Maroon Sailor Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Will be interesting to see if McLeod shakes the referee's hand at the end of this match. Different ref for this session Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Trump gets back to 8-9 Rory should have buried him - 29 was a poor effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 why? Refused to shake a female referee's hand in the past because of the ideology he follows (Islam). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just put a bet on McLeod. Even money. Now kyboshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Trump tries to slam dunk a long red in - misses and scatters the table Just can't help himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Can't see Rory fecking this up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 8 reds left but his break is only 26 so far Making hard work of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The most awkward of breaks so far. Can't get fully in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Pre match odds Trump 1/25 McLeod 12/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Ominous now Trump had one shot at the red and missed it and left it on All over bar the shouting Biggest shock for me since Davis got pumped by Knowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I wont spend my fiver all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Refused to shake a female referee's hand in the past because of the ideology he follows (Islam). if i was his opponent i would not shake his hand due to his attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Trump has only himself to blame 4-0 and taking the pish - thought it was going to be a walk in the park and didn't give his opponent enough respect Massive upset - Maguire can get to the final now - that half of the draw is wide open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Refused to shake a female referee's hand in the past because of the ideology he follows (Islam). Was looking out for the handshake - didn't come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Trump has only himself to blame 4-0 and taking the pish - thought it was going to be a walk in the park and didn't give his opponent enough respect Massive upset - Maguire can get to the final now - that half of the draw is wide open Hawkins or the match chucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Trump has only himself to blame 4-0 and taking the pish - thought it was going to be a walk in the park and didn't give his opponent enough respect Massive upset - Maguire can get to the final now - that half of the draw is wide open Really depends on Higgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Stuart Bingham has forgotten how to play snooker. 4-0 down. First second round game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Stuart Bingham has forgotten how to play snooker. 4-0 down. First second round game. He's done that often since he won the Worlds. Tournament earlier on in the season, 4-0 up, mid sesh interval needing only one more. Came out like he'd just picked up a cue and eventually limped over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Trump played exhibition snooker to race in to a 4 zip lead. After the interval Rory grinds it back to lead 5-4 Trump is rattled and the one thing against him winning this tournament is knowing when to play snazzy shots and when not to. Trump thinks he's a better player than what he actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Trump thinks he's a better player than what he actually is. He's a good player when he is in full flow - he can pot a ball - trouble is he doesn't understand that you can't play exhibition shots all the time. He won't win the World Championship unless he knows how to win a scrappy frame. Not too impressed by him failing to talk to the media either after being dumped out by a 46 year old journeyman pro despite blitzing him in the first 4 frames. He got too cocky / way ahead of himself and appeared to be thinking McLeod was not worthy of playing on the same table as him. Got his comeuppance and I've kind of gone off him. Having said that I'd still rather watch him play than the Rory McLeod's of this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Trump could well become the latest top class player that never reaches the level his ability should merit. The next Stephen Lee, Matthew Stevens or Ali Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 He's a good player when he is in full flow - he can pot a ball - trouble is he doesn't understand that you can't play exhibition shots all the time. He won't win the World Championship unless he knows how to win a scrappy frame. Not too impressed by him failing to talk to the media either after being dumped out by a 46 year old journeyman pro despite blitzing him in the first 4 frames. He got too cocky / way ahead of himself and appeared to be thinking McLeod was not worthy of playing on the same table as him. Got his comeuppance and I've kind of gone off him. Having said that I'd still rather watch him play than the Rory McLeod's of this world. His attitude has barely changed since he joined the tour. Joe Johnson mentioned how Trump generally shows a complete lack of respect for opponents lower ranked/should be beating and how the 'snooker gods' give you a comeuppance. When I went through to the Scottish Open, I was doing a bit of people watching whilst having a cuppa between sessions. The cafe area was next to the entrance/exit for the players and some folk were hanging about for photos and autographs. Everyone bar Trump obliged, with no issue whatsoever. Higgins, for example, said he couldnt on the way out, gave a time for his return and duly came back at that time and stood for snaps etc. Jimmy White had a lengthy line and went down the whole line. Trump? Exited and entered, totally disregarded all requests and pushed a young lad, no older than 8/9, out the way, leaving the boy in tears. Now I know he didn't have to hang around but a general 'I'm really sorry I'm behind schedule' or something would've sufficed but his disdain and general arrogant demeanour, had him looking a prize plum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Didn't realise Trump was like that off the table Glad Rory did him now after reading that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Interesting to hear Murphy's comments but not clever to wind up the best player of all time before a match, I expect him to be soundly beaten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Interesting to hear Murphy's comments but not clever to wind up the best player of all time before a match, I expect him to be soundly beaten Hendry out of retirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hendry out of retirement? My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hendry out of retirement? Haha. Ronnie is a far better player than Hendry, on form he can pot a ball anywhere on the table. And he can play left handed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Haha. Ronnie is a far better player than Hendry, on form he can pot a ball anywhere on the table. And he can play left handed Didnt see Hendry in his pomp and his ball potting ability. And Ronnie isnt the only player who can play opposite handed. See the aforementioned Judd Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Didnt see Hendry in his pomp and his ball potting ability. And Ronnie isnt the only player who can play opposite handed. See the aforementioned Judd Trump. Didn't know that, I guess O'Sullivan has started a trend. O'Sullivan's head to head record with Hendry is very good, much as I liked Hendry O'Sullivan is a different level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I was a huge Hendry fan throughout his career. His strengths, apart from obviously being the best player ever to have played, were his fearsome aura, his concentration, fierce will to win and his incredible break building. But Ronnie is a pure and simple genius. A talent way, way ahead of Hendry. It's not fair to compare like for like but Ronnie is the better player for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hope O'Sullivan thrashes Murphy. There is something very dislikeable about Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Agree about Hendry. I think both at their prime O'Sullivan would edge it as much as it pains me to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I was a huge Hendry fan throughout his career. His strengths, apart from obviously being the best player ever to have played, were his fearsome aura, his concentration, fierce will to win and his incredible break building. But Ronnie is a pure and simple genius. A talent way, way ahead of Hendry. It's not fair to compare like for like but Ronnie is the better player for me.Hendry was the all round package. He didn't flake mentally the way O'Sullivan has. Ronnie the better 'talent', sure. The better 'player', Hendry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidkeye Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 O'Sullivan is the best player to ever pick up a cue, think most of the ex pro's acknowledge that fact. His snooker brain is so fast, however if he had Hendry's general commitment he would have easily broke Hendry's world title's record a long time ago and probably made a thousand century breaks by now too. He may well still do both of those obviously, but Ronnie may well be remembered as a player that should have won and achieved even more. Hendry was a special player but not in the same league as O'Sullivan assuming when both were at the top of their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 Hendry's last world title came when he was only 30. He took advantage of a poor strength in depth 90's and a certain jellyfish in his first 4 world championship finals plus Nigel Bond in another. I would rank O'Sullivan the better player without a doubt, who is still doing the business in to his 40's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Agree about Hendry. I think both at their prime O'Sullivan would edge it as much as it pains me to say it. I'm a big fan of O'Sullivan. One thing to consider if playing same era as Stephen Hendry head to head is Stephen's record against Jimmy White. Stephen broke White mentally - 4 finals in 5 years - and while I accept in theory O'Sullivam might be backed you can't say unless the games were played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Didn't Hendry make Ronnie walk out of a match due to severely beating him in one world championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Didn't Hendry make Ronnie walk out of a match due to severely beating him in one world championship? https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2006/dec/14/snooker.uk He was 4-1 down in best of 17 frame QF of the UK Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Ding 3-1 first half session in Chinese old firm match. 2 centuries by Ding already. Bingham 5 Wilson 7. Hard going!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Didn't Hendry make Ronnie walk out of a match due to severely beating him in one world championship? Ronnie gave Hendry a breeks doon pasting in a semi final. 17-3 or 17-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2004. Hendry was all at sea. No confidence. On the slippery slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Mind when Hendry put away a 147 in the UK Championship final ( final frame decider), after being 2 down with 3 to play, and his opponent being O'Sullivan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Mind when Hendry put away a 147 in the UK Championship final ( final frame decider), after being 2 down with 3 to play, and his opponent being O'Sullivan? Classic. That kind of occasion was what marked Hendry out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Classic. That kind of occasion was what marked Hendry out. Which brings me back to my earlier point. O'Sullivan may be the better 'talent' but to be the better 'player', you need that all round game and serious mental toughness. Hendry had that more than anyone else, something Ronnie often says without prompt. I dont think there is anyone else that would have had the bottle to knock in a maximum, in that type of situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 "He's the greatest player ever to have played this game and the greatest ambassador. I believe this sport should roll the red carpet out for him and invite him into more things like they do for Jack Nicklaus at the Masters. O'Sullivan comments on Hendry in an interview Jan 2017. http://www.livesnooker.com/category/snooker-interviews/osullivan-calls-for-hendry-return-20170119-0004/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Which brings me back to my earlier point. O'Sullivan may be the better 'talent' but to be the better 'player', you need that all round game and serious mental toughness. Hendry had that more than anyone else, something Ronnie often says without prompt. I dont think there is anyone else that would have had the bottle to knock in a maximum, in that type of situation. It's always an interesting debate. Hendry had a knack of winning from behind. More so than Ronnie. Both were good front runners. But I'm placing more emphasis on the ability side of things. The clincher on that score is Ronnie's virtually seamless ability to play left handed. It's an astounding talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 It's always an interesting debate. Hendry had a knack of winning from behind. More so than Ronnie. Both were good front runners. But I'm placing more emphasis on the ability side of things. The clincher on that score is Ronnie's virtually seamless ability to play left handed. It's an astounding talent. I find his safety play more astounding to be honest. He's even the best at that, even though his game is so attacking minded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Ronnie wiping the floor with Murphys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Murphy has gotnit back to 9 frames to 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Ronnie wiping the floor with Murphys Murphy made a decent comeback but still 4 behind 6-10 Finishes tomorrow morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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