*** Other Scottish football match thread, for anyone who gives a ****

[Hansel]

Just now, dc-jambo said:

the language on that site is often very poor. Will have to pop on there later and have a word 🤓🤣😂

Give them a good telling off mate 😆 

[Andrew Gilbert Wauchope]

9 minutes ago, DG_HMFC said:

 

wondered how long it would be before someone said that.

Someone had to...

[Bazzas right boot]

20 minutes ago, Hansel said:

They're raging on bears den.

 

The language is absolutely vulgar

 

The OF don't do supporting very well.

 

 

[Daveandal]

Just now, Bazzas right boot said:

 

The OF don't do supporting very well.

 

 

 

It does my nut in when people here go full tonto here after a bad performance or result but its nothing compared to Celtic and Rangers fans. Win or walk away is their style.

 

An early goal on Sunday and their end will be Toxic.

[Pasquale for King]

46 minutes ago, Jimbojack said:

I hope we keep Tavernier quiet he seems to be the main threat for them just now 

He always is really, and the weakest link defensively. 

[Pasquale for King]

44 minutes ago, Brick Tamland said:

Lovely stuff, Sevco fans drowning in their own snotters whilst taking their faces for a shite.
Marvellous. 
Let’s get it right up them on Sunday Hearts. 

😆👍🏽👏🏾

[Bazzas right boot]

11 minutes ago, Daveandal said:

 

It does my nut in when people here go full tonto here after a bad performance or result but its nothing compared to Celtic and Rangers fans. Win or walk away is their style.

 

An early goal on Sunday and their end will be Toxic.

 

Yip, they're exactly were they should be and a good celtic team would be out of reach. 

Compared to the 99's and 00's they are skint and are now in competition with the English Championship teams fir players.

They have yet to  accept their position on global football.

 

3 points of 1st and they want everyone sacked, everyone is a fenian and they hate the club.

 

Horrible fans.

 

 

[DG_HMFC]

Their fans will be ready to tear them a new one if we keep them quiet and sneak a lead. 

 

Really hope our boys are at it on Sunday.

[JimmyCant]

Luke McCowan tonight. Absolute stand out. Best player on the park by a distance. If we’ve got even a sniff of a chance of getting him we should move heaven and earth to get it done. Dundee are the best non OF side we’ve played this season and there’s 2/3 of their players we should be looking at seriously

 

Rangers tonight - Noticeably Leggy. Full of decent players but zero cohesion. Even the pundits struggle to tell you what they’re about tactically. Quite a bit better than us if they click and they’ve got scary pace in the wide areas. Very vulnerable on this sort of form though. We’ve got a decent chance here but we need to get at them right from the start like Dundee did tonight

Edited April 17 by JimmyCant

[1971fozzy]

1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said:

Dundee got that point they didn't need. 

 

Hibs confirmed 7th again. 

🤣🤣🤣

[1971fozzy]

53 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Yip, they're exactly were they should be and a good celtic team would be out of reach. 

Compared to the 99's and 00's they are skint and are now in competition with the English Championship teams fir players.

They have yet to  accept their position on global football.

 

3 points of 1st and they want everyone sacked, everyone is a fenian and they hate the club.

 

Horrible fans.

 

 

They aren’t skint

[SectionDJambo]

Does this mean that we’ve done them a favour restricting their tickets for Sunday?

[Carter]

1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said:

He always is really, and the weakest link defensively. 

He leaves a big space that can be exploited. County targeted that area on Sunday and Goldson was dragged into that area again tonight when he went walkabout. He's really very poor defensively.

Edited April 17 by Carter

[Preston Jambo]

2 hours ago, FWJ said:

Let’s hope it’s another 10-0

WE beat them 9-3 in our last Semi Final against them!

[Pasquale for King]

14 minutes ago, Carter said:

He leaves a big space that can be exploited. County targeted that area on Sunday and Goldson was dragged into that area again tonight when he went walkabout. He's really very poor defensively.

Absolutely, the guy on the other side is a liability too. 

[Wee Mikey]

39 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said:

They aren’t skint

 

Did you miss the 'compared to' bit?

 

Maybe not 'skint' now, as such ...

 

... but ...

 

... compared to when they were signing the likes of Paul Gascoigne et-al, aided and abetted by dodgy 'side-letters' and so on ... leading to their demise?

 

Night & day.

[gregzy2k7]

1 hour ago, JimmyCant said:

Luke McCowan tonight. Absolute stand out. Best player on the park by a distance. If we’ve got even a sniff of a chance of getting him we should move heaven and earth to get it done. Dundee are the best non OF side we’ve played this season and there’s 2/3 of their players we should be looking at seriously

 

Rangers tonight - Noticeably Leggy. Full of decent players but zero cohesion. Even the pundits struggle to tell you what they’re about tactically. Quite a bit better than us if they click and they’ve got scary pace in the wide areas. Very vulnerable on this sort of form though. We’ve got a decent chance here but we need to get at them right from the start like Dundee did tonight

 

Agree,

 

The boy has been a stand out this season, I've always liked Cameron personally, but feel he might just be out of our price range, but Mccowan could actually be an excellent pick up as well if we can't get Cameron.

 

I would imagine there will be interest in both players in the summer.

[DesertDawg]

1 hour ago, Carter said:

He leaves a big space that can be exploited. County targeted that area on Sunday and Goldson was dragged into that area again tonight when he went walkabout. He's really very poor defensively.

Neilson figured that out in the Championship game at Tynecastle a few years ago when he played Robbie Muirhead, yes, who now plays at Morton, right up against him and he got 2 goals.....in both cases with Tavernier posted missing somewhere upfield.

 

It's always surprised me how so few opposition managers have figured this out.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

I said I wanted them to win on a jammy goal but this is pretty hilarious so I take it back.

[thee jambo]

7 hours ago, Cameronstheman said:

TBF Blair Spittal done that on Saturday and got away with it 

Spittal did get booked for it. 

[leipzig76]

A couple of posts from Bears den

 

If we ever needed a result the team I’d pick to play is Hearts

 

We we are a mess. This team is broken.
Hearts are favourites for this weekend.

 

 

 So, they think mibbes aye,Mibbes naw.................... I think aye !

[BigAlim]

1 hour ago, leipzig76 said:

A couple of posts from Bears den

 

If we ever needed a result the team I’d pick to play is Hearts

 

We we are a mess. This team is broken.
Hearts are favourites for this weekend.

 

 

 So, they think mibbes aye,Mibbes naw.................... I think aye !

It’s interesting that even their fans seem to acknowledge us as their easiest opponent to play against, puts all the budget chat into context a bit.

[Bazzas right boot]

7 hours ago, 1971fozzy said:

They aren’t skint

 

Compared to celtic they are and compared to the times I mentioned they are, the likes of Bournemouth are a bigger fish than them now.

 

No more Gazzas. Albertz, Klos,  Laudrup, Gattaso, Koemans (sp) etc now.

 

 

[1971fozzy]

Just now, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Compared to celtic they are and compared to the times I mentioned they are, the likes of Bournemouth are a bigger fish than them now.

 

No more Gazzas. Albertz, Klos,  Laudrup, Gattaso, Koemans (sp) etc now.

 

 

yeah I get what you mean now. 

[Bazzas right boot]

7 hours ago, Wee Mikey said:

 

Did you miss the 'compared to' bit?

 

Maybe not 'skint' now, as such ...

 

... but ...

 

... compared to when they were signing the likes of Paul Gascoigne et-al, aided and abetted by dodgy 'side-letters' and so on ... leading to their demise?

 

Night & day.

 

Oops, beaten to it.

[Gundermann]

Seen elsewhere. 

[kingantti1874]

35 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Compared to celtic they are and compared to the times I mentioned they are, the likes of Bournemouth are a bigger fish than them now.

 

No more Gazzas. Albertz, Klos,  Laudrup, Gattaso, Koemans (sp) etc now.

 

 

Agreed, Thing is when they had those players we had Cameron, McCann, Weir, Naismith, Adam, Flogel. We couldn’t get near one of those player now either.  The hearts 1998 team would comfortably win the league.

 

Celtic couldn’t sign a Van Hoojdonk, Larson,  a cadete, a paulo di Canio either.

 

what you are observing is the material decline in Scottish football. But it think you are correct in saying it’s impacted the huns the most.

[RustyRightPeg]

9 hours ago, JimmyCant said:

Luke McCowan tonight. Absolute stand out. Best player on the park by a distance. If we’ve got even a sniff of a chance of getting him we should move heaven and earth to get it done. Dundee are the best non OF side we’ve played this season and there’s 2/3 of their players we should be looking at seriously

 

Rangers tonight - Noticeably Leggy. Full of decent players but zero cohesion. Even the pundits struggle to tell you what they’re about tactically. Quite a bit better than us if they click and they’ve got scary pace in the wide areas. Very vulnerable on this sort of form though. We’ve got a decent chance here but we need to get at them right from the start like Dundee did tonight

 

Mentioned on another thread, when Clement was appointed a whole bundle of Monaco fans on Twitters comments ridiculed the appointment and their comments ranged from no style, no tactics, likes to blame others, bad loser etc..

 

All on display in 4 days between the County and Dundee games. Extremely direct in both, and getting caught in transitions. His post match presser was very patronizing to the support (as funny as it is), but without doubt he's cracking under the pressure and they've chucked their advantage. 

[JimmyCant]

1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said:

 

Mentioned on another thread, when Clement was appointed a whole bundle of Monaco fans on Twitters comments ridiculed the appointment and their comments ranged from no style, no tactics, likes to blame others, bad loser etc..

 

All on display in 4 days between the County and Dundee games. Extremely direct in both, and getting caught in transitions. His post match presser was very patronizing to the support (as funny as it is), but without doubt he's cracking under the pressure and they've chucked their advantage. 

It’s more when they haven’t got the ball, they just don’t take a shape to win it back. Celtic saw it. Ross co saw it and Dundee saw it. Also, psychologically, they went on that great run when Clement first came in but still couldn’t shake off Celtic and build a gap. They look tired as I think Clement beasts them in training and during the season isn’t really best practice to do that so maybe that’s catching up with them.

 

Long to Bakayoko (another player of theirs I really like) who was either winning it and when he wasn’t the Dundee midfield we’re first to the second ball. They play their full backs miles up the park, even without the ball they still sit high up and rarely invert to recover possession. Okay we don’t have a Bakayoko to fight their centre backs but we’ve got clever players who can get at them. They’ve got an arrogance about them defensively that isn’t justified by their quality and their actions. I don’t think Goldson is the cleverest centre back in the world either .

 

It’s Rangers up front we need to worry about. They’ll have Silva Sima Matondo and Mcausland, all very quick in wide areas so we’ll probably need to play a back 3 to help out Atkinson (and Cochrane to a lesser extent) If we’re going to lose it’ll be those 4 who hurt us.

Edited April 18 by JimmyCant

[Rudi5kaceldream1ng]

1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said:

Agreed, Thing is when they had those players we had Cameron, McCann, Weir, Naismith, Adam, Flogel. We couldn’t get near one of those player now either.  The hearts 1998 team would comfortably win the league.

 

Celtic couldn’t sign a Van Hoojdonk, Larson,  a cadete, a paulo di Canio either.

 

what you are observing is the material decline in Scottish football. But it think you are correct in saying it’s impacted the huns the most.

Eh??? 

 

Given I remember clearly the 90s.. I'm just going to dissect your drivel somewhat...

 

Lets see-colin cameron? Signed from 1st division raith rovers. Neil mccann? Signed from 1st division dundee. David weir? Signed from 1st division Falkirk. Gary naismith? Was a ******* hearts youth academy prospect. 

 

As for flogel and Adam signed from clubs we could still sign from today. 

 

So no idea what you're slavering on about. You're claiming hearts couldn't sign Scottish prospects form the bleeding Scottish championship today? 

 

Complete garbage take. 

[doctor jambo]

11 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Yip, they're exactly were they should be and a good celtic team would be out of reach. 

Compared to the 99's and 00's they are skint and are now in competition with the English Championship teams fir players.

They have yet to  accept their position on global football.

 

3 points of 1st and they want everyone sacked, everyone is a fenian and they hate the club.

 

Horrible fans.

 

 

thats because neither of them ever go into a game in scotland as anything other than overwhelming favourites. it must be really weird.

every dropped point is a total shock.

no idea how that feels.

 

[Ex member of the SaS]

BBC showing Sevco committed 13 fouls, seemed much more watching the game. Still no cards despite Tavernier committing a fore arm smash on the Dundee guy. So many fouls where the barged into the back of players and one where the player had to go off plus a two handed shove at the substitution right in front of the ref,  typical biased refereeing, including the ref rushing the Dundee players to stop time wasting. Utterely gob smack the didn't get a Tavpen.

[RustyRightPeg]

1 hour ago, JimmyCant said:

It’s more when they haven’t got the ball, they just don’t take a shape to win it back. Celtic saw it. Ross co saw it and Dundee saw it. Also, psychologically, they went on that great run when Clement first came in but still couldn’t shake off Celtic and build a gap. They look tired as I think Clement beasts them in training and during the season isn’t really best practice to do that so maybe that’s catching up with them.

 

Long to Bakayoko (another player of theirs I really like) who was either winning it and when he wasn’t the Dundee midfield we’re first to the second ball. They play their full backs miles up the park, even without the ball they still sit high up and rarely invert to recover possession. Okay we don’t have a Bakayoko to fight their centre backs but we’ve got clever players who can get at them. They’ve got an arrogance about them defensively that isn’t justified by their quality and their actions. I don’t think Goldson is the cleverest centre back in the world either .

 

It’s Rangers up front we need to worry about. They’ll have Silva Sima Matondo and Mcausland, all very quick in wide areas so we’ll probably need to play a back 3 to help out Atkinson (and Cochrane to a lesser extent) If we’re going to lose it’ll be those 4 who hurt us.

 

You've nailed it. All 3 county goals were counters. I think it's the second, the lad taps it in at the back post and a zoomed out angle shows Barisic just passing the half way line after taking the corner a good 20 seconds earlier.

 

Down the sides with pace is where we get them on Sunday.

[kingantti1874]

1 hour ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said:

Eh??? 

 

Given I remember clearly the 90s.. I'm just going to dissect your drivel somewhat...

 

Lets see-colin cameron? Signed from 1st division raith rovers. Neil mccann? Signed from 1st division dundee. David weir? Signed from 1st division Falkirk. Gary naismith? Was a ******* hearts youth academy prospect. 

 

As for flogel and Adam signed from clubs we could still sign from today. 

 

So no idea what you're slavering on about. You're claiming hearts couldn't sign Scottish prospects form the bleeding Scottish championship today? 

 

Complete garbage take. 

I’ve never interacted with you so not sure why the aggression but now it my turn to correct your “drivel” and overly simple position.  
 

If a player of Neil McCann’s talent were available today, a guy of that talent he likely would never have been at Dundee for us to sign. He’d have been hoovered into an English academy system at a young age.  To buy a prime McCann would cost 8 figures + these days and he’d command wages commensurate with that number.

 

Colin Cameron - see above. Every bit as good as John McGinn is now at a far earlier stage in his career. 
 

David Weir.  We kept David weir for 4 years.  To but David Weir quality player now? What £30,0000,000 maybe? Unbelievable player.
 

Stephane Adam.  We were paying stef £10k per week when we signed him. What is £10k per week in today’s money ? 4/5 times that? 

if we did luckily manage to find / secure a real top player, we’d lose him immediately - see Aaron Hickey if you want an example 

 

of course we could still buy from the Scottish championship but that’s not the point!  (Though I’m not sure we could buy an Austrian international with 30* caps or a striker who regularly started in the French top division  )

 

It’s got nothing to do with “what” club we can attract players from.  The level of player in the championship and available to hearts isn’t what it was either, the standard has slipped across the board  - it’s not even remotely close.

 

There is NO way whatsoever any of the players I mentioned would be at Hearts if playing today.  That quality is miles out of our reach 

Edited April 18 by kingantti1874

[Bazzas right boot]

3 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

Agreed, Thing is when they had those players we had Cameron, McCann, Weir, Naismith, Adam, Flogel. We couldn’t get near one of those player now either.  The hearts 1998 team would comfortably win the league.

 

Celtic couldn’t sign a Van Hoojdonk, Larson,  a cadete, a paulo di Canio either.

 

what you are observing is the material decline in Scottish football. But it think you are correct in saying it’s impacted the huns the most.

 

 

To an extent, but  think we can still sign players from Raith, Falkirk, Dundee etc and Naismith was from our youth, but competition for these types  has widened.

 

Celtic and Rangers had world class or near world class players at their peak - no chance now.

 

It's affected the OF way more and Rangers more than celtic.

Edited April 18 by Bazzas right boot

[JimmyCant]

39 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

I’ve never interacted with you so not sure why the aggression but now it my turn to correct your “drivel” and overly simple position.  
 

If a player of Neil McCann’s talent were available today, a guy of that talent he likely would never have been at Dundee for us to sign. He’d have been hoovered into an English academy system at a young age.  To buy a prime McCann would cost 8 figures + these days and he’d command wages commensurate with that number.

 

Colin Cameron - see above. Every bit as good as John McGinn is now at a far earlier stage in his career. 
 

David Weir.  We kept David weir for 4 years.  To but David Weir quality player now? What £30,0000,000 maybe? Unbelievable player.
 

Stephane Adam.  We were paying stef £10k per week when we signed him. What is £10k per week in today’s money ? 4/5 times that? 

if we did luckily manage to find / secure a real top player, we’d lose him immediately - see Aaron Hickey if you want an example 

 

of course we could still buy from the Scottish championship but that’s not the point!  (Though I’m not sure we could buy an Austrian international with 30* caps or a striker who regularly started in the French top division  )

 

It’s got nothing to do with “what” club we can attract players from.  The level of player in the championship and available to hearts isn’t what it was either, the standard has slipped across the board  - it’s not even remotely close.

 

There is NO way whatsoever any of the players I mentioned would be at Hearts if playing today.  That quality is miles out of our reach 

Agree in principal with most of that. The money swilling about English football ensures our quality incoming has a ceiling and no longevity should we pick up a gem (like Hickey)

 

JJ’s 1998 team standard would thrash the current team and go very VERY close to winning the league. The 05/06 team would win the league by a distance and probably go unbeaten over the course of a season (my opinion of course given these are hypotheticals before anyone jumps all over that statement)

Edited April 18 by JimmyCant

[skacel103]

40 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

 

You've nailed it. All 3 county goals were counters. I think it's the second, the lad taps it in at the back post and a zoomed out angle shows Barisic just passing the half way line after taking the corner a good 20 seconds earlier.

 

Down the sides with pace is where we get them on Sunday.

Rangers will be pressing us from the start. There fans will be demanding it. Youll hear boos with any side passing slow build up from them. We need to defend well get through the 1st half and do like you said above. 

[kingantti1874]

7 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

 

To an extent, but  think we can still sign players from Raith, Falkirk, Dundee etc and Naismith was from our youth, but competition for these types  has widened.

 

Celtic and Rangers had world class or near world class players at their peak - no chance now.

 

It's affected the OF way more and Rangers more than celtic.

 it’s not about the club we can sign from.  It’s the quality of player we can attract and retain. 
 

put simply, you are spot on to say rangers and Celtic cannot attract the same talent they did 25 years ago.  Neither can we, neither can Aberdeen or Hibs or Dundee United.  The standard of football has slipped across the board in Scotland. 
 

it has of course impacted some clubs more than others.  The higher they were the further they’ve had to fall. 

Edited April 18 by kingantti1874

[kingantti1874]

7 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Agree in principal with most of that. The money swilling about English football ensures our quality incoming has a ceiling and no longevity should we pick up a gem (like Hickey)

 

JJ’s 1998 team standard would thrash the current team and go very VERY close to winning the league. The 05/06 team would win the league by a distance and probably go unbeaten over the course of a season (my opinion of course given these are hypotheticals before anyone jumps all over that statement)

I’ll go further .  The 1998 hearts team and the 2005 hearts team would have won the 23/24 league title comfortably. 

[JimmyCant]

12 minutes ago, skacel103 said:

Rangers will be pressing us from the start. There fans will be demanding it. Youll hear boos with any side passing slow build up from them. We need to defend well get through the 1st half and do like you said above. 

They expected a reaction after only just avoiding a hammering from Celtic. Didn’t happen. They expected a reaction after the loss to RC. Didn’t get it. They were poor last night. Disorganised and tired looking. If they turn up in that form on Sunday (no guarantee they will of course) we’ve a very good chance of beating them if we’re set up properly, fully concentrate throughout and manage the game in phases. The only team they have beaten for weeks now is Hibs. In all honesty they should have had the league wrapped up by now but they’ve slumped. If that doesn’t give us hope, nothing will

Edited April 18 by JimmyCant

[JimmyCant]

3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

I’ll go further .  The 1998 hearts team and the 2005 hearts team would have won the 23/24 league title comfortably. 

Well I’m not sure the 98 team had strength in depth (they’d have won the league in 98 if they had) Even the 85/86 team would win the current league .

[Hansel]

9 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

I’ll go further .  The 1998 hearts team and the 2005 hearts team would have won the 23/24 league title comfortably. 

At a canter 👍

 

 

 

[kingantti1874]

14 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Well I’m not sure the 98 team had strength in depth (they’d have won the league in 98 if they had) Even the 85/86 team would win the current league .

we finished 7 points behind a far stronger rangers team and a far stronger Celtic team.  Numbers and would have won the league in 1998 has Cameron not been injured.   Still I think we’d have had enough in 23/24

 

anyway.  All a pipe dream

 

Edited April 18 by kingantti1874

[JimmyCant]

1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said:

we finished 7 points behind a far stronger rangers team and a far stronger Celtic team.  We did suffer in numbers and would have won the league in 1998 has Cameron not been injured.  

 

anyway.  All a pipe dream

 

Yep. Sticks in the craw a bit. The close shaves and the missed opportunities and we’re no closer ourselves these days despite the drop in standards across the board because it effects us as much as them. One day though mate, one day !

[Chong]

I seen the second half. If that's my team playing in a must win match I'd be raging with the performance. They did not look to have any intensity or direction and were totally devoid of any individuality and creativity. We must be confident on Sunday of getting the result, I certainly am. Just avoid giving up a silly goal and I'm certain the won't trouble us anywhere near enough. They've only beat Hibs in their last 8 games.

Let's do this, gorgie rulez.

[Bazzas right boot]

29 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

 it’s not about the club we can sign from.  It’s the quality of player we can attract and retain. 
 

put simply, you are spot on to say rangers and Celtic cannot attract the same talent they did 25 years ago.  Neither can we, neither can Aberdeen or Hibs or Dundee United.  The standard of football has slipped across the board in Scotland. 
 

it has of course impacted some clubs more than others.  The higher they were the further they’ve had to fall. 

 

Keeping players is very similar tbh, if they play well they'll **** of at the end of their contract or we'll be forced to sell.

 

The likes of Mcann, Naismith,  Weir, wallace all ****ed off, same with Berra and Driver etc

That hasn't changed,  now it's Souttar, Gino, Beni, Shankland.

Our quality is perhaps a little bit lower,  but it's hard to gauge where as the OF appeal is now much lower.

 

For Hearts,  I think we are in a better position than that of the late 90's and 00's in teems of recruitment, however the challenges are similar. 

 

Rangers aren't getting  near a Gazza, gatusso, van Brockhurst,  Dutch brothers, Negri, laudrop etc ever again.

 

I'm confident we'll still get good players from the lower end epl championship and 1st division, the better players from rivals and the odd gem from abroad. 

We are actually doing that now tbh, the challenges in keeping them remain the same since post Bosman.

 

The vlad year's ofc is our outlier.

 

 

Anyway,  my point was da peepul haven't realised this yet, they think they're a great pull and don't realise that the likes of Bournemouth are above them in the pecking order now.

 

 

 

[Bazzas right boot]

16 minutes ago, Chong said:

I seen the second half. If that's my team playing in a must win match I'd be raging with the performance. They did not look to have any intensity or direction and were totally devoid of any individuality and creativity. We must be confident on Sunday of getting the result, I certainly am. Just avoid giving up a silly goal and I'm certain the won't trouble us anywhere near enough. They've only beat Hibs in their last 8 games.

Let's do this, gorgie rulez.

 

Dundee are a decent side. As we know.

 

When discussing the OF the media often  ignore the other side almost completely,  it's a bug bear of mine.

 

It's almost a shock if the opposition play well , don't roll over and play the scripted role of cannon fodder.

 

 

Tbf, kris boyd was complimentary of Dundee despite the others best efforts to focus on rangers last night.

 

 

 

[kingantti1874]

9 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Keeping players is very similar tbh, if they play well they'll **** of at the end of their contract or we'll be forced to sell.

 

The likes of Mcann, Naismith,  Weir, wallace all ****ed off, same with Berra and Driver etc

That hasn't changed,  now it's Souttar, Gino, Beni, Shankland.

Our quality is perhaps a little bit lower,  but it's hard to gauge where as the OF appeal is now much lower.

 

For Hearts,  I think we are in a better position than that of the late 90's and 00's in teems of recruitment, however the challenges are similar. 

 

Rangers aren't getting  near a Gazza, gatusso, van Brockhurst,  Dutch brothers, Negri, laudrop etc ever again.

 

I'm confident we'll still get good players from the lower end epl championship and 1st division, the better players from rivals and the odd gem from abroad. 

We are actually doing that now tbh, the challenges in keeping them remain the same since post Bosman.

 

The vlad year's ofc is our outlier.

 

 

Anyway,  my point was da peepul haven't realised this yet, they think they're a great pull and don't realise that the likes of Bournemouth are above them in the pecking order now.

 

 

 

without doubt we are wealthier now, we are better run, we have more money, we spend more money on the pitch 
 

BUT

 

we get less for our money. The 1998 hearts team would batter this hearts team out of sight. Imo only.  2 players from this squad would get in the 1998 squad.  Gordon and Shanks. 
 

You are 100% right about rangers and their fans , but we also had more pull than Bournemouth 25 years ago. Boils my piss how far Scottish football has fallen.

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14 hours ago, JimmyCant said:

Luke McCowan tonight. Absolute stand out. Best player on the park by a distance. If we’ve got even a sniff of a chance of getting him we should move heaven and earth to get it done. Dundee are the best non OF side we’ve played this season and there’s 2/3 of their players we should be looking at seriously

 

Rangers tonight - Noticeably Leggy. Full of decent players but zero cohesion. Even the pundits struggle to tell you what they’re about tactically. Quite a bit better than us if they click and they’ve got scary pace in the wide areas. Very vulnerable on this sort of form though. We’ve got a decent chance here but we need to get at them right from the start like Dundee did tonight

Just watched the highlights and you’re spot on JC. McGowan was fantastic (good post match interview too). He’s a player all right and having watched him against us home and away, I’d have him in a heartbeat. However, methinks others more in the know than me will also have him blinking on their radar …

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32 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

without doubt we are wealthier now, we are better run, we have more money, we spend more money on the pitch 
 

BUT

 

we get less for our money. The 1998 hearts team would batter this hearts team out of sight. Imo only.  2 players from this squad would get in the 1998 squad.  Gordon and Shanks. 
 

You are 100% right about rangers and their fans , but we also had more pull than Bournemouth 25 years ago. Boils my piss how far Scottish football has fallen.

 

 

Nostalgia does funny things to the mind tbh.

The 98 Hearts team was utter shite the season after, this Hearts team looks like having a 3rd, 4th, 3rd behind it.

 

Imo we are witnessing the best Hearts  side since the 80's.

 

No idea if the 98 Hearts side would batter this side, we never will.