Jeff Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: Since lockdown, the jakies have taken over the city centre. Need the buskers back to keep them under control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 6 in hospital with injuries, PC one of them is critical but stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 We're booked into that hotel for Ocean Colour Scene in December. Problem with Hotels, including some really upmarket ones, right now is that they need the money to stay afloat so are taking in homeless, drug users and asylum seekers. Seems to be the case in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 asylum seeker druggie hotel, can't believe that went wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR INCREDIBLE Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Another poor asylum seeker.... Get them all on a boat and get our country back before it's to late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Some posters will not be happy with that. I’m a wishy-washy Guardian-reading liberal, but if a homicidal maniac is busy being homicidal then yes, they need to be stopped and if that means killing them to be sure they cannot continue, then so be it. (I really dislike the, now common, euphemism “take out” though. What? Pictures, dinner and then a club? Phone call the next day to arrange another date? It’s ‘kill’ or ‘assassinate’. Let’s not be squeamish.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, MR INCREDIBLE said: Another poor asylum seeker.... Get them all on a boat and get our country back before it's to late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, MR INCREDIBLE said: Another poor asylum seeker.... Get them all on a boat and get our country back before it's to late. I really dont even know where to start with that, I really dont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, JackLadd said: asylum seeker druggie hotel, can't believe that went wrong. Its actually a decent hotel. I stayed in one in Belfast. They just happen to be using a lot of hotels in the city centre just now to house people who wouldn't normally stay there, funded by the council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: I don’t disagree that an arrest would be ‘better’ but given in these situations you’ve generally got a brainwashed nut job who will happily die trying to take someone else with him being ‘big’ or ‘strong’ isn’t that important. If there’s even a 20% chance the officer get knifed then taking the shot is the only logical option. Police officers have families too. It's an idealistic viewpoint I'm sure, and much more theoretical than practical. It's a shocking incident and my thoughts are reserved solely for the victims, their families and the officers who are having to deal with it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 32 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said: No Doubt Cllr Kelly will be along soon to say the Police officer brought it upon himself and that the suspect was an innocent victim of Police Brutality. I think that’s very unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said: Its actually a decent hotel. I stayed in one in Belfast. They just happen to be using a lot of hotels in the city centre just now to house people who wouldn't normally stay there, funded by the council. Personally I would have asylum cases in a secure facility, but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, MR INCREDIBLE said: Another poor asylum seeker.... Get them all on a boat and get our country back before it's to late. A multi-culti boat trip down the Clyde finishing at Largs for a wee scone mibbe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, MR INCREDIBLE said: Another poor asylum seeker.... Get them all on a boat and get our country back before it's to late. Ok then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 27 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said: We're booked into that hotel for Ocean Colour Scene in December. Problem with Hotels, including some really upmarket ones, right now is that they need the money to stay afloat so are taking in homeless, drug users and asylum seekers. Seems to be the case in this one. It’s not usually a “problem” is it? Hotels all over the U.K. have done it in the last few months without major incidents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, MR INCREDIBLE said: Another poor asylum seeker.... Get them all on a boat and get our country back before it's to late. I remember in the 90s when stuff like this was spouted by people like Nick Griffin. It was viewed by almost everyone as dangerous, racist nonsense and Griffin was basically a pariah. It's inconceivable that he would have found support in mainstream thinking or in the pages of a Hearts fanzine or in a pub chat among Jambos. Yet here we are 25 years later. What the **** happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 That young lad fae NI is struggling, but the reporter doesn't gaf, he just wants his pound of meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I'm confident enough that an armed police officer in Scotland will only take that shot because their training tells them that's what they need to do. Certainly won't be judging them from the comfort of my flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Polis Scotland no fecking aboot. Good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four faces Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said: I remember in the 90s when stuff like this was spouted by people like Nick Griffin. It was viewed by almost everyone as dangerous, racist nonsense and Griffin was basically a pariah. It's inconceivable that he would have found support in mainstream thinking or in the pages of a Hearts fanzine or in a pub chat among Jambos. Yet here we are 25 years later. What the **** happened? He says rightly or wrongly what he thinks.You say what you think and then attack him for what he thinks.Identity politics on full view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said: I remember in the 90s when stuff like this was spouted by people like Nick Griffin. It was viewed by almost everyone as dangerous, racist nonsense and Griffin was basically a pariah. It's inconceivable that he would have found support in mainstream thinking or in the pages of a Hearts fanzine or in a pub chat among Jambos. Yet here we are 25 years later. What the **** happened? Nationalism- scottish, english and so on. Divide people based on birth/colour/religion/which country you fell out of your mother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said: I remember in the 90s when stuff like this was spouted by people like Nick Griffin. It was viewed by almost everyone as dangerous, racist nonsense and Griffin was basically a pariah. It's inconceivable that he would have found support in mainstream thinking or in the pages of a Hearts fanzine or in a pub chat among Jambos. Yet here we are 25 years later. What the **** happened? There are a lot of insecure white guys angry at their own lives just now that take it out on other people they see as less deserving than them. Often found protecting statues these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Just now, Four faces said: He says rightly or wrongly what he thinks.You say what you think and then attack him for what he thinks.Identity politics on full view. So you aren't allowed to attack people's horrific views if they are just saying what they think? Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Izemore Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, FWJ said: I’m a wishy-washy Guardian-reading liberal, but if a homicidal maniac is busy being homicidal then yes, they need to be stopped and if that means killing them to be sure they cannot continue, then so be it. (I really dislike the, now common, euphemism “take out” though. What? Pictures, dinner and then a club? Phone call the next day to arrange another date? It’s ‘kill’ or ‘assassinate’. Let’s not be squeamish.) I don’t disagree with your point, but ‘assassinate’ means to kill someone who wields some power or mass influence, for political or religious reasons. Say Boris Johnson, Donald Trump, any and all members of a royal family, or Pope Francis for instance. ‘Kill’ or ‘terminate’ may be more apt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Four faces said: He says rightly or wrongly what he thinks.You say what you think and then attack him for what he thinks.Identity politics on full view. You can’t criticise someone for questioning someone’s outdated and racist views I’m afraid, not the first time he’s done this either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Four faces said: He says rightly or wrongly what he thinks.You say what you think and then attack him for what he thinks.Identity politics on full view. Don't think he attacked him whatsoever. Challenged his post, as is his right. The guy that posted it I'm sure will defend himself if he wants to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Four faces said: He says rightly or wrongly what he thinks.You say what you think and then attack him for what he thinks.Identity politics on full view. Is his view special and protected like? Have a word mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 The next time that pampered professional footballers decide to "take the knee" , in support of an organisation that wants to disband the Police, perhaps they should remember the bravery of officers who rush into danger every day to help people, regardless of who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, FWJ said: I’m a wishy-washy Guardian-reading liberal, but if a homicidal maniac is busy being homicidal then yes, they need to be stopped and if that means killing them to be sure they cannot continue, then so be it. (I really dislike the, now common, euphemism “take out” though. What? Pictures, dinner and then a club? Phone call the next day to arrange another date? It’s ‘kill’ or ‘assassinate’. Let’s not be squeamish.) They could go and get him a Burger King like the white cops did with the white guy that massacred black folk in a church. https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article25394389.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Four faces said: He says rightly or wrongly what he thinks.You say what you think and then attack him for what he thinks.Identity politics on full view. Are you talking about Griffin or the poster I quoted? Also, attacked? I didn't think that was an attack, tbh. We'll see how it was received if they respond I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: They could go and get him a Burger King like the white cops did with the white guy that massacred black folk in a church. https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article25394389.html Check you out Che Guevara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said: The next time that pampered professional footballers decide to "take the knee" , in support of an organisation that wants to disband the Police, perhaps they should remember the bravery of officers who rush into danger every day to help people, regardless of who they are. Just for clarity, DEFUNDING the police would not mean those officers weren't on scene today. Nowhere close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Nationalism- scottish, english and so on. Divide people based on birth/colour/religion/which country you fell out of your mother Simplistic view, like most of yours. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_nationalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said: Just for clarity, DEFUNDING the police would not mean those officers weren't on scene today. Nowhere close. Really? Whatever. The implication is that the system should be changed just to suit their perceived grievances. They need to be told that won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, SE16 3LN said: Near miss then Trotsky Funny guy, 3 folk are dead and 6 injured. Yet I get my response to this deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Simplistic view, like most of yours. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_nationalism Nationalism fuels division - THEY are different to US. Gives bangers the fuel for their fire- both sides. It makes it acceptable. The English are different , the catholic’s are different , black people are different . No, they ain’t . Good people just want to get on with their lives in peace and stability. Nationalism fuels instability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, OmiyaHearts said: It's a class city, I love living here. A second class city I'm sure you meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Just now, doctor jambo said: Nationalism fuels division - THEY are different to US. Gives bangers the fuel for their fire- both sides. It makes it acceptable. The English are different , the catholic’s are different , black people are different . No, they ain’t . Good people just want to get on with their lives in peace and stability. Nationalism fuels instability. Inequality and wankers fuel division much much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Really? Whatever. The implication is that the system should be changed just to suit their perceived grievances. They need to be told that won't happen. "Whatever"? This is an important distinction! Defunding means police might not be called to things like neighbour disputes, people in mental health distress, homeless people on the street and more. The police will always be there if someone is stabbing a bunch of people in the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Nationalism fuels division - THEY are different to US. Gives bangers the fuel for their fire- both sides. It makes it acceptable. The English are different , the catholic’s are different , black people are different . No, they ain’t . Good people just want to get on with their lives in peace and stability. Nationalism fuels instability. But British Nationalism has taken civilisation to the world, adored by all apparently. No country has ever been hoodwinked as much as the UK into believing it’s never done any harm, only good. Scottish nationalism welcomes anyone from anywhere, to help the nation progress and grow. Edited June 26, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Smithee said: Inequality and wankers fuel division much much more. I agree, but until you find an antidote for stupidity, there is not much we can do. And until we find an economic model that works for all, we are stuck with capitalism, due to the horrid failure of socialist experiments globally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, doctor jambo said: I agree, but until you find an antidote for stupidity, there is not much we can do. And until we find an economic model that works for all, we are stuck with capitalism, due to the horrid failure of socialist experiments globally. Capitalism needs to burn itself out before Socialism can work. We’re well on the way to that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Nationalism- scottish, english and so on. Divide people based on birth/colour/religion/which country you fell out of your mother Nationalism is a very blunt description, and really devoid of any meaning or understanding of the situations or movements it's used to describe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, doctor jambo said: I agree, but until you find an antidote for stupidity, there is not much we can do. And until we find an economic model that works for all, we are stuck with capitalism, due to the horrid failure of socialist experiments globally. The point is that it's not the cause that's the problem, you just don't agree with independence for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Well this thread didn't take long to go off on several different angles, but mainly straight down the shitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 No mean City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Funny guy, 3 folk are dead and 6 injured. Yet I get my response to this deleted. Perhaps you could consider a more appropriate time to post look at me comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Capitalism needs to burn itself out before Socialism can work. We’re well on the way to that happening. The only thing burning itself out Pasquale is C**id19. Capitalism is thriving and long may it do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, Les Izemore said: I don’t disagree with your point, but ‘assassinate’ means to kill someone who wields some power or mass influence, for political or religious reasons. Say Boris Johnson, Donald Trump, any and all members of a royal family, or Pope Francis for instance. ‘Kill’ or ‘terminate’ may be more apt. Yup, but “take out” is used in those circumstances too - talk of taking out Saddam or Gaddafi etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 So a few people have gone to their work today and some of them won’t be going home. Meanwhile on JKB the battle rages! This place sometimes 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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