Clerry Jambo Posted August 31, 2019 Soapy and Smith big doubts for Derby https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-star-john-souttar-may-miss-derby-with-hibs-as-he-suffers-injury-setback-1-4994778 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Soapy and Smith big doubts for Derby https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-star-john-souttar-may-miss-derby-with-hibs-as-he-suffers-injury-setback-1-4994778 Ffs we seem to get told the players will be back by a certain date then it always seems to be increased by a number weeks. Last week it was hoped Souttar would make it for today now we are told he is making slow progress and has been to a specialist. It must have been known a week go that he wasn't progressing and maybe should have seen a specialist a few weeks ago. Edited August 31, 2019 by Robbo-Jambo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1971fozzy Posted August 31, 2019 Soapy was meant to be touch and go for last week ffs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: Soapy was meant to be touch and go for last week ffs. This always seem to be said and it's obviously not true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamhammer Posted August 31, 2019 Liars. Luhvine out. Am I doing this right? Think we've got to manage both right. Huge players for us. Neither should be rushed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1874robbo Posted August 31, 2019 Soapy is made of glass ffs!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingantti1874 Posted August 31, 2019 Weve got a big squad.. as long as it’s no more we will be ok Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gashauskis9 Posted August 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Ffs we seem to get told the players will be back by a certain date then it always seems to be increased by a number weeks. Last week it was hoped Souttar would make it for today now we are told he is making slow progress and has been to a specialist. It must have been known a week go that he wasn't progressing and maybe should have seen a specialist a few weeks ago. The decision to risk Smith last week in light of what they knew before the game is shocking and has now robbed him of 3-4 weeks of football and an international double header. On the Souttar front, I’m not in the slightest bit surprised to be honest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special Officer Doofy Posted August 31, 2019 It’s extremely frustrating, but I’ll look at the positives. Naismith back. Ryotaro available. Damour and Whelan more time to get settled. Wonder if Levein goes with Brandon again, or if White and Hickey will be the fullbacks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gashauskis9 Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: It’s extremely frustrating, but I’ll look at the positives. Naismith back. Ryotaro available. Damour and Whelan more time to get settled. Wonder if Levein goes with Brandon again, or if White and Hickey will be the fullbacks. Wouldn’t be shocked if Naismith ends up in a heap today. The shit prognosis (again!!!) if Souttar and Smith doesn’t fill me with confidence that Naismith is as ready as they say he is. Levein told us that he’s been training all week, for all we know he could been sitting on the physio table all week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Victorian Posted August 31, 2019 People just making up their own injury news to add to the actual injury news. Injury news + Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special Officer Doofy Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Wouldn’t be shocked if Naismith ends up in a heap today. The shit prognosis (again!!!) if Souttar and Smith doesn’t fill me with confidence that Naismith is as ready as they say he is. Levein told us that he’s been training all week, for all we know he could been sitting on the physio table all week. You think he’d lie about whether or not he’d been training? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7628mm Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Weve got a big squad.. as long as it’s no more we will be ok Your post suggests to me that our squad may not big enough. Edited August 31, 2019 by 7628mm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 31, 2019 I hope we go Hickey RB, White LB - especially today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlimOzturk Posted August 31, 2019 Soapy, for all his talent wont go far due to being injury prone. Not a good a sign how often he has been injured in his short career so far. Shame as I feel he is the most talented CB Scotland has right now. Hope I am wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy51 Posted August 31, 2019 just another bit off bad management , playing players when not 100% fit, look at haring , Naismith, uche, walker all played when not ready probably play meshino today str8 of plane after 20 hr flight how can he be match fit, pressure is on levien and I think he is wilting making wrong choices hopefully I am wrong but looks bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barack Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, jimmy51 said: just another bit off bad management , playing players when not 100% fit, look at haring , Naismith, uche, walker all played when not ready probably play meshino today str8 of plane after 20 hr flight how can he be match fit, pressure is on levien and I think he is wilting making wrong choices hopefully I am wrong but looks bad He's not str8 off a plane after a 20 hour flight. Go back to bed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pants Shaton Posted August 31, 2019 59 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Ffs we seem to get told the players will be back by a certain date then it always seems to be increased by a number weeks. Last week it was hoped Souttar would make it for today now we are told he is making slow progress and has been to a specialist. It must have been known a week go that he wasn't progressing and maybe should have seen a specialist a few weeks ago. This is always true apart from the times we’re told a date and the player comes back sooner. Which happens around half the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JyTees Posted August 31, 2019 33 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: The decision to risk Smith last week in light of what they knew before the game is shocking and has now robbed him of 3-4 weeks of football and an international double header. On the Souttar front, I’m not in the slightest bit surprised to be honest. What did they know before the game? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pants Shaton Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Barack said: He's not str8 off a plane after a 20 hour flight. Go back to bed. Must be a shite plane he was on - think my flight to Tokyo was about 12 hours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i8hibsh Posted August 31, 2019 39 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: Soapy is made of glass ffs!!! Sad but true. He is just 'one of those players'. Huge shame as the boy is class but no club will touch him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barack Posted August 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pants Shaton said: Must be a shite plane he was on - think my flight to Tokyo was about 12 hours. Don't think Jimmy is quite up to date with long-haul air travel. Or travelling in a lie flat bed in 1st Class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, JyTees said: What did they know before the game? Yeah his hamstring had been tight a few days before the game. 😕 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnthomas Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Ffs we seem to get told the players will be back by a certain date then it always seems to be increased by a number weeks. Last week it was hoped Souttar would make it for today now we are told he is making slow progress and has been to a specialist. It must have been known a week go that he wasn't progressing and maybe should have seen a specialist a few weeks ago. We never sent him to see a specialist when we should have ? You just made that up 4 minutes ago, Pants Shaton said: This is always true apart from the times we’re told a date and the player comes back sooner. Which happens around half the time. Think you may have spotted a pattern there . Have these type of events EVER happened at any other club ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Ramsay Posted August 31, 2019 Same old shite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Last Laff Posted August 31, 2019 We will pump them regardless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hackney Hearts Posted August 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, Pants Shaton said: This is always true apart from the times we’re told a date and the player comes back sooner. Which happens around half the time. Exactly what I was thinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, johnthomas said: We never sent him to see a specialist when we should have ? You just made that up Think you may have spotted a pattern there . Have these type of events EVER happened at any other club ? Made it up. What are you on about!! He had been making slow progress and not healing as quickly as he should have been. So why not send him to a specialist earlier than they did as he was not progressing as expected with that kind of injury. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnthomas Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Made it up. What are you on about!! He had been making slow progress and not healing as quickly as he should have been. So why not send him to a specialist earlier than they did as he was not progressing as expected with that kind of injury. What , exactly , are your qualifications ? City and Guilds don't count Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 31, 2019 50 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: The decision to risk Smith last week in light of what they knew before the game is shocking and has now robbed him of 3-4 weeks of football and an international double header. On the Souttar front, I’m not in the slightest bit surprised to be honest. Exactly. It was said that Souttar was touch and go for the Celtic game. Obviously a lot of bullshit. Why risk Smith with a tight hamstring last week. Asking for trouble and they got it. It was known it was tight in training before the game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, johnthomas said: What , exactly , are your qualifications ? City and Guilds don't count Common sense counts though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jocam2325 Posted August 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, jimmy51 said: just another bit off bad management , playing players when not 100% fit, look at haring , Naismith, uche, walker all played when not ready probably play meshino today str8 of plane after 20 hr flight how can he be match fit, pressure is on levien and I think he is wilting making wrong choices hopefully I am wrong but looks bad Who are your mob playing today mate. See Gray is out injured. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 31, 2019 32 minutes ago, Pants Shaton said: This is always true apart from the times we’re told a date and the player comes back sooner. Which happens around half the time. Like Berra who came back a lot earlier and struggled like **** every game he played last season after the injury. 😏 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaths17 Posted August 31, 2019 i've never known any team announce the truth about players fitness, yeah lets just let the opposition know who's playing, put the line up in the papers so they can set their team up for it, where have you lot been, moaning about injury news no being the truth, whinge moan, anything to knock the club. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainmac Posted August 31, 2019 47 minutes ago, Pants Shaton said: Must be a shite plane he was on - think my flight to Tokyo was about 12 hours. You forgot to factor in the London to Edinburgh leg of the journey. 😉 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Bruno Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: Weve got a big squad.. as long as it’s no more we will be ok Unfortunately we don't have a decent back up for Smith because Brandon is torture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pants Shaton Posted August 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, iainmac said: You forgot to factor in the London to Edinburgh leg of the journey. 😉 That 8 hr flight to Edinburgh is a killer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainmac Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Pants Shaton said: That 8 hr flight to Edinburgh is a killer Nae flat beds on it either! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OTT Posted August 31, 2019 Think Soapy's value isn't going to be very high until he can go a season or two with no injuries. Might mean we'll keep him longer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnthomas Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Common sense counts though. Of course but neither you , or I , have a scooby about his injury . Nor are we qualified to even speculate in an informed manner . He was progressing , had a setback , went to a specialist . Happens all the time . No idea (?) why you would come out with your nonsense Edited August 31, 2019 by johnthomas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Victorian said: People just making up their own injury news to add to the actual injury news. Injury news + They’re just getting the excuses in now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy51 Posted August 31, 2019 55 minutes ago, Jocam2325 said: Who are your mob playing today mate. See Gray is out injured. bigger jambo you wont fond m8 only my opinion which I said I hope am wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Pants Shaton said: This is always true apart from the times we’re told a date and the player comes back sooner. Which happens around half the time. So they just make it up as they go along really? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: So they just make it up as they go along really? Just like Levein. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DETTY29 Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) And again, Hearts is the only club these things hapopen too ever. Joke so it is.... 🤔 Edited August 31, 2019 by DETTY29 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DalryJambo Posted August 31, 2019 43 minutes ago, johnthomas said: Of course but neither you , or I , have a scooby about his injury . Nor are we qualified to even speculate in an informed manner . He was progressing , had a setback , went to a specialist . Happens all the time . No idea (?) why you would come out with your nonsense There seems to be a trend at our club (maybe within the physiotherapy profession) to give players 2-3 weeks to let it heal naturally then if the problem persists seek further treatment. This is possibly looking long term at what’s best for the player rather than short term turnaround. It does seem to take our players a long time to get back to fitness at times. As you say without knowing the specifics how can we really comment? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramrod Posted August 31, 2019 Yes we've been unlucky with injuries but my opinion is our medical department as a whole is somewhere between amateurish and shambolic . We seem clueless on diagnosis, treatment and prevention. Needs to be looked at asap . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisyboy7 Posted August 31, 2019 Another 2 players off today injured. I've never known anything like it. 4 league games played and around 7 injuries so far this season. Bonkers.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vegas-voss Posted August 31, 2019 No wonder we need a 35 man squad 😂 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OTT Posted August 31, 2019 35 minutes ago, chrisyboy7 said: Another 2 players off today injured. I've never known anything like it. 4 league games played and around 7 injuries so far this season. Bonkers.. Its ****ing ridiculous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
