August Landmesser Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 28 minutes ago, Thomaso said: You are of course correct, however the reality is that ultimately a Manager stands or falls on the players he signs. No he isn't. A manager is always judged on results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboman9 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Seems to be appreciated where he is,shame for the lad if he joins as the Boo Boys will soon knock the sh*t out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 37 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: is this boy being written off already as a wyscout /Murray signing? And therefore cat piss? Can't blame folk for playing the odds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: No he isn't. A manager is always judged on results. Indeed - but how does he achieve these results - by putting good players on the park IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, jamboman9 said: Seems to be appreciated where he is,shame for the lad if he joins as the Boo Boys will soon knock the sh*t out of him. Only if he is yet another signing who is sh*t..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Thomaso said: Exactly. This belief that we have the ability to sign good value, under the radar, foreign gems all sounds good - but sadly it has been a bit of a disaster. We have signed 49 players I believe in the last few seasons - the vast majority have been duds and a total waste of money. Some shrewd signings of less players who have proven themselves in the Scottish game would have been a better way forward. Aberdeen have built teams with good signings from the likes of ICT and St Mirren, and Hibs star man also came from St Mirren. Surely thats just as double edged a sword though. Sutton was hailed when he signed and did nothing. De Vries was a nobody and we loved him. Callahan came in and a part of the support has torn him to shreds. Reilly came in and a part of the support said he’s not good enough. Having said that , I don’t disagree that the signing policy hasn’t always been great recently aside from getting lucky with the likes of Sow and Rossi but hopefully this can be rectified now and we can move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Indeed - but how does he achieve these results - by putting good players on the park IMO. Tommy Wright won the Scottish Cup with a team of players most of whom wouldn't have got near the Hearts first team. A manager is judged on results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, sadj said: Surely thats just as double edged a sword though. Sutton was hailed when he signed and did nothing. De Vries was a nobody and we loved him. Callahan came in and a part of the support has torn him to shreds. Reilly came in and a part of the support said he’s not good enough. Having said that , I don’t disagree that the signing policy hasn’t always been great recently aside from getting lucky with the likes of Sow and Rossi but hopefully this can be rectified now and we can move forward. Sutton was a massive disappointment - he just did not fit Hearts for some reason. Callachan looks out of his depth -did anybody really think Reilly was good enough???? MDV - top man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: Tommy Wright won the Scottish Cup with a team of players most of whom wouldn't have got near the Hearts first team. A manager is judged on results. Shows what an experienced Manager can do right enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 40 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: is this boy being written off already as a wyscout /Murray signing? And therefore cat piss? Not at all. I've no idea but it's his job is to identify a shortlist of players for Levein and the manager to take a look at. To be fair though Cathro was probably the biggest problem last year not the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 24 minutes ago, Barack said: Oh! What’ve cats ever done to you? Evil things. 12 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: Can't blame folk for playing the odds! Well, Osman Sow came from Sweden and he was alright. What we can definitely say is, he plays at a level comparable or better in some respects than the SPFL. He might not adapt, but certainly is of a good standard. I'd file this one alongside Rherras in terms of taking a 'punt' than Oshaniwa. I think if Rherras had this season as well he may have adapted well and become a decent player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, ISMAparty said: Not at all. I've no idea but it's his job is to identify a shortlist of players for Levein and the manager to take a look at. To be fair though Cathro was probably the biggest problem last year not the players. Without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Indeed - but how does he achieve these results - by putting good players on the park IMO. While important good players mean diddly squat when you don't have the right manager. We'll see what happens but so far I'm not convinced we have either. Lots of mistakes from Levein but the last two games have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Thomaso said: so going by that you are arguing that we should be signing foreign players instead???? Think you are arguing with yourself here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Well, Osman Sow came from Sweden and he was alright. Your pal Cruyff came from Holland.........that didn't make Anderson a player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 52 minutes ago, Thomaso said: You are of course correct, however the reality is that ultimately a Manager stands or falls on the players he signs. and Levein hasn't signed anyone since he became manager so how about waiting and see how he goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, XB52 said: so going by that you are arguing that we should be signing foreign players instead???? Think you are arguing with yourself here No I'm saying we need a better balance of Scottish and foreign players. Unfortunately our record over the last couple of seasons in both has been pretty abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, XB52 said: and Levein hasn't signed anyone since he became manager so how about waiting and see how he goes No, but he was heavily involved in the ones we did sign when he was D of F. IIRC he was also signing players after Cathro was fired and before he was named as Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Levein actually signed Callachan and Skinny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, KyleLafferty said: Levein actually signed Callachan and Skinny. Peach of a goal on Saturday big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 8 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Good delivery, looks a top player. But ive been duped by YouTube highlights videos before so has Cathro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, maroonlegions said: Peach of a goal on Saturday big man. Was about as good as your banter mate a 3/10 at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, KyleLafferty said: Was about as good as your banter mate a 3/10 at best. 3/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, maroonlegions said: 3/10. I felt it was a tad generous..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Thomaso said: Well you would say that now wouldn't you....... I like to be fair. I have had my own bad days Mind you, I wouldn't mind the original Cole Stockton thread bumped, I took a bit of grief on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: I like to be fair. I have had my own bad days Mind you, I wouldn't mind the original Cole Stockton thread bumped, I took a bit of grief on that one Quite like how my days going actually SG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Thomaso said: Quite like how my days going actually SG. Champion. You of course have a hotline, don't waste your time here man, get it sorted with your "contacts". By personal appointment! And have we signed this lad yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairyinthat Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 45 minutes ago, Finlay James said: Interesting, his club are certainly doing very well. he could be another Oshinawa or then again a De Vries but very much worth a try. 18 minutes ago, KyleLafferty said: Levein actually signed Callachan and Skinny. And both of them have a lot of what's been missing ie dig, a sign of players Craig Levein intends to bring into the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 32 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Your pal Cruyff came from Holland.........that didn't make Anderson a player! Touché If this boy signs though I think he'll be a good player. Levein knows the stakes are high, we can't afford to sign shite anymore, hopefully there has been some rigorous checks done this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, JamboAl said: Even if you are right you are getting very near to being sued. I know I would be thinking along these lines if I were CL. I'm surprised his posts have not been removed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Spencer said: Never heard of the lad tbh. Playing for a side who are on an exponential rise and had exposure against some very good sides in Europa League Their manager will be on the radar of some bigger clubs throughout Europe. He has done a phenomenal job Could be a very interesting one Is that a "Yes" or a "No" or a "sit on the fence and be ready to criticise if it all goes wrong" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Touché If this boy signs though I think he'll be a good player. Levein knows the stakes are high, we can't afford to sign shite anymore, hopefully there has been some rigorous checks done this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, sairyinthat said: And both of them have a lot of what's been missing ie dig, a sign of players Craig Levein intends to bring into the club. Callachan had absolutely no "dig" whatsoever in the last Derby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Aslong as they give 100% to the cause and have a bit of ability, then they will go a long way here. It’s all us supporters want, is someone who leaves it all out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Parmesan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Somi is also wanted by IFK Goteburg and Djurgardens IF of Stockholm - two of Sweden's biggest clubs. https://www.expressen.se/gt/sport/traffade-blavitt-dragkamp-vantar/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Levein the manager brought us in a nice blend of players home and abroad and i expect he will do the same this time as manager. The home grown players wont be bought they will be the players we have from the Academy we have already seen. We wont have alot of cash in Jan but i expect 2/3 coming in and that is all. I see alot more in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 If he’s good enough to be signed and played by Graham potter then I’ll give him a chance without even watching his video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Thomaso said: I felt it was a tad generous..... Thought his goal deserved more to be fair. FTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Thomaso said: Sutton was a massive disappointment - he just did not fit Hearts for some reason. Callachan looks out of his depth -did anybody really think Reilly was good enough???? MDV - top man! I know , but I stand by my point. We’ve had successes and failures in both areas. I’d say Callachan was a player to grow to be what we need not straight into the team as he has been. May work , may not. Sutton isn’t the only failure we’ve claimed as heralded signings of Scottish players or the Scottish market thats ended tits up. Reilly was again surely bought as a project and as such seemed pointless to buy him then punt him. A better hit rate with signings would be nice though. Fingers crossed we get it now but football is always a diversy thing. Look at the opinions on McGinn and we are a fickle support so someone on the cusp may be a bust just cause we have no patience usually and the boo boys are out within seconds as if we are begging someone to fail. Were in a place where we can’t go out and spend huge amounts on players. So we have to expect hit and miss but at least if we give encoragement we might reap the odd reward. And before you say it yes our experiences have been poor so people aren’t willing to be as patient as they maybe could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Surely we are gonna get this LB slot sorted soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 4 hours ago, MoBerthe said: Brian Easton could sign pre contract in January. Small nominal fee similar to one we paid for callachan June 2019 He'll have 18 months remaining from January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Looks like he has pace and a good delivery. It is only YouTube however, so I won't be getting too excited. If he's already been at Tynecastle surely we are his preferred destination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Thomaso said: It highlights our scouting and signing policy whether at home or abroad has been sadly lacking! There is Scottish talent out there - Hibs and Aberdeen for instance have signed some good quality players in recent seasons - we just need to be smart enough to find them! January is difficult to recruit Scottish talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Good to see us stalking him on Twitter:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 54 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: June 2019 He'll have 18 months remaining from January Should/could have signed him in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 It's hard to get excited about an unknown transfer target anymore, after all the duds we've brought in. You tube video looks good but so did oshinawas, daudas etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastlesmychurch Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 14 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Good delivery, looks a top player. But ive been duped by YouTube highlights videos before By any chance did YouTube dupe you when it came to a certain Nigerian superstar left back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 9 hours ago, communist said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-hold-talks-with-swedish-left-back-gabriel-somi-1-4636113/amp Banderson jumping on the bandwagon. What did Bandy do before JKB and Wiki??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnomarooned Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Article on the Club - focussing on the English manager and players but an interesting read. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41902664 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveNgoo Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Turned us down for more money in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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