BBC Question Time from Edinburgh

[frankblack]

1 minute ago, Herbert said:

What I find intresting is people that want independence welcome immigrants/refugees  with open arms. I'm pro independence but the only ones we should let in are those with skills we need or with the means to support themselves while they search for work. I was at Tesco at Queensferry last night and it was a Romanian/Bulgarian  selling the big issue. When I walk along the high street its Romanians that are begging we have enough homeless,wasters, junkies beggers and scroungers to deal with without importing them. Why should we burden ourselves with other countries problems when we have people that cant feed themselves. People that milk the system take money from our pockets. We should be independent but we shouldn't just bend over to the EU. The SNP are backing themselves into a corner of being too liberal and its going to get to the stage they are seen as a joke just as UKIP were seen as a joke for being too hardline. We need a putin type in charge that will make unpopular choices like hitting the rich with higher tex and chasing big companies for tax and stop letting them get away with tax dodges to get the economy moving again,to give the country a lift and tell trump to butt out . The Westminster government don't care about Scotland that much is clear, Donald Trump has more of say in British politics than Scotland.

 

I've said before, that we need a points based system so that we can prioritise the sectors that can't satisfy demand from the local population.

 

What we should discourage is driving down of wages by bringing in staff from overseas when there are local workers to employ.  I work in IT and see this all the time.  Too many firms do not invest in graduates and training and look to get people trained up by other companies.

 

I think teams in offices need a balance of trainees through to experienced staff, and if you provide a good enough career path you might get some loyalty from your staff that you have trained up from the ground.

 

The current system is biased towards EU people whereas post Brexit we could select the best people on merit.  Plenty of Indians have good English and can integrate well in skilled employment.

[i8hibsh]

8 minutes ago, Herbert said:

What I find intresting is people that want independence welcome immigrants/refugees  with open arms. I'm pro independence but the only ones we should let in are those with skills we need or with the means to support themselves while they search for work. I was at Tesco at Queensferry last night and it was a Romanian/Bulgarian  selling the big issue. When I walk along the high street its Romanians that are begging we have enough homeless,wasters, junkies beggers and scroungers to deal with without importing them. Why should we burden ourselves with other countries problems when we have people that cant feed themselves. People that milk the system take money from our pockets. We should be independent but we shouldn't just bend over to the EU. The SNP are backing themselves into a corner of being too liberal and its going to get to the stage they are seen as a joke just as UKIP were seen as a joke for being too hardline. We need a putin type in charge that will make unpopular choices like hitting the rich with higher tex and chasing big companies for tax and stop letting them get away with tax dodges to get the economy moving again,to give the country a lift and tell trump to butt out . The Westminster government don't care about Scotland that much is clear, Donald Trump has more of say in British politics than Scotland.

 

 

I love immigration.  British people live all over the world and we must also welcome people to our shores, there is a lot to gain from it.

 

 

However, Now the nicey nice bit is out of the way, here is where shit gets real and some people need to strap on a set, grow up and say what they feel and not what they feel is the right thing to say.

 

·         It is not what we can do for someone coming in, it is what they can do for us.

·         Our way of life, customs, traditions and values are 100% non-negotiable

·         Someone wanting to live here needs to fit in or **** off

·         We do not owe anyone anything – Why would we pay for what our great ancestors did? What is fair about that

·         One strike and you are out, seriously, the fire tracks will be seen behind their feet at the speed they should be chucked out

·         Contribute or **** off

·         No queue jumping for anything, we live (or at least try) to live in a fair society.

·         Absolutely no special privileges, we live (or at least try) to live in a fair society.

 

 

Now, on the other side, this should apply to those already here:

 

·         Anyone who treats anyone who adheres to the above anything less than a first class citizen can get to ****

·         Anyone who harms someone based on their identity can **** right off

·         Anyone who complains about immigrants taking all our jobs (something that does not sit well with me) whilst they sit on their fat arse and scrounge all day    can **** right off

·         Someone who lives here and contributes to the system is as entitled as you are!

[Bridge of Djoum]

4 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

I love immigration.  British people live all over the world and we must also welcome people to our shores, there is a lot to gain from it.

 

 

However, Now the nicey nice bit is out of the way, here is where shit gets real and some people need to strap on a set, grow up and say what they feel and not what they feel is the right thing to say.

 

·         It is not what we can do for someone coming in, it is what they can do for us.

·         Our way of life, customs, traditions and values are 100% non-negotiable

·         Someone wanting to live here needs to fit in or **** off

·         We do not owe anyone anything – Why would we pay for what our great ancestors did? What is fair about that

·         One strike and you are out, seriously, the fire tracks will be seen behind their feet at the speed they should be chucked out

·         Contribute or **** off

·         No queue jumping for anything, we live (or at least try) to live in a fair society.

·         Absolutely no special privileges, we live (or at least try) to live in a fair society.

 

 

Now, on the other side, this should apply to those already here:

 

·         Anyone who treats anyone who adheres to the above anything less than a first class citizen can get to ****

·         Anyone who harms someone based on their identity can **** right off

·         Anyone who complains about immigrants taking all our jobs (something that does not sit well with me) whilst they sit on their fat arse and scrounge all day    can **** right off

·         Someone who lives here and contributes to the system is as entitled as you are!

I broadly agree with most of this, however I don't quite know what these are. Could you please explain what British customs, traditions and values are? Sorry, but I'm ****** if I'm respecting Morris dancing, the Catholic church or voting for Brexit. 

[i8hibsh]

5 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

I broadly agree with most of this, however I don't quite know what these are. Could you please explain what British customs, traditions and values are? Sorry, but I'm ****** if I'm respecting Morris dancing, the Catholic church or voting for Brexit. 

 

 

Our customs are that you don't have to!

[Bridge of Djoum]

16 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Our customs are that you don't have to!

Seriously though. What are they? 

[i8hibsh]

2 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

Seriously though. What are they? 

 

Generally speaking I just summed it up.  We have or at least should have freedom’s here.  Freedom for a girl to walk about in a short skirt, freedom for anyone to do anything they want within the law, say anything they want within the law.  We don’t have to respect anything and the only laws we stick to are our constitutional ones.  We like alcohol (way too much), we will eat what we want, listen to what we want or watch what we want.

 

If someone doesn’t like something then we can be free to change it or at least try and change it.  Our men and women are equal.  What we consenting adults do in their own privacy is their business, no-one else’s.  Homosexuality is not a sin on our shores and sex is not a dirty word.  If someone wishes to wear a condom then it is no-one’s ****ing business.  We have (or at least should) have one set of laws.  If I can’t wear a balaclava into a bank (not that I ever would) a woman should not be allowed to go in with every part of her covered bar her eyes.  We live in a  country that should offer no special privileges – no-one is that special!

 

If anyone has an issue with this, please note: you are VERY VERY free to leave.

[Thommo414]

2 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

It is getting tiresome and imo consuming the country.  Genuinely see no point of return either.  We are fractured.

Spot on with this. Remember when a political debate on Scotland was about the merits of either socialism or conservatism? 

 

Nowadays its 

Snp: Westminster hasn't kept its promises to Scotland (its never kept its promises to anyone, never mind Scotland) 

Conservatives: mention the fabled 2nd referendum more than every other party combined whether its relevant or not

Labour: I've given up trying to analyse these people

Lib Dems: to the SNP "YOU CAN'T HAVE A SECOND REFERENDUM"; to the Tories "WE DEMAND A SECOND BREXIT REFERENDUM. 1 MILLION VOTES WASN'T ENOUGH" 

 

Greens: Meh

 

 

If Scottish politics ever reverts to a left/right debate, I'll be astounded 

[Boris]

1 hour ago, Herbert said:

What I find intresting is people that want independence welcome immigrants/refugees  with open arms. I'm pro independence but the only ones we should let in are those with skills we need or with the means to support themselves while they search for work. I was at Tesco at Queensferry last night and it was a Romanian/Bulgarian  selling the big issue.

 

We can send people back if they don't have work after three months.  It's an EU practice.  Not the persons fault our Westminster Government don't "take (back) control" of that!

 

1 hour ago, Herbert said:

 

When I walk along the high street its Romanians that are begging we have enough homeless,wasters, junkies beggers and scroungers to deal with without importing them.

 

See above.  But if they are begging, then they probably aren't in receipt of any government aid?  I wonder where our "wasters, junkies beggers and scroungers" have gone if it was just Romanians you saw?

 

1 hour ago, Herbert said:

 

Why should we burden ourselves with other countries problems when we have people that cant feed themselves. People that milk the system take money from our pockets.

 

Fat cats, amirite???

 

Not really sure what your point is here - sure, people take liberties with benefits, and that's wrong, but millions also go unclaimed.  Not to mention tax avoidance and evasion and its effect on the treasury..

 

https://www.indy100.com/article/benefit-fraud-tax-dodging-paradise-papers-evasion-avoidance-billions-government-statistics-8056846 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/britain-s-massive-unclaimed-benefits-failure-and-how-to-fix-it-a7679721.html 

 

1 hour ago, Herbert said:

 

We should be independent but we shouldn't just bend over to the EU. The SNP are backing themselves into a corner of being too liberal and its going to get to the stage they are seen as a joke just as UKIP were seen as a joke for being too hardline.

 

I am at a loss.

 

1 hour ago, Herbert said:

We need a putin type in charge that will make unpopular choices like hitting the rich with higher tex and chasing big companies for tax and stop letting them get away with tax dodges to get the economy moving again,to give the country a lift and tell trump to butt out . The Westminster government don't care about Scotland that much is clear, Donald Trump has more of say in British politics than Scotland.

 

Even more so now.  If get a Putin type then the big companies will get hit but none of that money will filter into Government spending.

 

Nice to read your proto-fascist manifesto though!

[Geoff the Mince]

2 minutes ago, Boris said:

 

We can send people back if they don't have work after three months.  It's an EU practice.  Not the persons fault our Westminster Government don't "take (back) control" of that!

 

 

See above.  But if they are begging, then they probably aren't in receipt of any government aid?  I wonder where our "wasters, junkies beggers and scroungers" have gone if it was just Romanians you saw?

 

 

Fat cats, amirite???

 

Not really sure what your point is here - sure, people take liberties with benefits, and that's wrong, but millions also go unclaimed.  Not to mention tax avoidance and evasion and its effect on the treasury..

 

https://www.indy100.com/article/benefit-fraud-tax-dodging-paradise-papers-evasion-avoidance-billions-government-statistics-8056846

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/britain-s-massive-unclaimed-benefits-failure-and-how-to-fix-it-a7679721.html

 

 

I am at a loss.

 

 

Even more so now.  If get a Putin type then the big companies will get hit but none of that money will filter into Government spending.

 

Nice to read your proto-fascist manifesto though!

[i8hibsh]

 

 

In a nutshell here is how the SNP operate:

 

Those that are successful and have no interest in the SNP work their arses off and now pay a higher rate of tax.  They are pissed off but the SNP do not care, they know they will never win their vote so just want their money.

 

Use this money to promise those outside of the top group and outwith their core following promises of Utopian wonderlands of unicorns and pixies where everything is free and wonderful.

 

Keep partying and protesting with their cult following.

 

Taking every single separatist cause on the planet and getting on board with it.

 

Bleeting on about how much they want to remain in Europe (even although many of their supporters don’t want to be)

 

Spend every second of everyday highlighting how pc and progressive they are.  Unless you are in LGBTQ, a refugee, a disabled person, someone of colour, a female, a Muslim or a small child they simply want nothing to do with you.

 

Blame Westminster for ____________________(insert most recent event)_____________________________

 

[Boris]

7 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

In a nutshell here is how the SNP operate:

 

Those that are successful and have no interest in the SNP work their arses off and now pay a higher rate of tax.  They are pissed off but the SNP do not care, they know they will never win their vote so just want their money.

 

Use this money to promise those outside of the top group and outwith their core following promises of Utopian wonderlands of unicorns and pixies where everything is free and wonderful.

 

Keep partying and protesting with their cult following.

 

Taking every single separatist cause on the planet and getting on board with it.

 

Bleeting on about how much they want to remain in Europe (even although many of their supporters don’t want to be)

 

Spend every second of everyday highlighting how pc and progressive they are.  Unless you are in LGBTQ, a refugee, a disabled person, someone of colour, a female, a Muslim or a small child they simply want nothing to do with you.

 

Blame Westminster for ____________________(insert most recent event)_____________________________

 

 

[Herbert.]

6 minutes ago, Boris said:

 

We can send people back if they don't have work after three months.  It's an EU practice.  Not the persons fault our Westminster Government don't "take (back) control" of that!

 

 

See above.  But if they are begging, then they probably aren't in receipt of any government aid?  I wonder where our "wasters, junkies beggers and scroungers" have gone if it was just Romanians you saw?

 

Why let someone in that cant speak English and is unskilled in the first place? We need immigrants that fill the gaps in the NHS, Engineering and construction sectors not one that stands with a big issue or sits in a doorway with a Costa cup. There are british beggers aswell but what can we do about them? That's a whole other argument.

 

6 minutes ago, Boris said:

 

 

Fat cats, amirite???

 

Not really sure what your point is here - sure, people take liberties with benefits, and that's wrong, but millions also go unclaimed.  Not to mention tax avoidance and evasion and its effect on the treasury..

 

https://www.indy100.com/article/benefit-fraud-tax-dodging-paradise-papers-evasion-avoidance-billions-government-statistics-8056846

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/britain-s-massive-unclaimed-benefits-failure-and-how-to-fix-it-a7679721.html

 

 

I am at a loss.

 

 

Even more so now.  If get a Putin type then the big companies will get hit but none of that money will filter into Government spending.

 

Nice to read your proto-fascist manifesto though!

 

I said putin type. Look what he's done for the Russian economy then look at ours with the likes of Blair,Brown,Cameron and May. These are all weak people they are either American lapdogs or get bossed about by the EU and let the likes of cadburys get away with only paying 7M in tax. Either they pay what they are due or they dont get to trade here. Atleast Putin has the balls to tell the EU and USA to bolt which we need to do sometimes and Russia is a growing economy, we are a stagnant economy which one would you rather have? 

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

3 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

I stand corrected.

 

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 hour ago, Boris said:

 

[Governor Tarkin]

41 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

I said putin type. Look what he's done for the Russian economy then look at ours with the likes of Blair,Brown,Cameron and May. These are all weak people they are either American lapdogs or get bossed about by the EU and let the likes of cadburys get away with only paying 7M in tax. Either they pay what they are due or they dont get to trade here. Atleast Putin has the balls to tell the EU and USA to bolt which we need to do sometimes and Russia is a growing economy, we are a stagnant economy which one would you rather have? 

 

Most educated Russians that I know don't like Mr Putin very much.

[The Old Tolbooth]

1 hour ago, Boris said:

 

 

[FORTHCLYDE]

If Scotland vote no in Indyref 2 Can Hearts play in the English Football league? 

[Herbert.]

29 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Most educated Russians that I know don't like Mr Putin very much.

 

I'm sure they don't but all I'm saying is that we need someone that can do what he's done for russia for us. I'm not saying I want all corruption and lies we have enough of that now. We need someone that isnt afraid to tell the truth about how bad things are and to say they've messed up. 

[Governor Tarkin]

13 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

I'm sure they don't but all I'm saying is that we need someone that can do what he's done for russia for us. I'm not saying I want all corruption and lies we have enough of that now. We need someone that isnt afraid to tell the truth about how bad things are and to say they've messed up. 

 

A bit like what brought Hitler to power in the '30s?

 

I do have sympathy with your viewpoint though as we are clearly short of visionary political leadership at the moment. However a dictatorial strongman type is probably not the progressive answer. Unfortunately I don't really have one either.

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

I love immigration.  British people live all over the world and we must also welcome people to our shores, there is a lot to gain from it.

 

 

However, Now the nicey nice bit is out of the way, here is where shit gets real and some people need to strap on a set, grow up and say what they feel and not what they feel is the right thing to say.

 

·         It is not what we can do for someone coming in, it is what they can do for us.

·         Our way of life, customs, traditions and values are 100% non-negotiable

·         Someone wanting to live here needs to fit in or **** off

·         We do not owe anyone anything – Why would we pay for what our great ancestors did? What is fair about that

·         One strike and you are out, seriously, the fire tracks will be seen behind their feet at the speed they should be chucked out

·         Contribute or **** off

·         No queue jumping for anything, we live (or at least try) to live in a fair society.

·         Absolutely no special privileges, we live (or at least try) to live in a fair society.

 

 

Now, on the other side, this should apply to those already here:

 

·         Anyone who treats anyone who adheres to the above anything less than a first class citizen can get to ****

·         Anyone who harms someone based on their identity can **** right off

·         Anyone who complains about immigrants taking all our jobs (something that does not sit well with me) whilst they sit on their fat arse and scrounge all day    can **** right off

·         Someone who lives here and contributes to the system is as entitled as you are!

Should i be worried that I am agreeing on many of your posts whilst on other i am flabbergasted lol ?

[Herbert.]

14 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

A bit like what brought Hitler to power in the '30s?

 

I do have sympathy with your viewpoint though as we are clearly short of visionary political leadership at the moment. However a dictatorial strongman type is probably not the progressive answer. Unfortunately I don't really have one either.

 

 

Our only choice is voting politicians in that are happy to lie,cheat and backstab. Every single one of them is out to profit from themselves, it doesn't matter who you vote for the result is always the same lies and broken promises. When you see them squabbling on TV it's pathetic. The tories,Labour,Lib dem who ever would **** Scotland up as much as the SNP have and instead of trying to fix it they just want to point score. The answer is to get rid of political parties and get more lower class into parliament.

[i8hibsh]

16 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Should i be worried that I am agreeing on many of your posts whilst on other i am flabbergasted lol ?

 

 

Many people do agree so don't feel bad

 

 

 

It is just not very cool to say so

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Many people do agree so don't feel bad

 

 

 

It is just not very cool to say so

Ive never been bothered about the " cool" crowd . Im a law unto myself. 

[i8hibsh]

25 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Ive never been bothered about the " cool" crowd . Im a law unto myself. 

 

 

That is you on the watch list now from them.  Your days are numbered on here.

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

That is you on the watch list now from them.  Your days are numbered on here.

Everyone on one watch list or another its big brother territory

[Auld Reekin']

7 hours ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

I broadly agree with most of this, however I don't quite know what these are. Could you please explain what British customs, traditions and values are? Sorry, but I'm ****** if I'm respecting Morris dancing, the Catholic church or voting for Brexit. 

 

Yep - that's the only point that I would have any issue with at all, as it's so woolly, subjective, and difficult to define or agree upon.

 

Like JamesM48, I am now deeply concerned that I agree with almost all of a (relatively long) post of i8's...    

 

Who do I turn to for help...???

Edited October 11, 2018 by Auld Reekin'

[i8hibsh]

6 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Yep - that's the only point that I would have any issue with at all, as it's so woolly, subjective, and difficult to define or agree upon.

 

Like JamesM48, I am now deeply concerned that I agree with almost all of a (relatively long) post of i8's...    

 

Who do I turn to for help...???

 

 

There is no help.

[jack D and coke]

19 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Yep - that's the only point that I would have any issue with at all, as it's so woolly, subjective, and difficult to define or agree upon.

 

Like JamesM48, I am now deeply concerned that I agree with almost all of a (relatively long) post of i8's...    

 

Who do I turn to for help...???

I8’s on the money quite a lot imo. Sometimes could get the points across slightly better but in general find myself laughing and agreeing with him a lot of the time. His post above is no different. 

Edited October 11, 2018 by jack D and coke

[Auld Reekin']

4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

I8’s on the money quite a lot imo. Sometimes could get the points across slightly better but in general find myself laughing and agreeing with him a lot of the time. His post above is no different. 

 

It was my... "first time"...   

 

[Geoff the Mince]

WE ARE ALL I8 

[JudyJudyJudy]

52 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Yep - that's the only point that I would have any issue with at all, as it's so woolly, subjective, and difficult to define or agree upon.

 

Like JamesM48, I am now deeply concerned that I agree with almost all of a (relatively long) post of i8's...    

 

Who do I turn to for help...???

 

Edited October 11, 2018 by JamesM48

[Captain America]

7 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

 

Generally speaking I just summed it up.  We have or at least should have freedom’s here.  Freedom for a girl to walk about in a short skirt, freedom for anyone to do anything they want within the law, say anything they want within the law.  We don’t have to respect anything and the only laws we stick to are our constitutional ones.  We like alcohol (way too much), we will eat what we want, listen to what we want or watch what we want.

 

If someone doesn’t like something then we can be free to change it or at least try and change it.  Our men and women are equal.  What we consenting adults do in their own privacy is their business, no-one else’s.  Homosexuality is not a sin on our shores and sex is not a dirty word.  If someone wishes to wear a condom then it is no-one’s ****ing business.  We have (or at least should) have one set of laws.  If I can’t wear a balaclava into a bank (not that I ever would) a woman should not be allowed to go in with every part of her covered bar her eyes.  We live in a  country that should offer no special privileges – no-one is that special!

 

If anyone has an issue with this, please note: you are VERY VERY free to leave.

I8's list prior to this reply I agreed with almost everything on, and would have said it was his best post to date until he came up with this. 

 

This to me deserves a 

 

Am a bit worried I agree with I8 more and more though. 

 

[ri Alban]

Why has everyone on the far left lost their sense of humour. The far right never had one. 

[jack D and coke]

59 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

It was my... "first time"...   

 

i8 has got your panties now tae then  

[Sir Vladimir of Romanov]

I8 is a leader amongst men, a true visionary 

[Bridge of Djoum]

1 hour ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Yep - that's the only point that I would have any issue with at all, as it's so woolly, subjective, and difficult to define or agree upon.

 

Like JamesM48, I am now deeply concerned that I agree with almost all of a (relatively long) post of i8's...    

 

Who do I turn to for help...???

You can still cleanse and redeme yourself by reviewing a lot of his old work and violently disagreeing with 99 per cent of it.

 

All is not lost, mon ami.

[Auld Reekin']

8 minutes ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said:

I8 is a leader amongst men, a true visionary 

 

Indeed, and the obvious choice (if you get a choice in such matters) for Herbert's Dictator For Life.

[Herbert.]

14 minutes ago, Auld Reekin' said:

 

Indeed, and the obvious choice (if you get a choice in such matters) for Herbert's Dictator For Life.

 

Nah, while I think he makes some good points he also wants to be part of the union. 

[Governor Tarkin]

Some of the lefty femenist types will be along shortly to try and de-rail the i8 juggernaut.

[LeftBack]

So the question is....what will the question be?

[i8hibsh]

1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said:

Some of the lefty femenist types will be along shortly to try and de-rail the i8 juggernaut.

 

 

Thing is though, absolutely nothing I have said could even be described as 'out there' or controversial. It is not even provocative. Who could pissibly not want that society. Who honestly does not want immigrants. I hate people at the best of times but **** me have some diversity out there. But what is diversity to me is not diversity to these people. A room full of women in hijabs is diversity to them. To me that is a room of women in hijabs. There is absolutely nothing diverse about a room full of women in hijabs. I also object to diversity quotas. Why exactly MUST we have a certain amount of men, women, people of colour,  LGBT people or Muslims. Why? Can we not just employ etc on merit? Surely that is the fairer society?

 

We all, or at least most decent people want a fair society. The big issue is most people have a differing opinion to what is fair and not fair.

Edited October 11, 2018 by i8hibsh

[Rousset1]

 

[Governor Tarkin]

17 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Thing is though, absolutely nothing I have said could even be described as 'out there' or controversial. It is not even provocative. Who could pissibly not want that society. Who honestly does not want immigrants. I hate people at the best of times but **** me have some diversity out there. But what is diversity to me is not diversity to these people. A room full of women in hijabs is diversity to them. To me that is a room of women in hijabs. There is absolutely nothing diverse about a room full of women in hijabs. I also object to diversity quotas. Why exactly MUST we have a certain amount of men, women, people of colour,  LGBT people or Muslims. Why? Can we not just employ etc on merit? Surely that is the fairer society?

 

We all, or at least most decent people want a fair society. The big issue is most people have a differing opinion to what is fair and not fair.

 

 

You offer simplistic explanations to complex issues based on a limited understanding amplified by a gender-biased, ethnocentic viewpoint.

 

Apart from that you're pretty much spot on. 

[Herbert.]

That woman's ear 

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

Dull as shit so far.

Edited October 11, 2018 by Dusk_Till_Dawn

[ri Alban]

Who's the maniac with the middleshed. 

[ri Alban]

41 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Thing is though, absolutely nothing I have said could even be described as 'out there' or controversial. It is not even provocative. Who could pissibly not want that society. Who honestly does not want immigrants. I hate people at the best of times but **** me have some diversity out there. But what is diversity to me is not diversity to these people. A room full of women in hijabs is diversity to them. To me that is a room of women in hijabs. There is absolutely nothing diverse about a room full of women in hijabs. I also object to diversity quotas. Why exactly MUST we have a certain amount of men, women, people of colour,  LGBT people or Muslims. Why? Can we not just employ etc on merit? Surely that is the fairer society?

 

We all, or at least most decent people want a fair society. The big issue is most people have a differing opinion to what is fair and not fair.

Pissiblyis now my jkb word of the year. 

[The Old Tolbooth]

Any question in support of Scottish independence is clearly being fudged over and they move on quickly, and Ross Thompson is a compete and utter waste of skin, what an absolute dweeb! 

[manaliveits105]

The Krankie wi the tartan scarf 

just feck aff

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

Just now, manaliveits105 said:

The Krankie wi the tartan scarf 

just feck aff

 

What a roaster.

 

that author bird as well, basically admitting earlier that she hates the English - which is what this is all about, after all