5-1Jambo Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 If the DU motion is carried then there is no hearing for our case as it will be sent to arbitration. For Boreland read Snoreland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 How long a slot do we have today? Could this carry over until tomorrow? Thinking our setting out may take much longer than dundee utd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, GorgieRules22 said: Is it Gareth Gates ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRY Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, Last Laff said: So the Judge can write it down. Aah, ok - cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Its like fairy tale stuff - stop promotion /relegation if another covid 19 outbreak but its ok to do it this year !! have they actually said that out loud and think its reasonable ? I reckon this has been a plan all along - certainly from that at Ross Country. Send us down on a "can't reconstruct this season" ticket, then move reconstruction next season by saying that due to a curtailed Championship, there should be no relegation/promotion. For a supposed bible basher he's the ****ing devil - I trust our legal team are well aware of this possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, Last Laff said: So the Judge can write it down. Nae dictaphone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyskey Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 surely if hearts win there case then dundee united and others would have to take the spfl to court not us at, the this moment in time. they are in the premier league as it stands therefor if the spfl lose this case then they claim against the spfl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: How long a slot do we have today? Could this carry over until tomorrow? Thinking our setting out may take much longer than dundee utd Judge said he might take overnight to decide how to proceed...just as well cos this DU boy is taking us to bedtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troonmaroon Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, 5-1Jambo said: If the DU motion is carried then there is no hearing for our case as it will be sent to arbitration. For Boreland read Snoreland. And if not carried, presumably spfl will seek to carry a motion too...? And only then might they reach the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I dont understand why they would go first surely it would be us or the SPFL and that decision would make the DU redundant or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 listened for two minutes. I'm out. Who ever was talking is slower than glaciers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Ooops, a colleague been trying to ring me the last hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tartlet Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gizmo said: I reckon this has been a plan all along - certainly from that at Ross Country. Send us down on a "can't reconstruct this season" ticket, then move reconstruction next season by saying that due to a curtailed Championship, there should be no relegation/promotion. For a supposed bible basher he's the ****ing devil - I trust our legal team are well aware of this possibility. They can get to f@ck with the no relegation/promotion next season nonsense. It literally makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, GorgieRules22 said: Is it Gareth Gates ? Laughed out loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Wouldn't have been any need for it in the first place if things had been done correctly. Correctly would've been reconstruction, no Hearts relegated and Dundee Utd and whoever was in second place up. No (major) harm done financially. All it's done has made everyone else turn against Hearts through no fault of our own. A pandemic is a pandemic but unfortunately the clowns that run the game are incompetent fools who don't see the bigger picture. Didn't matter who was bottom, there shouldn't have been relegation unless the League had been finished. We are the laughing stock of Europe but as long as the SPFL are there in their present capacity, Scottish football will continue to be the backwater farce that it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Dundee United can do one they got awarded the league then voted against reconstruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brux Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Logged in to listen to this for 4 mins, dull, dull, dull. Ill just await the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Nae dictaphone?? Dont think he has Doncasters number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Gizmo said: I reckon this has been a plan all along - certainly from that at Ross Country. Send us down on a "can't reconstruct this season" ticket, then move reconstruction next season by saying that due to a curtailed Championship, there should be no relegation/promotion. For a supposed bible basher he's the ****ing devil - I trust our legal team are well aware of this possibility. If this becomes clear to be the plan, I really think the idea of resigning league membership to join England in whatever league we can get (with clubs like Bury going out the box, or Wigan going into Admin, things aren't looking bright down there which opens up the chance to enter at a higher level potentially). Its not an idea i'd have been keen to entertain, but this is just wrong on so many levels. Why entertain Scottish footballs bowling club mentality it any longer? Edited July 1, 2020 by OTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, brux said: Logged in to listen to this for 4 mins, dull, dull, dull. Ill just await the outcome. Where are you hearing it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1964m Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 This was SPFL trump card them 1st bore the judge he falls a sleep and then thinks stuff this throw out of court Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie wallace Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Dundee United can do one they got awarded the league then voted against reconstruction. There is no way they are going to overturn Dundee Utd's promotion so reconstruction is a must for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo007 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: QC for DUFC/Cove/Raith making the case for arbitration. This SPFL happy to go along with ? . Bore us into submission ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Nae dictaphone?? Use his finger like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Did someone say today is slated to last 2 hours ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Fixtures for Prem announced on Monday at 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, jackal said: Dont think he has Doncasters number. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: No clubs should be backing this. They will if we are in the Championship though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jamboelite said: I dont understand why they would go first surely it would be us or the SPFL and that decision would make the DU redundant or not. Not necessarily. The Dundee Utd motion is to retain their promotion. Even if that is accepted it doesn't effect Hearts who's motion is really all about re-instatement. They could instruct that promotion stands but relegation doesn't. They could also rule that Dundee Utd would have to go to arbitration but our case remains in the COS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I can't get through on the phone, doesn't sound like I'm missing much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Quintessential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, The Frenchman Returns said: Quintessential I noted that. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: Did someone say today is slated to last 2 hours ? Sounding more like a full hearing today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874s_Kin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, jambonian said: Wouldn't have been any need for it in the first place if things had been done correctly. Correctly would've been reconstruction, no Hearts relegated and Dundee Utd and whoever was in second place up. No (major) harm done financially. All it's done has made everyone else turn against Hearts through no fault of our own. A pandemic is a pandemic but unfortunately the clowns that run the game are incompetent fools who don't see the bigger picture. Didn't matter who was bottom, there shouldn't have been relegation unless the League had been finished. We are the laughing stock of Europe but as long as the SPFL are there in their present capacity, Scottish football will continue to be the backwater farce that it is. Nail. On. Head. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixHearts Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 hours in to this bloody phonecall, suppose it's a good time to ask.... How much is this actually costing me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: QC for DUFC/Cove/Raith making the case for arbitration. You expect that is where it will go initially. Dependent on how strong Hesrts, Jags can convince that there are factors that require specialized deliberation and such a move to arbitration would be futile. It really is a disgraceful mess engineered by people that should be absolutely nowhere near the game. A cancer. Doncaster, MacLennan, McKenzie. And certain individuals at other clubs that you cannot stop being involved in the game but they bring only disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, PhoenixHearts said: 2 hours in to this bloody phonecall, suppose it's a good time to ask.... How much is this actually costing me? Thousands!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 has it stopped I went for a barry white and its hung up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanjambo Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, PhoenixHearts said: 2 hours in to this bloody phonecall, suppose it's a good time to ask.... How much is this actually costing me? UK toll, I hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, PhoenixHearts said: 2 hours in to this bloody phonecall, suppose it's a good time to ask.... How much is this actually costing me? Unless you get awarded costs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatsthefuture Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, bobskeldon said: Thousands!! Can’t see this being concluded today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Having lunch now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, PhoenixHearts said: 2 hours in to this bloody phonecall, suppose it's a good time to ask.... How much is this actually costing me? take it up with DU but they might want the SFA to get involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Lunch until 2pm. Looks like this may drag on until Friday. Edited July 1, 2020 by neilnunb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, NANOJAMBO said: Having lunch now. Back 2pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Stopping for lunch until 2. Judge seems to expect this to carry into tomorrow or maybe even Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flecktimus Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Lunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Back at 2pm. If not concluded today, Lord Clark is free from 2pm tomorrow or Friday. Scran time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Its like fairy tale stuff - stop promotion /relegation if another covid 19 outbreak but its ok to do it this year !! have they actually said that out loud and think its reasonable ? I saw a report in the Daily Record the other day where the article clearly stated that due to the fact that less games would be played in the Championship it would be unfair to promote a club and therefore there would be no relegation either. This was/is to be part of the SPFL discussion today. The strange things was that when I copied and pasted the article the part about the number of games etc had miraculouslt fanished. One other poster on here backed me up as he had read the very same thing. It seems that they were either not meant to have published that part or were hastily asked to remove it by someone. All very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-1Jambo Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, jambo007 said: This SPFL happy to go along with ? . Bore us into submission ? SPFL had to be asked at the beginning of proceedings if they supported the DU request for arbitration because they had not filed a request on their submission. Tells you right away how arbitration would go. Judge suggested that there may not be time for arbritation. Lunch now and judge saying this is taking longer than first thought. This is likely to go on all week. DU playing for time in the knowledge that the court doesn't have time. Judge has just said after today he is only available tomorrow afternoon and Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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