buzzbomb1958 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Has he got family in South Africa 😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 37 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Keep these shit bag Gillets away from the club. He's worth talking to. "yer no getting full control by the way, but we're willing to let you pump one huner million in" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 5 hours ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: American investors, only w*****s want that. Americans are the worst companies I have ever worked for and No loyalty whatsoever This is a definite no we are not for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Space Pirate said: He's worth talking to. "yer no getting full control by the way, but we're willing to let you pump one huner million in" The Gillets of this world do not pump their own money into clubs they do as the Glasers do and get the club into massive debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husref musemic Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Seymour M Hersh said: The Gillets of this world do not pump their own money into clubs they do as the Glasers do and get the club into massive debt. correct. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/17/glazers-legacy-manchester-united-liverpool stay well clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 We, the fans, have spent the better part of the last decade in taking the club under community ownership. HMFC is not for sale. HMFC is not a vanity project nor a tax dodge nor a debt sponge for some rich chump or other. We are the club and the club is us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: The Gillets of this world do not pump their own money into clubs they do as the Glasers do and get the club into massive debt. You've made it sound no as gid now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWF Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 To Gillett- W. P. O. F. O. D. Y. U. ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, TWF said: To Gillett- W. P. O. F. O. D. Y. U. ?????? U missed an N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Dance Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 His Dad ran Liverpool into the brink of administration. They were all bluster and talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Cade said: We, the fans, have spent the better part of the last decade in taking the club under community ownership. HMFC is not for sale. HMFC is not a vanity project nor a tax dodge nor a debt sponge for some rich chump or other. We are the club and the club is us. Well said! You just saved me typing pretty much the same thing. Only thing I would add - once bitten twice shy. We've entertained ourselves over Ron the Con and his motives - let's not put ourselves potentially in the same position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 We can compete for 3rd without any investment other than from the fans. To compete with Celtic for the title would take a serious amount of cheddar. And for what return..? It’s just not worth it in my opinion for him or us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartmussel Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 It reminds me of the week leading up to an Old Firm match when a weird story appears,maybe just me but I think it's trying to deflect from present problems we face.Probably a mate of Dermot Desmond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 We should talk to this guy. No, the club's not for sale, but feel free to be a FOH contributor or better still a benefactor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I wonder how much he actually values us at ? Stable club, no debt, great infrastructure, just need to find a league that will have us 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Depends what his plans were. I would never be against selling the club if it was to the right people. If the boys absolutely minted and genuinely wants to invest to win trophies, I wouldn't be against it. I personally don't think fan ownership long term will allow us to be ambitious. It safeguards the club perhaps and we will probably always finish bottom 6, mid table or yo-yo between the Premier League and Championship but to challenge and win trophies, I think we need major private investment. Not saying this guy is the guy but I don't think we should ever close ourselves to offers. I'd be down for 51% fan ownership, 49% private ownership like in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balders Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 It shouldn't be dismissed without talking to him at least to understand his motives. He must know there is no money to be made in Scottish football, it's not like an EPL team where investors can leverage up the club while taking in the massive tv and sponsorship money. The only way he could possibly get any return on a scottish team is to have them regularly competing in group stages of a European competition. If have others have suggested there can be strict parameters around maintaining overall fan ownership (51%) and not taking on debt then it must at least be worthwhile hearing him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilmuir Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Depends what his plans were. I would never be against selling the club if it was to the right people. If the boys absolutely minted and genuinely wants to invest to win trophies, I wouldn't be against it. I personally don't think fan ownership long term will allow us to be ambitious. It safeguards the club perhaps and we will probably always finish bottom 6, mid table or yo-yo between the Premier League and Championship but to challenge and win trophies, I think we need major private investment. Not saying this guy is the guy but I don't think we should ever close ourselves to offers. I'd be down for 51% fan ownership, 49% private ownership like in Germany. We have major private investment....from FoH and benefactors. No need for interlopers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 It should be totaly dismissed at this time .100%. Our mysterious Benefactors have said they have our back for the next 5 years . They are likely to back off if we sell out . Let's see where fan ownership takes us . So definitely a no from me . He would not be buying into us for charity or just for fun or chuck money at us ,it would be for business reasons a return no matter if we make money or not . I'm not closed to selling off a portion of our ownership in future but only to a business person with links or an interest in our club or community ,some one who sees the benefit to the community rather than us as an asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, TheBigO said: Ive been drinking cheap spirits. Sorry. Don't be! Expensive or cheap, same end result...😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Pilmuir said: We have major private investment....from FoH and benefactors. No need for interlopers. So what do we need? Because clearly the status quo isn't doing the job where it counts. We've been an epic failure for the last 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory78 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Should talk to him last few years have been a disaster and see his views on the future - if someone had said 4 years on back then we'd be a Championship club (possibly maybe maybe not) I'd have laughed in their face at a utter stupid comment 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Well, I'd consider voting to sell if an offer was made to FoH.... ...by someone legit, not some Yank who probably saw the storyline on Succession and thought it seemed legit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 After what we have been through and some wanting us to explore selling to yanks that have no links to us 🤣🤣🤣 jesus wept. I mean seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 We'd be playing a fixture against Celtic in the USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: After what we have been through and some wanting us to explore selling to yanks that have no links to us 🤣🤣🤣 jesus wept. I mean seriously Spot on. I couldn't agree more. If this guy wants to invest in the club that's fine, but no way can he become the owner. He has to realise that we, the supporters will always have the best interests of the club. If he wants to be the first among equals that's fine but he can't be any more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamishMcGonagall Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: After what we have been through and some wanting us to explore selling to yanks that have no links to us 🤣🤣🤣 jesus wept. I mean seriously This. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny1874 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I wouldn't want to be totally closed off from the option of new investors coming in and taking on the club in future. The deal and investors would obviously need to be right. This guy isn't the right guy to take the club on, and I'd say that this isn't the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodLord Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 In the midst of a football financial Armageddon a financially credible American investor enquires about investing in HMFC and we roundly agree to tell him him to sling his hook. I for one am rather enjoying how this must look to the rest of the leagues. Only HMFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independence Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Manny1874 said: I wouldn't want to be totally closed off from the option of new investors coming in and taking on the club in future. The deal and investors would obviously need to be right. This guy isn't the right guy to take the club on, and I'd say that this isn't the right time. Surely the benefactors and FofH have to be fully bye on board or else...BOLT! I don't want to end up like H1b5 owned by some unknown American. Edited May 28, 2020 by Independence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rannoch Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Some of the comments here show a lack of ambition. He’ll be able to buy bankrupt businesses and assets at knockdown prices post Covid recession. A football club on the other hand gives guys like him a buzz and prestige. Obviously a club in the wealthiest UK city out with London is a big draw for guys like him. Do we want to be some kind of committee run , workers co-op type outfit operating with a small market share and unable to access big investment. The FoH and Anne Budge did a fantastic job in rescuing the club but it’s stalled since and to take it to the next level needs big investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 45 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Well, I'd consider voting to sell if an offer was made to FoH.... ...by someone legit, not some Yank who probably saw the storyline on Succession and thought it seemed legit! What makes people legit ? Has he been convicted of anything ? He appears to be willing to work with FOH so why would we not at least speak to him or any other interested parties ? You only have an issue if a formal offer is made but there is no harm in discussions. The US businessman, son of ex-Liverpool chief George Gillett, contacted the Jambos about the possiblity of buying a stake in the club, but insists there is no formal offer on the table - nor has he heard back from Ann Budge. Gillett says he is ready to make a "significant" investment and is willing to work alongside the Foundation of Hearts, who are on the verge of fan ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, TheGoodLord said: In the midst of a football financial Armageddon a financially credible American investor enquires about investing in HMFC and we roundly agree to tell him him to sling his hook. I for one am rather enjoying how this must look to the rest of the leagues. Only HMFC. Once bitten twice shy imo. One things for sure anyone trying to buy Hearts would have to have very deep pockets and an impeccable reputation for Hearts fans to trust them. No one would get Hearts on the cheap unlike our American owned neighbours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will-i-am-a-jambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, NB GIN said: Americans are the worst companies I have ever worked for and No loyalty whatsoever This is a definite no we are not for sale Definitely, you just have to look at the number of Americans who are now claiming the dole because their employers can't afford them during this pandemic. As you say no loyalty. American business only care about $$$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rannoch Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Socialist People’s Republic of Tynecastle. Well your welcome to that stagnant economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will-i-am-a-jambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rannoch said: Some of the comments here show a lack of ambition. He’ll be able to buy bankrupt businesses and assets at knockdown prices post Covid recession. A football club on the other hand gives guys like him a buzz and prestige. Obviously a club in the wealthiest UK city out with London is a big draw for guys like him. Do we want to be some kind of committee run , workers co-op type outfit operating with a small market share and unable to access big investment. The FoH and Anne Budge did a fantastic job in rescuing the club but it’s stalled since and to take it to the next level needs big investment. I see the point you are trying to make. However, sometimes in life you have to be very careful what you wish for! Remember That guy Romanov promising millions and Champions League football? Look how that turned out. I'd be extremely wary of some guy looking to invest in Hearts who has no obvious affiliation to the club. What's in it for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, TheGoodLord said: In the midst of a football financial Armageddon a financially credible American investor enquires about investing in HMFC and we roundly agree to tell him him to sling his hook. I for one am rather enjoying how this must look to the rest of the leagues. Only HMFC. Welcome to your club then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rannoch Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, will-i-am-a-jambo said: I see the point you are trying to make. However, sometimes in life you have to be very careful what you wish for! Remember That guy Romanov promising millions and Champions League football? Look how that turned out. I'd be extremely wary of some guy looking to invest in Hearts who has no obvious affiliation to the club. What's in it for him? Understand the caution but that’s the only time in my lifetime when the club was riding high. A friend I know knew David Murray and he told him he was genuinely worried that a Romanov Hearts would rival the old firm. Agree it went sour but had it not have been for the banking collapse might have turned out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Quite terrifying reading some of the comments on this thread. Hoping the majority of those thinking we should speak to him aren’t FoH subscribers. 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodLord Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Welcome to your club then I think you’ve missed my point. I mean I’m enjoying the fact other clubs would bite his hand off while we can hold our head high and say no thanks we have this covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, TheGoodLord said: In the midst of a football financial Armageddon a financially credible American investor enquires about investing in HMFC and we roundly agree to tell him him to sling his hook. I for one am rather enjoying how this must look to the rest of the leagues. Only HMFC. Good Lord! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o1djambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Cruyff said: So what do we need? Because clearly the status quo isn't doing the job where it counts. We've been an epic failure for the last 4 years. Not been the lack of money, has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 49 minutes ago, Rannoch said: Socialist People’s Republic of Tynecastle. Well your welcome to that stagnant economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, o1djambo said: Not been the lack of money, has it? No, it's the folk in charge that's the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will-i-am-a-jambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Rannoch said: Understand the caution but that’s the only time in my lifetime when the club was riding high. A friend I know knew David Murray and he told him he was genuinely worried that a Romanov Hearts would rival the old firm. Agree it went sour but had it not have been for the banking collapse might have turned out well. It's certainly a dilemma isn't it? Stick with what we know and end up being an average club or risk going baws deep with an investor that could either lead us to glory or the abyss! Good debate though. Edited May 28, 2020 by will-i-am-a-jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubanjambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Tell him to **** O**, like Ann did. Where were the yanks and big money investors when we REALLY needed it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodLord Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, Special Officer Doofy said: Launch this Hibs ***** utterly Sorry but you’ve totally and utterly misunderstood my post. All I’ve tried to point out is we are in a position to turn down an American investor on account of our FOH model while other teams would cream themselves over such an offer so must look at us with a high degree of envy. Hence the only Hearts comment. I guess it reads differently to how I intended which was with a degree of sarcasm. Hope that clears that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodLord Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said: In that case, apologies. So did I. Accepted and appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubanjambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 That other hibs arsehole owner was willing to work with HSL and see how that worked out 😂. He can donate as little or as much as he wants to FOH without owning any more of the Club than me or any other Foundation member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauldrick Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I think Ann has done the right thing turning down this Gillett guy, we'll probably find out in the future that this was a bit of a close shave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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