Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Don Dan]

The wife NHS Nurse just received this about parties etc Take note Clown Shoes 

 

Minimising the impact of the Omicron Variant

As with last year, I am asking staff to pay particular attention to staying Covid-19 safe during the festive season. This is to help us maintain safe health and social care services and to support you to have a good Christmas with your families.

The emergence of the new Omicron variant which has been confirmed as even more transmissible than the current dominant Delta variant is a particular concern which will inevitably impact on our services as it already has done in other areas of the NHS in Scotland, often because of staff parties. In NHS Lothian there are already some examples of service impact arising from team parties.

Given the concerns about the rate of transmission of the new variant, national guidance has been varied to indicate that those who have been in contact with someone with the Omicron variant will require a 10-day isolation period since the last contact with that person. This applies even if the individual has had a complete course of vaccination, is asymptomatic and has a negative PCR test result.  These criteria previously allowed staff to return to work if the person they had been in contact with had the Delta variant of Covid-19 but are currently not possible for Omicron.

We are also anticipating a rise in Covid-19 cases in schools resulting in teachers and pupils having to self-isolate which will put added pressure on staff managing childcare issues.

When combined, these will put further pressure on our services which as you know are already finding it difficult and this pressure is likely to increase in the coming weeks.

I appreciate after the pressures of the last twenty months you will be keen to celebrate the festive season with colleagues.  I understand this but would strongly urge you to think carefully whether this is as important to you as being able to safely spend Christmas or New Year with your close family and friends. 

It is important that we take additional measures to keep ourselves and health and social care services as safe as possible at this time. To minimise the further spread of Covid-19 please consider the following:

• Speak to your colleagues and friends about the possibility of postponing any festive parties and arranging to have it in 2022.
• Limit the number of social contacts you have, especially with those who may be vulnerable, consider having online parties or meeting in small groups and avoid crowded areas with lots of other Christmas or New Year parties.
• If you are asymptomatic undertake twice weekly tests with the available Lateral Flow Devices and record your result. You should also perform a test before you socialise.  If your test is positive do not attend the event, self -isolate and take a PCR test.
• If you are symptomatic, self -isolate and take a PCR test.
• Do not attend events if someone you live with has symptoms of COVID -19 or has tested positive.
• Consider outdoor activities which have less risk of transmission than indoor activities although I realise that this may not be possible during winter.
• Staff are allowed to bring in food from home to consume outwith clinical areas. However, shared and buffet style eating is not advisable and physical distancing should be applied when masks are removed for eating.  Avoid the use of shared crockery and cutlery.
• Remember to wear a face covering in line with guidance, keep your distance, keep rooms ventilated, and regularly wash your hands with soap and water. 
• If you have not yet had two doses of Covid-19 vaccine, please arrange to be vaccinated. If you have had two doses, please arrange to get a booster dose if your second dose was more than three months ago.

I appreciate this is a big ask, but this will help us to minimise the risk of whole teams contracting Covid-19 at the same time, putting added pressure on colleagues who remain and our ability to offer safe, quality patient services throughout this period of uncertainty as we try to understand the full impact the Omicron variant will have on us all.

Thank you for all your continued efforts throughout this challenging year.

[Malinga the Swinga]

11 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

Just on the news. People in Scotland advised to cancel Christmas parties.

Amazing how we were able to host COP26, then there political party conferences, but as soon as they have had their events, it's cancel parties and stay at home.

We really have the most miserable government imaginable. Sturgeon, Swinney and the rest will be loving this.

[Fxxx the SPFL]

24 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

I'm out tomorrow.....

So am I jonno 18 of us numbers dropping still in hospital both covid and ICU

[Taffin]

32 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said:

 

Oh for crying out loud. I had so many planned as well and I was really looking forward to them all. 

 

It'll cut out the part-timers anyway I'm sure. Those in Christmas ties and the like. Win-win.

 

I've got a Christmas party on Saturday. 

 

Looking forward to it.

[Lord Montpelier]

46 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Amazing how we were able to host COP26, then there political party conferences, but as soon as they have had their events, it's cancel parties and stay at home.

We really have the most miserable government imaginable. Sturgeon, Swinney and the rest will be loving this.

Correct. Fun police out in force again. 

[milky_26]

27 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

So am I jonno 18 of us numbers dropping still in hospital both covid and ICU

my works xmas do is tomorrow (in england) but due to one person testing positive (all of us who had any contact but would not be classed as a close contact got tested to make sure and all are negative) earlier this week around half have pulled out. it is just left to us alkies to enjoy the night.

[indianajones]

They can bin their advice. I seriously hope no one follows it. 

[Nucky Thompson]

Scotland confirmed one extra Omicron case today.

 

 

[Taffin]

1 minute ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Scotland confirmed one extra Omicron case today.

 

 

 

Batten down the hatches, the end is nigh 

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by Taffin

[Taffin]

2 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Going by air pollution estimates, 79 people in the UK died today partly because of vehicle emissions. I presume all ICE cars, vans and lorries will be removed from our roads tomorrow.

 

Don't worry, people's face rags now filter out all the pollutants 👍

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Boy Daniel said:

The wife NHS Nurse just received this about parties etc Take note Clown Shoes 

 

Minimising the impact of the Omicron Variant

As with last year, I am asking staff to pay particular attention to staying Covid-19 safe during the festive season. This is to help us maintain safe health and social care services and to support you to have a good Christmas with your families.

The emergence of the new Omicron variant which has been confirmed as even more transmissible than the current dominant Delta variant is a particular concern which will inevitably impact on our services as it already has done in other areas of the NHS in Scotland, often because of staff parties. In NHS Lothian there are already some examples of service impact arising from team parties.

Given the concerns about the rate of transmission of the new variant, national guidance has been varied to indicate that those who have been in contact with someone with the Omicron variant will require a 10-day isolation period since the last contact with that person. This applies even if the individual has had a complete course of vaccination, is asymptomatic and has a negative PCR test result.  These criteria previously allowed staff to return to work if the person they had been in contact with had the Delta variant of Covid-19 but are currently not possible for Omicron.

We are also anticipating a rise in Covid-19 cases in schools resulting in teachers and pupils having to self-isolate which will put added pressure on staff managing childcare issues.

When combined, these will put further pressure on our services which as you know are already finding it difficult and this pressure is likely to increase in the coming weeks.

I appreciate after the pressures of the last twenty months you will be keen to celebrate the festive season with colleagues.  I understand this but would strongly urge you to think carefully whether this is as important to you as being able to safely spend Christmas or New Year with your close family and friends. 

It is important that we take additional measures to keep ourselves and health and social care services as safe as possible at this time. To minimise the further spread of Covid-19 please consider the following:

• Speak to your colleagues and friends about the possibility of postponing any festive parties and arranging to have it in 2022.
• Limit the number of social contacts you have, especially with those who may be vulnerable, consider having online parties or meeting in small groups and avoid crowded areas with lots of other Christmas or New Year parties.
• If you are asymptomatic undertake twice weekly tests with the available Lateral Flow Devices and record your result. You should also perform a test before you socialise.  If your test is positive do not attend the event, self -isolate and take a PCR test.
• If you are symptomatic, self -isolate and take a PCR test.
• Do not attend events if someone you live with has symptoms of COVID -19 or has tested positive.
• Consider outdoor activities which have less risk of transmission than indoor activities although I realise that this may not be possible during winter.
• Staff are allowed to bring in food from home to consume outwith clinical areas. However, shared and buffet style eating is not advisable and physical distancing should be applied when masks are removed for eating.  Avoid the use of shared crockery and cutlery.
• Remember to wear a face covering in line with guidance, keep your distance, keep rooms ventilated, and regularly wash your hands with soap and water. 
• If you have not yet had two doses of Covid-19 vaccine, please arrange to be vaccinated. If you have had two doses, please arrange to get a booster dose if your second dose was more than three months ago.

I appreciate this is a big ask, but this will help us to minimise the risk of whole teams contracting Covid-19 at the same time, putting added pressure on colleagues who remain and our ability to offer safe, quality patient services throughout this period of uncertainty as we try to understand the full impact the Omicron variant will have on us all.

Thank you for all your continued efforts throughout this challenging year.

When is actually the best time to have an Xmas party then ? Easter ? 😂 currently in my mates restaurant for a meal . He’s told me that they have lost £ 10,000 in reservations due to all this carry on. That’s the real cold hard facts affecting businesses . 

[Nucky Thompson]

7 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Batten down the hatches, the end is nigh 

 

43 cases have been discovered in the USA, with the first being on the 1st December.

The earliest onset of symptoms from the 43 was 15th November.

All of them are mild cases.

You would think if it's been kicking around America for a month, that a lot more cases would have been detected

[Jambo-Jimbo]

4 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

When is actually the best time to have an Xmas party then ? Easter ? 😂 currently in my mates restaurant for a meal . He’s told me that they have lost £ 10,000 in reservations due to all this carry on. That’s the real cold hard facts affecting businesses . 

 

Last week, like Mrs JJ's ward had their christmas party.

[Taffin]

11 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

43 cases have been discovered in the USA, with the first being on the 1st December.

The earliest onset of symptoms from the 43 was 15th November.

All of them are mild cases.

You would think if it's been kicking around America for a month, that a lot more cases would have been detected

 

You'd think that, but word on the street is that all the evidence to date isn't robust enough and we should instead prepare for the apocalypse...based on even less.

[Francis Albert]

3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

43 cases have been discovered in the USA, with the first being on the 1st December.

The earliest onset of symptoms from the 43 was 15th November.

All of them are mild cases.

You would think if it's been kicking around America for a month, that a lot more cases would have been detected

Perhaps America hasn't been testing enough people.

Here Plan B requires a lot more  testing so guarantees a further upsurge in cases and of positive ones in which the vast majority have mild or zero symptoms. 

[NANOJAMBO]

19 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Going by air pollution estimates, 79 people in the UK died today partly because of vehicle emissions. I presume all ICE cars, vans and lorries will be removed from our roads tomorrow.

Give it a rest.

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 hour ago, Salad Fingers said:

 

Oh for crying out loud. I had so many planned as well and I was really looking forward to them all. 

I know the feeling.

Absolutely gutted.

[Fxxx the SPFL]

43 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

my works xmas do is tomorrow (in england) but due to one person testing positive (all of us who had any contact but would not be classed as a close contact got tested to make sure and all are negative) earlier this week around half have pulled out. it is just left to us alkies to enjoy the night.

Yeah we’re all going to do lft before we go I had Covid back in September was absolutely fine and double jabbed but was told by test and trace that you can still test positive for up to 90 days after a pcr positive test so needless to say I haven’t bothered although I’ve not had any covid symptoms now had my booster and flu jab so not much more I can do looking forward to a good bevvy tomorrow Tony Macs in Omni 

[NANOJAMBO]

[JudyJudyJudy]

The hysteria is getting worse about Xmas nights out ! Get out party folks . We are in the pub now after a great night out ! Don’t listen to the bollocks ! Ps I’m not pished 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, NANOJAMBO said:

Fick sake they seem to be on their knees more than me ! 

[Victorian]

To be honest,  I can't blame people for not believing the perceived risks from omicron.  Certainly not the people who don't pay as much attention to events as most on here do.  People aren't seeing any first hand evidence of much to be concerned about.  They're seeing or hearing about the anecdotal evidence about mild symptoms and no deaths,  etc.  Who can blame people for not buying it?

 

Some experts are insisting that clinical evidence wont appear until the infections take their full course.  That's perfectly logical and reasonable.  But other people said that the consequences will tend to be better for the longer it takes to evaluate what's actually happening.  No news is good news,  so to speak.

 

The latest snippet out of South Africa is the possibility of a slowing wave.  Already.  The possibility that latest daily figures have dipped under the projected exponential graph.

 

By a twist of irony,  if this alert does come to little,  all and sundry will be furious about the gloomy forecasts.  Lots of people wont believe a single word from now on.

 

We'll take it though.

[Savage Vince]

23 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Fick sake they seem to be on their knees more than me ! 

 

😁

[Don Dan]

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

When is actually the best time to have an Xmas party then ? Easter ? 😂 currently in my mates restaurant for a meal . He’s told me that they have lost £ 10,000 in reservations due to all this carry on. That’s the real cold hard facts affecting businesses . 

Good question. I was just saying to the wife what was the point of the 3 vaccines if we have all got to hide away again. I am happy I have been vaccinated but the reasons we were given are disappearing faster than PM Clown Shoes can lie.

[Don Dan]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-africa/

[Alex Kintner]

35 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

The hysteria is getting worse about Xmas nights out ! Get out party folks . We are in the pub now after a great night out ! Don’t listen to the bollocks ! Ps I’m not pished 

James you must be a right hoot to go on a night out with. Feels like every time you’re in a pub or restaurant you’re still glued to kickback. Put your phone away and focus on the moment you’re in and the people you’re with James 🍷🍜👍🏻

[JudyJudyJudy]

30 minutes ago, Victorian said:

To be honest,  I can't blame people for not believing the perceived risks from omicron.  Certainly not the people who don't pay as much attention to events as most on here do.  People aren't seeing any first hand evidence of much to be concerned about.  They're seeing or hearing about the anecdotal evidence about mild symptoms and no deaths,  etc.  Who can blame people for not buying it?

 

Some experts are insisting that clinical evidence wont appear until the infections take their full course.  That's perfectly logical and reasonable.  But other people said that the consequences will tend to be better for the longer it takes to evaluate what's actually happening.  No news is good news,  so to speak.

 

The latest snippet out of South Africa is the possibility of a slowing wave.  Already.  The possibility that latest daily figures have dipped under the projected exponential graph.

 

By a twist of irony,  if this alert does come to little,  all and sundry will be furious about the gloomy forecasts.  Lots of people wont believe a single word from now on.

 

We'll take it though.

👍

5 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Good question. I was just saying to the wife what was the point of the 3 vaccines if we have all got to hide away again. I am happy I have been vaccinated but the reasons we were given are disappearing faster than PM Clown Shoes can lie.

Exactly makes me feel I’ve been had and conned In some way ! 

[Victorian]

1 minute ago, Boy Daniel said:

Good question. I was just saying to the wife what was the point of the 3 vaccines if we have all got to hide away again. I am happy I have been vaccinated but the reasons we were given are disappearing faster than PM Clown Shoes can lie.

 

The reasons haven't so much disappeared.  It's more accurate to say that they have evolved.  Mutated,  you might say.

 

One main reason why we're being told to hide away again,  despite tipping up for vaccinations is... the 5 million who haven't come forward.  

 

Like them,  loathe them,  agree with them,  disagree with them,  is all immaterial.  They're still people who will need to be admitted to hospital if required.  

 

That's not the only reason but it's a large part of the precautionary approach.

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Alex Kintner said:

James you must be a right hoot to go on a night out with. Feels like every time you’re in a pub or restaurant you’re still glued to kickback. Put your phone away and focus on the moment you’re in and the people you’re with James 🍷🍜👍🏻

Lol no bud just having a wee break from them . I’m a hoot ! So I’ve bed. Told ! 👍 at least I think that’s what they said . 

[Herbert.]

4 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

The reasons haven't so much disappeared.  It's more accurate to say that they have evolved.  Mutated,  you might say.

 

One main reason why we're being told to hide away again,  despite tipping up for vaccinations is... the 5 million who haven't come forward.  

 

Like them,  loathe them,  agree with them,  disagree with them,  is all immaterial.  They're still people who will need to be admitted to hospital if required.  

 

That's not the only reason but it's a large part of the precautionary approach.

 

 

That's the right idea, take away everyone's daily lives for the minority who may not want to be vaxxed and get on with it anyway.

 

[Don Dan]

3 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Like them,  loathe them,  agree with them,  disagree with them,  is all immaterial.  They're still people who will need to be admitted to hospital if required.  

  
I feel they should be left to deal with the results if they have refused the vaccine. It’s not right I should feel that way, I know. 
You would think after listening to and seeing people who have refused the vaccine gasping for breathe and in a lot of cases dying, the anti vaxxers would just get vaccinated. 

[Herbert.]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

43 cases have been discovered in the USA, with the first being on the 1st December.

The earliest onset of symptoms from the 43 was 15th November.

All of them are mild cases.

You would think if it's been kicking around America for a month, that a lot more cases would have been detected

 

 

Maybe it's rampant but people don't have symptoms or think it's a cold. It's all alot of shit anyway. This isn't about protection it's about control.

[Victorian]

1 minute ago, Herbert said:

 

 

That's the right idea, take away everyone's daily lives for the minority who may not want to be vaxxed and get on with it anyway.

 

 

I'm making no comment for or against.  I'm simply pointing out that the government is being forced to be concerned about hospitalisations that may occur.  People can ignore these problems.  Governments can't.

[Walter Bishop]

2 hours ago, Boy Daniel said:

The wife NHS Nurse just received this about parties etc Take note Clown Shoes 

 

Minimising the impact of the Omicron Variant

As with last year, I am asking staff to pay particular attention to staying Covid-19 safe during the festive season. This is to help us maintain safe health and social care services and to support you to have a good Christmas with your families.

The emergence of the new Omicron variant which has been confirmed as even more transmissible than the current dominant Delta variant is a particular concern which will inevitably impact on our services as it already has done in other areas of the NHS in Scotland, often because of staff parties. In NHS Lothian there are already some examples of service impact arising from team parties.

Given the concerns about the rate of transmission of the new variant, national guidance has been varied to indicate that those who have been in contact with someone with the Omicron variant will require a 10-day isolation period since the last contact with that person. This applies even if the individual has had a complete course of vaccination, is asymptomatic and has a negative PCR test result.  These criteria previously allowed staff to return to work if the person they had been in contact with had the Delta variant of Covid-19 but are currently not possible for Omicron.

We are also anticipating a rise in Covid-19 cases in schools resulting in teachers and pupils having to self-isolate which will put added pressure on staff managing childcare issues.

When combined, these will put further pressure on our services which as you know are already finding it difficult and this pressure is likely to increase in the coming weeks.

I appreciate after the pressures of the last twenty months you will be keen to celebrate the festive season with colleagues.  I understand this but would strongly urge you to think carefully whether this is as important to you as being able to safely spend Christmas or New Year with your close family and friends. 

It is important that we take additional measures to keep ourselves and health and social care services as safe as possible at this time. To minimise the further spread of Covid-19 please consider the following:

• Speak to your colleagues and friends about the possibility of postponing any festive parties and arranging to have it in 2022.
• Limit the number of social contacts you have, especially with those who may be vulnerable, consider having online parties or meeting in small groups and avoid crowded areas with lots of other Christmas or New Year parties.
• If you are asymptomatic undertake twice weekly tests with the available Lateral Flow Devices and record your result. You should also perform a test before you socialise.  If your test is positive do not attend the event, self -isolate and take a PCR test.
• If you are symptomatic, self -isolate and take a PCR test.
• Do not attend events if someone you live with has symptoms of COVID -19 or has tested positive.
• Consider outdoor activities which have less risk of transmission than indoor activities although I realise that this may not be possible during winter.
• Staff are allowed to bring in food from home to consume outwith clinical areas. However, shared and buffet style eating is not advisable and physical distancing should be applied when masks are removed for eating.  Avoid the use of shared crockery and cutlery.
• Remember to wear a face covering in line with guidance, keep your distance, keep rooms ventilated, and regularly wash your hands with soap and water. 
• If you have not yet had two doses of Covid-19 vaccine, please arrange to be vaccinated. If you have had two doses, please arrange to get a booster dose if your second dose was more than three months ago.

I appreciate this is a big ask, but this will help us to minimise the risk of whole teams contracting Covid-19 at the same time, putting added pressure on colleagues who remain and our ability to offer safe, quality patient services throughout this period of uncertainty as we try to understand the full impact the Omicron variant will have on us all.

Thank you for all your continued efforts throughout this challenging year.

That’s a free pass for a 10 day holiday for NHS staff. 🤦🏼

[Victorian]

1 minute ago, Boy Daniel said:

  
I feel they should be left to deal with the results if they have refused the vaccine. It’s not right I should feel that way, I know. 
You would think after listening to and seeing people who have refused the vaccine gasping for breathe and in a lot of cases dying, the anti vaxxers would just get vaccinated. 

 

The government can't do it though.  The government must concern itself to protect or mitigate risk for hospitals.  For everyone.

[Walter Bishop]

2 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

  
I feel they should be left to deal with the results if they have refused the vaccine. It’s not right I should feel that way, I know. 
You would think after listening to and seeing people who have refused the vaccine gasping for breathe and in a lot of cases dying, the anti vaxxers would just get vaccinated. 

Would you also deny cancer treatment to smokers and cardiac treatment to overweight people? 
 

 

[Herbert.]

Just now, Victorian said:

 

I'm making no comment for or against.  I'm simply pointing out that the government is being forced to be concerned about hospitalisations that may occur.  People can ignore these problems.  Governments can't.

 

You've already commented in the past, Remember a few days ago when I commented on your post about the unvaxed getting shunned from society and compared it to how the Jews were treated? Your stance is clear you blindly lap up what comes out of the government despite them getting caught out with lies and not following there own restrictions they've placed on us.

[JudyJudyJudy]

17 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:

James you must be a right hoot to go on a night out with. Feels like every time you’re in a pub or restaurant you’re still glued to kickback. Put your phone away and focus on the moment you’re in and the people you’re with James 🍷🍜👍🏻

Btw they are on their phones just as much as me ! Grinder certainly has a lot to answer to

[Victorian]

4 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

You've already commented in the past, Remember a few days ago when I commented on your post about the unvaxed getting shunned from society and compared it to how the Jews were treated? Your stance is clear you blindly lap up what comes out of the government despite them getting caught out with lies and not following there own restrictions they've placed on us.

 

".... blindly lap up.... "

 

For this sort of reason I shall decline the opportunity to get involved with you.

[Herbert.]

6 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

  
I feel they should be left to deal with the results if they have refused the vaccine. It’s not right I should feel that way, I know. 
You would think after listening to and seeing people who have refused the vaccine gasping for breathe and in a lot of cases dying, the anti vaxxers would just get vaccinated. 

 

If someone attempts suicide should they be left to deal with the results?

[Dennis Reynolds]

12 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

 

Maybe it's rampant but people don't have symptoms or think it's a cold. It's all alot of shit anyway. This isn't about protection it's about control.

 

Says the person who thinks the USA has 20x the population of the UK  

[Alex Kintner]

7 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Btw they are on their phones just as much as me ! Grinder certainly has a lot to answer to

 

Nothing better than going out socialising 👍🏻

[milky_26]

2 minutes ago, LMc said:

 

Says the person who thinks the USA has 20x the population of the UK  

wasnt it 40x?

[Herbert.]

Just now, milky_26 said:

wasnt it 40x?

 

Yup, I'm the 1st person to get something wrong. Ah well 

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:

 

Nothing better than going out socialising 👍🏻

Alex one can multi task ! Get with it it’s 2021 ! 

[Herbert.]

4 minutes ago, LMc said:

 

Says the person who thinks the USA has 20x the population of the UK  

 

 

Oooh that's blown my statement out the water.

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, jonnothejambo said:

 

We're starting at 11. A few beers then a Ruby followed by pool and a quiz in a booked room. 

 

Walk up the hill when I get back to Dunblane could be difficult...

Get off tout bloody phone ! It’s not allowed in Alex ville ! 😎😎😎

[Victorian]

The government doesn't care about an individual coming a cropper through refusing to protect themselves with a vaccine.  It doesn't give a monkeys.  It does care about a very large number of individuals acting similarly.  Why?  Because it may represent a risk towards everyone else.

 

The unvaccinated will not be protected by the government.  Everybody equally will be protected by the government.  If the unvaccinated posed no risk to everyone else,  the government would happily allow them to choose the path of their destiny.

 

[Alex Kintner]

1 minute ago, JamesM48 said:

Alex one can multi task ! Get with it it’s 2021 ! 

No thanks. I prefer to give my full attention to those I’m with 👍🏻

[Victorian]

5 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

So you don't think people that refuse the vax should be shunned from society and stripped of there rights?

 

Your like the wee lassie from schindlers list

 

 

 

Goodbye Jews.

 

Goodbye you.