Epstein

[I P Knightley]

I was speaking to a couple of guys who worked closely with the royal household. They are in no doubt that Andrew was at it. Instructions to security detail to keep a distance when there were certain visitors in the house. Overall, the family seems to be as seedy as any. 

[Shanks]

Thoughts and prayers

[Cade]

Bail denied.  

Not guilty plea submitted.  

 

She'd tried to claim that she had no money and was living hand to mouth.

Despite being guarded by a private security firm made of ex special forces veterans.

Also claimed she didn't know who owned the estate she was found in. Prosecutors allege it was one of her estates, bought under a pseudonym.

She had asked to be granted bail and placed under house arrest in a 5 star hotel in Manhattan.

 

[JFK-1]

1 hour ago, Cade said:

Bail denied.  

Not guilty plea submitted.  

 

She'd tried to claim that she had no money and was living hand to mouth.

Despite being guarded by a private security firm made of ex special forces veterans.

Also claimed she didn't know who owned the estate she was found in. Prosecutors allege it was one of her estates, bought under a pseudonym.

She had asked to be granted bail and placed under house arrest in a 5 star hotel in Manhattan.

 

 

No money?
 

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Her lawyers denied that she was a flight risk and asked for her release on bail of $5m (£4m). The requested bail was secured by a $3.75m property in the UK.

 

She has three passports and speaks four languages. And if she's like Epstein she had false passports and money/valuables stashed ready for an escape. He too asked for bail and offered to hand over in excess of $500 million to get out on bail.

Prosecutors pointed out to the judge that they had raided one of his houses. In that house they gained entry to a small safe in which they found a bag of diamonds and a number of false passports. An escape kit which they had no doubt he would use.

His lawyers said well you have the diamonds and the passports. The prosecutors argued yes we do but it demonstrates a pre-conceived plan of escape. And we don't know if he has other escape kits stashed all over the place,

Bail denied.

[Jeff]

https://www.euronews.com/2020/07/20/son-of-judge-overseeing-deutsche-bank-epstein-lawsuit-shot-dead-by-gunman-in-home-ambush

 

 

[Weakened Offender]

On 08/07/2020 at 13:21, I P Knightley said:

I was speaking to a couple of guys who worked closely with the royal household. They are in no doubt that Andrew was at it. Instructions to security detail to keep a distance when there were certain visitors in the house. Overall, the family seems to be as seedy as any. 

 

They're utter vermin, top to bottom. The Russians and French knew their stuff. 

[Cade]

1 hour ago, Jeff said:

https://www.euronews.com/2020/07/20/son-of-judge-overseeing-deutsche-bank-epstein-lawsuit-shot-dead-by-gunman-in-home-ambush

 

 

 

Shooter turned out to be some anti-womens rights lawyer who kept taking ludicrous cases

Who was himself then found dead.

And may have killed another "mens rights" lawyer.

Another murderous Incel??

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/21/anti-feminist-lawyer-suspect-roy-den-hollander-new-jersey-fbi-california-killing

[ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ]

On 08/07/2020 at 13:21, I P Knightley said:

I was speaking to a couple of guys who worked closely with the royal household. They are in no doubt that Andrew was at it. Instructions to security detail to keep a distance when there were certain visitors in the house. Overall, the family seems to be as seedy as any. 

That butler twat said in his book that they all had nicknames. Andrew's was The **** (a lady's sexual whatnots)

Edited July 21, 2020 by Smithee

[SwindonJambo]

On 08/07/2020 at 13:21, I P Knightley said:

I was speaking to a couple of guys who worked closely with the royal household. They are in no doubt that Andrew was at it. Instructions to security detail to keep a distance when there were certain visitors in the house. Overall, the family seems to be as seedy as any. 

 

They truly are a dysfunctional bunch of overpriveleged deviants and inbreds. Once the Queen passes, I think it's time to call a halt to the whole thing and put them all in modest accommodation.

 

[JFK-1]

 

[gashauskis9]

2 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

In the words of Billy Connolly “away up tae the sky and see yer faither”

[RobNox]

Maxwell will never make it to trial.  Too many powerful people have too much to lose if she decides to strike a deal, and let's face it, if she doesn't agree to a deal she will spend the rest of her life in prison.  Her father was suicided by Mossad when he tried to ransom Israel to bail him out of his financial mess.  

[JFK-1]

53 minutes ago, RobNox said:

Maxwell will never make it to trial.  Too many powerful people have too much to lose if she decides to strike a deal, and let's face it, if she doesn't agree to a deal she will spend the rest of her life in prison.  Her father was suicided by Mossad when he tried to ransom Israel to bail him out of his financial mess.  

 

As the video which makes some interesting points mentions, it's not quite so straightforward as that. She's going to have a team of high powered lawyers who will have had a year to go over every little detail of law.

First they're going to go for dismissal due to statute of limitations and if that fails move on to the immunity document Epstein was given. Which apparently granted immunity to a lot more than him.

If all that fails they will then move on to trying to strike a deal. And as for whacking her, given what happened to Epstein that may be a whacking too far to have any hope of being passed off as coincidence.

[RobNox]

1 hour ago, JFK-1 said:

 

As the video which makes some interesting points mentions, it's not quite so straightforward as that. She's going to have a team of high powered lawyers who will have had a year to go over every little detail of law.

First they're going to go for dismissal due to statute of limitations and if that fails move on to the immunity document Epstein was given. Which apparently granted immunity to a lot more than him.

If all that fails they will then move on to trying to strike a deal. And as for whacking her, given what happened to Epstein that may be a whacking too far to have any hope of being passed off as coincidence.

 

The people who stand  to lose if it gets to the stage where whacking her is the only option will not think twice about doing so, and will not give a shiny shite about how bad it looks.  

[A Boy Named Crow]

Watching the BBC video, I was shocked to hear the trial is still a year away.  I wouldn't fancy her chances of making it that long,  going by the description of her current digs.

Maybe I misunderstood,  but it sounds like she will first try to have the case dismissed,  then only if that fails will the prospect of a deal naming names etc come up.

If all this is a year from now,  it's a long time for Andrew to not be sweating on it!

[Seymour M Hersh]

On 21/07/2020 at 22:35, Weakened Offender said:

 

They're utter vermin, top to bottom. The Russians and French knew their stuff. 

 

[Cruyff]

Prince Andrew lobbied the US government to give Jeffrey Epstein a plea deal. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8580349/Prince-Andrew-lobbied-government-Epstein-plea-deal.html

 

He's absolutely ****ed like

[I P Knightley]

On 24/07/2020 at 21:22, RobNox said:

Maxwell will never make it to trial.  Too many powerful people have too much to lose if she decides to strike a deal, and let's face it, if she doesn't agree to a deal she will spend the rest of her life in prison.  Her father was suicided by Mossad when he tried to ransom Israel to bail him out of his financial mess.  

Was that the common conclusion? I didn't do much reading of the story at the time. Knew Cap'n Bob's demise was dodgy and his two sons who took over MGN got no good publicity. I always found it funny that he named his boys about as ordinary as you could name boys (Kevin and Ian) whilst his daughter had an exotic, unpronounceable handle.

 

She'll want to be careful when being transferred from jail to courthouse. Keep a look out for a white Fiat Uno.

[Notts1874]

It seems his little black book has made it online. 

Anybody want the number for Andy? 

[A Boy Named Crow]

1 hour ago, Notts1874 said:

It seems his little black book has made it online. 

Anybody want the number for Andy? 

It'd be interesting to check that number against the bookings at a certain Pizza Express 

[Notts1874]

6 minutes ago, A Boy Named Crow said:

It'd be interesting to check that number against the bookings at a certain Pizza Express 

I can give you a load of ex directory numbers for him at his various abodes. Including Buckingham Palace. 

Before the Mods get all panicking I'm not putting them on here😂😂

[A Boy Named Crow]

22 minutes ago, Notts1874 said:

I can give you a load of ex directory numbers for him at his various abodes. Including Buckingham Palace. 

Before the Mods get all panicking I'm not putting them on here😂😂

Aw go on, what's the harm?

[Notts1874]

39 minutes ago, A Boy Named Crow said:

Aw go on, what's the harm?

Not a chance 😂😂

 

The names have been out for ages but with contact details blacked out. These aren't blacked out. 

Phil Collins and Susannah from Trinny and Susannah. Got their numbers 😂😂😂

[Greedy Jambo]

3 hours ago, Notts1874 said:

Not a chance 😂😂

 

The names have been out for ages but with contact details blacked out. These aren't blacked out. 

Phil Collins and Susannah from Trinny and Susannah. Got their numbers 😂😂😂

 

That's an interesting hobbie you've got there😆

[Notts1874]

10 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

That's an interesting hobbie you've got there😆

More my mate who posted them in the group chat 😂😂😂

[escobri]

Some high profile names to be released in the new year 👀 

[hughesie27]

14 minutes ago, escobri said:

Some high profile names to be released in the new year 👀 

170 of them.

[escobri]

2 hours ago, hughesie27 said:

170 of them.

It will be interesting to see if the names released are on the lists that are doing the rounds.

[heatonjambo]

2 hours ago, escobri said:

It will be interesting to see if the names released are on the lists that are doing the rounds.

Wot lists out if interest if I are able to say

[escobri]

1 hour ago, heatonjambo said:

Wot lists out if interest if I are able to say

Not sure if the mods will approve of posting any here, just go searching and go down the rabbit hole.

[Day@theraces]

They are all despicable cretins. But the real puppet masters will be left out of this list, If indeed it comes out, which I hope it does. Seen a few names on the lolita express logs whom I really liked. Hard to see people you grew up enjoying be associated with such depravity but that's Hollywood and those in money for you.

[Day@theraces]

1 hour ago, escobri said:

Not sure if the mods will approve of posting any here, just go searching and go down the rabbit hole.

Pm me a link of you could please.

[Stuart Lyon]

Is Prince Andrew sweating now?

[escobri]

5 hours ago, Stuart Lyon said:

Is Prince Andrew sweating now?

 

[AlimOzturk]

Lots of rumours flying around about who it could be. Some huge name. 
 

Lots of celebrities shitting themselves atm. 

[Cade]

Keep an eye on anybody suddenly gaining citizenship with a non-extradition country......

[Dawnrazor]

2 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

Lots of rumours flying around about who it could be. Some huge name. 
 

Lots of celebrities shitting themselves atm. 

Where are you seeing the rumours?

[Konrad von Carstein]

"document cloud" has a redacted, not names, list that it says it is his little black book.

 

Was going to include a couple but not wanting the ban hammer ⚒️

 

[Tazio]

https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1737838929452401076?s=61&t=1VODt4ofNc2rX-OOq_OUFw

[Lone Striker]

On 20/12/2023 at 08:06, Stuart Lyon said:

Is Prince Andrew sweating now?

 

It will also be interesting to know which of the  147 names were "clients", and which were "suppliers".

 

 

Its a pity Ricky Gervais won't be hosting  the Golden Globes any more.     

 

 

[Tazio]

Well that’s the list out now. 

[Dawnrazor]

3 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Well that’s the list out now. 

Can you see who's on it anywhere yet?

[Tazio]

11 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

Can you see who's on it anywhere yet?

I think it’s going to be a while as the list includes people not implicated and runs to over 900 pages of documents. Any decent news source is going to be very careful about what they post. The BBC have the list but are reviewing it before publishing anything. 

[Dawnrazor]

3 minutes ago, Tazio said:

I think it’s going to be a while as the list includes people not implicated and runs to over 900 pages of documents. Any decent news source is going to be very careful about what they post. The BBC have the list but are reviewing it before publishing anything. 

👍

[Day@theraces]

God bless the judge who has helped release this. Nice to see some holier than thou names on there. Mr Hanks for one.

[the posh bit]

Prince Andrew named. 

[Der Kaiser]

1. Ghislaine Maxwell
2. Virginia Lee Roberts Giuffre
3. Kathy Alexander
4. Miles Alexander
5. James Michael Austrich
6. Philip Barden
7. REDACTED
8. David Boies
9. Laura Boothe
10. Evelyn Boulet
11. Rebecca Boylan
12. Joshua Bunner
13. Carolyn Casey
14. Paul Cassell
15. Sharon Churcher
16. Alexandra Cousteau
17. Alan Dershowitz
18. Dr. Mona Devanesan
19. REDACTED
20. Bradley Edwards
21. Amanda Ellison
22. Cimberly Espinosa
23. Jeffrey Epstein
24. Annie Farmer
25. Marie Farmer
26. Alexandra Fekkai
27. Crystal Figueroa
28. Anthony Figueroa
29. Louis Freeh
30. Eric Gany
31. Meg Garvin
32. Sheridan Gibson-Butte
33. Robert Giuffre
34. Ross Gow
35. Fred Graff
36. Philip Guderyon
37. REDACTED
38. Shannon Harrison
39. Victoria Hazel
40. Brittany Henderson
41. Brett Jaffe
42. Carol Roberts Kess
43. Dr. Karen Kutikoff
44. Peter Listerman
45. Tony Lyons
46. Bob Meister
47. Jamie A. Melanson
48. Lynn Miller
49. Marvin Minsky
50. REDACTED
51. David Mullen
52. Joe Pagano
53. Mary Paluga
54. J. Stanley Pottinger
55. Joseph Recarey
56. Michael Reiter
57. Jason Richards
58. Bill Richardson
59. Sky Roberts
60. Scott Rothstein
61. Forest Sawyer
62. Doug Schoetlle
63. Cecilia Stein
64. Mark Tafoya
65. Brent Tindall
66. Kevin Thompson
67. Ed Tuttle
68. Emma Vaghan
69. Kimberly Vaughan-Edwards
70. Cresenda Valdes
71. Anthony Valladares
72. Maritza Vazquez
73. Vicky Ward
74. Jarred Weisfeld
75. Courtney Wild
76. Daniel Wilson
77. Andrew Albert Christian Edwards, Duke of York

This list is on Newsweek.com

[Day@theraces]

5 minutes ago, Der Kaiser said:

1. Ghislaine Maxwell
2. Virginia Lee Roberts Giuffre
3. Kathy Alexander
4. Miles Alexander
5. James Michael Austrich
6. Philip Barden
7. REDACTED
8. David Boies
9. Laura Boothe
10. Evelyn Boulet
11. Rebecca Boylan
12. Joshua Bunner
13. Carolyn Casey
14. Paul Cassell
15. Sharon Churcher
16. Alexandra Cousteau
17. Alan Dershowitz
18. Dr. Mona Devanesan
19. REDACTED
20. Bradley Edwards
21. Amanda Ellison
22. Cimberly Espinosa
23. Jeffrey Epstein
24. Annie Farmer
25. Marie Farmer
26. Alexandra Fekkai
27. Crystal Figueroa
28. Anthony Figueroa
29. Louis Freeh
30. Eric Gany
31. Meg Garvin
32. Sheridan Gibson-Butte
33. Robert Giuffre
34. Ross Gow
35. Fred Graff
36. Philip Guderyon
37. REDACTED
38. Shannon Harrison
39. Victoria Hazel
40. Brittany Henderson
41. Brett Jaffe
42. Carol Roberts Kess
43. Dr. Karen Kutikoff
44. Peter Listerman
45. Tony Lyons
46. Bob Meister
47. Jamie A. Melanson
48. Lynn Miller
49. Marvin Minsky
50. REDACTED
51. David Mullen
52. Joe Pagano
53. Mary Paluga
54. J. Stanley Pottinger
55. Joseph Recarey
56. Michael Reiter
57. Jason Richards
58. Bill Richardson
59. Sky Roberts
60. Scott Rothstein
61. Forest Sawyer
62. Doug Schoetlle
63. Cecilia Stein
64. Mark Tafoya
65. Brent Tindall
66. Kevin Thompson
67. Ed Tuttle
68. Emma Vaghan
69. Kimberly Vaughan-Edwards
70. Cresenda Valdes
71. Anthony Valladares
72. Maritza Vazquez
73. Vicky Ward
74. Jarred Weisfeld
75. Courtney Wild
76. Daniel Wilson
77. Andrew Albert Christian Edwards, Duke of York

This list is on Newsweek.com

 

Redacted must be a dirty bugger.

[ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ]

Just now, Day@theraces said:

 

Redacted must be a dirty bugger.

 

Smelly, in fact

[Der Kaiser]

Trump, Clinton, Andrew, Glenn Dubin and Jean Luc Brunel also mentioned as well