That really sticks in my throat, through thick and thin we support Hearts I want them to win every game we play, if we don’t then yes by all means bin the manager. If it’s someone’s sole goal is to be proven right then honestly they’re no fan. I doubt anyone's "sole goal" is to be proven right by seeing Hearts lose, there is nothing wrong with wanting the best for the club and Robbie Neilson never does himself any favours in showing that he is the right man to provide that and take the club to the next level. Those who want him out don't want Hearts to lose, far from it, in fact if that's what they wanted they wouldn't be so vocal about wanting him replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: Only Burley managed not to play a game that made us cringe. And he only lasted 3 months and had the best squad for 60 years. Were you not at Livingston in the cup? The rest of it holds though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 46 minutes ago, Rudy T said: What this breaks down into is there’s Hearts fans who want Hearts to lose so they can be proven right. If Neilson doesn’t win this league he’ll be sacked (or should be) if/when we win league Neilson will lead us into the prem. So if there’s fans out there who are so desperate for his removal which will only happen if we lose football matches by definition they are actively hoping for defeats to prove themselves correct and see him gone. That really sticks in my throat, through thick and thin we support Hearts I want them to win every game we play, if we don’t then yes by all means bin the manager. If it’s someone’s sole goal is to be proven right then honestly they’re no fan. This isn’t it man. It’s not about wanting to lose so Neilson goes. It’s the strong suspicion that he won’t do well long term and will go anyway, with the club wasting yet more time in the process. This is a kick-the-can-down-the-road appointment. We can’t fail to win this league so Neilson is safe for that long. But honestly, he’s got no long-term potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 9 hours ago, avhudtheteeshirt said: You've got to remember this is not all Robbie's team, he has maybe not got the best in yet as money has been tight over this season. He at least needs more time to assemble a squad for the Premiership and see how it goes. Jumping on the get him out bandwagon seems churlish at a time when we are 11 points in front of our nearest challenger in 2nd place? What must other team managers in this league be thinking? Other Managers think "Lets keep them out for 30 miniutes then they will run out of ideas" As for the best in yet how many wingers need to sign to get one who can beat a Defender? Why start the game as if you are scared of the oppossition? You would think it is rangers and celtic we are playing not Morton, Q of S, Dundee and Dunfermline.... He is clueless imo. I understand others think he needs more time. With Budge - he will get it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Rudy T said: What this breaks down into is there’s Hearts fans who want Hearts to lose so they can be proven right. If Neilson doesn’t win this league he’ll be sacked (or should be) if/when we win league Neilson will lead us into the prem. So if there’s fans out there who are so desperate for his removal which will only happen if we lose football matches by definition they are actively hoping for defeats to prove themselves correct and see him gone. Jesus wept. You really are just making it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: Jesus wept. You really are just making it up. Nope I’m not, there’s also fans with so much hatred for Neilson they’d happily see Hearts lose to run him out the job. Opinions on this forum become so polarised that’s it’s either Neilson in or out when the reality is you can criticise without wanting him instantly removed, likewise praise him but still want him to do better in games. With such polarised opinions posters strive to be right as such Hearts losing leading to Neilsons sacking will give them a wee online stauner and a chance to gloat, it’s sad behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTH Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 51 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: This isn’t it man. It’s not about wanting to lose so Neilson goes. It’s the strong suspicion that he won’t do well long term and will go anyway, with the club wasting yet more time in the process. This is a kick-the-can-down-the-road appointment. We can’t fail to win this league so Neilson is safe for that long. But honestly, he’s got no long-term potential. Exactly, the instance that "Neilson's only objective this season is to win the league" is a ridiculous argument. For me winning the league is just 1 deliverable that must be achieved on the way to fulfilling the objective for this season. The objective for the season should be to finish the season with a team ready to compete at the top end of the Premiership, in order to have achieved that we need to win the league but we should also be playing football in such a way that we are convincingly tucking away teams like Alloa, Arbroath, Greenock Morton, Dundee, etc. home and away regularly. Yes there will always be the odd week/game where we struggle but those performances should be few and far between rather than the overriding norm. We should be pushing on and be a high with some good football, good results, ideally a good run of form/results and a general feel good factor around the club ready for a charge next season. What is the point in wasting this full season simply because we look like we'll coast our way to the absolute bear minimum requirement of winning the title? We need to be aiming higher than that and be preparing for the future rather than just sitting pretty doing as little as is required to scrape passed the 9 teams we keep declaring we shouldn't even be in the same league as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Nope I’m not, there’s also fans with so much hatred for Neilson they’d happily see Hearts lose to run him out the job. Opinions on this forum become so polarised that’s it’s either Neilson in or out when the reality is you can criticise without wanting him instantly removed, likewise praise him but still want him to do better in games. With such polarised opinions posters strive to be right as such Hearts losing leading to Neilsons sacking will give them a wee online stauner and a chance to gloat, it’s sad behaviour. There's been a lot of the things you talk about in the thread. Have you read it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Nope I’m not, there’s also fans with so much hatred for Neilson they’d happily see Hearts lose to run him out the job. Opinions on this forum become so polarised that’s it’s either Neilson in or out when the reality is you can criticise without wanting him instantly removed, likewise praise him but still want him to do better in games. With such polarised opinions posters strive to be right as such Hearts losing leading to Neilsons sacking will give them a wee online stauner and a chance to gloat, it’s sad behaviour. You're so obsessed with this you just make stuff up to fit your narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, NANOJAMBO said: You're so obsessed with this you just make stuff up to fit your narrative. Obsessed with what?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, Rudy T said: Obsessed with what?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, NANOJAMBO said: smashing👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Nope I’m not, there’s also fans with so much hatred for Neilson they’d happily see Hearts lose to run him out the job. Opinions on this forum become so polarised that’s it’s either Neilson in or out when the reality is you can criticise without wanting him instantly removed, likewise praise him but still want him to do better in games. With such polarised opinions posters strive to be right as such Hearts losing leading to Neilsons sacking will give them a wee online stauner and a chance to gloat, it’s sad behaviour. What i see on match threads is ,if we playing well a lot of posters make no comments or give praise even when we score but as soon as we concede they jump right in with feck off robbie and gtf its like they are just waiting for a mistake to get made and if we score again they go silent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: It’s not 100% his team but it is 100% his tactics. This is what he does. Boring sideways football, worrying about the opposition rather than let them worry about us. I like Robbie and really want his to succeed. I just know he won’t as he simply cannot change. The free flowing football of the first half of 2014/15 season was the exception rather than the rule unfortunately. Most of us do mate but some just lose their shit too easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hearts007 said: What i see on match threads is ,if we playing well a lot of posters make no comments or give praise even when we score but as soon as we concede they jump right in with feck off robbie and gtf its like they are just waiting for a mistake to get made and if we score again they go silent FFS Baws GTF Feck off WTF SHITE Called it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Riccarton3 said: FFS Baws GTF Feck off WTF SHITE Called it 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbofan99 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 He should never have been brought back. It was purely a crowd pleaser...well some of the crowd and never related to his abilites as a coach which it should have been. pathetic really and no im not a phoddle dick just think he has no right managing our team now. May as well keep him to end of season and hope we get promoted but after that goodnight Vienna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, FTH said: Exactly, the instance that "Neilson's only objective this season is to win the league" is a ridiculous argument. For me winning the league is just 1 deliverable that must be achieved on the way to fulfilling the objective for this season. The objective for the season should be to finish the season with a team ready to compete at the top end of the Premiership, in order to have achieved that we need to win the league but we should also be playing football in such a way that we are convincingly tucking away teams like Alloa, Arbroath, Greenock Morton, Dundee, etc. home and away regularly. Yes there will always be the odd week/game where we struggle but those performances should be few and far between rather than the overriding norm. We should be pushing on and be a high with some good football, good results, ideally a good run of form/results and a general feel good factor around the club ready for a charge next season. What is the point in wasting this full season simply because we look like we'll coast our way to the absolute bear minimum requirement of winning the title? We need to be aiming higher than that and be preparing for the future rather than just sitting pretty doing as little as is required to scrape passed the 9 teams we keep declaring we shouldn't even be in the same league as. Nice 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, FTH said: Exactly, the instance that "Neilson's only objective this season is to win the league" is a ridiculous argument. For me winning the league is just 1 deliverable that must be achieved on the way to fulfilling the objective for this season. The objective for the season should be to finish the season with a team ready to compete at the top end of the Premiership, in order to have achieved that we need to win the league but we should also be playing football in such a way that we are convincingly tucking away teams like Alloa, Arbroath, Greenock Morton, Dundee, etc. home and away regularly. Yes there will always be the odd week/game where we struggle but those performances should be few and far between rather than the overriding norm. We should be pushing on and be a high with some good football, good results, ideally a good run of form/results and a general feel good factor around the club ready for a charge next season. What is the point in wasting this full season simply because we look like we'll coast our way to the absolute bear minimum requirement of winning the title? We need to be aiming higher than that and be preparing for the future rather than just sitting pretty doing as little as is required to scrape passed the 9 teams we keep declaring we shouldn't even be in the same league as. You don't know how his team will perform in the top flight next season tho, so you can't use what 17% of folk think against him now? Ridiculous train of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 17% is rather low considering the noise they make. What's sadder is that 17% won't change, no matter what happens and that 17% was the same before a ball was kicked this season. Who wears the blinkers ? Edited February 25, 2021 by Bull's-eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 hours ago, FTH said: Exactly, the instance that "Neilson's only objective this season is to win the league" is a ridiculous argument. For me winning the league is just 1 deliverable that must be achieved on the way to fulfilling the objective for this season. The objective for the season should be to finish the season with a team ready to compete at the top end of the Premiership, in order to have achieved that we need to win the league but we should also be playing football in such a way that we are convincingly tucking away teams like Alloa, Arbroath, Greenock Morton, Dundee, etc. home and away regularly. Yes there will always be the odd week/game where we struggle but those performances should be few and far between rather than the overriding norm. We should be pushing on and be a high with some good football, good results, ideally a good run of form/results and a general feel good factor around the club ready for a charge next season. What is the point in wasting this full season simply because we look like we'll coast our way to the absolute bear minimum requirement of winning the title? We need to be aiming higher than that and be preparing for the future rather than just sitting pretty doing as little as is required to scrape passed the 9 teams we keep declaring we shouldn't even be in the same league as. I agree that winning the league should be taken as nothing much of an achievement. However building a team capable of competing at the 'top end' of the league, when you've got massive budget constraints is fanciful. Yes he should be planning for next season, but he's not going to be able to attract all the players he wants to do that just now. I'm not overly fussed about Robbie either way. I don't love the football, but it's nowhere near as bad as many claim and he's clearly a decent manager. I don't think he'll get much leeway next season to prove he's capable of being more than that, but I hope he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Riccarton3 said: FFS Baws GTF Feck off WTF SHITE Called it We playing "Kickback bingo tomorrow " ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bull's-eye said: 17% is rather low considering the noise they make. What's sadder is that 17% won't change, no matter what happens and that 17% was the same before a ball was kicked this season. Who wears the blinkers ? Hearts average crowd - 17,000 of which 169 are known to want Robbie out , now. I think he can sleep safely for a while yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 26 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: Hearts average crowd - 17,000 of which 169 are known to want Robbie out , now. I think he can sleep safely for a while yet. Just wondering how many of those 135 (correct as at 00:57) actually attend in any case. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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