It should have been ten Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Cade said: Just another permanently crocked waste of time Levein brought in. Good player when fit but never fit. Aye ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 56 minutes ago, Tyniestemper said: He spoke well yesterday at the plot ceremony. Seems genuinely gutted that he can’t play at the moment. Doesn’t sound like he is due back soon but he spent time with all the fans getting pictures and Chatting. Michael Smith was also there, another lovely guy. He’s due back Saturday but slim possibility for Wednesday. Stendel won’t start players who aren’t 100% fit. He joked about how Sean Clare has nicked his position at RB. Said he likes Centre mid anyway. Said they enjoy training with Stendel, commented on how much energy and enthusiasm Stendel brings. Also said he wasn’t aware of any moves for him in the window and he’s quite happy at Hearts. He started Sibbick and I'm not sure he is 100% fit. Not that I am complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I feel for him, and me missing him as a player and being annoyed by it is nothing to how he will be missing it and annoyed. Sadly, it is now just a case of running down his contract as he will not play for us again imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Cade said: Just another permanently crocked waste of time Levein brought in. Good player when fit but never fit. If Levein hadn't continued to play him when injured he may never had been out so long. I know ultimately the player could have refused to play but then how would that have gone down with his manager? He could easily have had his hernia op in the winter shutdown and maybe missed a month but instead Levein encourages him to play and could possibly have ended the guys career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyniestemper Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, wavydavy said: He started Sibbick and I'm not sure he is 100% fit. Not that I am complaining. I think it’s more the ones carrying injuries he won’t play (who would probably have been played under the previous regime) primarily because they won’t manage the speed and style of Stendel’s play but also to stop them risking worse injuries). Edited February 3, 2020 by Tyniestemper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, wavydavy said: If Levein hadn't continued to play him when injured he may never had been out so long. I know ultimately the player could have refused to play but then how would that have gone down with his manager? He could easily have had his hernia op in the winter shutdown and maybe missed a month but instead Levein encourages him to play and could possibly have ended the guys career. You just made that bit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, wavydavy said: If Levein hadn't continued to play him when injured he may never had been out so long. I know ultimately the player could have refused to play but then how would that have gone down with his manager? He could easily have had his hernia op in the winter shutdown and maybe missed a month but instead Levein encourages him to play and could possibly have ended the guys career. He is not out because of the hernia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1874 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Think he is our third most talented player after Souttar and Naismith. Not a chance we would be 11th if he was fit. Fingers crossed he gets fit next year and is back to his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Cade said: Just another permanently crocked waste of time Levein brought in. Good player when fit but never fit. What a lot of shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVodka Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Barack said: I am though. Had one, got infected, now I'm in hospital again. Yay! As for Haring, he's just seemingly been incredibly unlucky in what the diagnosis & recovery is for his actual underlying condition. Would love to see him return. Been there Mr Obama - not so nice. Wish you a speedy recovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVodka Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Barack said: Thanks, bud. I've got Pancreatitis. Whether it's related or not, still finding out. The infection is now secondary, but healing well. 2020, eh. Good job Hearts can cheer me up... Nightmare. I remember having to take a lot of metronidazole. Makes you feel even more tam kite than you already are for a few days 2020 will be much better than 2019 at Tynecastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 We have some absolute twats claiming to support us.. we miss Haring hugely.. fingers crossed he can get back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, Barack said: Thanks, bud. I've got Pancreatitis. Whether it's related or not, still finding out. The infection is now secondary, but healing well. 2020, eh. Good job Hearts can cheer me up... The wife had that a number of years ago. Although she was in agony initially she made a full recovery. She barely drinks alcohol but I’m not sure the hospital staff were convinced because that can kick it off. Get well soon and take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, wavydavy said: If Levein hadn't continued to play him when injured he may never had been out so long. I know ultimately the player could have refused to play but then how would that have gone down with his manager? He could easily have had his hernia op in the winter shutdown and maybe missed a month but instead Levein encourages him to play and could possibly have ended the guys career. If his career is finished the poor handling of his injury and treatment could well see us in court, tragedy for him as he’s a great player and a good guy. Hopefully he can make a comeback and get it sorted somehow. The horrible irony is the CL might’ve won a trophy if he had stayed on in May, Berra only came forward to win the header because he was off. Edited February 3, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertonian_II Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Cade said: 37 appearances since June 2018. How many appearances has Naismith made in the same period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I hope to see Haring back but I think it will be next season now and it will be like having a new player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Libertonian_II said: How many appearances has Naismith made in the same period? I make it 40 games and has scored 19 goals and was our top scorer and player of the year last season. Are you suggesting he's another crock and waste of time? Or are you pointing out that Haring could be just as important a player for us? Edit: Looks like it's the latter and you were having a go at the other poster. Edited February 3, 2020 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: We have some absolute twats claiming to support us.. we miss Haring hugely.. fingers crossed he can get back Agreed but surely you understand the frustrations? For years we have been paying out more than we get back from most players. That been said this is clearly not Haring's fault and he gave his all every game so for ne me has earned my pateince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertonian_II Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, graygo said: I make it 40 games and has scored 19 goals and was our top scorer and player of the year last season. Are you suggesting he's another crock and waste of time? Or are you pointing out that Haring could be just as important a player for us? Edit: Looks like it's the latter and you were having a go at the other poster. I was indeed🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Barack said: Thanks, bud. I've got Pancreatitis. Whether it's related or not, still finding out. The infection is now secondary, but healing well. 2020, eh. Good job Hearts can cheer me up... Is it eyebleedingly painful ? Asking for a friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Barack said: I am though. Had one, got infected, now I'm in hospital again. Yay! As for Haring, he's just seemingly been incredibly unlucky in what the diagnosis & recovery is for his actual underlying condition. Would love to see him return. Hope it clears up soon, Barrack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Just now, Noah Claypole said: Is it eyebleedingly painful ? Asking for a friend. It's the worst pain I've experienced. I had to stop drinking because of it and ended up developing diabetes. It can be very serious and I pity anyone who suffers from it. That's not what PH has is it ? 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Haring is absolute quality. I'd like to see us explore the Austrian market for players more often. Its horrible to see. I don't want to speculate the impact of the final on him. As others have said Aguiar came back after 18 months. Just need to keep the faith with Haring at the moment. There must be hip specialists that the top clubs use. I mean, I can't imagine Manchester Utd allowing Matic to have to rely on faith to get better. Hopefully he gets a run out at least at the end of the season. Bloody shame for the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 9 hours ago, Taffin said: I really like Hearing and desperately hope he can get his career back on track but I'm not sure how you arrive at the bit in bold above. Hasn't played in months, no clear date of return and rumours of retirement...think he sort of fits crock down to a tee as much of a shame as that is. Was he crocked when he got here. No. Did his previous playing history suggest that he was injury prone. No. He got injured while with us and that is life Someone like Walker or Naismith (great player) we’re more ‘crock’ signings due to their injury record before the came to us. We’ve signed them gambling in their ability to stay fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 6 hours ago, graygo said: You just made that bit up. The fact that Haring continued to be played with his hernia issue has bound to have an adverse effect on him. You don't need to have any medical qualifications to know that. The normal recvovery time is generally not that long for fit footballers so my estimate of a month was over and above the winter shut down which does not seem unreasonable. Did you think it was a good thing continuing to play him whilst requiring a hernia operation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, wavydavy said: The fact that Haring continued to be played with his hernia issue has bound to have an adverse effect on him. You don't need to have any medical qualifications to know that. The normal recvovery time is generally not that long for fit footballers so my estimate of a month was over and above the winter shut down which does not seem unreasonable. Did you think it was a good thing continuing to play him whilst requiring a hernia operation? It’s not that unusual for players to play with hernias. Is that connected to his current issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, merseyjambo said: Was he crocked when he got here. No. Did his previous playing history suggest that he was injury prone. No. He got injured while with us and that is life Someone like Walker or Naismith (great player) we’re more ‘crock’ signings due to their injury record before the came to us. We’ve signed them gambling in their ability to stay fit. Yeh that's fair. I didn't pick up what you were saying correctly sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, davemclaren said: It’s not that unusual for players to play with hernias. Is that connected to his current issue? Apparently so. He played for months knowing he required surgery and has had issues in the pelvic area since the operation. The report I read about him said he had seen another specialist and he recommended total rest with no training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1964m Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I would love to see him again in a hearts jersey at Tynie but what I’ve heard does not sound promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 What Haring needs to know is that we are all right behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 20 hours ago, gjcc said: Absolutely. Knowingly put himself at risk by playing with a hernia because we couldn’t afford for him to be out injured. this. just hope he gets back to fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John mcCartney Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, 4marsbars said: What Haring needs to know is that we are all right behind him. yep lets get it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 hours ago, merseyjambo said: Was he crocked when he got here. No. Did his previous playing history suggest that he was injury prone. No. He got injured while with us and that is life Someone like Walker or Naismith (great player) we’re more ‘crock’ signings due to their injury record before the came to us. We’ve signed them gambling in their ability to stay fit. Arrived with a hernia needing attention. Should have been straight forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Still don’t understand why the club haven’t commented more on his injury. It would stop people making up shite if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Peter Haring sent to another specialist as Hearts wonder when he will return Exact cause of Austrian midfielder’s pain difficult to diagnose By Barry Anderson Friday, 28th February 2020, 6:10 am Hearts midfielder Peter Haring will visit another medical specialist next week, with manager Daniel Stendel admitting no-one knows why he is still in pain and unable to train. Officials at the Edinburgh club are growing increasingly concerned about Haring’s prolonged recovery from an injury in the groin/pelvic area. He has not played at all this season and was ordered by doctors in January to rest until discomfort subsided. However, the ongoing pain remains an issue Hearts cannot get to the bottom of. The 26-year-old is to see a specialist next week in the hope of unearthing the root cause of a problem which has sidelined him since the Scottish Cup final in May last year. He underwent double hernia surgery in December 2018 and managed to play 11 times during the second half of last season, but has not been available since. Stendel told the Evening News: “Nobody can say: ‘This is the answer, this is the reason, this is the plan.’ Peter has done a lot of things, we tried a lot of things with him for him to come back really quick, but the reality is not like this. “He is still feeling pain and he cannot train. We wonder when he can train in the next couple of weeks. “The difficult thing with his injury is nobody can say: ‘This is the reason and when we do this, he can train tomorrow.’ It is hard for his head, it is hard for the team and for everyone but this is the situation. “He has an appointment next week and maybe after this appointment we will know more from the doctor.” Hearts are determined to give Haring as much time and support as he needs to recover. He is seen as an important part of the team even though he has yet to play under Stendel, who only took over as manager last December. The Austrian’s contract at Tynecastle Park runs until summer 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I know this has been mentioned before but I wonder if his problem could be similar to Micky Cameron's. He had pelvic issues and could not get to the bottom of the cause until he saw someone in France I think it might have been who said his jaw was malaligned and had a brace made which he wore and the problem was solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jee Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 He took an injection to play in the cup final when he and Levein knew it could set him back. I hope missing an entire season and potentially being retired at 26 was worth it. Gutted for the guy, he's a good player and put his body on the line but perhaps he needed protecting from himself? Shite situation anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jee said: He took an injection to play in the cup final when he and Levein knew it could set him back. I hope missing an entire season and potentially being retired at 26 was worth it. Gutted for the guy, he's a good player and put his body on the line but perhaps he needed protecting from himself? Shite situation anyway. While I don't know it not to be the case, I doubt you do know that to be the case, so not sure we should be stating as fact that playing in the final has exacerbated the injury to this level. I don't think Levein and his team handled injuries well, but I don't think we can levvy ruining a guy's career at him unless we know that for certain. I feel heart sorry for Peter - such a good player and seems a top lad too. Feel heart sorry for us too! Our biggest issue especially of late has been a midfielder who takes responsibility and that's him to a tee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jee Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheBigO said: While I don't know it not to be the case, I doubt you do know that to be the case, so not sure we should be stating as fact that playing in the final has exacerbated the injury to this level. I don't think Levein and his team handled injuries well, but I don't think we can levvy ruining a guy's career at him unless we know that for certain. I feel heart sorry for Peter - such a good player and seems a top lad too. Feel heart sorry for us too! Our biggest issue especially of late has been a midfielder who takes responsibility and that's him to a tee. I read it here. https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/peter-haring-no-regrets-taking-16987109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jee said: He took an injection to play in the cup final when he and Levein knew it could set him back. I hope missing an entire season and potentially being retired at 26 was worth it. Gutted for the guy, he's a good player and put his body on the line but perhaps he needed protecting from himself? Shite situation anyway. Do you actually believe if anyone had thought this would be the outcome he'd have played in the final ? Many players (more than we know maybe?) take chances with injuries in one off games . Many get away with it . Hopefully they get to the bottom of his problem . Cameron's solution was a gum shield . Fraser Wishart had a problem most of his career it was finally solved with a special insole . I'd assume various specialists have looked at these kind of solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 If they don't get to the bottom of this sooner rather than later, it doesn't look good for big Pete. Such a shame for the guy and a big loss for us. Players have come back from very severe injuries though, so here is hoping it happens for Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 51 minutes ago, Jee said: He took an injection to play in the cup final when he and Levein knew it could set him back. I hope missing an entire season and potentially being retired at 26 was worth it. Gutted for the guy, he's a good player and put his body on the line but perhaps he needed protecting from himself? Shite situation anyway. 28 minutes ago, Jee said: I read it here. https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/peter-haring-no-regrets-taking-16987109 From that story: “First of all, I got an injection last season, before we played the cup final against Celtic,” he told Hearts TV. “After that I felt really good. There was no pain at all so I said that I was fit and I want to play that game. It was not really like the gaffer rushed me to play or anything like that. I was really comfortable with my body and I felt fine to play the game. That’s why I played. If I would’ve felt that I couldn’t help the team because I was sore then I wouldn’t have played. It was the first cup final in my life and it was an experience that nobody can take away from me." I'm really struggling to see how you interpreted that as he and Levein knew it could set him back. But hey it's another nice looking stick, why not beat someone with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jee Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Saint Jambo said: From that story: “First of all, I got an injection last season, before we played the cup final against Celtic,” he told Hearts TV. “After that I felt really good. There was no pain at all so I said that I was fit and I want to play that game. It was not really like the gaffer rushed me to play or anything like that. I was really comfortable with my body and I felt fine to play the game. That’s why I played. If I would’ve felt that I couldn’t help the team because I was sore then I wouldn’t have played. It was the first cup final in my life and it was an experience that nobody can take away from me." I'm really struggling to see how you interpreted that as he and Levein knew it could set him back. But hey it's another nice looking stick, why not beat someone with it. From the very same article. Quote Manager Craig Levein admitted it was a risk to play Haring knowing he could be without him for the start of this campaign as a result. Nice try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jee said: From the very same article. Nice try though. You got a quote for that so we can see what Levein actually said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, weehammy said: He needs to prioritise having a pain free life outside of football if the worst comes to the worst. Maybe he shouldn't be coming along to watch Hearts games then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Can’t see him playing again. Real shame - even bigger shame he’s on a long contract as we need wages freed up. Sounds harsh I know but that’s reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: Maybe he shouldn't be coming along to watch Hearts games then Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jee Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said: You got a quote for that so we can see what Levein actually said? I'm only telling you what's in the article. Here's another though... https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/17756448.craig-levein-considers-reinforcements-peter-haring-fitness-concern Quote Levein said: "Peter is progressing, but slowly. I knew I was taking a bit of a risk by playing him in the Scottish Cup final but I thought it would settle down over the summer; however, he still feels something and we are taking a wee backwards step before we push on again. Happy? The crack is if you have to take an injection to play one football match, cup final or not, you're not fit. It was a gamble and it has backfired. Edited February 28, 2020 by Jee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, karipidis said: Why not? Because it's painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Dr Hans-Wilhelm Müller-Wohlfahrt is the man. An injection of goat's blood should do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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