Captain Slog Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Justin Z said: Each state can assign its electoral college votes as it wishes. Maine and Nebraska choose to split theirs based on the winner getting a baseline number and then the rest being divided up by vote proportion. Thanks, its a learning curve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kalamazoo Jambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Each state can assign its electoral college votes as it wishes. Maine and Nebraska choose to split theirs based on the winner getting a baseline number and then the rest being divided up by vote proportion. is that correct? I thought it was by congressional district but admit I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Each state can assign its electoral college votes as it wishes. Maine and Nebraska choose to split theirs based on the winner getting a baseline number and then the rest being divided up by vote proportion. Thanks again Justin. It's so inconsistent and ridden with anomalies. The 3 votes minimum for minuscule population states is seriously dodgy and probably hands an unfair built in advantage to the Republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Justin Z said: @Kalamazoo Jambo In Amash We Trust (despite being a crazy libertarian) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Kalamazoo Jambo said: is that correct? I thought it was by congressional district but admit I could be wrong. You are correct, as far as I can see. https://www.270towin.com/content/split-electoral-votes-maine-and-nebraska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Justin Z said: @Kalamazoo Jambo he's some machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Exit polling showing that registered Republicans voted for Trump 93% of the time, up from 90% in 2016. What a blinder Biden played, reaching across the aisle while carpetbombing progressives. Thanks especially go the Lincoln Grifters, er, Project. This is not aimed at you but I hate the word progressives, especially when it’s used by people speaking about themselves. Such a self-righteous term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said: is that correct? I thought it was by congressional district but admit I could be wrong. Yep, you're right, it's not really proportional. I blame the jet lag. Anyway the main point is, they are the two that don't do it on a whole state basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: This is not aimed at you but I hate the word progressives, especially when it’s used by people speaking about themselves. Such a self-righteous term “Socialist” has been deemed verboten by American propaganda, and let's not even get into “communist”. I dunno what folk on the actual left (i.e. not liberals) are supposed to refer to themselves anymore tbh. That's probably also by design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Yep, you're right, it's not really proportional. I blame the jet lag. Anyway the main point is, they are the two that don't do it on a whole state basis. No worries and good luck with the jet lag. Mind you, I feel jet lagged and I haven’t flown for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Something tells me that Georgia might swing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Yep, you're right, it's not really proportional. I blame the jet lag. Anyway the main point is, they are the two that don't do it on a whole state basis. Can I assume you're finally back then? If so, congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, redjambo said: Something tells me that Georgia might swing this. Much more likely to be Pennsylvania. Trumpet's lead has shrunk from 700k to 470k with 20% of votes to come, mostly postal ones in Pittsburgh & Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, J.T.F.Robertson said: Can I assume you're finally back then? If so, congrats. Cheers. What a relief 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, Gone said: I had CNN on earlier and you'd never guess they and Trump had a falling out. Biased as it gets haha I caught a bit of the BBC coverage. They seem to be a lot braver today in calling him out for his arseholery; giving his quote and then saying, "for which there is absolutely no evidence." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 For reference, this is what the map looked like in 1980: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Justin Z said: Cheers. What a relief 😅 May I add my good wishes that you're back in Alba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Justin Z said: Cheers. What a relief 😅 You're in Embra? Well done that man! Hopefully you've secured employment and a longer stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, redjambo said: May I add my good wishes that you're back in Alba. Much appreciated Feel like there ought to be many, many pints on me once that is a realistic proposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, SwindonJambo said: You're in Embra? Well done that man! Hopefully you've secured employment and a longer stay. Details, details We'll yet see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Recount to happen in Wisconsin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Cruyff said: Trumps won ffs with 290 EC votes. Bidens got 259 or something. Trumps skooshed it. Not even close. Biden is a certainty now. Though they've magiced up 500,000 votes from somewhere for Trump in Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 CNN going on about something to do with postal votes in Pennsylvania not moving through the system at all yesterday, about 30K or more. Didn't catch it all, but heard something about a judge wanting answers from the postmaster general or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Justin Z said: For reference, this is what the map looked like in 1980: Crikey, how fascinating. What a thrashing the still alive today Jimmy Carter took. But what strikes me even more is the allocation of Electoral College votes and how much they differ from today, which I suppose is a reflection of population shifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Barack said: Perfectly entitled. In fact, bash on. Time is against them, as per their own WI Supreme Court's legislation. There was a recount in Wisconsin 4 years ago and it led to a net gain for Trump of 131 votes. Biden is up by 20,000 this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Barack said: Perfectly entitled. In fact, bash on. Time is against them, as per their own WI Supreme Court's legislation. WI election official says that can’t be until the result Is until official on Dec 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, SwindonJambo said: Crikey, how fascinating. What a thrashing the still alive today Jimmy Carter took. But what strikes me even more is the allocation of Electoral College votes and how much they differ from today, which I suppose is a reflection of population shifts. Carter is a gentleman and an absolute ledge. Absolutely on the population shifts. What a difference for Arizona and Nevada, for example! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: I caught a bit of the BBC coverage. They seem to be a lot braver today in calling him out for his arseholery; giving his quote and then saying, "for which there is absolutely no evidence." James Cook on Radio Scotland, 'Let's make this very clear, there is no evidence being offered, and there is no sign of any evidence.....' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Sixty. Years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Cheers. What a relief 😅 Good news. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Biden is a certainty now. Though they've magiced up 500,000 votes from somewhere for Trump in Arizona. Thank feck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Carter is a gentleman and an absolute ledge. Absolutely on the population shifts. What a difference for Arizona and Nevada, for example! Not to mention huge shrinkages in the Mid West with the decline if heavy industry since then. Presumably it was 270 to win back then too? I always liked Jimmy Carter. Just a shame the Iranian thing destroyed his election hopes. How embarrassing to lose to dawdery old fool Reagan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: This is not aimed at you but I hate the word progressives, especially when it’s used by people speaking about themselves. Such a self-righteous term I think it's simply meant to be the opposite of conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Sadly no chance that Dems will gain a majority in the Senate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said: Sadly no chance that Dems will gain a majority in the Senate. What a farce the Senate is. Crazy they it's referred to as a democratic institution. Saw some stat the other day (might have been a near future projection but still) that 30% of the population are represented by 70% of the senators and vice versa. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: It’s completely insane that every postal vote wasn’t received and counted in time for polling day. That’s the whole fecking point of it. What a shambles Not sure of the chronological order and if it would make any difference this time but Pennsylvania changed their timings to allow later receipt of votes, which was approved at Supreme Court. However, remember the current incumbent President put one of his pals in charge of the USPS who just happened to make changes to suppress the ability to vote by mail. I think it was PA Secretary of State on re postal date marks that can't be read and they said envelopes can be tracked end to end and only a v.small number can be disputed and won't be counted. Mind you a journalist asked if a postal ballot arrived on election day with no post date mark what would happen and was told as it had arrived on election day of course it would be counted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said: Sadly no chance that Dems will gain a majority in the Senate. That means nothing will get done in Washington, even if Biden wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Trump shortening again on the betting markets. Not sure if someone knows something I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: That means nothing will get done in Washington, even if Biden wins. Aye are probably more happy about that and a lot will actually be glad to see the back of Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gashauskis9 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Boy on CNN just mispronounced Twitter as Clitter. Been a long day, but I’m easily amused! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Hopefully Biden is elected but i do worry about the Dems foreign policy. Trump must be one of the only presidents not to have been involved in invasions or wars in other countries. However his middle East policy has inflamed the situation there , moving the American Embassy to Jerusalem. being one of the those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said: What a farce the Senate is. Crazy they it's referred to as a democratic institution. Saw some stat the other day (might have been a near future projection but still) that 30% of the population are represented by 70% of the senators and vice versa. 😄 To be fair, it's not meant to be a democratic institution at all; it's decidedly republican, and the whole point is that this can happen. A rough analogy would be that Malta has the same number of representatives in the European commission as Germany (one each). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Stokesy said: Trump shortening again on the betting markets. Not sure if someone knows something I don't. Yeah the bookies are hardly ever wrong..? Brexit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 55 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Cheers. What a relief 😅 Are you quarantined? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: Are you quarantined? Yeah, two weeks of it. They joy of being from the plague capital of the world, thanks Donnie! Edited November 4, 2020 by Justin Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Intake it Bernie Sanders is just unelectable because he’s been classed as a communist by republicans and that has stuck? should add, I’m asking because I find it amazing that Biden is deemed the most electable candidate. Edited November 4, 2020 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Yeah, two weeks of it. They joy of being from the plague capital of the world, thanks Donnie! Is the quarantine for Covid or Hibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: Intake it Bernie Sanders is just unelectable because he’s been classed as a communist by republicans and that has stuck? should add, I’m asking because I find it amazing that Biden is deemed the most electable candidate. Well as we have seen the past 18 hours or so, Biden as the “most electable” is an absolute canard, parroted uncritically by a corporate media interested only in their own ratings and class interests. Instead the Democrats have lost seats in the House, won't regain the Senate, and barely look to have won the presidency. I have already shared a few thoughts why I think Sanders would have won this in a landslide, further up the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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