Hearts First Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Yes to be fair because regardless of how much you may want it to be the 1970s again, some of the stuff coming out of the mouths of these people was embarrassing to be associated with. Shocking, old chap. There will be a strongly worded letter sent to The Guardian on Monday morning. Yours, most highly offendedness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambojames1874123 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 what has never kicked a ball got to do with it? Because if you're just there to scream a load of sh*t at the ref, your own fans, or anyone in your general direction it would suggest you don't actually appreciate watching a game of football which is surely the whole point of going to a game regardless of who you support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 1874 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Of course you were! Well you're not getting a pm. So you don't actually live overseas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 Thanks Big C. It was bizarre from where I was sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo414 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 what has never kicked a ball got to do with it?I think the implication is that they couldn't care about the football. Just looking for somewhere to be absolute ringpieces. Having a foul mouth at 13 does not make you a bigger man, it makes you an immature wee boy Sent from my HUAWEI VNS-L31 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambojames1874123 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I think the implication is that they couldn't care about the football. Just looking for somewhere to be absolute ringpieces. Having a foul mouth at 13 does not make you a bigger man, it makes you an immature wee boy Sent from my HUAWEI VNS-L31 using Tapatalk Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Genuinely surprised folk are angry..... Folk drink act silly, like me on occasion..... Really don't mean harm.. Forgiveness, is a holy virtue....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambojames1874123 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Shocking, old chap. There will be a strongly worded letter sent to The Guardian on Monday morning. Yours, most highly offendedness. Fair play if your preferred atmosphere is bigotry and aggressiveness but I've been to enough games to know when parts of the crowd are detracting from rather than adding to the atmosphere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 1874 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Genuinely surprised folk are angry..... Folk drink act silly, like me on occasion..... Really don't mean harm.. Forgiveness, is a holy virtue....... God bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 If you fight at the football then you're an absolute riddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 "they both" being the headbutter and his dad, or the headbutter and the guy who who he headbutted, or the headbutter and the dad of the family in front? Just out of interest, like. Headbutter & Dad got kicked out I think. Headbutter & headbutter's Dad both left the scene when they realised they were in the wrong. Headbutt victim's Dad wasnae happy either so he followed them out under the pretence he was going to the toilet. Headbutt victim's sister followed headbutt victim's Dad (and also her Dad) out to make sure he didn't start anything with headbutter or headbutter's Dad. By this time the stewards had figured who was in the wrong. When Headbutt victim's Dad came back, I asked what happened and asked if headbutter had been launched and he said yes. I'm assuming headbutter's Dad left with him but don't know for sure. As I said... I was sober when this was all going on but I'm not any more so if this make sense in the morning then I'm going to give myself a big round of applause! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Small toilets,big Q u work it out Sherlock Hiya. Nice to make your acquaintance. Educate me Obua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Genuinely surprised folk are angry..... Folk drink act silly, like me on occasion..... Really don't mean harm.. Forgiveness, is a holy virtue....... TBF whenever OF or Hibs fans act like that Kickback is desperate to jump on its high horse about it. So when it happens within our own support it's correct that it is condemned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocobeab Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Did anyone take their teeth oot first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I drove through so was sober (I'm not now). The extra hour combined with the early OF kick off did seem to get people ?ber pished. Hardly forced folk to be more pished? Surely its a choice thing before a match, how much bevvy to consume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Did anyone take their teeth oot first! I still smile just at the thought of that As an aside, hope I never sit beside BigC. He attracts "incidents" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 God bless you. And as my old Irish hero,who loved winding up my faith would say......may your god go with you...... Dave Allen...loved the bones of him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Hardly forced folk to be more pished? Surely its a choice thing before a match, how much bevvy to consume? I'm condoning nothing. It escalated so quickly from sod all. The boy that got a wee tap to the head could have avoided it by being a wee bit less "aye, I dare you" but the boy that did the headbutt wants to take a proper look at himself too. He totally over reacted to being told to shoosh and over reacted again (by head butting) when the boy he squared up to didn't back down. Nobody should be drinking it they can't control themselves at the first hint of a disagreement about a fecking offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 As an aside, hope I never sit beside BigC. He attracts "incidents" I solve them mate. Would have been a full scale riot if the big man hadn't intervened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macros Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 And as my old Irish hero,who loved winding up my faith would say......may your god go with you...... Dave Allen...loved the bones of him... Great comedian sorely missed, would love to have met him for a drink and a wee laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Headbutter & Dad got kicked out I think. Headbutter & headbutter's Dad both left the scene when they realised they were in the wrong. Headbutt victim's Dad wasnae happy either so he followed them out under the pretence he was going to the toilet. Headbutt victim's sister followed headbutt victim's Dad (and also her Dad) out to make sure he didn't start anything with headbutter or headbutter's Dad. By this time the stewards had figured who was in the wrong. When Headbutt victim's Dad came back, I asked what happened and asked if headbutter had been launched and he said yes. I'm assuming headbutter's Dad left with him but don't know for sure. As I said... I was sober when this was all going on but I'm not any more so if this make sense in the morning then I'm going to give myself a big round of applause! Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo poet Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Headbuttee took my strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 And I get slagged for not being there when grown men are sandancing in front of kids and fans trying to watch a game. I know who the bigger ***** out of us are in this respect I was there - so obviously better than you - it wasn't a talking point until you come on here & read bellends who live on the Internet on a Saturday afternoon gobbing on about it. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo-in-furness Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I'm confused Was the "sit down shut up" aimed at ending he guys arguing or The guy trying to have a shite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Grown men paggering over a disagreement over a football decision. Utterly pathetic behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 He did. Pretty poor trying to slag off someone for coming from the other side of the world and taking his family to see Partick Thistle v Hearts. This! Some absolute rockets on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Surely anyone who headbutts anyone for any reason is a bit of a scumbag. To do it over a disagreement about a football match shows they should probably be in some kind of secure hospital institution. Especially when it's a fellow Hearts supporter he's ramming the nut on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Nothing really to be so smug about it. I've lived abroad on and off for years, doesn't feel that different going to games. Dunno what you're trying to prove. Bet you're the life and soul of the parties eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Utter scum? Aye ok then Really? You think that calling a guy a scumbag who headbutts fellow Hearts fans at a football game is in some way harsh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I was the one trying to pull everyone apart. Family of 5-6 directly in front of me. Boy with an older lad who I assume was his Dad to my left. Guys in front agree with the linesman, because they saw Isma blocking defender. A few others disagree and the boy next to me says "is he supposed to stand still... The lads in front say "shut up" not in an aggressive way... The pished lad gives it "or what, what are you gonna do". Lad in front says "more than you'll do" but kind of laughing and not really taking it seriously. At that point the boy next to me stuck the head on him, not hard, but enough to escalate there situation. At that point the family below all get a bit pissed off. Headbutter reailses he's over reacted and been a dick but his Dad is making the situation worse and they don't back down quick enough. Dad of the family in front wants headbutter kicked out and won't settle for anything less. Headbutter realised he's in the wrong and the stewards by this point have figured out what has happened, so they both get kicked out. So basically they called him out for a fight (in an non aggressive way-whatever that means), they got one, shat themselves and then grassed the guy up to the stewards. Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 What section was this in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westendjambo Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I think the implication is that they couldn't care about the football. Just looking for somewhere to be absolute ringpieces. Having a foul mouth at 13 does not make you a bigger man, it makes you an immature wee boy Sent from my HUAWEI VNS-L31 using Tapatalk Surely at the age of 13 you are still a slightly immature wee boy?Btw any foul mouthed 13 year olds that go to away/home games are probably just repeating some shouts that come from else where in the stands ?? As for the thread title, fighting amongst our own is obviously embarrassing, probably alcohol related, cant understand why a difference in opinion should lead to this!! This is just an assumption ofcourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 So basically they called him out for a fight (in an non aggressive way-whatever that means), they got one, shat themselves and then grassed the guy up to the stewards. Class I don't think anywhere in the story it says they shat themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 So nobody got lifted then ? Headbutter got off lightly imo. Obviously the later start did play a part with the extra drink consumed. Why do folks think Old Firm derbies are alway lunch time KOs these days ? Remember the carnage when they kicked off at tea time to suit Sky TV ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltese jambo Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Shut up. They are totally different things. The GB act like scum on a weekly basis, hardly comparable.I see our own fans acting like scum every week mate. Sent from my SM-T713 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Belt 1874 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 So basically they called him out for a fight (in an non aggressive way-whatever that means), they got one, shat themselves and then grassed the guy up to the stewards. Class No, you have misunderstood BigCs post. The situation was all started by the headbutter. He thought he could mouth off to the guys in front and get away with it. Once he stuck the head on the boy he quickly realised that he was going to get a fight, wasn't going to win it by the looks of it, and sat down and admitted he was in the wrong. Guys in front didn't accept this and forced him to leave. The stewards never took these guys away. As BigC says, a disagreement over a decision at the football happens often, no big deal, but it escalated so quickly once he tried the head butt. Aggressively threatening fellow Hearts fans, assaulting fellow Hearts fans, all in front of women and young children was well over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwaterwoodwelder Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Later kick off equalled more alcohol in the system Yeh nothing like this ever happens at a 3pm kick off lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveandal Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Was it offside?.......... just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Was it offside?.......... just wondering. Yeah. Isma was in an offside position. Cowie played it forward to him and ran on for a one two. Isma didn't touch the ball because he knew he was off side. Instead, he blocked the defender so that Cowie could run on to his own pass. Because Cowie ran on to his own ball, loads of folk were going mental at the decision, but the defender would have easily got there if Isma wasn't blocking him so he was clearly interfering with play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Really? You think that calling a guy a scumbag who headbutts fellow Hearts fans at a football game is in some way harsh? Utter scum id reserve for well utter scum. Id call this one out as wee fud. Utter scum aye a bit harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 So basically they called him out for a fight (in an non aggressive way-whatever that means), they got one, shat themselves and then grassed the guy up to the stewards. Class Were you the guy who did the head butting? That's the only explanation I can think of for you so obviously and deliberately misunderstanding my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Utter scum id reserve for well utter scum. Id call this one out as wee fud. Utter scum aye a bit harsh I don't really see the distinction. Assaulting someone at a football game is certainly scumbag behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 So nobody got lifted then ? Headbutter got off lightly imo. I think the reason they left was because they reckoned he'd be less likely to get lifted if he voluntarily walked out the stadium. To be fair to the family, none of them were asking for him to be arrested and none of them spoke to the police as far as I know. They weren't looking to press charges or anything, they just wanted him to GTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 1874 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I think the reason they left was because they reckoned he'd be less likely to get lifted if he voluntarily walked out the stadium. To be fair to the family, none of them were asking for him to be arrested and none of them spoke to the police as far as I know. They weren't looking to press charges or anything, they just wanted him to GTF. You're going into way too much detail. Starting to sound a bit made up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts First Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I see our own fans acting like scum every week mate. Sent from my SM-T713 using Tapatalk Are you genuinely comparing the Hearts support with the Green Brigade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 You're going into way too much detail. Starting to sound a bit made up to me. Aye, me and 100's of other folk in that section all got together and said "let's all make up a story". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Law Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I was the one trying to pull everyone apart. Family of 5-6 directly in front of me. Boy with an older lad who I assume was his Dad to my left. Guys in front agree with the linesman, because they saw Isma blocking defender. A few others disagree and the boy next to me says "is he supposed to stand still... The lads in front say "shut up" not in an aggressive way... The pished lad gives it "or what, what are you gonna do". Lad in front says "more than you'll do" but kind of laughing and not really taking it seriously. At that point the boy next to me stuck the head on him, not hard, but enough to escalate there situation. At that point the family below all get a bit pissed off. Headbutter reailses he's over reacted and been a dick but his Dad is making the situation worse and they don't back down quick enough. Dad of the family in front wants headbutter kicked out and won't settle for anything less. Headbutter realised he's in the wrong and the stewards by this point have figured out what has happened, so they both get kicked out. Accurate reflection. At least we can understand how the headbutter behaved that way given he has been brought up by such an excellent role model!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I don't really see the distinction. Assaulting someone at a football game is certainly scumbag behaviour. Just think that someone who robs an old dear is utter scum. Someone puttin the heid on a fellow supporter through a drunkin argument is a fud. So i stand by the harsh description. Haha mate come on who cares. Sounds like it was a handbags heidbut anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Sounds like a coming together of the heads and one of the guys has went down like a tonne of bricks looking for a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Guessing some posters struggled with football life in 70's & 80's. Guy acts like a knob and tries to stick one on someone and KB does what KB does best and goes into meltdown. The internet has a lot to answer for in respect of escalating nothing into something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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