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17 minutes ago, The White Cockade said:

Only a matter of time before all games suspended

Strong chance of that but looking at it with a wee bit optimism if we get through the next few weeks the numbers might then start to go down. Surely with more vulnerable people being vaccinated less people will die. Simplistic I know but there is a bit of hope in the medium term.

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16 minutes ago, The White Cockade said:

Only a matter of time before all games suspended

Fair play to the Scottish govt,they are giving it every chance 

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5 minutes ago, colinmorewasgash said:

If Sellick dont win tonight its a nap they will.

After hibs last couple of results everything should be fine 😀

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Lord Beni of Gorgie

Curtailed League programmes are possible. 

 

There will be a finish this time I'm certain. April could see a restart even if there's a need to shut down 

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53 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:


Think you meant definitely rather than potentially😀

 

Appreciate there will be a few thousand here and there for additional match day income but that will be offset by zero match day costs now too. 
 

The smaller clubs are quids in. Assuming the grants have been claimed and distributed of course. 
 

Edit. We’ll soon find out if they’re happy to test or start bleating about being skint!

Yep we will find out their thoughts very soon I’d imagine. 
 

I’ve mentioned it before but it’d be good to here players thought me as well, 

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1 hour ago, John Findlay said:

One good thing about tonight. We will find out if it will be Camelon or Brora Rangers we face in the cup this time next year😉

Lol John, a lot to be said for summer football all of a sudden!!

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3 minutes ago, Sir Gio said:

Curtailed League programmes are possible. 

 

There will be a finish this time I'm certain. April could see a restart even if there's a need to shut down 

Not disagreeing but I think one of the reasons the spfl (or possibly clubs) came up with the last time for not continuing was that players were out of contract and clubs couldn’t afford to renew or extend. Not sure if that would have any impact on our league or if PPV would enable clubs to extend out of contracts players deals. 

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SectionDJambo

What a corrupt shambles Scottish football is.

During the summer, instead of everyone coming together, the clubs chose to be led along a path of self interest and greed by Doncaster and the Celtic cabal. This to the severe detriment of the 3 clubs, and others, for whom no concern was forthcoming as to the financial implications of those 3 clubs.

There were many possible solutions that could have been made to cover all kinds of scenarios to help all of the clubs, but greed, spite and deceit blinded far too many clubs. They followed Doncaster and the cabal down the road of assuming the virus would disappear at their convenience. 

Speaking of that "very able guy", Doncaster. Where is he? Does he still feel delighted and vindicated?

If the SPFL clubs still don't realise that they were used by Doncaster and the Celtic cabal, for their own benefit, then they are more stupid than was obvious during the summer.

It's bad enough what was done to us, what about Partick Thistle? The Scottish sports media should hang their heads in shame at how they joined in with the mob against Hearts, and caused such collateral damage to another fine, old Scottish club. Thistle simply should not have been demoted into such a poorly financed division in the way that they were. Now they have been pushed into a situation they did not deserve to be in.

Will there now be a clamour, from the self interested, stupid clubs and the hard of thinking, frightened press, for the resignations of those who "led" Scottish football to it's current shambles? Will there now be an independent investigation into the governance of Scottish football?

Probably not. 

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7 minutes ago, Alec Eiffel said:

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I am sure the irony of issuing this statement the day after Celtic return from Dubai will be totally lost on these Muppets.

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1 minute ago, SectionDJambo said:

What a corrupt shambles Scottish football is.

During the summer, instead of everyone coming together, the clubs chose to be led along a path of self interest and greed by Doncaster and the Celtic cabal. This to the severe detriment of the 3 clubs, and others, for whom no concern was forthcoming as to the financial implications of those 3 clubs.

There were many possible solutions that could have been made to cover all kinds of scenarios to help all of the clubs, but greed, spite and deceit blinded far too many clubs. They followed Doncaster and the cabal down the road of assuming the virus would disappear at their convenience. 

Speaking of that "very able guy", Doncaster. Where is he? Does he still feel delighted and vindicated?

If the SPFL clubs still don't realise that they were used by Doncaster and the Celtic cabal, for their own benefit, then they are more stupid than was obvious during the summer.

It's bad enough what was done to us, what about Partick Thistle? The Scottish sports media should hang their heads in shame at how they joined in with the mob against Hearts, and caused such collateral damage to another fine, old Scottish club. Thistle simply should not have been demoted into such a poorly financed division in the way that they were. Now they have been pushed into a situation they did not deserve to be in.

Will there now be a clamour, from the self interested, stupid clubs and the hard of thinking, frightened press, for the resignations of those who "led" Scottish football to it's current shambles? Will there now be an independent investigation into the governance of Scottish football?

Probably not. 

 

By my reckoning the following clubs, and quite possibly more, have all suffered directly at the hands of the mhanks :

 

2020
Hearts
Partick Thistle
Stanraer
Kelty Hearts
Brora Rangers
2021
All 10 1st division clubs
All 10 2nd division clubs
Women's football
All clubs still in the Scottish Cup
Hibs
 
These clubs - and just as importantly, their fans, all suffered in the past year so that celtc could get their poxy 8.76 in a row, or now are suffering because they insisted on going on their vainglorious winter piss-up in Dubai.
All of these clubs' rights have been shat upon from a great height and suddenly Doncaster and Co have gone into hiding. He was everywhere when celtc's selfish interests were in question but now he has crawled back under the stone he exists beneath.
It's high time that clubs started getting together to reform the system and ensure these selfish *******s are not allowed to ride roughshod over everyone else for their own exclusive best interests.
IMO Hearts should be leading the way on this
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4 hours ago, johnking123 said:

Its 400 per test per person. Squad of 25 say and add coaches. 17 to 19 games to play still. Will be not far of 200k

NOWHERE NEAR THAT FOR THE TYPE OF TEST BEING PROPOSED...try between £5 and £20 per test

 

Even the other tests are around the £120 mark

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Given the state of play today and the real possibility of that mob calling the leagues again, I think remaining top has even more significance than ever....

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54 minutes ago, The White Cockade said:

Only a matter of time before all games suspended

Why ?

 

There is not even a good reason for the league one and two fixtures being suspended

 

Up until now there have been no major issues with those clubs yet they are being punished

 

In saying that the lack of testing at lower league levels was always going to come back and bite the authorities.....lower than the current league set up would be impossible to test and pay for hence the suspension of lowland league etc is more understandable

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Let's just hope we manage to get 75% of the season played before they shut anything down. If it stopped now I highly doubt they'd do promotion/relegation but I feel there would a much stronger case for reconstruction.

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4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

One club view

 

 

 

Much as I sympathise in general with divs 1 & 2 as they've been made scapegoats for celtc's feck-up just so it looks like the authorities are doing something, didn't Stenhousemuir enthusiastically back celtc/Doncaster's agenda last season?

If so, get it right up them.

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Partick Thistle wants to put on record its support for any measures the Scottish Government puts in place to stop the spread of Covid-19. In the current pandemic, the priority must be on saving lives and protecting the NHS.

But for us as a club, today’s news that all football below the Championship has been shut down is the culmination of a series of circumstances that we, as a board, foretold last April and have fought to avoid ever since.

Once demoted, we fought for a restructure of leagues to allow us, as an ambitious full-time club, to continue playing if football was stopped again. If that had happened, we would still be playing today.

At the season start, the SPFL made it clear that clubs who were unable to play at any point would be penalised. Yet here we are, prepared to play but unable to do so as we are in a league of predominantly part-time clubs. We saw this coming, we raised it – why didn’t the SPFL listen?

We warned last week that the football authorities’ distribution of monies, which penalised Thistle by £350k, could come back to bite us if games were stopped. Less than a week later, here we are without the financial cushion other full-time clubs have been given. We are already looking at furloughing staff and players which is an awful step for a professional club to have to take and could impact our ability to compete when football returns.

The SFA President referenced “notable exceptions” by way of acknowledging that today’s decision may suit part-time teams but not the full-time teams in the leagues being shut down. It’s surely not good enough to recognise that unfairness and simply turn away?

The final straw is the impact that this may have during the transfer window. This may be a three week break but that takes us to the end of the window. Players want to play and uncertainty is not the basis for a move. Where’s the sporting integrity if, once the game restarts, we haven’t been able to strengthen the team to help achieve our aim of promotion?

Partick Thistle’s experience should serve as a lesson to clubs who thought we should take a hit for football with the demotion and suck it up. But it’s now gone way beyond that, enough is enough.

All we want is to be given the same opportunity to play as other full-time clubs. But, once again, we are being pushed to the edge and left to wonder whether anyone in any position of authority in Scottish football will do something to help other than simply issue warm but empty words.

 

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Tom English losing his train of thought and just not quite grasping the differences...poor show Tom

 

Celtic are able to fulfil the fixture so how can you punish them ?

 

The examples of Kilmarnock etc were because they failed to fulfil the fixture unlike Celtic are going to do

 

Tom moaning because Celtic are a big club and so they have an advantage in terms of playing numbers....that's life Tom and you could compare us with a part time side if the situation was the same....a 'big club' has advantages and that is the same in business etc

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Fozzyonthefence

Bravo Partick, excellent statement!  I’ve missed all these statement o’clocks the last few months, often more enjoyable than the football!

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1 minute ago, CJGJ said:

Tom English losing his train of thought and just not quite grasping the differences...poor show Tom

 

Celtic are able to fulfil the fixture so how can you punish them ?

 

The examples of Kilmarnock etc were because they failed to fulfil the fixture unlike Celtic are going to do

 

Tom moaning because Celtic are a big club and so they have an advantage in terms of playing numbers....that's life Tom and you could compare us with a part time side if the situation was the same....a 'big club' has advantages and that is the same in business etc

 

Are you actually taking Celtic's side in all this? Are we to applaud Celtic for having a big squad and bow to the way money ****s the game?

 

Celtic took a huge risk going to Dubai and this game even got moved to accommodate it. It is so very obvious who runs Scottish football.

 

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5 minutes ago, Newton51 said:

Partick Thistle wants to put on record its support for any measures the Scottish Government puts in place to stop the spread of Covid-19. In the current pandemic, the priority must be on saving lives and protecting the NHS.

But for us as a club, today’s news that all football below the Championship has been shut down is the culmination of a series of circumstances that we, as a board, foretold last April and have fought to avoid ever since.

Once demoted, we fought for a restructure of leagues to allow us, as an ambitious full-time club, to continue playing if football was stopped again. If that had happened, we would still be playing today.

At the season start, the SPFL made it clear that clubs who were unable to play at any point would be penalised. Yet here we are, prepared to play but unable to do so as we are in a league of predominantly part-time clubs. We saw this coming, we raised it – why didn’t the SPFL listen?

We warned last week that the football authorities’ distribution of monies, which penalised Thistle by £350k, could come back to bite us if games were stopped. Less than a week later, here we are without the financial cushion other full-time clubs have been given. We are already looking at furloughing staff and players which is an awful step for a professional club to have to take and could impact our ability to compete when football returns.

The SFA President referenced “notable exceptions” by way of acknowledging that today’s decision may suit part-time teams but not the full-time teams in the leagues being shut down. It’s surely not good enough to recognise that unfairness and simply turn away?

The final straw is the impact that this may have during the transfer window. This may be a three week break but that takes us to the end of the window. Players want to play and uncertainty is not the basis for a move. Where’s the sporting integrity if, once the game restarts, we haven’t been able to strengthen the team to help achieve our aim of promotion?

Partick Thistle’s experience should serve as a lesson to clubs who thought we should take a hit for football with the demotion and suck it up. But it’s now gone way beyond that, enough is enough.

All we want is to be given the same opportunity to play as other full-time clubs. But, once again, we are being pushed to the edge and left to wonder whether anyone in any position of authority in Scottish football will do something to help other than simply issue warm but empty words.

 

 

It's alright saying "enough is enough" but it's only words. They really have to be making some inroads into getting a body together to challenge the ruling cabal.

 

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1 minute ago, kila said:

 

 

 

Celtic took a huge risk going to Dubai and this game even got moved to accommodate it. It is so very obvious who runs Scottish football.

 

This.

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3 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

Tom English losing his train of thought and just not quite grasping the differences...poor show Tom

 

Celtic are able to fulfil the fixture so how can you punish them ?

 

The examples of Kilmarnock etc were because they failed to fulfil the fixture unlike Celtic are going to do

 

Tom moaning because Celtic are a big club and so they have an advantage in terms of playing numbers....that's life Tom and you could compare us with a part time side if the situation was the same....a 'big club' has advantages and that is the same in business etc


As admitted by their very own John Kennedy,  Celtic breached Covid protocols. Other clubs are getting punished for not wearing masks in buses, etc so why should Celtic not get punished too?  I’d be amazed if they did but it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t.  

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Hagar the Horrible

Chic asked about Duffy and did not know he was in the team, but did not ask why is he in the team when he got a commercial flight home?  Hibs should be asking questions, that must be a breach

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43 minutes ago, Restonbabe said:

Bbc Scotland right now is brilliant

It is indeed. Henry McLeish has crucified the governance of Scottish football ably backed by Tom English, who has just asked where Neil Doncaster is. Still all these clubs had the chance to change for the better and blew it. You reap what you sow.

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Everyone will be vaccinated by then. Calm down. The height of winter is at its peak now. We all now prey for a mild February and March, so games can get played. 

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22 minutes ago, WDJ87 said:

Let's just hope we manage to get 75% of the season played before they shut anything down. If it stopped now I highly doubt they'd do promotion/relegation but I feel there would a much stronger case for reconstruction.

Agreed, I think if the leagues are indeed called early, reconstruction would seem their only way out this time.

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2 minutes ago, David Black said:

It is indeed. Henry McLeish has crucified the governance of Scottish football ably backed by Tom English, who has just asked where Neil Doncaster is. Still all these clubs had the chance to change for the better and blew it. You reap what you sow.

No one even mentioned or asked about the transfer window for the lower league clubs that are unable to train or play. 

Is it going to be extended for them or what? 

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6 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said:


As admitted by their very own John Kennedy,  Celtic breached Covid protocols. Other clubs are getting punished for not wearing masks in buses, etc so why should Celtic not get punished too?  I’d be amazed if they did but it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t.  

I wish you would try and understand the situation instead of emotion clouding your judgement

 

You cannot punish Celtic for failure to fulfil a fixture...easy to understand I hope (Kilmarnock etc failed to fulfil a fixture so questions need to be answered about that and a possible punishment to follow..note possible not certain)

 

The issue re going to Dubai is a totally separate matter and lots will be said about that but trying to link the two is just wrong and you can hardly blame Celtic for simply being a bigger club with more resources hence having the ability to play tonight

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6 minutes ago, Restonbabe said:

Everyone will be vaccinated by then. Calm down. The height of winter is at its peak now. We all now prey for a mild February and March, so games can get played. 

I'm very calm thanks, and lets hope you are correct.

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9 minutes ago, Restonbabe said:

Everyone will be vaccinated by then. Calm down. The height of winter is at its peak now. We all now prey for a mild February and March, so games can get played. 

By when? Based on current rates I will be vaccinated some point in spring 2022.

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Ironic that Celtic seem to have brought the whole rotten edifice down....Chairmen, CEO's around the country talking about being made scapegoats, victims and paying the ultimate price for the Celtic Middle East extravagance (piss up!)

Well...TOUGH BLOODY LUCK.......Jump into bed with that scum and see where it gets you!

The weak, subservient Chairmen / CEO's who found it easier to sit alongside the most immoral, corrupt club in the history of the Scottish game are now realising that Celtic don't give a s#it for anyone outside their own sleekit, criminal organisation.
Why?...On the promise of this and that...maybe a player on loan, a wee friendly, the promise to pay over the odds when the best fans in the world destroy and defecate on your property. 

The game is well and truly goosed up here....I would even argue that it's not worth saving.....Celtic....The club central to every thing rotten with the Scottish game... If it wasn't for Hearts I would have been done with football years ago.  

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So Celtic **** up, Government step in and ask SFA to investigate, then the SFA do nothing against Celtic and suspend the lower clubs 🤡

 

 

**** SCOTTISH FOOTBALL 

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29 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

One club view

 

 

 

 

 It's a pain when you're s**t on to because of Celtic's actions Ian isn't it. 🖕

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10 minutes ago, Restonbabe said:

Everyone will be vaccinated by then. Calm down. The height of winter is at its peak now. We all now prey for a mild February and March, so games can get played. 

You having a laugh ?  

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2 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

Listening to Sportsound on delay - McLeish didn't  miss a beat. Fantastic speech...

Agreed, Broadfoot tried to interrupt him on a number of occasions 

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