Victorian Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, fancy a brew said: Did you have a 'Yoony' experience? Being angry at young people for wanting to act like young people (when cases were comparatively low) comes across as a bit bitter. Bitter. No. Just expecting a bit of reasonable responsibility and cooperation from people. Nothing bitter about it. Maybe the universities or the government were partly to blame but we're not in normal times here. Whatabouttery about young people just being young people doesn't cut it. Maybe people should think twice about simply making excuses for everything and start expecting more from people. Even young people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: There were ofcourse the usual toffs whom I steered clear off 😂😂there were only a handful of working class students in my year . Probably even less now I guess You missed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Scottish numbers: 12 November 2020 Summary 1,212 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-49] 45 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [-19] 98 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+5] 1,207 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-28] 22,883 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 6.1% of these were positive [+787; -0.4%] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Per-board per 100,000 case stats: Scotland 22 [-1]. Greater Glasgow 40 [-1], Lanarkshire 35 [-6], Ayrshire 21 [-1], Fife 20 [+2]. Tayside 17 [=], Borders 16 [+11], Lothian 16 [=], Dumfries & Galloway 12 [+4], Forth Valley 10 [-8]. All others: less than 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said: Especially the ones with posh sounding names. Extra boooos for that lot. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, fancy a brew said: Did you have a 'Yoony' experience? Being angry at young people for wanting to act like young people (when cases were comparatively low) comes across as a bit bitter. Personally think it comes over as bitter, jealous and vindictive. Pli think we should blame golf clubs and the toffs who go there. Seems like no social distancing going on when either playing of socialising afterwards. See plenty of them at Swanton, Braids and Mortonhall and they are just doing as they please. Boo the golfers, hurray the students. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Personally think it comes over as bitter, jealous and vindictive. Pli think we should blame golf clubs and the toffs who go there. Seems like no social distancing going on when either playing of socialising afterwards. See plenty of them at Swanton, Braids and Mortonhall and they are just doing as they please. Boo the golfers, hurray the students. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said: You missed out. Always the dirtiest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Victorian said: Bitter. No. Just expecting a bit of reasonable responsibility and cooperation from people. Nothing bitter about it. Maybe the universities or the government were partly to blame but we're not in normal times here. Whatabouttery about young people just being young people doesn't cut it. Maybe people should think twice about simply making excuses for everything and start expecting more from people. Even young people. Who’s making excuses? Sounds like you are desperate to find a scapegoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Personally think it comes over as bitter, jealous and vindictive. Pli think we should blame golf clubs and the toffs who go there. Seems like no social distancing going on when either playing of socialising afterwards. See plenty of them at Swanton, Braids and Mortonhall and they are just doing as they please. Boo the golfers, hurray the students. The worst of the worst imo https://www.eusu.ed.ac.uk/organisation/golf/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, westbow said: Who’s making excuses? Sounds like you are desperate to find a scapegoat. No scapegoating going on but fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Personally think it comes over as bitter, jealous and vindictive. Pli think we should blame golf clubs and the toffs who go there. Seems like no social distancing going on when either playing of socialising afterwards. See plenty of them at Swanton, Braids and Mortonhall and they are just doing as they please. Boo the golfers, hurray the students. What are the toffs doing at these golf courses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 No amount of ridicule can explain the contradiction of demanding the governments get everything right but don't give a shit about personal sacrifices and responsibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Ffs. Horrible Uk figures today. How can it be so high. Is it a temporary blip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, coconut doug said: What are the toffs doing at these golf courses? Playing golf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Ffs. Horrible Uk figures today. How can it be so high. Is it a temporary blip? Have they ramped up the testing? They've got a few things that a large number of cases might justify. Edit: 377,608 tests. Highest number ever, take what you like from that. Edited November 12, 2020 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, graygo said: Have they ramped up the testing? They've got a few things that a large number of cases might justify. Never thought about that. Just got the news alert and immediately got on kickback to find out the facts 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, GinRummy said: Never thought about that. Just got the news alert and immediately got on kickback to find out the facts 😀 Missed my edit. 377,608 tests. Highest number ever, take what you like from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Victorian said: No amount of ridicule can explain the contradiction of demanding the governments get everything right but don't give a shit about personal sacrifices and responsibilities. Realistically they can’t get everything right. Preserve the economy and save lives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, graygo said: Missed my edit. 377,608 tests. Highest number ever, take what you like from that. That’s a lot of tests. Surely if they can keep those figures up it will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, GinRummy said: That’s a lot of tests. Surely if they can keep those figures up it will help. It'll help get closer to the true amount which must be way higher than that when you think how many asymptomatic cases never get tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GinRummy said: That’s a lot of tests. Surely if they can keep those figures up it will help. Maybe. The rate of compliance to self isolate is what would help. Wasn't it estimated to be about 20% recently? Mass testing is great but less so if people don't isolate after a positive test. Mind you, maybe that's just another personal responsibility to not give a shit about. Edited November 12, 2020 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, Victorian said: Maybe. The rate of compliance to self isolate is what would help. Wasn't it estimated to be about 20% recently. Mass testing is great but less so if people don't isolate after a positive test. Mind you, maybe that's just another personal responsibility to not give a shit about. What group of people are you accusing of not self isolating after positive test. Only example in Scotland I can recall is the MP, and even then, she was in London at the time. Boo the MP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, Malinga the Swinga said: What group of people are you accusing of not self isolating after positive test. Only example in Scotland I can recall is the MP, and even then, she was in London at the time. Boo the MP's. The answer was in the post you quoted. There was a recent estimate that a very low percentage were bothering to self isolate. I think it was 20% or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: What group of people are you accusing of not self isolating after positive test. Only example in Scotland I can recall is the MP, and even then, she was in London at the time. Boo the MP's. Boo the MP's that went to university and play golf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Victorian said: No amount of ridicule can explain the contradiction of demanding the governments get everything right but don't give a shit about personal sacrifices and responsibilities. I’ve previously stated that due to it being a novel virus, governments cannot be blamed for best efforts, saying that, they are not immune from criticism either. Personal responsibility cuts across profession, race, age and so on. No particular group should be lumbered with the guilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Victorian said: The answer was in the post you quoted. There was a recent estimate that a very low percentage were bothering to self isolate. I think it was 20% or so. Only 18% of people self-isolate after developing coronavirus symptoms, UK study finds Research also shows just 11% of people in contact with those testing positive stay at home for 14 days https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-self-isolation-uk-rules-symptoms-police-fines-b594240.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, Victorian said: No scapegoating going on but fair enough. Ok, fair dues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, graygo said: Boo the MP's that went to university and play golf. Especially the toffs, even the dirty ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, westbow said: I’ve previously stated that due to it being a novel virus, governments cannot be blamed for best efforts, saying that, they are not immune from criticism either. Personal responsibility cuts across profession, race, age and so on. No particular group should be lumbered with the guilt. Agreed. But more is better. Absolving of guilt is interesting though. Should we not encourage a culture where, to avoid guilt or blame, one should pull one's weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, coconut doug said: What are the toffs doing at these golf courses? Shooting grouse in the heavy rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, redjambo said: Only 18% of people self-isolate after developing coronavirus symptoms, UK study finds Research also shows just 11% of people in contact with those testing positive stay at home for 14 days https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-self-isolation-uk-rules-symptoms-police-fines-b594240.html That's shocking tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Shooting grouse in the heavy rough. Pheasants 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, graygo said: That's shocking tbf. Is it? If you don’t get paid, what is the surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Pheasants 👍 I was originally going to post a play on pheasant/peasants, but thought better of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: I was originally going to post a play on pheasant/peasants, but thought better of it. You wouldn't believe the difference in taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Is it? If you don’t get paid, what is the surprise? The number is shocking, the reason for it is another matter that needs addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Tier 4 for Glasgow and other areas of the west next week? That's what people on here were choking for. Get them into tier 4... and if they break the rules then good on 'em. It's to be expected. Amirite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: I was originally going to post a play on pheasant/peasants, but thought better of it. Very plucky of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Victorian said: Tier 4 for Glasgow and other areas of the west next week? That's what people on here were choking for. Get them into tier 4... and if they break the rules then good on 'em. It's to be expected. Amirite? Just seen this on the news... why if the numbers are very very slightly dropping going by previous posts are they going to wait till next week to put them up a tier If they were going to do that it should have been done as soon as this tier system was brought in surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, graygo said: The number is shocking, the reason for it is another matter that needs addressed. Perhaps there should be a “furlough fund” that the self employed could access at their own request . Say I had to isolate for 2 weeks, through this I have cost the govt £0. so if told to isolate I can access the 7 months of £2500 that others have had. ie I now have a fund of > £15000 I can tap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: You wouldn't believe the difference in taste. I thought the both taste like chicken. Maybe I've got covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, theshed said: Just seen this on the news... why if the numbers are very very slightly dropping going by previous posts are they going to wait till next week to put them up a tier If they were going to do that it should have been done as soon as this tier system was brought in surely? They say they've got a number of measures to determine the tiers. It's not as simple as the headline rates and levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, redjambo said: Very plucky of you. No need to grouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 NHS in various regions are now starting to cut right back on routine care services. Some of it very important care. It's almost as if it was a good idea to try to limit the volume of covid they get day on day or week on week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Perhaps there should be a “furlough fund” that the self employed could access at their own request . Say I had to isolate for 2 weeks, through this I have cost the govt £0. so if told to isolate I can access the 7 months of £2500 that others have had. ie I now have a fund of > £15000 I can tap That's not going to cover 2 weeks money though is it? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 The SG shit it in the west, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Is it? If you don’t get paid, what is the surprise? Very true . People seem to forget the bigger picture and individuals circumstances. However it is still irresponsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, graygo said: That's not going to cover 2 weeks money though is it? 😉 Not quite, but I’d downgrade to cheaper cask scotch for the week or sack the cleaner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Very true . People seem to forget the bigger picture and individuals circumstances. However it is still irresponsible. That is the issue I have tried to get across loads of time’s - scotgov and advisers are good at telling us what to do, but very poor at being realistic about what we WILL do. They are insulated and protected where the rest are not. pay me my income to sit at home for 2 weeks and it’s rock out with my cock out. tell me to sit at home for 2 weeks and not get paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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