maggieb Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 8 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: It does seem like they see themselves as at war with the rest of the Hearts support. They intentionally to provoke other fans. Genuinely don't know how it gets sorted but I think the only realistic way is the Hearts fans themselves calling them out during games. Problem is if they do get challenged it's by 1 or 2 people, it needs a proper mob mentality to defeat this mob. Or maybe just one or two of our own security [paid] hangs about with, camera at the ready, ffs , we can’t be doing with this shit in this day and age , imagine any future fan /player/investor listening to this or reading in the press, it’s a cancer that wants stopped very very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 15 hours ago, euan 10 said: Well why don’t all the proper hearts fans drown them out sing hearts songs. if they r silly boys men should be able to sing louder than them. I am still a huge fan off the Gorgie boys what hearts need especially at Tynecastle csuse Tynecastle is sometime like a morgue players need atmospheric or a 12th man. Plus ultras r supposed to be controversial look round the world. Gorgie rules. You will find as most of us do,that when the team plays well ,that in itself generates the songbook , when playing badly the silence in itself can be deafening, which runs onto the pitch , can you imagine as a player listening to some dickheads /fans drumming up ira/nazi pish? Give me strength , euan 10 please have a wee think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: It does seem like they see themselves as at war with the rest of the Hearts support. They intentionally to provoke other fans. Genuinely don't know how it gets sorted but I think the only realistic way is the Hearts fans themselves calling them out during games. Problem is if they do get challenged it's by 1 or 2 people, it needs a proper mob mentality to defeat this mob. that's pretty much how the casuals thing never really got going with Hearts in the 80's and they were definitely not allowed into the shed. compared to other teams like Aberdeen, Hibs & Motherwell, Hearts had very few 'casuals' Edited January 23, 2020 by maroonsgotop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 22 hours ago, Saughton Jambo said: Oh wee oh Stendel is a Nazi oh wee oh He loves the fu**ing Gorgie oh wee oh He hates the fu**king IRA 2, 3, 4 repeat. Makes my blood boil. Along with **** Ann Budge , **** Ann Budge **** Ann Budge. Good to see Hearts fans challenge them and actually have a go. They’re out of order. Build my Gallows and old orange flute being belted out. What the hell are we turning into? I've not paid much attention to them up to this point but that song is a shocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 16 hours ago, grumpyespana said: All you can say about Washington is that he runs about that's it in a nutshell. He needs empited, showed not alot before he got injured, then quite a few poster / fans , somehow made hin the savouir on his return of our scoring issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 hours ago, maroonsgotop said: that's pretty much how the casuals thing never really got going with Hearts in the 80's and they were definitely not allowed into the shed. compared to other teams like Aberdeen, Hibs & Motherwell, Hearts had very few 'casuals' Not quite correct , hearts had a decent size crew in the late 80s , home and away . At that piont it was the end of the shed as we knew it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 20 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Good on the young disabled laddie for calling them out but instead of moaning on the internet more of our supporters should do the same and self police the situation I disagree with the self police idea. First of all it’s a risky proposition to confront these idiots. Plus, that’s what they want anyway. Second, it should be down to the stadium to kick out trouble makers. The sooner they crack down on this shit the sooner these idiots tone it down or stop attending games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Easy enough to record them on a phone and hand it to the club. These scumbags singing about our manager like that is ****ing disgusting. Get them emptied, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uche Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 23/01/2020 at 05:46, Mr 3 Putt said: Calling your own manager a nazi, jesus christ 🤦. Im sure DS will be buzzing to hear that. ****ing idiots. Absolutely. They are totally, totally braindead. All of them are utter pondlife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 The young team are a bunch of uneducated arseholes. The quicker they are banned from attending Hearts matches the better. I'm all for creating an atmosphere but, bigotry, sectarian singing and racism have no place at our club. Get them emptied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Stokesy said: I've not paid much attention to them up to this point but that song is a shocker. It’s actually worse than I reported. The second line doesn’t say ‘ loves the Gorgie’ as rightly pointed out by my mate I was with on Wednesday. it actually says “ Loves a fecking Patsy”. as this rhymes better with ‘Nazi’ So in essence our colourful, noisy Gorgie boys actually sing about our new manager being a coke snorting National Socialist. But it’s fine, they’re only young laddies growing up eh. Classy lyrics and the whole reason they should be banned from Tynecastle until they get their act together. Edited January 24, 2020 by Saughton Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 11 hours ago, maggieb said: You will find as most of us do,that when the team plays well ,that in itself generates the songbook , when playing badly the silence in itself can be deafening, which runs onto the pitch , can you imagine as a player listening to some dickheads /fans drumming up ira/nazi pish? Give me strength , euan 10 please have a wee think I was sitting quite close to the corner flag on Wednesday where our subs were doing their warm ups. When these songs started up the subs looked at the crowd and just shook their heads. We all know that "getting behind the team" can only help, but only if it's done in a positive way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Rannoch said: I was sitting to the right side looking onto the pitch.There was an issue here with lots of fans standing. To be fair most sat down as the game got underway but two or three young laddies defiantly continued to stand. A middle aged guy, quite rightly, asked them to sit down but one of the laddies got bold and started to get aggressive. I was about to intervene on behalf of the older guy but he looked capable of handling himself and the cops came over so left it there. The bit for me was that the young laddie was so self centred and completely oblivious to the fact that there were elderly fans who need to sit and guys like me who have a back injury and can’t stand for long periods. The main source of sectarian chanting came from directly behind the goal. More loyalist than usual I would say. I can’t quite get my head round this as having lived in Glasgow I can only say that by comparison, I’ve never noticed an Orange culture in Edinburgh. I wouldn’t ban them but instead bring them in and educate them that HMFC is non political and non sectarian. I’d also encourage them to get a new musical director as their songs are rank and infantile and amongst the poorest in the SPFL easily out sung with more wit and style by Motherwell / Aberdeen and Hibs. In fact if I’d give them free banners and links to other fans groups on how to improve their performance because if done right it would improve the match day experience. I’d state in no uncertain terms that any sectarian shite and your out and employ someone with a military/ police background to do some covert work at away games , identify the tiny minority who chose to ignore this , then ban them. So to recap. Let us sit at away matches and you improve the song book and we’ll all sing along with you. Carry on regardless then the club and fans go after you. Not the worst idea I've heard. As we've seen banning these wee dicks is difficult to enforce, especially at away games. So if they are (as they claim to be) real Hearts fans, then showing them how they are damaging the club and risking the club being punished then just maybe it might make them think twice. If that doesn't work then lock them in a room with Uche and Clevid and let them spout their racist pish and see where it gets them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 With respect to the posters advocating bringing them in to educate them, sorry, that won’t work. The very nature of being in that mob environment rules that out. The same as an official singing section. That was doomed to fail. They’ll scoff at these suggestions. The only reasonable thing that was mooted a while back was a section for like-minded individuals to group together at away games. Of course, that would mean all ticket away games and solve the problem of people with kids being stuck in the middle of it. Easier for the old bill to police, which they are paid to do anyway. No easy answer to the songbook of course. I wasn’t up at Dingwall but, from what I can glean from the posters that were, it wasn’t a riot. Some, frankly, ridiculous songs etc. Not nice of course if you’re slap bang in the middle of it however. All seating stadia is good but creates a problem where you can’t move away if it gets a bit tasty. Perth and Paisley will be the acid test of where we are as regards this group. I’ll be at both so will give an honest opinion of proceedings ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 21 hours ago, Notts1874 said: To be absolutely honest, and I’m not trying to stir up any shit, I was very close to these aholes for the whole game and I heard all their hun songs.......I can say in all honesty I did not hear the “Nazi” singing part. Not trying to defend anyone and not saying it didn’t happen but, I just didn’t hear it and I don’t have selective hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I just wish that the young scamps would put away the Rangers songbook and show more originality with their racist and bigoted ditties. The nazi part isn't a bad start I suppose, if a touch unimaginative under the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartofIron Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, highlandjambo3 said: To be absolutely honest, and I’m not trying to stir up any shit, I was very close to these aholes for the whole game and I heard all their hun songs.......I can say in all honesty I did not hear the “Nazi” singing part. Not trying to defend anyone and not saying it didn’t happen but, I just didn’t hear it and I don’t have selective hearing. There was 100% Nazi songs. I was a couple of rows in front. Only a few singing it, maybe single figure, so maybe not heard from a bit further away. But it was definitely going on unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 9 hours ago, The Treasurer said: I was sitting quite close to the corner flag on Wednesday where our subs were doing their warm ups. When these songs started up the subs looked at the crowd and just shook their heads. We all know that "getting behind the team" can only help, but only if it's done in a positive way. 👍👍👍👍👍 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 17 hours ago, fila said: Not quite correct , hearts had a decent size crew in the late 80s , home and away . At that piont it was the end of the shed as we knew it take your word on the numbers but they were certainly told to stay away from the 'corner' where the main Hearts 'boys' stood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, maroonsgotop said: take your word on the numbers but they were certainly told to stay away from the 'corner' where the main Hearts 'boys' stood Correct, there was one stand of when between the two groups from memory. I used to love the shed as a teenager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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