JamboAl Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Yoda said: And Robinson will not be hanging about Motherwell, picking up his salary for some imaginary "medical review". Not if he himself resigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, Yoda said: And Robinson will not be hanging about Motherwell, picking up his salary for some imaginary "medical review". Dignified and doing what he thinks is best for the club. Fair play to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Stendel maybe tried too much too quick Stendel maybe wasn’t aware of how Scottish football worked Stendel might have been appointed at the wrong time. But, had Peirrera been dropped earlier we wouldn’t have been bottom when the league was called and by all accounts him being in the team for as long as he was wasn’t entirely a football decision. I’m confident enough from what I saw last season to say as a fact that had Bobby been in goals for the games Peirrera played in we wouldn’t have been bottom. Bobby isn’t perfect but he can pull off decent saves, in particular when the ball is straight at him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamTarts98 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Nunya Business said: An uncomfortable truth for the Levein cheerleaders on here is that Stendel won more points as Hearts manager last season than "Our Craig". Anyway, at least Robinson had enough respect for the club to walk away when it was clearly falling apart, rather than outstay his welcome and continue to feed the board bullshit excuses about injuries. Do you have any stats at hand for this? Not doubling you at all, just curious for perspective. If you don't then no probs I'll have a look at London Hearts site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocall51 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 21 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Emotional clap trap. CL left as manager in November. He finished in the top 6 the 2 seasons before. Stendel taken us from 2nd bottom to bottom, 4 points adrift. Losing the first game is irrelevant, he clearly never got the points back as the gap widened. His signings apart from Boyce were poor and had no impact at all. I think he signed abother 4 players all poor. He binned our captain without replacing him. He persisted with a gk that could pass rather than save as he thought that was a priority in embedding his philosophy. We never improved, we got worse. We beat Rangers and Hibs under him , funnily enough the two teams CL beat earlier on in the season as well. CL takes most or or part of the blame for our demotion, but Stendel played his part as well. Any manager that takes Hearts to second bottom over 11 games is a failure and any manger that takes us bottom from that position over a similar amount games is also a failure. Thankfully that won't happen under Robbie. levein didn't beat rangers mate, we were a sinking ship and it was ineveitable that we would go down. no manager would've saved us. sibbick wasn't a poor signing he played two games in which he was excellent in both but sadly got ill/ injured. he replied Berra by appointing Naismith as the captain and funnily enough he is still the captain. you also have to blame mcphee who failed to win most of his games as interim manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, jambocall51 said: levein didn't beat rangers mate, we were a sinking ship and it was ineveitable that we would go down. no manager would've saved us. sibbick wasn't a poor signing he played two games in which he was excellent in both but sadly got ill/ injured. he replied Berra by appointing Naismith as the captain and funnily enough he is still the captain. you also have to blame mcphee who failed to win most of his games as interim manager. Fair points, got to 2-1 and 1-3 mixed up. Don't agree reference going down. I actually think Stendel would have kept us up but the fact is he taken us from second bottom to bottom which imo isn't an improvement or positive in any way. Who know what "would" have happened under him or another manager. Sibbick was a good player, but he was far From match fit then got ill, so wasn't not much use short term. Shame really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 14 hours ago, Last Laff said: Dignified and doing what he thinks is best for the club. Fair play to him. We don’t know that for sure though do we? He could just as easily have spat the dummy after being told there was no money to spend in Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 12 hours ago, JamTarts98 said: Do you have any stats at hand for this? Not doubling you at all, just curious for perspective. If you don't then no probs I'll have a look at London Hearts site. 8 points from 11 games under Levein. 11 points from 14 under Stendel. And it can be argued that Stendel had tougher fixtures to work with than Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 On 31/12/2020 at 17:12, fila said: Totally , Wright had the opportunity a couple of times to move on and upwards , and seemed to bottle it . Be interesting to see if Motherwell make a move for him They've both been linked with then passed over for jobs so many times, including the NI job which hardly has a long queue of candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: They've both been linked with then passed over for jobs so many times, including the NI job which hardly has a long queue of candidates. Same arse bandits touted for every available job. Much better choices exist outside of the bubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Derek Adams, John Robertson and of course Keith Lasley will be considered though today will not help him Tommy Wright may be the bookies favourite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamTarts98 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Nunya Business said: 8 points from 11 games under Levein. 11 points from 14 under Stendel. And it can be argued that Stendel had tougher fixtures to work with than Levein. Thanks Nunya, appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Nunya Business said: 8 points from 11 games under Levein. 11 points from 14 under Stendel. And it can be argued that Stendel had tougher fixtures to work with than Levein. Certainly it can be argued Stendel had 3 more matches to reach his total..what was he after his first 11 matches to give us a comparison based on the same number of fixtures ? Lost 7 , drew 3 and won 1....6 points from 7th December or if we don't include the 7th December an extra point making it 7 points from 11 matches Stats eh, don't you just love them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Certainly it can be argued Stendel had 3 more matches to reach his total..what was he after his first 11 matches to give us a comparison based on the same number of fixtures ? Lost 7 , drew 3 and won 1....6 points from 7th December or if we don't include the 7th December an extra point making it 7 points from 11 matches Stats eh, don't you just love them Feel like moving the goalposts? Cool. 4 wins in all competitions under Levein, including the mighty Stenhousemuir and Cowdenbeath. 5 wins under Stendel. EDIT: We won't go into the fact that this was Leveins team. His players brought in to play his system and style of play. Not Stendels. Edited January 2, 2021 by Nunya Business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Nunya Business said: 8 points from 11 games under Levein. 11 points from 14 under Stendel. And it can be argued that Stendel had tougher fixtures to work with than Levein. Oh wow that’s great Stendel improved the PPG from 0.72 to 0.78. Terrific People need to stop arguing over these ex managers. Neither of them was successful so we’ve since moved on a long time ago. But for some reason, some are unable to let go of long dead arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Oh wow that’s great Stendel improved the PPG Thanks for confirming my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Just now, Nunya Business said: Thanks for confirming my point. Looks like you misunderstood the stat, he improved it from shite to 0.06% less shite. Nobody cares anymore both were pish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Oh wow that’s great Stendel improved the PPG from 0.72 to 0.78. Terrific People need to stop arguing over these ex managers. Neither of them was successful so we’ve since moved on a long time ago. But for some reason, some are unable to let go of long dead arguments. Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Ribble said: We don’t know that for sure though do we? He could just as easily have spat the dummy after being told there was no money to spend in Jan. Aye because Motherwell are loaded and known for backing managers in the transfer market. Could Budge no have done similar to Levein and got him to fk instead of paying him off a couple of times and paying his wages for 6 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Oh wow that’s great Stendel improved the PPG from 0.72 to 0.78. Terrific People need to stop arguing over these ex managers. Neither of them was successful so we’ve since moved on a long time ago. But for some reason, some are unable to let go of long dead arguments. He done that while taking over a team that had won two games all season and had the worst form in the country. Lets pretend his even nearly as culpable as Levein though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Looks like you misunderstood the stat, he improved it from shite to 0.06% less shite. Nobody cares anymore both were pish Evidently people DO care because the discussion is being had. Pretty easy to ignore something if you don't want to read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 This the thread about the ex Motherwell manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Aye because Motherwell are loaded and known for backing managers in the transfer market. Could Budge no have done similar to Levein and got him to fk instead of paying him off a couple of times and paying his wages for 6 months? I was only talking about Robinson, budge could have done loads of things but it has zero to do with folk making Robinson out to be a holier than thou martyr to the Motherwell cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ribble said: I was only talking about Robinson, budge could have done loads of things but it has zero to do with folk making Robinson out to be a holier than thou martyr to the Motherwell cause. He quit, saving them money, when he's realised it's all over for him. Tell you something, I would take him here nae bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Sign him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Hastings Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, indianajones said: Sign him up. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, Last Laff said: He quit, saving them money, when he's realised it's all over for him. Tell you something, I would take him here nae bother. He will never be Hearts manager. We would never appoint him and he would never take the job, both for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 On 01/01/2021 at 03:39, Spellczech said: If that were the case surely Morelos & Eduoard would've been sold when their stock was higher? That's where the holding on to them longer than others can comes into the equation. Both will be gone in the next window if not this one. Currently each side has been chasing a title the significance of which I don't need to go into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: That's where the holding on to them longer than others can comes into the equation. Both will be gone in the next window if not this one. Currently each side has been chasing a title the significance of which I don't need to go into. Celtic don't seem to be chasing it very hard... I genuinely wonder if it has been decided between them that it is better for them to share 9IAR... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Celtic don't seem to be chasing it very hard... I genuinely wonder if it has been decided between them that it is better for them to share 9IAR... Absolutely no chance of that. And by all accounts Celtic were trying very hard indeed yesterday but faced a type of karma. They were played of the park by Rangers in last years league cup final but still won it. Karma is a bitch. I suspect Lennon could now steal a quote from Tommy Burns with a little name change. The Burns quote. Quote "Put it on my tombstone - Andy Goram broke my heart." The gaffer was gob-smacked as super stopper Goram denied his title chasing Celts with a string of wonder saves. Lennon could now say the same thing about Alan Mcgregor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: Absolutely no chance of that. And by all accounts Celtic were trying very hard indeed yesterday but faced a type of karma. They were played of the park by Rangers in last years league cup final but still won it. Karma is a bitch. I suspect Lennon could now steal a quote from Tommy Burns with a little name change. The Burns quote. Lennon could now say the same thing about Alan Mcgregor. I don't believe it is the OF games which decide titles - it is the points dropped elsewhere. Eduoard's form is appalling at the moment. Mr £25m cannot be worth any more than the £9m they paid for him now, probably less... Edited January 3, 2021 by Spellczech posted wrong thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1874f Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 14 hours ago, Ribble said: He will never be Hearts manager. We would never appoint him and he would never take the job, both for the same reason. I think he would jump at the chance to manage Hearts, wouldn’t necessarily take him but I can see him in league 1 in England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, James1874f said: I think he would jump at the chance to manage Hearts, wouldn’t necessarily take him but I can see him in league 1 in England I really don’t think he would....Call it a hunch 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, sadj said: I really don’t think he would....Call it a hunch 😉 correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1874f Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, sadj said: I really don’t think he would....Call it a hunch 😉 See where he ends up I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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