Салатные палочки Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 18 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said: Ha Ha Ha, Have you been to Chelsea recently I haven't and I wont ever. Or any English club for that matter. Suppose you're going to tell me how they are so diverse, multicultural abd oh so well behaved now? Probably all the tourists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 The world would be that little bit better without Rangers, Celtic and Glaswegians imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: The world would be that little bit better without Rangers, Celtic and Glaswegians imo. I certainly think the benefit would outweigh the cost, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said: I haven't and I wont ever. Or any English club for that matter. Suppose you're going to tell me how they are so diverse, multicultural abd oh so well behaved now? Probably all the tourists. The vast majority don't discriminate on the grounds of nationality or traveller status. The worlds changed mate, get out and have a look sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, Geoff the Mince said: Going to Chelsea is like going to Wimbedon for the Tennis . In a way it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkierobroy Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: The world would be that little bit better without Rangers, Celtic and Glaswegians imo. Well, thanks for wishing me out of existence, old chap. I'd refer you to any of my previous posts where I have reminded the slow of thinking (might include you, I'll reserve judgement) that the Celtic/Sevco fan bases are drawn from throughout Scotland and a small adjacent island, the more so if you include the pot-belied drunks who wear the tops and subscribe to the culture but never go to games. More people identify with Celtic or Sevco in Peterhead, Inverness, Dumfries, Kilmarnock, Ayr, Paisley, Dumbarton, Motherwell etc etc than with the respective local teams. They are a cancer on my native city, yep, but they are a cancer on the rest of Scotland as well, and beyond. Glasgow teams? I don't even think of them as Scottish teams, given the IRish, Union Jack and Ulster flags that proliferate in their sinkholes. Edinburgh, Dundee and Aberdeen are perhap places in Scotland less affected by the pull of the Old Firm. ALl the same, I think you'd be disturbed if there was ever a headcount. They're everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I was at the game and in the stadium. “A large group of Croats” I counted 17 fans inside the stadium until about 25 minutes into the game when the police escorted in around 60 more (tops) fans but the boys that came in went straight to the police barriers etc looking to stir it up. Outside from what i saw, was about 500 yards in front of me, few handbags and the usual pavement dancing stuff till we got closer and folk where signalling the boy had been slashed/stabbed. Couldn’t tell you who started what but anyone who takes a knife to the game is a joke. I’d also echo the police Scotland are a joke statement. Looked like the Croatian fans done an organised walk to the game with flags and banners etc but no police escort, probably because there was only about 70 of them in total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 36 minutes ago, dc-jambo said: Not a fan of sevco- but if the Croatians thought they were gonna behave like Zagreb did here, and expect to get away with it in the weedge, this was always gonna happen What did Zagreb do here? I don't recall any trouble. Perfect hosts over there too, apart from the pumping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dunks said: What did Zagreb do here? I don't recall any trouble. Perfect hosts over there too, apart from the pumping. Had a pretty impressive firework display iirc. Mind you that night have been the Bosnian team Zljenkar or something☺ I just remember just about hitting the roof when it started. Don't remember any bother on either occasion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, busby1985 said: I was at the game and in the stadium. Away end I hope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said: The vast majority don't discriminate on the grounds of nationality or traveller status. The worlds changed mate, get out and have a look sometime. don't worry mate, my eyes are open. I'll say something, the soul might be being sucked right out the English game but at least it's taking a lot of the dinosaurs with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB1to4 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, luckydug said: Had a pretty impressive firework display iirc. Mind you that night have been the Bosnian team Zljenkar or something☺ I just remember just about hitting the roof when it started. Don't remember any bother on either occasion though. Pretty sure it was that zeljnicar. Ended up burning a few seats in Murrayfield iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkierobroy Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Been at Scotland-Croatia games at Hampden. No bother, fans mingling before the game. The good thing here is that UEFA are not intimidated by the Old Firm and they won't balk at punishing Sevco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Away end I hope? Sadly am now connected to Rangers for the next 4 seasons ?. The things you do for family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, kirkierobroy said: Been at Scotland-Croatia games at Hampden. No bother, fans mingling before the game. The good thing here is that UEFA are not intimidated by the Old Firm and they won't balk at punishing Sevco. Sevco will blame police, SFA non-execs and chairman, foreigners, Chelsea fans and tiny minorities of troublemakers outside the ground, then claim everyone hates them and bullies them but together they can resist those that seek to oppress them.... I wouldn't be surprised if they claim I am cyber bullying them by saying this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, MrB1to4 said: Pretty sure it was that zeljnicar. Ended up burning a few seats in Murrayfield iirc. Nah it was at Tynecastle. I remember that much. It was probably the tightness of the stadium that made it so loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 44 minutes ago, kirkierobroy said: Well, thanks for wishing me out of existence, old chap. I'd refer you to any of my previous posts where I have reminded the slow of thinking (might include you, I'll reserve judgement) that the Celtic/Sevco fan bases are drawn from throughout Scotland and a small adjacent island, the more so if you include the pot-belied drunks who wear the tops and subscribe to the culture but never go to games. More people identify with Celtic or Sevco in Peterhead, Inverness, Dumfries, Kilmarnock, Ayr, Paisley, Dumbarton, Motherwell etc etc than with the respective local teams. They are a cancer on my native city, yep, but they are a cancer on the rest of Scotland as well, and beyond. Glasgow teams? I don't even think of them as Scottish teams, given the IRish, Union Jack and Ulster flags that proliferate in their sinkholes. Edinburgh, Dundee and Aberdeen are perhap places in Scotland less affected by the pull of the Old Firm. ALl the same, I think you'd be disturbed if there was ever a headcount. They're everywhere. Mate, don't even engage with the numbskull. It's futile trying to communicate with people like him and he only posts stuff to try and be controversial or to wind people up. A bizarre way to spend your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, MrB1to4 said: Pretty sure it was that zeljnicar. Ended up burning a few seats in Murrayfield iirc. Murrayfied was Ferenczvaros i think. Edited August 3, 2018 by Ibrahim Tall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 10 hours ago, jake said: Not anti Rangers. But the generalizing of their support. Their support doesn't need generalisation. I can say quite unequivocally that the majority of their support are bigots. The same goes for the other lot at the East side of Glasgow. The above paragraph is said with 50 years experience of Scottish/ Glasgow football behind me. In this instance the blame lies with both the Croats and Sevco. Neither are blameless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB1to4 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, luckydug said: Nah it was at Tynecastle. I remember that much. It was probably the tightness of the stadium that made it so loud. Correct. It was ferencvaros I was thinking of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB1to4 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: Murrayfied was Ferenczvaros i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 52 minutes ago, kirkierobroy said: Well, thanks for wishing me out of existence, old chap. I'd refer you to any of my previous posts where I have reminded the slow of thinking (might include you, I'll reserve judgement) that the Celtic/Sevco fan bases are drawn from throughout Scotland and a small adjacent island, the more so if you include the pot-belied drunks who wear the tops and subscribe to the culture but never go to games. More people identify with Celtic or Sevco in Peterhead, Inverness, Dumfries, Kilmarnock, Ayr, Paisley, Dumbarton, Motherwell etc etc than with the respective local teams. They are a cancer on my native city, yep, but they are a cancer on the rest of Scotland as well, and beyond. Glasgow teams? I don't even think of them as Scottish teams, given the IRish, Union Jack and Ulster flags that proliferate in their sinkholes. Edinburgh, Dundee and Aberdeen are perhap places in Scotland less affected by the pull of the Old Firm. ALl the same, I think you'd be disturbed if there was ever a headcount. They're everywhere. Ach man, no offence intended - sorry. I clearly don't mean I want to literally wipe our Glaswegians. I'd keep the tidy ones and the non OF fans Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 6 hours ago, davie1980 said: "It'll have been some wee weedgie neds coming out of the tenements with blades, or some such...probably not even have tickets for the game... ." Jake, a lie would require a statement of fact. The above comment just screams opinion or assumption to me. Hard to call any such statement a lie.... surely Exactly david??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 51 minutes ago, Dunks said: What did Zagreb do here? I don't recall any trouble. Perfect hosts over there too, apart from the pumping. They were a bit nuts and I think our 'boys' gave them a wide berth when they were here, apart from one who assured us they would be going home in coffins if they started anything. I think he's still hiding behind his couch though. No trouble that I recall though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 The Zagreb saga is documented in all its glory in the Classics. Its an amusing read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkierobroy Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: I'd keep the tidy ones and the non OF fans Ta. I wash most weeks, honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 11 hours ago, jambali said: Sanctions?? No, waht am I saying - of course not! What a ridiculous thing to expect. Rangers can't control what happens away from Ibrox any more than Hearts can control what happens at Haymarket. Have a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogirlglasgow Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 11 hours ago, millerjames398 said: It'll have been some wee weedgie neds coming out of the tenements with blades, or some such...probably not even have tickets for the game... It really won’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmore Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: Mate, don't even engage with the numbskull. It's futile trying to communicate with people like him and he only posts stuff to try and be controversial or to wind people up. A bizarre way to spend your time. I don't think he was being serious about Glaswegians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 100% there was trouble in Zagreb. Not a lot of it, but it was there. If we'd have won over there, it would have been a very different story though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: 100% there was trouble in Zagreb. Not a lot of it, but it was there. If we'd have won over there, it would have been a very different story though. Isolated incidents which you can get anywhere. The Croat old bill had it nailed down quite tight and the atmosphere at The Bulldog was great all day. Like us, a few wee pockets left before the clear out....didn't fancy being in the stadium 2 hours early, got in for KO !...and there was a couple of wee daft things on the way to the ground. At Tynecastle, it was quite funny. They had a mock fight, which had the stewards in a pickle, then the flares all set off at once, had them in a bigger pickle ! Never heard of anything outside apart from an alleged altercation at Bensons. That was Zagreb ! Not sure how it all transpired but if they did walk from the centre of Glasgow to Ibrox, singing etc in a group...em....good luck with that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Salad Fingers said: don't worry mate, my eyes are open. I'll say something, the soul might be being sucked right out the English game but at least it's taking a lot of the dinosaurs with it. When you put it like that, then I wish the soul would get completely sucked right out of Scottish football as well mate, an interesting analogy that. 1 hour ago, kirkierobroy said: Been at Scotland-Croatia games at Hampden. No bother, fans mingling before the game. The good thing here is that UEFA are not intimidated by the Old Firm and they won't balk at punishing Sevco. Croatia are probably more political and religious than the West of Scotland Old Firm fans are, Croats who follow their national side are very patriotic people and very switched on towards Scottish people, however there are also Croats who will never follow their national side and there's often a lot of organised gangs who turn up at Croatia matches just to cause disruption and try to get Croatia kicked out of comps etc, you might already have seen this, but when sides from Split play sides from Zagreb, it's not for the faint hearted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Spellczech said: Sevco will blame police, SFA non-execs and chairman, foreigners, Chelsea fans and tiny minorities of troublemakers outside the ground, then claim everyone hates them and bullies them but together they can resist those that seek to oppress them.... I wouldn't be surprised if they claim I am cyber bullying them by saying this... This could have been written by Fatboy Traynor!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Violence in Glasgow involving Rangers fans. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Boab said: Isolated incidents which you can get anywhere. The Croat old bill had it nailed down quite tight and the atmosphere at The Bulldog was great all day. Like us, a few wee pockets left before the clear out....didn't fancy being in the stadium 2 hours early, got in for KO !...and there was a couple of wee daft things on the way to the ground. At Tynecastle, it was quite funny. They had a mock fight, which had the stewards in a pickle, then the flares all set off at once, had them in a bigger pickle ! Never heard of anything outside apart from an alleged altercation at Bensons. That was Zagreb ! Not sure how it all transpired but if they did walk from the centre of Glasgow to Ibrox, singing etc in a group...em....good luck with that ! You’re right in saying it was pockets of little incidents, not to the same standard as last night right enough. But we drank with some of the BBB after the away leg and they were quite upfront about the idea that, if we had won that night, they’d have been kicking our collective ***** in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 6 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: Trivialise? No far from it, bud. EDIT: Your final comments are my views too, well said. The point, I read from the post, was one group looking for trouble got it returned by another group happy to do so. Which was my point in that Rangers had recent history against Hearts fans. The "nothing to see", I read as as nothing to do wih bigotry ot sectarianism, which Jake totally de-railed the to with his bizarre posting manner. Again, the post (IMO) was all about knuckle-draggers , will always be knuckle-draggers.. So, i did not see anything to wet pants about and demand bannings. 6 hours ago, davie1980 said: You're entitled to think he's wrong, out of order even. I'd be inclined to agree with you. Banned from a forum because he doesn't care about it though? Are we the thought police now? It's not even as if he went as far as saying they deserved it or he was pleased, he just said it isn't big news, these things happen. I think he's obviously playing down a serious issue, hardly a banning offence Fair enough , if iv picked parts up wrong , boiled my p*** a bit at the time. Banning is a bit ott , just think it was out of order and deserved a boot in the balls for the comments and how I took them. Which was by not calling it out they were saying its acceptable just turn a blind eye. May not have helped trying to dechiper Jakes ramblings and derailing in the middle. There is definately always knuckledraggers , hopefully something that will overtime become a bigger minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 The two men stabbed are Croatian. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-45057153 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 The two guys stabbed were Croatian it’s saying now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Just on BBC News 1 minute ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: The two men stabbed are Croatian. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-45057153 This is not good news for Scotland or Scottish Football IMHO. Not exactly surprising thoughts it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, theshed said: The two guys stabbed were Croatian it’s saying now Ooooft, this news isn't going to do jake's hangover any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscjambo Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 So Rangers fans or fans associated with Rangers have been involved in fights with Wigan fans and two Croatian fans end up stabbed. I'm sorry total vermin. This needs seriously checked by the club and if not the powers that be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Ooooft, this news isn't going to do jake's hangover any good. Give him time to sleep it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: The two men stabbed are Croatian. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-45057153 Wonder if any of the rangers fans who were saying it was their own who had been stabbed and the Croatians deserved the jail sentences that would be upcoming will have a different view now or who they will blame. That aside , it says one released , one awaiting tests so fingers crossed all is ok and nothing to severe comes out of it for Scottish football after two incidents in just a few days and this one on a large stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, sadj said: Wonder if any of the rangers fans who were saying it was their own who had been stabbed and the Croatians deserved the jail sentences that would be upcoming will have a different view now or who they will blame. That aside , it says one released , one awaiting tests so fingers crossed all is ok and nothing to severe comes out of it for Scottish football after two incidents in just a few days and this one on a large stage. It was probably Chelsea fans that did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Just now, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: It was probably Chelsea fans that did it. Ah for the days when the Bridge wasn’t so full of rich wankers that the violent element had to travel the length of the county for a rammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, sadj said: Ah for the days when the Bridge wasn’t so full of rich wankers that the violent element had to travel the length of the county for a rammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Had a peak on Bears Den, try and get a level-headed, rational take on things. First reply I seen to the news it was Croats was "Good" and "another fantastic result last night". No shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: It was probably Chelsea fans that did it. Nah it was Celtic fans trying to stir up rouble for Rangers. Everyone is against them don't you know? No--one likes them don't you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Nah it was Celtic fans trying to stir up rouble for Rangers. Everyone is against them don't you know? No--one likes them don't you know? They are firmly laying the blame at Celtic supporters and the police. Nothing to do with themselves obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegie jambo Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 4 hours ago, i8hibsh said: Ach man, no offence intended - sorry. I clearly don't mean I want to literally wipe our Glaswegians. I'd keep the tidy ones and the non OF fans Peace Phew, thank goodness you cleared that up, I was getting worried! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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