crichiejambos Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 A older chap at work who hails from Motherwell was reminiscing about his youth and growing up in the town in the 70s! various things were mentioned one of which was football,him and his mates watched Motherwell FC and he remembered Saturday afternoons when the Rangers & Celtic fans would pour of the trains and head for the pubs the railway tavern was mentioned? But he also mentioned Hearts and said of any visiting fans, Hearts were one the worst in terms of being a nuisance he minded they wore crombie coats with Dr Marten boots! but also the handkerchiefs,they had them neatly folded in the coat breast pocked! To him it seamed out of place coincidering what they were doing! Before my time but I presume by the discription they were skinheads? In that era did Hearts have a skinhead following,were they a bit naughty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 a bit like this (not a Hearts fan in the photo but I think there are a few snaps somewhere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 My dad used to say the bald lad in "The Flying Pickets" looked like many a 1970's Hearts fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musemic Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Aah, Crombies, Sta-prest trousers or Prince of Wales checked loons, Simon shirts and Doc Martens - takes me back! There were a few bammers following us around in the mid to late 70's, right enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 When I was a nipper I recall a chant from the shed; "Gorgie Boys, Gorgie Boys, laced-up boots & cordaroys". To the tune of Sham 69's Hersham Boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Aah, Crombies, Sta-prest trousers or Prince of Wales checked loons, Simon shirts and Doc Martens - takes me back! There were a few bammers following us around in the mid to late 70's, right enough Harrington jackets and college jerseys as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assessor Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 When I was a nipper I recall a chant from the shed; "Gorgie Boys, Gorgie Boys, laced-up boots & cordaroys". To the tune of Sham 69's Hersham Boys. Great band and still going strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Maroon Sta Prest and DM's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 When I was a nipper I recall a chant from the shed; "Gorgie Boys, Gorgie Boys, laced-up boots & cordaroys". To the tune of Sham 69's Hersham Boys. A certain poster, who cannot be named for obvious reasons, will be all over the mention of Sham 69. You'll find him on the 'Terraces'. Not on your Nelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 If you go down to the woods today.. Picnics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 We carried many things to the games back then but never hankies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hersham boys by Sham 69. Was in the charts when I joined up. Along with message in a bottle by the police. I thought it was Ben Sherman shirts that were all the craze back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbauld Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Dundee United were certainly the worst support for skinheads at that time, would be outside waiting after the games and if you weren't Bruce Lee then it was a frantic dash for the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 There's a book that will tell you all about this. Bring out your riot gear the hearts are here: Gorgie aggro. Good luck getting your hands on a copy though. They're as rare as hens teeth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosimmy Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 There's a book that will tell you all about this. Bring out your riot gear the hearts are here: Gorgie aggro. Good luck getting your hands on a copy though. They're as rare as hens teeth! Deay me, just had a quick look on Amazon and they are seeling for ?69.95!!!!! I'm certain I have a copy of this book in the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arry Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 There's a book that will tell you all about this. Bring out your riot gear the hearts are here: Gorgie aggro. Good luck getting your hands on a copy though. They're as rare as hens teeth! Nah ..... skinheads, crombies, bootboys, clockwork orange, cowan tailoring, Jax ,..... etc etc were before the times mentioned in the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Nah ..... skinheads, crombies, bootboys, clockwork orange, cowan tailoring, Jax ,..... etc etc were before the times mentioned in the bookI'm sure in the aggro book he does mention the skinhead and mod gangs that come from the schemes in the 70s..as well as the gbb. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 A good few books I have read on the casual scene mention Hearts as having one of the worst supports (in terms of trouble) in the 70's and that Tynecastle was always a hairy experience. Even into the mid 80's the "scarfers" were fair game. I remember my dad's mate telling me he was at Tynecastle in the mid-80s with Celtic and van loads of Skins turning up and kicking Celtic's casuals all the way up Gorgie Road. Whether this is true or not, we certainly had a reputation back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 There's a book that will tell you all about this. Bring out your riot gear the hearts are here: Gorgie aggro. Good luck getting your hands on a copy though. They're as rare as hens teeth! Here you go!! https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bring-Out-Your-Riot-Gear/dp/0953592006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I'd have really enjoyed travelling to the away games back then,away games down south in the Texaco cup...all before I started going in the 80s...but folks stories on similar threads in the past always leave me feeling gutted I wasn't part of the support back then...i mean who would take there dug to darkhead for an away game? [emoji33] [emoji23] madness. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 A good few books I have read on the casual scene mention Hearts as having one of the worst supports (in terms of trouble) in the 70's and that Tynecastle was always a hairy experience. Even into the mid 80's the "scarfers" were fair game. I remember my dad's mate telling me he was at Tynecastle in the mid-80s with Celtic and van loads of Skins turning up and kicking Celtic's casuals all the way up Gorgie Road. Whether this is true or not, we certainly had a reputation back then. I remember that game!!! Was at it with my mum as a 9 year old. Scared shitless I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 A good few books I have read on the casual scene mention Hearts as having one of the worst supports (in terms of trouble) in the 70's and that Tynecastle was always a hairy experience. Even into the mid 80's the "scarfers" were fair game. I remember my dad's mate telling me he was at Tynecastle in the mid-80s with Celtic and van loads of Skins turning up and kicking Celtic's casuals all the way up Gorgie Road. Whether this is true or not, we certainly had a reputation back then.I read a similar book and a Aberdeen casuals said in there years of getting up to mischief...the scariest experience was leaving tynie(after clinching the title)?and having to run the gauntlet back up to Haymarket against punks and skins... Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hersham boys by Sham 69. Was in the charts when I joined up. Along with message in a bottle by the police. I thought it was Ben Sherman shirts that were all the craze back then. It was a an evolution thing? Crombies, Doc Martins yellow laces, then the Jeans were replaced with Stay-press, Fred Perry polo's were replaced by Ben Sherman shirts (classic oxfords) but you could only get them in Oxford Street in London, Great days the Gorgie Boot boys, well before casuals. Pogo pogo pogo we used to do on the terraces too Brilliant! Also remember we went through a phase of Dungarees with Maroon Jumbers underneath, and the scarfs tied around our heads , so we all looked the same to the Polis....The Commandos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 We carried many things to the games back then but never hankies. It was in the inner part of the Crombie turned out to look like a handkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I remember that game!!! Was at it with my mum as a 9 year old. Scared shitless I was. I bet your mum was ready to take on anyone that came near you as well. I remember being in Glasgow when Scotland played England in 1989, all along Union Street it was going off. People getting their heads kicked in, police everywhere. My mum had me and my sister in the doorway of a shop standing in front of us, handbag ready to twat any Engurlish gorrilla that decided to come near us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musemic Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I'd have really enjoyed travelling to the away games back then,away games down south in the Texaco cup...all before I started going in the 80s...but folks stories on similar threads in the past always leave me feeling gutted I wasn't part of the support back then...i mean who would take there dug to darkhead for an away game? [emoji33] [emoji23] madness. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Ha ha, that would be Ian Anderson aka Bernie. He was just an ordinary kid at Craiglockhart Primary but when he hit 14/15 he went off the tracks. What became of him? If he's still with us he'll be 60/61 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arry Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Ha ha, that would be Ian Anderson aka Bernie. He was just an ordinary kid at Craiglockhart Primary but when he hit 14/15 he went off the tracks. What became of him? If he's still with us he'll be 60/61 now Civil Servant last I heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Ha ha, that would be Ian Anderson aka Bernie. He was just an ordinary kid at Craiglockhart Primary but when he hit 14/15 he went off the tracks. What became of him? If he's still with us he'll be 60/61 now That's the fellow[emoji106] he was someone I always seen around when I was younger going in pubs before games with my old man, big scary lookin dude...it wasn't until I got on kick back and heard folks stories/memories of him I realised who he was..quite the character..theres a poster on here(sunning himself in france) who knew him pretty well from back in the day and some of the stories beggar belief...they'd make movies of the stuff that he got up,if it happened these days[emoji23] Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Not sure if it's the same game but I remember a midweek game against Celtic. Was probably mid to late 80s. The violence afterwards was staggering. Fighting all the way along to haymarket with the Celtic support eventually turning on their heels and running for it. I was also at the battle of parkhead. Think that was another midweek game. Totally mental. Even now the Celtic games are vile, always felt that. Really only game I can feel the hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 A certain poster, who cannot be named for obvious reasons, will be all over the mention of Sham 69. You'll find him on the 'Terraces'. Not on your Nelly. I discovered Sham 69 on a Hearts video on youtube. The poster shared his name with a kickbacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRENTICE CROSSES Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Ha ha, that would be Ian Anderson aka Bernie. He was just an ordinary kid at Craiglockhart Primary but when he hit 14/15 he went off the tracks. What became of him? If he's still with us he'll be 60/61 now He used to drink in the Station till it closed.Not sure if he stll does now that it has reopened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRENTICE CROSSES Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 A older chap at work who hails from Motherwell was reminiscing about his youth and growing up in the town in the 70s! various things were mentioned one of which was football,him and his mates watched Motherwell FC and he remembered Saturday afternoons when the Rangers & Celtic fans would pour of the trains and head for the pubs the railway tavern was mentioned? But he also mentioned Hearts and said of any visiting fans, Hearts were one the worst in terms of being a nuisance he minded they wore crombie coats with Dr Marten boots! but also the handkerchiefs,they had them neatly folded in the coat breast pocked! To him it seamed out of place coincidering what they were doing! Before my time but I presume by the discription they were skinheads? In that era did Hearts have a skinhead following,were they a bit naughty? We sure did the GORGIE BOOT BOYS just Hearts fans from all the Edinburgh gangs it was not unusual to see the odd inter gang fight break out at Hearts games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairdy Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Aaah, you 'young uns'. The 60's' were quite 'interesting' at times too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Aaah, you 'young uns'. The 60's' were quite 'interesting' at times too.. Not if you remember them they were'nt, or like me just a baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 We carried many things to the games back then but never hankies. I didn't have a Crombie myself (thanks, dad) but IIRC the guys just pulled the red lining of the pocket out to make it look like a hankie. The real hard men wore Levis ice blue "Sta Pressed " but these eventually disappeared because Levis stopped making them due to the characters in A Clockwork Orange wearing them in the film and the violence associated with it. Anyone remember ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I didn't have a Crombie myself (thanks, dad) but IIRC the guys just pulled the red lining of the pocket out to make it look like a hankie. The real hard men wore Levis ice blue "Sta Pressed " but these eventually disappeared because Levis stopped making them due to the characters in A Clockwork Orange wearing them in the film and the violence associated with it. Anyone remember ? I was being flippant :thumbs up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arry Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I'm sure in the aggro book he does mention the skinhead and mod gangs that come from the schemes in the 70s..as well as the gbb. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk You're correct but most of the "action" is mid 80s and upwards .... My recollections of skinheads were early 70s Gorgie Jungle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Iirc the main g angs from our side of town were Gorgie Jungle , TCR and YBT plus smaller ones like YMASS,Suicide and Clerrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Harrington jackets and college jerseys as well. white skinners and a Barathea jacket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Slightly off topic but I mind Minnie Driver had a song that went "I bet everything I got in my pocket". It wasn't great to be honest, she should have just stuck to acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRENTICE CROSSES Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Yep the GORGIE BOOT BOYS a wild bunch indeed,made up of all the gangs in Edinburgh,the Hibs were not a force at all back in those days untill the casuals arrived.Remenber cup semi final v Dundee United at hampden 1973 maybe.All the sunday papers had a photograph of this United fan being led away with a stone sticking in his forehead,the terraces steps were all crumbling and bits were going back and forward.The Wolves fans running for their lives after the texaco cup second leg in Wolverhampton,Biggest mass brawl i have seen at a game was cup replay v celtic early 70s under the covered terracing all hell let loose the cops scared out of their wits.All memories now but often remembered in the BMC club before a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 That's the fellow[emoji106] he was someone I always seen around when I was younger going in pubs before games with my old man, big scary lookin dude...it wasn't until I got on kick back and heard folks stories/memories of him I realised who he was..quite the character..theres a poster on here(sunning himself in france) who knew him pretty well from back in the day and some of the stories beggar belief...they'd make movies of the stuff that he got up,if it happened these days[emoji23] Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk spoke to him last week , the big man is still alive and kicking living quietly nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Yep the GORGIE BOOT BOYS a wild bunch indeed,made up of all the gangs in Edinburgh,the Hibs were not a force at all back in those days untill the casuals arrived.Remenber cup semi final v Dundee United at hampden 1973 maybe.All the sunday papers had a photograph of this United fan being led away with a stone sticking in his forehead,the terraces steps were all crumbling and bits were going back and forward.The Wolves fans running for their lives after the texaco cup second leg in Wolverhampton,Biggest mass brawl i have seen at a game was cup replay v celtic early 70s under the covered terracing all hell let loose the cops scared out of their wits.All memories now but often remembered in the BMC club before a game. YLT and Lochend Shamrock were pretty hard and Hibs took huge numbers to their Fairs Cup games down south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 By the sounds of it, these times were pretty grim. I do see today's scene as horrific too but from the opposite scale. Would love football today to be somwhere inbetween. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Whenever Gorgie and Clerry Jungle joined up there were big numbers - Barox and Young Mental Drylaw were always represented in the Hearts support. too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRENTICE CROSSES Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 YLT and Lochend Shamrock were pretty hard and Hibs took huge numbers to their Fairs Cup games down south Yep fair point,Hearts had more numbers is a better way of puting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 The Fist of Gorgie would sort those lot right out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Iirc the main g angs from our side of town were Gorgie Jungle , TCR and YBT plus smaller ones like YMASS,Suicide and Clerrie Suicide?where were they from? Crazy name[emoji23] Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 spoke to him last week , the big man is still alive and kicking living quietly nowadays Good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 That's the fellow[emoji106] he was someone I always seen around when I was younger going in pubs before games with my old man, big scary lookin dude...it wasn't until I got on kick back and heard folks stories/memories of him I realised who he was..quite the character..theres a poster on here(sunning himself in france) who knew him pretty well from back in the day and some of the stories beggar belief...they'd make movies of the stuff that he got up,if it happened these days[emoji23] Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Only knew him a wee bit but was at hundreds of games when he was about and had a good few beers with the big guy. Absolute character and a very gently spoken man as well. Delighted to hear he's still on the go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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