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57 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

You know we are not allowed to talk about an active case in session, right? 
 

right everyone be quiet because Hendolad said so... 

I'm cringing with some of the chat.Isn't there a match thread for the hilarious banter Clark?

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Turkishcap

Way off topic but seriously every time I think of AB all I see in my mind is Ann Hegarty from the Chase, ND I have this image of the Beast, Mark Labbett, anyone else get this?

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Just now, mintmyster said:

Are the login details different to yesterday - sorry if covered earlier in the thread.

yes

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flecktimus
Just now, mintmyster said:

Are the login details different to yesterday - sorry if covered earlier in the thread.

1379262679

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1 minute ago, Jamboelite said:

I dont know whats going on but am i to get excited........


 

No. Still in the balance I’d say. 

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1 minute ago, mintmyster said:

Are the login details different to yesterday - sorry if covered earlier in the thread.

Try 020 7660 8149

 

137 926 2679

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1 hour ago, kila said:

 

Do you ever go caravaning with a relative from Hamilton?

 

What are you going on about?

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Jambos_1874
1 hour ago, wavydavy said:

 

Arbitration would mean a panel set up by SFA/SPFL to make a ruling similar to what Lord Clark is doing now the only difference being it is not in a court of law.

 

David Thomson the Hearts QC said this yesterday.

 

He claimed it was "surprising" to hear his opponents argue that the case was best left to football authorities given that an arbitration panel would be made up of retired sheriffs for example.

 

 

 

That would hardly be impartial if it is set up by the SFA or SPFL!!

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PhoenixHearts
Just now, Turkishcap said:

Way off topic but seriously every time I think of AB all I see in my mind is Ann Hegarty from the Chase, ND I have this image of the Beast, Mark Labbett, anyone else get this?

Not so much the Ann thing, but yes I do also picture the Beast when I think of Doncaster. Think it's the wee sleekit eyes.

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Hector Riva
1 minute ago, Turkishcap said:

Way off topic but seriously every time I think of AB all I see in my mind is Ann Hegarty from the Chase, ND I have this image of the Beast, Mark Labbett, anyone else get this?

Nope lol

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Captain Canada
Just now, Biffa Bacon said:

Fixtures can be amended.

 

I think the SPFL will do everything to avoid that, especially when Sky will want to finalise their schedule. I can't imagine they have much patience left with the whole debacle.

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41 minutes ago, David McCaig said:

Heart of Midlothian/Partick Thistle v SPFL: Day 2

 

 

David Thomson QC – Hearts/Partick

 

The effect of Section of 2010 Arbitration Act – the language is clear, unambiguous and speaks for itself.

 

The court does not have a discretion to overlook this language.  This seems to be at odds with the position in England and is based on different historical context.

 

Feels that the motion is ill-conceived and that the right to seek a sist depends on the applicant doing neither of the actions stated in 10(1d). To retain the right to seek a sist the respondents must not place substantive answers.

 

Thomson disputed Borland’s argument that they had to give a substantive answer. There is no basis that this could be considered to be a 2-sided dispute.

 

Motions for interim order argued daily without defences being lodged.

 

Therefore argues that the right to seek arbitration has been lost.

 

Any referral to arbitration would lead to valuable time being lost and more importantly the matters raised are of significant public interest and concern.

 

Reference is made to the extraordinary communication made to clubs last week telling them that it was necessary for them to support the SPFL in order to see the papers.

 

Lord Clark highlights that the email from Dundee was received at 4:48pm on the day on question.  Does this help in speeding things up.?

 

DT refers to the debacle of the Dundee vote and the public interest in clearing this up.

 

We are entitled to discover the truth of what happened in that episode.

 

Lord Clark: Will evidence, afadavits and witness statements be required? Will witnesses be required to be led.

 

DT – the focus of the petitioners is likely to be on documentary evidence, but cant say for certain there would be no need for cross-examination… particularly the conversations between John Nelms and Neil Doncaster.  There would also be an evidence requirement for any compensation demand.

 

Lord Clark: A requirement for evidence and limited cross-examination.

 

DT – Submission 2

 

No valid arbitration clause is in play.  The starting point in any consideration should be the SPFL rules and these are not clear or definitive about arbitration

 

Reliance about SFA disciplinary rule 78 by Moynihan to suggest agreement to arbitration process does no such thing.

 

In the context of the present petition the arbitration provision of article 99 has not been incorporated.

 

Lord Clark – Is there a members agreement amongst clubs to resolve disputes via arbitration.

 

DT – Yes but only under article 99 and this petition is brought as shareholders within the SPFL Ltd. This why this is not a football dispute.

 

Temporary break in proceedings due to Broaband Issues – court not in session

Cheers for this.

It was interesting to hear Thomson banging the drum about the public interest angle.

I liked how he (repeatedly ?) mentioned the SFA punishment clause (my words) Moynihan refered to yesterday and said , basically, what the says SFA doesn't matter because this isn't about a dispute with the SFA : "it's about the SPFL and how it conducts its business". And Hearts are bringing the action as a shareholder of the SPFL, not a member of the SFA. 

 

 

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All roads lead to Gorgie

I hope that wasn't just someone going yassss when all it is just a corner in a game.

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hughesie27
Just now, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

I hope that wasn't just someone going yassss when all it is just a corner in a game.

It wasn't

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bobskeldon
Just now, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

I hope that wasn't just someone going yassss when all it is just a corner in a game.

Looked like a goal to me!

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1 minute ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

I hope that wasn't just someone going yassss when all it is just a corner in a game.


It was an overhead kick from outside the box into the top corner.

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3 minutes ago, hmfc_steve said:

Are the fixtures not out on Monday ?

Apparently. Hopefully that will work in our favour 

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bobskeldon
Just now, Neil Dongcaster said:


It was an overhead kick from outside the box into the top corner.

Just past the half way line😀

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Just now, Neil Dongcaster said:


It was an overhead kick from outside the box into the top corner.

😳😁

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All roads lead to Gorgie
2 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

It wasn't

 

1 minute ago, bobskeldon said:

Looked like a goal to me!

 

1 minute ago, Neil Dongcaster said:


It was an overhead kick from outside the box into the top corner.

:thumbsup:

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5 minutes ago, Stupid Sexy Flanders said:

Has something genuinely positive just happened or are folk at the wind up?


people are not on the wind up. 

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8 minutes ago, DarthVodka said:

I just tried to join via webex - to see if I could see what was going but, if only they shared their password (it wasnt password)

 

Every time I join I have to put the 137 926 2679 in twice. 

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DarthVodka
2 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

Every time I join I have to put the 137 926 2679 in twice. 

 

did you join the via the webex app?  Not just audio

 

I was on via phone earlier - but I thought it would at least look like i am working if on a webex call via laptop 😃

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hughesie27
Just now, NANOJAMBO said:

Every time I join I have to put the 137 926 2679 in twice. 

you just need to press # twice.

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Just now, bobskeldon said:

I think that's another goal!

Lobbed the keeper from the halfway line or 5 yard tap in? 

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We're only on parts 1 and 2 of the hearing as well. All 3 will still have to speak on part 3, hence I don't think anything will be decided before Monday.

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Just now, bmxweeman said:

Once court day finishes at 4 are we allowed to discuss what’s going on?

Yes. When the Court is not in session. 

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Just now, DarthVodka said:

 

did you join the via the webex app?  Not just audio

Sorry- confused. I just dialled in on the number. It's audio only for the public. 

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Just now, Cruyff said:

Lobbed the keeper from the halfway line or 5 yard tap in? 

Might even be a couple of own goals by the sound of it.

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1 minute ago, bmxweeman said:

Once court day finishes at 4 are we allowed to discuss what’s going on?

yes.

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1 minute ago, benny said:

Might even be a couple of own goals by the sound of it.

 

1 minute ago, bobskeldon said:

own goal

dull yin.

 

:jjyay:

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1 minute ago, Heartsmad1874 said:

Hung up after the connection issues :seething: seems like i’ve missed something juicy :( 

Me too, couldn't be arsed listening to that DU guy again - was painful yesterday. 

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Bring Back Paulo Sergio

I edited my comment earlier to say it was a clear own goal. Don't have a clue why it was deleted as thats all it said.

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