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Space Pirate

We should have just gave Tommy Wright a 1 year rolling contract. 

We're in a relegation battle and we need someone that knows the score and consistently has a team with a budget of pennies punching above their weight. 

 

When a team faces a relegation battle in the english premiership, they don't sign some new guy on the block with an attacking mind set, they sign sam allardyce.

 

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Dunks

No.

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The Roller

I’d rather we were liquidated.

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Jambos_1874

No. TR is fine for a team like St Johnstone; not for us.

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Jamboelite
5 minutes ago, Space Pirate said:

We should have just gave Tommy Wright a 1 year rolling contract. 

We're in a relegation battle and we need someone that knows the score and consistently has a team with a budget of pennies punching above their weight. 

 

When a team faces a relegation battle in the english premiership, they don't sign some new guy on the block with an attacking mind set, they sign sam allardyce.

 

Hahahaha not a ****ing chance.

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kila

I don't think it'd matter who the manager is, the problems we have are deep rooted.

 

In that scenario though, would we still have convinced Boyce? Budge's 1 in 1 out would've still applied and he would've kept Berra on. Maybe could've convinced Kennedy though.

 

 

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Swanny17

Oh FFS.

 

:facepalm:

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ramrod

Holy **** 😂

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Ari Gold

Prefer relegation. 

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Peebo

I think he would have saved us this season. I’m not convinced Stendel will. 

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Coco

Tommy Wright has been a fantastic manager for St Johnstone.  The stick he gets on here is ludicrous.  Alan Preston was saying on the radio that Levein's budget was six times Wright's!

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Space Pirate

I know everyone ****ing hates him but he probably would have steadied the ship and got more out of a team full of underachievers.

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rick witter
4 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said:

No. TR is fine for a team like St Johnstone; not for us.

St Johnstone are a far better team than us. 
What exactly do you mean by a team like St Johnstone as if we are better than them!! 

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Jambof3tornado

Sooner go down with the good ship stendel!!!

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Hairdryer

I would take him now if it was possible 

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Bungle

Go and support St Johnstone then. Call yourself Hearts fans, what a laugh....

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stotty

Main complaint with previous manager was eye bleeding football, I fail to see how Tommy Wright would've addressed those complaints.

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OTT

Ugh.

 

 

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Gards
24 minutes ago, Space Pirate said:

We should have just gave Tommy Wright a 1 year rolling contract. 

We're in a relegation battle and we need someone that knows the score and consistently has a team with a budget of pennies punching above their weight. 

 

When a team faces a relegation battle in the english premiership, they don't sign some new guy on the block with an attacking mind set, they sign sam allardyce.

 

no way

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Space Pirate
1 minute ago, Gards said:

no way

 

Why?

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Jambos_1874
15 minutes ago, rick witter said:

St Johnstone are a far better team than us. 
What exactly do you mean by a team like St Johnstone as if we are better than them!! 

St Johnstone will budget for a mid table finish and say a QF in the cup. Not compatible with what should be the ambitions of a club like Hearts.

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ToqueJambo

There are lots of things we should have done in hindsight - giving Neilson a new 3 year contract and improved transfer kitty for one, appointing Levein as temp caretaker only when he left for another - but hiring Tommy Wright is not one of them.

 

The golden rule for every ambitious manager looking to keep working but who knows they'll never reach the absolute top is to leave when your stock is high. Neilson, Stubbs, Alex Neil, Jack Ross at St Mirren, Steve Clarke all left after a good spell because in the next few months they knew they could easily be sacked and not be in so much demand. So if you get an approach you take it. Some managers keep doing that for a while until they have an inevitable bad few seasons. Mark McGhee was one I remember who did that a bit. Clubs always want to appoint someone on the up.

 

It's noticeable that even though Tommy Wright (and Steve Robinson) have had very good spells, winning a cup in Wright's case, neither seems to be rated highly enough for clubs better than their current ones to actually make a move for them.

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Peebo
10 minutes ago, stotty said:

Main complaint with previous manager was eye bleeding football, I fail to see how Tommy Wright would've addressed those complaints.

Each to their own. My main complaint was the utterly shite results. I don’t go to Hearts games for entertainment, and only care about how competitive we are. 

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Pants Shaton

Get that idea to **** 

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Bull's-eye

Space Cadet strikes again.

 

Good effort tbf.

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vegas-voss

Would probably have us up about 4th or 5th every season but fans would be moaning like **** about it.

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Space Pirate

We all wanting attractive attacking football (well most of us) but Ann left it far too late to get rid of Levein and now we're ****ed. 

Tommy Wright would have been a better option. 

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Lord BJ
25 minutes ago, Coco said:

Tommy Wright has been a fantastic manager for St Johnstone.  The stick he gets on here is ludicrous.  Alan Preston was saying on the radio that Levein's budget was six times Wright's!


This. 

 

16 minutes ago, stotty said:

Main complaint with previous manager was eye bleeding football, I fail to see how Tommy Wright would've addressed those complaints.

 

The main complaint was pish football results. His style of football has little bearing on his employment status.


A strong case could be made that TW would achieved better results than CL or DS have.  
 

Worrying how ‘poor’ managers such as him seem to producing better results than us.  
 

 

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Jim Panzee

Space pirate?

 

space cadet more like...

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Space Pirate
1 minute ago, Jim Panzee said:

Space pirate?

 

space cadet more like...

 

Hilarious, mate. 

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Costanza
26 minutes ago, Coco said:

Tommy Wright has been a fantastic manager for St Johnstone.  The stick he gets on here is ludicrous.  Alan Preston was saying on the radio that Levein's budget was six times Wright's!

Preston pre match was saying that Pereira was 6ft 5" and he couldn't believe how small he made himself look in goal.

Richard Gordon checked and confirmed that he was actually only 6ft 2".

The last reported average wage bills were 48k for St Johnstone and 111k for us.

 

Notwithstanding we are massively underachieving and Wright is a good manager, Preston as far as I'm concerned, is a total slaver.

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Gards
12 minutes ago, Space Pirate said:

 

Why?

Because we would have been better sticking with Levein than Wright,  That's why.

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obua
30 minutes ago, Coco said:

Tommy Wright has been a fantastic manager for St Johnstone.  The stick he gets on here is ludicrous.  Alan Preston was saying on the radio that Levein's budget was six times Wright's!

 

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Nicholas Brody
Just now, Gards said:

Because we would have been better sticking with Levein than Wright,  That's why.

 

I'm so offended by what you just said yet completely agree.

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Jim Panzee
5 minutes ago, Space Pirate said:

 

Hilarious, mate. 

Rather like your suggestion. We have similar senses of humour :)

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Space Pirate
2 minutes ago, Gards said:

Because we would have been better sticking with Levein than Wright,  That's why.

 

They guy that has pished copious amounts of money down the drain?

The guy that gave damour a 4 year contract?

The guy that signed Vanacek then called him rubbish?

 

Away ye go. 

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obua
32 minutes ago, Coco said:

Tommy Wright has been a fantastic manager for St Johnstone.  The stick he gets on here is ludicrous.  Alan Preston was saying on the radio that Levein's budget was six times Wright's!

If Preston told me it was dark outside I would look outside, he’s a slaver

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glynnlondon

TR may not be the right fit for us right enough.

We do seem to have preferred people who could comfortably have us punching below our weight of late.

Over 3 years and money behind us.

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Space Pirate

Preston is a slaver but he's not far off with regards to the wage difference between us and St Johnstone. 

Derek McInnis has came out and said we have a bigger budget than Aberdeen. 

I don't think you realise how much money we've spunked. 

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Zlatanable

I can't be doing with this 'grass is greener' stuff.

 

The Hearts job is huge, more scrutiny, more wages, bigger decisions. 

And comes with big expectations. 

 

We are where we are. No point second guessing stuff. 

 

 

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Peebo
5 minutes ago, obua said:

If Preston told me it was dark outside I would look outside, he’s a slaver

It is dark outside.

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Nicholas Brody
1 minute ago, Space Pirate said:

Preston is a slaver but he's not far off with regards to the wage difference between us and St Johnstone. 

Derek McInnis has came out and said we have a bigger budget than Aberdeen. 

I don't think you realise how much money we've spunked. 

 

I may be wrong, but was the £9 Million he was quoting not the entire staff costs for Hearts? As in everyone employed by Hearts. From cleaners, cooks all the way up to players and directors?

 

Hopefully someone can clear that up.

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gedster
2 minutes ago, Zlatanable said:

I can't be doing with this 'grass is greener' stuff.

 

The Hearts job is huge, more scrutiny, more wages, bigger decisions. 

And comes with big expectations. 

 

We are where we are. No point second guessing stuff. 

 

 

have an experienced manager, good signing policy, direction for what you're trying to achieve on the  pitch and we're easily a mid table team. Not sure we've got those basics at all at the moment

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Jim Panzee
3 minutes ago, Zlatanable said:

I can't be doing with this 'grass is greener' stuff.

 

The Hearts job is huge, more scrutiny, more wages, bigger decisions. 

And comes with big expectations. 

 

We are where we are. No point second guessing stuff. 

 

 

 

Correct. The added factor for prospective managers - can they handle this as well as being a football manager.

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ToqueJambo
2 minutes ago, Space Pirate said:

Preston is a slaver but he's not far off with regards to the wage difference between us and St Johnstone. 

Derek McInnis has came out and said we have a bigger budget than Aberdeen. 

I don't think you realise how much money we've spunked. 

 

Well that's utter bollocks yet again from him! They've had 2-3 times our budget for much of the last 5 years, we're only starting to get close to them these last couple of windows. 

 

Even looking at his own job that's bollocks. Levein was getting what £185k for doing two jobs compared to his £700-900k! McInnes waved cash in front of Nail McGinn, Curtis Main, Matty Kennedy and others to get them when we were interested. Maybe he's sore we pipped him to Boyce.

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SE16 3LN

Wright tells his players to dive, cheat, injure and abuse other players. He'd be happy to ruin someones career if it makes him look good. If you want that at Hearts you can **** off as well.

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Psychedelicropcircle
52 minutes ago, Space Pirate said:

We should have just gave Tommy Wright a 1 year rolling contract. 

We're in a relegation battle and we need someone that knows the score and consistently has a team with a budget of pennies punching above their weight. 

 

When a team faces a relegation battle in the english premiership, they don't sign some new guy on the block with an attacking mind set, they sign sam allardyce.

 

GTF 

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Jamboelite
4 minutes ago, Nicholas Brody said:

 

I may be wrong, but was the £9 Million he was quoting not the entire staff costs for Hearts? As in everyone employed by Hearts. From cleaners, cooks all the way up to players and directors?

 

Hopefully someone can clear that up.

Yes.

 

And Aberdeen have a higher budget than us.

 

I think St Johnstone last time it was discussed has a 3-4m operating cost.

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Finlay James

Seems the wee team are infesting our forum again today 😂😂

 

 

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dc-jambo

In my lifetime, we have never had a manager who has outperformed in the way that TR has done at St Johnstone. People slag him on here because they want ‘glamour’ - well, look where that’s got us 🙁

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