i8hibsh Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Baxfee said: Can’t see him playing again. Real shame - even bigger shame he’s on a long contract as we need wages freed up. Sounds harsh I know but that’s reality No, he will. He will come back and be ****ing outstanding - sadly after he leaves us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Jee said: I'm only telling you what's in the article. Here's another though... https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/17756448.craig-levein-considers-reinforcements-peter-haring-fitness-concern Happy? The crack is if you have to take an injection to play one football match, cup final or not, you're not fit. It was a gamble and it has backfired. Another notch on Craigies belt of failure. Edited February 28, 2020 by Gordon Ramsay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gordon Ramsay said: Another notch on Craigies belt of failure. Mair notches on his belt than Princess Diana had on her bedpost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dia Liom Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Jee said: I'm only telling you what's in the article. Here's another though... https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/17756448.craig-levein-considers-reinforcements-peter-haring-fitness-concern Happy? The crack is if you have to take an injection to play one football match, cup final or not, you're not fit. It was a gamble and it has backfired. Of course it was a risk, the kind that will be taken fairly regularly by managers and players. One that paid off - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/heart_of_midlothian/3683102.stm Your binary method of assessing fitness may be useful in making a point about the decision to play Haring, but is actually complete rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dia Liom said: Of course it was a risk, the kind that will be taken fairly regularly by managers and players. One that paid off - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/heart_of_midlothian/3683102.stm Your binary method of assessing fitness may be useful in making a point about the decision to play Haring, but is actually complete rubbish. Many examples of this being done by many teams . Funny , looking at that team , how many projects , misfits and misshapes it contained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 A real shame for the player. Must be difficult not understanding what the problem is, simply not knowing what the future is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Strained groin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: A real shame for the player. Must be difficult not understanding what the problem is, simply not knowing what the future is I really feel sorry for the lad. I just wish Hearts could find a cure for this problem because there will be a remedy out there some where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyespana Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Sorry to say if there is no improvement by the end of this season we should let the guy go on a free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kdogg Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, grumpyespana said: Sorry to say if there is no improvement by the end of this season we should let the guy go on a free. You mean we should pay up his contract in full and leave another club free to take a chance on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jee Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 49 minutes ago, Dia Liom said: Of course it was a risk, the kind that will be taken fairly regularly by managers and players. One that paid off - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/heart_of_midlothian/3683102.stm Your binary method of assessing fitness may be useful in making a point about the decision to play Haring, but is actually complete rubbish. I'd say if you need pain killing injections in order to play when otherwise you can't do so, you aren't fit, regardless of how prevalent it is. We rolled the dice with him and here we are now. Anyway, I wish big Peter every ounce of luck in getting back onto the pitch 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jee said: I'd say if you need pain killing injections in order to play when otherwise you can't do so, you aren't fit, regardless of how prevalent it is. We rolled the dice with him and here we are now. Anyway, I wish big Peter every ounce of luck in getting back onto the pitch 👍 No argument in theory mate but I think you're failing to grasp how commonplace it is to do that. There are likely to be players on the pitch most weeks with painkillers in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dia Liom Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jee said: Anyway, I wish big Peter every ounce of luck in getting back onto the pitch 👍 Me too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, TheBigO said: No argument in theory mate but I think you're failing to grasp how commonplace it is to do that. There are likely to be players on the pitch most weeks with painkillers in them. As we move into March, I would suggest that all players play with some sort of painkiller to get them through games. My eldest lad suffered cruciate ligament damage and even after months of physiotherapy at BUPA he was unable to play without being topped up with Ibuprofen. After a season he had to retire due to severe knee pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jee Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, TheBigO said: No argument in theory mate but I think you're failing to grasp how commonplace it is to do that. There are likely to be players on the pitch most weeks with painkillers in them. Fair enough, I probably don't realise how common it is. Do you mean by taking tablets or by injection, which to me seems like the extreme end of the scale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, The Kdogg said: You mean we should pay up his contract in full and leave another club free to take a chance on him Like Chris Shevlane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, The Kdogg said: You mean we should pay up his contract in full and leave another club free to take a chance on him A contract eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Jee said: I'd say if you need pain killing injections in order to play when otherwise you can't do so, you aren't fit, regardless of how prevalent it is. We rolled the dice with him and here we are now. Anyway, I wish big Peter every ounce of luck in getting back onto the pitch 👍 3 hours ago, Dia Liom said: Of course it was a risk, the kind that will be taken fairly regularly by managers and players. One that paid off - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/heart_of_midlothian/3683102.stm Your binary method of assessing fitness may be useful in making a point about the decision to play Haring, but is actually complete rubbish. Have to agree dia liom here it is fairly common practice tbh. I had a conversation with wee Robbo and he was telling the story of the "Wayne Foster " derby. Robbo shouldn't have been playing that day, he had a pain killing injection under the proviso he was only to play 30 minutes. He started, he scored and he was kept on much longer than was agreed upon. Thankfully Fozzie scored the winner that day but shows that it's not uncommon and certainly not a new thing to give players injections to get them through big games they otherwise may miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Baxfee said: Can’t see him playing again. Real shame - even bigger shame he’s on a long contract as we need wages freed up. Sounds harsh I know but that’s reality I think insurance would cover that eventually, Bax. Hopefully it won't come to that and Peter's issue can be sorted, but pretty sure neither Hearts nor Peter would take a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessjambo67 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 6 hours ago, TheBigO said: While I don't know it not to be the case, I doubt you do know that to be the case, so not sure we should be stating as fact that playing in the final has exacerbated the injury to this level. I don't think Levein and his team handled injuries well, but I don't think we can levvy ruining a guy's career at him unless we know that for certain. I feel heart sorry for Peter - such a good player and seems a top lad too. Feel heart sorry for us too! Our biggest issue especially of late has been a midfielder who takes responsibility and that's him to a tee. A far too sensible reply /post for this forum surly . You talk far to much sense 😜😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WASTREL Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 49 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Like Chris Shevlane. I believe we were fitted up by Celtic on that one as Shevlane was like a new player after leaving us compared to his last few performances for us before decaring himself unfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, Nessjambo67 said: A far too sensible reply /post for this forum surly . You talk far to much sense 😜😜 Aw shucks! Clock right twice a day n aw that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kdogg Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: A contract eh Indeed. I’ve heard they can be lucrative. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kdogg Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: Like Chris Shevlane. I’ll admit I had to google him. And still no clue about the reference. Must be for the chaps of a certain vintage. Played 100 odd games. Be happy if Haring gets close to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 His health is the most important thing. Look at Ted McMinn ffs cortisone injections in his legs before every game, now he's got nae legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Gordon Ramsay said: Another notch on Craigies belt of failure. People are always right with hindsight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 51 minutes ago, Disco Ball said: I believe we were fitted up by Celtic on that one as Shevlane was like a new player after leaving us compared to his last few performances for us before decaring himself unfit. That’s the story that went about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, The Kdogg said: I’ll admit I had to google him. And still no clue about the reference. Must be for the chaps of a certain vintage. Played 100 odd games. Be happy if Haring gets close to that Seriously injured so released to instantly get fit and sign for Celtic then Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 hours ago, mitch41 said: I really feel sorry for the lad. I just wish Hearts could find a cure for this problem because there will be a remedy out there some where. It's not as if we are not and have not spent time and money to find a solution It's just one of these things that might just be cured with a piece of luck but in our position lady luck has gone missing this season He has been to top class experts in the field to no avail but still some want to have a go at the club based on other posts prior to yours He is not the first and won't be the last to play with an injection...Virgil van Dijk did so for a few weeks for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 02/02/2020 at 23:45, Cade said: Just another permanently crocked waste of time Levein brought in. Good player when fit but never fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: Seriously injured so released to instantly get fit and sign for Celtic then Hibs. Didn't play much for Celtic . 2-4 games depending what source you use . Great player for us , I've no doubt he'd have been a full international playing for the OF . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kdogg Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: Seriously injured so released to instantly get fit and sign for Celtic then Hibs. Ahh ok. Miraculous recovery from the charlatan. Didn’t manage many appearances for either though. Clearly a terrible human being all the same. What a fall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Think it’s game over for him. Won’t see him play again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Jee said: I'm only telling you what's in the article. Here's another though... https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/17756448.craig-levein-considers-reinforcements-peter-haring-fitness-concern Happy? The crack is if you have to take an injection to play one football match, cup final or not, you're not fit. It was a gamble and it has backfired. Football is littered with stories of players who voluntarily played through pain for their club. Haring would have been consulted on how fit he felt for the cup final. And his presence undoubtedly helped us stay in the game for 80 minutes, considering they scored just after he went off. Feel very sorry for him, and it's symptomatic of our bad luck with injuries over the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Football is littered with stories of players who voluntarily played through pain for their club. Haring would have been consulted on how fit he felt for the cup final. And his presence undoubtedly helped us stay in the game for 80 minutes, considering they scored just after he went off. Feel very sorry for him, and it's symptomatic of our bad luck with injuries over the last year. You are correct but it does not meet the narrative that Jee wants to deliver Posters like him will go on and on about the injury when they have no medical knowledge and blame the man they want to take it out on I knew he was not 100% fit as did the vast majority of fans and of them the vast majority wanted him to play as he did. That risk almost won us the cup and had we done so we would not hear a peep from him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 6 hours ago, grumpyespana said: Sorry to say if there is no improvement by the end of this season we should let the guy go on a free. Not if doctors say he's on the road to recovery. Darren Fletcher was out for the best part of 2 years and Man Utd stuck by him. Haring has been out for 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, CJGJ said: You are correct but it does not meet the narrative that Jee wants to deliver Posters like him will go on and on about the injury when they have no medical knowledge and blame the man they want to take it out on I knew he was not 100% fit as did the vast majority of fans and of them the vast majority wanted him to play as he did. That risk almost won us the cup and had we done so we would not hear a peep from him He was all over the papers saying how much he wanted to play in his first cup final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodLord Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 10 hours ago, i8hibsh said: Mair notches on his belt than Princess Diana had on her bedpost. Is that supposed to be funny or edgy? Fails miserably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Not if doctors say he's on the road to recovery. Darren Fletcher was out for the best part of 2 years and Man Utd stuck by him. Haring has been out for 6 months. Haring has hardly kicked a ball since the cup final last May so hardly six months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, wavydavy said: Haring has hardly kicked a ball since the cup final last May so hardly six months. I wasn’t counting the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: I wasn’t counting the summer Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Not if doctors say he's on the road to recovery. Darren Fletcher was out for the best part of 2 years and Man Utd stuck by him. Haring has been out for 6 months. Darren Fletcher wasn't injured though, he had an illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 As other have said, players have came back from worse. Fingers crossed as Haring is one of the few players I'd like to see kept on. I'm sure everyone slating the decision to play him in the final was also against Beattie playing in the semi Vs Celtic? As for his wages/contract, with absolutely no knowledge of how these things work I'd be surprised if insurance doesn't kick in at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, wavydavy said: Haring has hardly kicked a ball since the cup final last May so hardly six months. Less than a year but not 2 years ? Ok then 9 months ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 5 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Not if doctors say he's on the road to recovery. Darren Fletcher was out for the best part of 2 years and Man Utd stuck by him. Haring has been out for 6 months. Not if doctors say he's on the road to recovery. ...is that what they're saying ? Darren Fletcher was out for the best part of 2 years and Man Utd stuck by him....you obviously have no clue hat Fletcher suffers from a debilitating illness. Haring has been out for 6 months.....that's not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorinoJambo Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 17 hours ago, davemclaren said: Like Chris Shevlane. Christ, that wisny yesterday😄😄😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 8 hours ago, johnthomas said: Less than a year but not 2 years ? Ok then 9 months ! Who said anything about 2 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, wavydavy said: Who said anything about 2 years? Toque jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, johnthomas said: Toque jambo He was talking about Darren Fletcher though was he not? and the Club supporting him through his illness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Michael Smith posted an Insta story of Haring running in a pool today. No idea if he's been doing this kind of lower impact training throughout or if this is progress but definite evidence he's still alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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