SE16 3LN Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 hours ago, ri Alban said: Scottish waters is how much of UK waters? I'd guess at 65%. Three of the most greedy fishing rights families are greedy Scottish capitalist *****. French Haddock and Salmon from Scotland is just around the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: It amazes me still that people get exercised about UK fishing rights. The UK exports over 80% of what it catches, all of which will attract tariffs under the outer Mongolia style deal Johnson now wants. It will decimate the 'British' fishing industry in the same way it will annihilate UK farming. The French or anyone else fishing UK waters is a total irrelevance. Good of you to Trash the livelihoods of the tens of thousands of people who do make a living out of it, directly or indirectly. I suppose its the Tory way. You' are right though the EU, or the common market as it was known, did smash the UK fishing industry, One wonders why we ever joined in the first place. Oh yeah, it was a capitalist club intended to exploit the workers Europe wide. Still happening now and the Nationalists love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said: Good of you to Trash the livelihoods of the tens of thousands of people who do make a living out of it, directly or indirectly. I suppose its the Tory way. You' are right though the EU, or the common market as it was known, did smash the UK fishing industry, One wonders why we ever joined in the first place. Oh yeah, it was a capitalist club intended to exploit the workers Europe wide. Still happening now and the Nationalists love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Nice pic Tim nice but dim, apart from the scarf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Comprehensive trade deal with Japan signed yesterday with zero tariffs for 99% of goods. Strangely no mention on here but we'd have had a few pages if the deal had broken down. Of course it is insignificant compared to trade with the EU but it is a small positive. And detailed negotiations on a deal with the EU resumed today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) On 22/10/2020 at 07:29, The Mighty Thor said: It amazes me still that people get exercised about UK fishing rights. The UK exports over 80% of what it catches, all of which will attract tariffs under the outer Mongolia style deal Johnson now wants. It will decimate the 'British' fishing industry in the same way it will annihilate UK farming. The French or anyone else fishing UK waters is a total irrelevance. Why does the EU get exercised about UK fishing rights? Why did Norway choose not to join the EU in large part because of fishing rights? Someone made the absurd claim that the EU has responsibly maintained fish stocks. Why is the EU so dependent on fish from UK waters. Maybe something to do with the fact the Med and Baltic for example have been overfished to the point of near extinction of most fish and shellfish species? Edited October 23, 2020 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Comprehensive trade deal with Japan signed yesterday with zero tariffs for 99% of goods. Strangely no mention on here but we'd have had a few pages if the deal had broken down. Of course it is insignificant compared to trade with the EU but it is a small positive. And detailed negotiations on a deal with the EU resumed today. This guy lives out that way and knows his onions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Francis Albert said: Comprehensive trade deal with Japan signed yesterday with zero tariffs for 99% of goods. Strangely no mention on here but we'd have had a few pages if the deal had broken down. Of course it is insignificant compared to trade with the EU but it is a small positive. And detailed negotiations on a deal with the EU resumed today. As part of the EU, the UK already had a 99% tariff free trade deal with Japan. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-47086737 So not really strange that nobody (except you) felt the need to hang up the Union Jack bunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 The deal we made with Japan was announced ages ago when it was agreed, it just hadn't been signed. But as the EU and Japan recently signed a deal and the EU has a "preferred partner" clause, Japan couldn't offer the UK as good a deal as it has with the EU. So although it's nice that we have A deal with someone, we're still worse off than we were before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, fancy a brew said: As part of the EU, the UK already had a 99% tariff free trade deal with Japan. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-47086737 So not really strange that nobody (except you) felt the need to hang up the Union Jack bunting. Hang up the Union Jack bunting!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Hang up the Union Jack bunting!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, fancy a brew said: Yes I know what a metaphor is! And what patronising means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Yes I know what a metaphor is! And what patronising means. Well done you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Francis Albert said: Comprehensive trade deal with Japan signed yesterday with zero tariffs for 99% of goods. Strangely no mention on here but we'd have had a few pages if the deal had broken down. Of course it is insignificant compared to trade with the EU but it is a small positive. And detailed negotiations on a deal with the EU resumed today. Fantastic news well done UK Government the futures bright - putting the Great back in Britain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) . Edited October 23, 2020 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Cade said: The deal we made with Japan was announced ages ago when it was agreed, it just hadn't been signed. But as the EU and Japan recently signed a deal and the EU has a "preferred partner" clause, Japan couldn't offer the UK as good a deal as it has with the EU. So although it's nice that we have A deal with someone, we're still worse off than we were before. EU negotiators are apparently delighted with the UK-Japan deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Cade said: The deal we made with Japan was announced ages ago when it was agreed, it just hadn't been signed. But as the EU and Japan recently signed a deal and the EU has a "preferred partner" clause, Japan couldn't offer the UK as good a deal as it has with the EU. So although it's nice that we have A deal with someone, we're still worse off than we were before. Probably make things easier when they move car production out of the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ulysses said: EU negotiators are apparently delighted with the UK-Japan deal. Everybody is happy then apart from the Scottish Nationalists who whinge about everything apart from William Wallace and The Corries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Everybody is happy then apart from the Scottish Nationalists who whinge about everything apart from William Wallace and The Corries Why are the EU negotiators so pleased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Everybody is happy then apart from the Scottish Nationalists who whinge about everything apart from William Wallace and The Corries You really are a moron. Asking why on the coronavirus thread why people cant recognise differing political opinions and debate, then you post shite like the above. Fud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Why are the EU negotiators so pleased? OK you old tease. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: Probably make things easier when they move car production out of the UK. How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Francis Albert said: OK you old tease. Why? 🤣 He posted that and fecked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, ri Alban said: 🤣 He posted that and fecked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Francis Albert said: How? Tarrif free access for cars made in Japan versus proposed tariffs on models constructed in the UK under origin of parts rules within the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Smithee said: I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 22/10/2020 at 10:30, SE16 3LN said: I'd guess at 65%. Three of the most greedy fishing rights families are greedy Scottish capitalist *****. French Haddock and Salmon from Scotland is just around the corner. 62% I have no argument with people voting to leave the EU. What I do argue about is the likes of Michael Gove"Take back control, take back power, take back sovereignty " Then fight to stop Scotland (His birth land) The same rights. That's all. You can't say" Once in a generation " to stop a referendum when" EU membership guaranteed inside the UK" was the biggest reason for a no vote win. It's a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Konrad von Carstein said: You really are a moron. Asking why on the coronavirus thread why people cant recognise differing political opinions and debate, then you post shite like the above. Fud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Konrad von Carstein said: You really are a moron. Asking why on the coronavirus thread why people cant recognise differing political opinions and debate, then you post shite like the above. Fud. Thanks for confirming my point gang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Thanks for confirming my point gang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Can't get over Boris making another final hour demand for UK passport holders to be let through the fast-track EU passport lines at customs. Has he no been paying attention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Cade said: Can't get over Boris making another final hour demand for UK passport holders to be let through the fast-track EU passport lines at customs. Has he no been paying attention? Do Canada or Australia have fast track access through EU passport control? We only asking for the same deal surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Boris is going to wait for the result of the US Election before deciding to go No Deal or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 11 hours ago, Cade said: Boris is going to wait for the result of the US Election before deciding to go No Deal or not. Not surprising. Johnson is a muppet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Barnier staying on in London until Thursday to continue negotiations. Maybe he isn't as convinced as some that the UK Government has always been aiming for no deal? Going by past history of EU negotiations the clock will be stopped at midnight on 31/12/20 until a deal is concluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 8 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Not surprising. Johnson is a muppet. He knows what the result of the US election will be. Which is why the UK government is now trying to cosy up to Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Cade said: Boris is going to wait for the result of the US Election before deciding to go No Deal or not. FA standing by ? Edited October 25, 2020 by CJGJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 23 hours ago, Cade said: Boris is going to wait for the result of the US Election before deciding to go No Deal or not. Can someone explain the rationale behind this alleged bit of news ? Is Boris actually thinking "I hope my pal Donald wins so that I can tell the EU to GTF" ? Why would the result actually have a bearing on whether a UK/EU trade agreement (allegedly 80% now done) is good for us or not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Can someone explain the rationale behind this alleged bit of news ? Is Boris actually thinking "I hope my pal Donald wins so that I can tell the EU to GTF" ? Why would the result actually have a bearing on whether a UK/EU trade agreement (allegedly 80% now done) is good for us or not ? Seems to be the thinking that Trump(pro Brexit anti EU) is more likely to make an early deal with UK and would be happy with a deal that would be undermining to the EU. By contrast Johnson has zero pull with Biden, has a history of sleights against Obama that Biden will be well aware of and any posturing from Johnson that in any way at all undermines the Good Friday Agreement will be viewed in a very dim light in USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, RobboM said: Seems to be the thinking that Trump(pro Brexit anti EU) is more likely to make an early deal with UK and would be happy with a deal that would be undermining to the EU. By contrast Johnson has zero pull with Biden, has a history of sleights against Obama that Biden will be well aware of and any posturing from Johnson that in any way at all undermines the Good Friday Agreement will be viewed in a very dim light in USA. Thanks for that, RobboM. 👍 If that's the rationale going through Boris's head, then I'll be rooting for Biden simply to force the charlatan to confront the reality that our best interests lie in getting a trade deal with the EU - full stop. He promised it, so he'd better deliver it with none of this walking away stuff. Anything with the USA is at best just symbolic ..... and at worst, a threat to UK farming and food & animal welfare standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Lone Striker said: Thanks for that, RobboM. 👍 If that's the rationale going through Boris's head, then I'll be rooting for Biden simply to force the charlatan to confront the reality that our best interests lie in getting a trade deal with the EU - full stop. He promised it, so he'd better deliver it with none of this walking away stuff. Anything with the USA is at best just symbolic ..... and at worst, a threat to UK farming and food & animal welfare standards. Boris wants to walk all over the GFA, but if Trump is out, no trade deal with the USA. Pretty shite doing that to the people of NI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 hours ago, ri Alban said: Boris wants to walk all over the GFA, but if Trump is out, no trade deal with the USA. Pretty shite doing that to the people of NI. I think Johnson would let NI go tbh. Probably scotland too. He’s nothing like PM’s of the past who are 100% pro union remaining. Decent men like John Major always surprise me when I hear them talking about the Union. He’s furious it’s this bad whereas I don’t think BJ cares all that much. One of the dumbest ever to be PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, jack D and coke said: I think Johnson would let NI go tbh. Probably scotland too. He’s nothing like PM’s of the past who are 100% pro union remaining. Decent men like John Major always surprise me when I hear them talking about the Union. He’s furious it’s this bad whereas I don’t think BJ cares all that much. One of the dumbest ever to be PM. Maybe he would let NI go but he can't force them to and they don't want to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, Smithee said: Maybe he would let NI go but he can't force them to and they don't want to leave. I would imagine by now the majority do want to leave. I doubt very much Eire wants them though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Smithee said: Maybe he would let NI go but he can't force them to and they don't want to leave. Well yeah they’d have to vote for it. I just mean he doesn’t really give a shit I reckon. 2 minutes ago, XB52 said: I would imagine by now the majority do want to leave. I doubt very much Eire wants them though I wonder if they really want to take it over too. Risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: Well yeah they’d have to vote for it. I just mean he doesn’t really give a shit I reckon. I wonder if they really want to take it over too. Risky. It would make for quite an anniversary present in 2022 though 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, XB52 said: I would imagine by now the majority do want to leave. I doubt very much Eire wants them though IIRC support for the Union was about the same as support for uniting with Eire earlier this year, both in the 40%+ range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Well yeah they’d have to vote for it. I just mean he doesn’t really give a shit I reckon. I wonder if they really want to take it over too. Risky. No I agree, he doesn't care, I think he finds everything outside england pretty inconvenient to have to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 hours ago, jack D and coke said: I think Johnson would let NI go tbh. Probably scotland too. He’s nothing like PM’s of the past who are 100% pro union remaining. Decent men like John Major always surprise me when I hear them talking about the Union. He’s furious it’s this bad whereas I don’t think BJ cares all that much. One of the dumbest ever to be PM. We'll see what happens after the SNP take a majority at Holyrood. I don't think it's the union he does support , it's more he thinks Scotland, Wales and N Ireland should be English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Turkey and France disagreement getting quite serious now - with Turkey banning French goods - wheels are coming off EU glad United Kingdom (their gravy train) are leaving . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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