Unknown user Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I'm thinking no, but my vote is available for purchase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdryer Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 If he was willing to work alongside foh then it may be worth hearing what his intentions are but to be the majority shareholder and owner then it should never be entertained we have been there before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 54 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said: Quite terrifying reading some of the comments on this thread. Hoping the majority of those thinking we should speak to him aren’t FoH subscribers. 😬 I’d be surprised if they were too. why the fek would we want to entertain Discussions on a bid from someone who has no connection to our club , and who’s family have a shit record in this field. Id go as far as to say they are mental, Hibs or 11 year olds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obua Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I always thought the whole point of FOH was so we would never again be put at risk by some unknown investor. Save Hearts for future generations, not sell to the first or indeed anyone who’s looking to make a fast buck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, obua said: I always thought the whole point of FOH was so we would never again be put at risk by some unknown investor. Save Hearts for future generations, not sell to the first or indeed anyone who’s looking to make a fast buck. yep. In a nutshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubanjambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Rannoch said: Some of the comments here show a lack of ambition. He’ll be able to buy bankrupt businesses and assets at knockdown prices post Covid recession. A football club on the other hand gives guys like him a buzz and prestige. Obviously a club in the wealthiest UK city out with London is a big draw for guys like him. Do we want to be some kind of committee run , workers co-op type outfit operating with a small market share and unable to access big investment. The FoH and Anne Budge did a fantastic job in rescuing the club but it’s stalled since and to take it to the next level needs big investment. 1 hour ago, Rannoch said: Socialist People’s Republic of Tynecastle. Well your welcome to that stagnant economy. No I've got a better Idea why don't we ( FOH, Ann Budge , Fans , benefactors, sorry if I've forgotten any others) bail the Club from the depths of near liquidation , buy the Ground back, all the sleepless nights, organising then get back on our feet financially and flog our arses to the first speculator that shows a bit interest that hasn't even flashed any dollars. Aye we'll have some of that action please because the speculators never really made a James Hunt of all the privatised utilities and the railways and banks - like they never needed to be bailed out by us again- Socialist people's Republic of Tynecastle- 😂😂😂 On yer bike Boris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: I’d be surprised if they were too. why the fek would we want to entertain Discussions on a bid from someone who has no connection to our club , and who’s family have a shit record in this field. Id go as far as to say they are mental, Hibs or 11 year olds. 29 minutes ago, obua said: I always thought the whole point of FOH was so we would never again be put at risk by some unknown investor. Save Hearts for future generations, not sell to the first or indeed anyone who’s looking to make a fast buck. 24 minutes ago, cubanjambo said: No I've got a better Idea why don't we ( FOH, Ann Budge , Fans , benefactors, sorry if I've forgotten any others) bail the Club from the depths of near liquidation , buy the Ground back, all the sleepless nights, organising then get back on our feet financially and flog our arses to the first speculator that shows a bit interest that hasn't even flashed any dollars. Aye we'll have some of that action please because the speculators never really made a James Hunt of all the privatised utilities and the railways and banks - like they never needed to be bailed out by us again- Socialist people's Republic of Tynecastle- 😂😂😂 On yer bike Boris! Bit of faith and hope restored. **** me... some Hearts supporters... 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, Bauldrick said: I think Ann has done the right thing turning down this Gillett guy, we'll probably find out in the future that this was a bit of a close shave! Ann had no choice but to turn the offer down she is basically just the custodian until the shares are transferred to FOH. Any decision on takeovers would have to be made via an EGM of FOH members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Special Officer Doofy said: Quite terrifying reading some of the comments on this thread. Hoping the majority of those thinking we should speak to him aren’t FoH subscribers. 😬 Exactly. I have said before, I think how well we came out of admin has made people forget how very close the club came to going out of business (and how much hard work and luck it took to get out of it.) FoH was brought in to stop the that ever happening because of reckless owners. To suddenly want to change ownership because a person who comes from a family with a poor track record in football club ownership just because they mentioned possible investment is mad. If we were to bring in investment, I would never want them to own more than 49%. But for that it would need to be someone who brings more than just money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, jamboinglasgow said: Exactly. I have said before, I think how well we came out of admin has made people forget how very close the club came to going out of business (and how much hard work and luck it took to get out of it.) FoH was brought in to stop the that ever happening because of reckless owners. To suddenly want to change ownership because a person who comes from a family with a poor track record in football club ownership just because they mentioned possible investment is mad. If we were to bring in investment, I would never want them to own more than 49%. But for that it would need to be someone who brings more than just money. It shits me right up, JiG. Add to that the stupid ***** who are still trying to push the agenda about “banning young fans”... Thankfully the quiet majority recognise arseholes when they see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, cubanjambo said: No I've got a better Idea why don't we ( FOH, Ann Budge , Fans , benefactors, sorry if I've forgotten any others) bail the Club from the depths of near liquidation , buy the Ground back, all the sleepless nights, organising then get back on our feet financially and flog our arses to the first speculator that shows a bit interest that hasn't even flashed any dollars. Aye we'll have some of that action please because the speculators never really made a James Hunt of all the privatised utilities and the railways and banks - like they never needed to be bailed out by us again- Socialist people's Republic of Tynecastle- 😂😂😂 On yer bike Boris! Good Post Comrade👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 47 minutes ago, Hairdryer said: If he was willing to work alongside foh then it may be worth hearing what his intentions are but to be the majority shareholder and owner then it should never be entertained we have been there before Totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubanjambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, will-i-am-a-jambo said: It's certainly a dilemma isn't it? Stick with what we know and end up being an average club or risk going baws deep with an investor that could either lead us to glory or the abyss! Good debate though. I don't see the dilemma anywhere. Why is it you think if we stay fan owned club and do not get a cheapskate spiv to start running the club we will end up average? We could do as good or bad but at least we will be giving it a go as the fan-owned club that we have rebuilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, cubanjambo said: I don't see the dilemma anywhere. Why is it you think if we stay fan owned club and do not get a cheapskate spiv to start running the club we will end up average? We could do as good or bad but at least we will be giving it a go as the fan-owned club that we have rebuilt. Precisely. Bonetti, Massone, etc... etc... GTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 The Foundation is an amazing asset, and a tremendous vehicle for the club, but IMO in terms of running the club it is a step backwards to pre - Mercer days. It's like having: Alf the Accountant; bob the builder; Colin the Chef; Dave the Doctor; Eddie the executive; Frank the Freelancer; Henry the hypnotist; Ian from IT; Jimmy the Joiner; Kevin the Kiln Liam the Lawyer; etc etc... All successful in their small businesses trying to run a football club, a business vastly different from their fields of expertise. There would be significant disagreements all with good foundation based on individual experiences which will split the board. What a football club needs is ONE leader, who considers all the opinions of the board, but a football club run by committee will fail. I mean imagining if Hearts was run by Kickback ... on second thoughts don't! I do think we need a model where the name of the club and perhaps the grass we play on is owned by the FOH, but a wealthy owner is the way ahead. But hey, I've never run a business so what do I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1984 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, luckydug said: Ann had no choice but to turn the offer down she is basically just the custodian until the shares are transferred to FOH. Any decision on takeovers would have to be made via an EGM of FOH members. This. She is compelled to ensure the transfer happens and rightly so. We have short memories if we are being swayed by egomaniacs with a few quid. Let's face it these guys who have never set foot in Edinburgh aren't interested in buying us, or any club, for the fans benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1984 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, H2 said: The Foundation is an amazing asset, and a tremendous vehicle for the club, but IMO in terms of running the club it is a step backwards to pre - Mercer days. It's like having: Alf the Accountant; bob the builder; Colin the Chef; Dave the Doctor; Eddie the executive; Frank the Freelancer; Henry the hypnotist; Ian from IT; Jimmy the Joiner; Kevin the Kiln Liam the Lawyer; etc etc... All successful in their small businesses trying to run a football club, a business vastly different from their fields of expertise. There would be significant disagreements all with good foundation based on individual experiences which will split the board. What a football club needs is ONE leader, who considers all the opinions of the board, but a football club run by committee will fail. I mean imagining if Hearts was run by Kickback ... on second thoughts don't! I do think we need a model where the name of the club and perhaps the grass we play on is owned by the FOH, but a wealthy owner is the way ahead. But hey, I've never run a business so what do I know! From the rest of your post I'd suggest not a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 If he’d pump money into us, sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, H2 said: The Foundation is an amazing asset, and a tremendous vehicle for the club, but IMO in terms of running the club it is a step backwards to pre - Mercer days. It's like having: Alf the Accountant; bob the builder; Colin the Chef; Dave the Doctor; Eddie the executive; Frank the Freelancer; Henry the hypnotist; Ian from IT; Jimmy the Joiner; Kevin the Kiln Liam the Lawyer; etc etc... All successful in their small businesses trying to run a football club, a business vastly different from their fields of expertise. There would be significant disagreements all with good foundation based on individual experiences which will split the board. What a football club needs is ONE leader, who considers all the opinions of the board, but a football club run by committee will fail. I mean imagining if Hearts was run by Kickback ... on second thoughts don't! I do think we need a model where the name of the club and perhaps the grass we play on is owned by the FOH, but a wealthy owner is the way ahead. But hey, I've never run a business so what do I know! Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1984 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, JJ93 said: If he’d pump money into us, sell. That's it? That's all you need to know about the offer? We've been here before. It didn't end well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, hmfc1984 said: From the rest of your post I'd suggest not a lot. True, so we are in the same boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1984 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, H2 said: True, so we are in the same boat Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, hmfc1984 said: Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubanjambo Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, H2 said: The Foundation is an amazing asset, and a tremendous vehicle for the club, but IMO in terms of running the club it is a step backwards to pre - Mercer days. It's like having: Alf the Accountant; bob the builder; Colin the Chef; Dave the Doctor; Eddie the executive; Frank the Freelancer; Henry the hypnotist; Ian from IT; Jimmy the Joiner; Kevin the Kiln Liam the Lawyer; etc etc... All successful in their small businesses trying to run a football club, a business vastly different from their fields of expertise. There would be significant disagreements all with good foundation based on individual experiences which will split the board. What a football club needs is ONE leader, who considers all the opinions of the board, but a football club run by committee will fail. I mean imagining if Hearts was run by Kickback ... on second thoughts don't! I do think we need a model where the name of the club and perhaps the grass we play on is owned by the FOH, but a wealthy owner is the way ahead. But hey, I've never run a business so what do I know! More than likely have one that is elected to run the club with a supporting committee as a business like most others surely. It will be business professionals that steer the club, we will finance it. I don't want to run it personally but I want Only Best for Hearts people to run it and will back them to the hilt . It's like the fools and the scared that want others unconnected with Hearts wanting them to reap the benefits that we have all worked for, after the system that crashed before. We can give this a good shot, It hasn't even started yet and you have the vultures and quick buck speculators hovering and so called Hearts fans wanting to welcome them. If they want to take part let them use their name to sponsor the stands or join the FOH but let's not sell out to them. Don't worry if it goes tits up they'll still be waiting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, H2 said: The Foundation is an amazing asset, and a tremendous vehicle for the club, but IMO in terms of running the club it is a step backwards to pre - Mercer days. It's like having: Alf the Accountant; bob the builder; Colin the Chef; Dave the Doctor; Eddie the executive; Frank the Freelancer; Henry the hypnotist; Ian from IT; Jimmy the Joiner; Kevin the Kiln Liam the Lawyer; etc etc... All successful in their small businesses trying to run a football club, a business vastly different from their fields of expertise. There would be significant disagreements all with good foundation based on individual experiences which will split the board. What a football club needs is ONE leader, who considers all the opinions of the board, but a football club run by committee will fail. I mean imagining if Hearts was run by Kickback ... on second thoughts don't! I do think we need a model where the name of the club and perhaps the grass we play on is owned by the FOH, but a wealthy owner is the way ahead. But hey, I've never run a business so what do I know! What does he know is a more important question. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/edge-glory-brink-administration-liverpools-16900099 https://www.derbycounty.news/opinion/dont-do-it-some-liverpool-fans-warn-derby-county-off-foster-gilletts-potential-takeover-deal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, hmfc1984 said: This. She is compelled to ensure the transfer happens and rightly so. We have short memories if we are being swayed by egomaniacs with a few quid. Let's face it these guys who have never set foot in Edinburgh aren't interested in buying us, or any club, for the fans benefit. Just for the record - who at the club refused the deal and were the FoH reps made aware ? Anyone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown1982 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 I can’t believe people are actually considering this after where we’ve been before. Also with being right on the cusp of actual fan ownership something that will set us up for life and really make the club we love OUR club. Let’s not sell our souls we nearly lost HMFC the last time. It’s not even all that long ago and here we are considering it again??!?! Ann Budge 100% did the right thing in telling this guy where to go. I couldn’t care less how much he is worth. The ONLY people you can really trust to have HMFC’s best interests at heart is US the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, hmfc1984 said: This. She is compelled to ensure the transfer happens and rightly so. We have short memories if we are being swayed by egomaniacs with a few quid. Let's face it these guys who have never set foot in Edinburgh aren't interested in buying us, or any club, for the fans benefit. She is the owner of the club, who made a promise to hand over to FoH, a promise she is honouring. In other words she is "compelled" by her agreement with FoH and her integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 5 hours ago, annushorribilis III said: Just for the record - who at the club refused the deal and were the FoH reps made aware ? Anyone ? It was Wolfgang Schäuble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlo Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 We shouldn't even consider offers like this for a second after everything that's happened over the last 20 years. The most important thing is that the people running the club are the people with the club's best interests at heart i.e. the fans. FOH and fan ownership is the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 This thread gives me the fear. It's like admin and near liquadation never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 9 hours ago, o1djambo said: Not been the lack of money, has it? certainly not. Just that it was all given to one incompetent who spunked it down the drain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 11 hours ago, Cruyff said: Depends what his plans were. I would never be against selling the club if it was to the right people. If the boys absolutely minted and genuinely wants to invest to win trophies, I wouldn't be against it. I personally don't think fan ownership long term will allow us to be ambitious. It safeguards the club perhaps and we will probably always finish bottom 6, mid table or yo-yo between the Premier League and Championship but to challenge and win trophies, I think we need major private investment. Not saying this guy is the guy but I don't think we should ever close ourselves to offers. I'd be down for 51% fan ownership, 49% private ownership like in Germany. If its all about money why would we "bottom six, mid table or a yo-yo club"? We have a bigger budget than most outwith the old firm. No one is investing enough for us to compete with them. So it's about getting the right people in not selling out to someone only interested in a profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parwj Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 On a side note allegedly Harry Redknapp looking to get involved with Airdrie ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 7 hours ago, H2 said: The Foundation is an amazing asset, and a tremendous vehicle for the club, but IMO in terms of running the club it is a step backwards to pre - Mercer days. It's like having: Alf the Accountant; bob the builder; Colin the Chef; Dave the Doctor; Eddie the executive; Frank the Freelancer; Henry the hypnotist; Ian from IT; Jimmy the Joiner; Kevin the Kiln Liam the Lawyer; etc etc... All successful in their small businesses trying to run a football club, a business vastly different from their fields of expertise. There would be significant disagreements all with good foundation based on individual experiences which will split the board. What a football club needs is ONE leader, who considers all the opinions of the board, but a football club run by committee will fail. I mean imagining if Hearts was run by Kickback ... on second thoughts don't! I do think we need a model where the name of the club and perhaps the grass we play on is owned by the FOH, but a wealthy owner is the way ahead. But hey, I've never run a business so what do I know! You could start by visiting the FOH website and reading about how the club will function after the fans take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: This thread gives me the fear. It's like admin and near liquadation never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 8 hours ago, H2 said: The Foundation is an amazing asset, and a tremendous vehicle for the club, but IMO in terms of running the club it is a step backwards to pre - Mercer days. It's like having: Alf the Accountant; bob the builder; Colin the Chef; Dave the Doctor; Eddie the executive; Frank the Freelancer; Henry the hypnotist; Ian from IT; Jimmy the Joiner; Kevin the Kiln Liam the Lawyer; etc etc... All successful in their small businesses trying to run a football club, a business vastly different from their fields of expertise. There would be significant disagreements all with good foundation based on individual experiences which will split the board. What a football club needs is ONE leader, who considers all the opinions of the board, but a football club run by committee will fail. I mean imagining if Hearts was run by Kickback ... on second thoughts don't! I do think we need a model where the name of the club and perhaps the grass we play on is owned by the FOH, but a wealthy owner is the way ahead. But hey, I've never run a business so what do I know! Hopefully we can continue that theme Greg the goalie Lance the left back Danny the defender Chris the centre back Ronnie the right back Mike the midfielder. Ray the right winger Pete the play maker Lorrie the left winger Norrie the number 9 Salamedavic the striker. Marvin the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMcI Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 10 hours ago, CJGJ said: What makes people legit ? Has he been convicted of anything ? He appears to be willing to work with FOH so why would we not at least speak to him or any other interested parties ? You only have an issue if a formal offer is made but there is no harm in discussions. The US businessman, son of ex-Liverpool chief George Gillett, contacted the Jambos about the possiblity of buying a stake in the club, but insists there is no formal offer on the table - nor has he heard back from Ann Budge. Gillett says he is ready to make a "significant" investment and is willing to work alongside the Foundation of Hearts, who are on the verge of fan ownership. I agree. I cant understand dismissing any option out of hand, especially where a partnership could be considered. If it is not right for the club, fine, but at least find out. A lot of people are pretty much fixated by FOH and ownership being the best (only) option but I'll share a concern. FOH is going great.....as it currently is. This is as a concept of fans taking over in the future and the only thing to concern everyone is making their pledges, they know all the decision making is not currently within their remit. Its accepted. But, what concerns me is when we take over the club. There will be an elected board but the mindset changes. Everyone who pledges will "own the club" and when it comes to a bad transfer decision or a decision made by the club about something else and then a significant group disagree we are going to get "but i own part of the club and no one is listening to me". Most will recognize that the club cannot be run by speaking to everyone for their opinion, nothing would ever get done! You just have to come on here daily to see how different everyone's opinion is and also how many football experts we have especially with the benefit of "hindsight" after events have happened. My concern is that "backing the club" through FOH is fantastic for what it currently is and leaving (willingly) the decisions to others. When it turns to ownership my concern the mindset will change and it will become something very very much different. Lets hope I am proven totally and completely wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husref musemic Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 11 hours ago, Rannoch said: Some of the comments here show a lack of ambition. He’ll be able to buy bankrupt businesses and assets at knockdown prices post Covid recession. A football club on the other hand gives guys like him a buzz and prestige. Obviously a club in the wealthiest UK city out with London is a big draw for guys like him. Do we want to be some kind of committee run , workers co-op type outfit operating with a small market share and unable to access big investment. The FoH and Anne Budge did a fantastic job in rescuing the club but it’s stalled since and to take it to the next level needs big investment. we've bought the club, paid for the new main stand & allowed levein free rein with millions buying duds. i think levein has been more expensive than the main stand. those three issues are finished now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockmac Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 If any of us ever want to see us challenging the old firm regularly and winning leagues, then serious investment would be required. We don’t need to sell our soul, but at the very least, we need to listen seriously to what potential investors can do for us. Like others have said, lay down the ground rules from the off, no majority ownership. We really are talking about someone with off the charts wealth, who's motivation and interest would be to build a winning team, it couldn’t be for any other reason as there is no money in Scottish Football. Doesn’t have to be a Hearts fan, just filthy rich, and after experiencing winning the league title by beating Celtic on the last day, he will quickly fall in love with Heart of Midlothian and become a fan for life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) It's only tempting because we're currently so dismal. If we'd finished 3rd or 4th the last couple of seasons it would seem less appealing. We've no idea yet how fan ownership will pan out and those saying a single leader is the way to go...well that's what we've got just now and it's seen massive under achievement and was looking like relegation. We've got plenty of money to be competitive for best of the rest in the league and there's nothing to suggest this guy would be any less wasteful with resources than the current incumbents. Sure, by all means if after a few years of fan ownership we are still hugely under performing then think about a change, but not isn't the time imo. Edited May 29, 2020 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Hopefully we can continue that theme Greg the goalie Lance the left back Danny the defender Chris the centre back Ronnie the right back Mike the midfielder. Ray the right winger Pete the play maker Lorrie the left winger Norrie the number 9 Salamedavic the striker. Marvin the manager. Wayne the Wage Thief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: You could start by visiting the FOH website and reading about how the club will function after the fans take over. Thanks for that Des, i just did. You'll need to send me a link though I can't find anything that says how the club will be run, other than " Fan ownership, but not fan management". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTimes Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 17 hours ago, upgotheheads said: Gillett is one of several parties in recent times to contact Hearts about potentially buying a stake in the club. this s the bit that interests me. Shows we have potential that's been spotted by others. All the more reason to tell them where to go. This is the bit that makes me wonder if Budge is leaking this particular one to the press in order to take attention away from the fact that Reconstruction remains dead in the water, so she's just wasted yet more time on something any fool could have told her wasn't going to happen. I doubt we'll take legal action either. She really has shown herself to be completely useless at running this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 I always think if you want to weigh up whether to accept someone buying the club, i would always ask what are they wanting out of this, are they just wanting to have a club and expect no money back? Are they looking to use the club for financial purposes (like the Glaziers for example who use Man Utd to earn money on dividends and use for loans that their other companies need.) Is it for PR/sportwashing (though thats more for state takeovers of clubs like Man City, Qatar and soon Newcastle.) Also I would question long term what happens, especially with money. Is the money just pumped into the club through donation, or is it by loans which happened under Romanov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdryer Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 10 hours ago, o1djambo said: Not been the lack of money, has it? Exactly the problem has been the wasting of money in the football department mainly Craig Levein and his agent friends progress will be him away on Monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, fabienleclerq said: If its all about money why would we "bottom six, mid table or a yo-yo club"? We have a bigger budget than most outwith the old firm. No one is investing enough for us to compete with them. So it's about getting the right people in not selling out to someone only interested in a profit. Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, HighTimes said: This is the bit that makes me wonder if Budge is leaking this particular one to the press in order to take attention away from the fact that Reconstruction remains dead in the water, so she's just wasted yet more time on something any fool could have told her wasn't going to happen. I doubt we'll take legal action either. She really has shown herself to be completely useless at running this club. FTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, HighTimes said: This is the bit that makes me wonder if Budge is leaking this particular one to the press in order to take attention away from the fact that Reconstruction remains dead in the water, so she's just wasted yet more time on something any fool could have told her wasn't going to happen. I doubt we'll take legal action either. She really has shown herself to be completely useless at running this club. Bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodLord Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, fabienleclerq said: If its all about money why would we "bottom six, mid table or a yo-yo club"? We have a bigger budget than most outwith the old firm. No one is investing enough for us to compete with them. So it's about getting the right people in not selling out to someone only interested in a profit. 100% Correct. Only thing I can’t fathom is realistically how much profit could you make? If you already have a few hundred mill what profit would you want to bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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