The Mighty Thor Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 20 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Eventually you need more than culture wars. 14 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: It's all they've got. It's all they need. They'll rope plenty of the dafties in with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 22 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: It's all they need. They'll rope plenty of the dafties in with that. True, unfortunately. Some people can't function without having some poor **** to vilify and hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 39 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: It's all they need. They'll rope plenty of the dafties in with that. Yeah Going great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 14 hours ago, Victorian said: One of the main reasons they come is the hopelessly broken asylum system. People can come here and spend years while their cases eventually receive a decision. Instead of pretending you're creating a meaningful deterrent of the possibility of being palmed off to Rwanda, the actual solution is to remove or greatly diminish the attraction that encourages people to come. Pour all of the money being wasted into a working processing system that provides decisions in weeks. As well as that, provide safe routes and enter into agreements on numbers, quotas, etc. In tandem, enter agreements that 'illegal' crossings (small boats) arrivals are returned to Europe on the same or next day. No point crossing by small boat. You go back instantly. Come via a safe route. No queues being jumped. Case decided in weeks. Most cases are approved anyway. But solutions are not on the agenda. Perpetuating the manufacted problem is the agenda. On the face of it that sounds eminently sensible but the heady combination of work shy civil servants, missing paperwork, non complying subjects and human rights lawyers turn what should be the answer into a swamp. Must be a better answer than a snakes and ladders trip to Rwanda though. At this stage we can all see it's a performative measure aimed at a small sliver of the population who view this as their number one voting intention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 22 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: On the face of it that sounds eminently sensible but the heady combination of work shy civil servants, missing paperwork, non complying subjects and human rights lawyers turn what should be the answer into a swamp. Must be a better answer than a snakes and ladders trip to Rwanda though. At this stage we can all see it's a performative measure aimed at a small sliver of the population who view this as their number one voting intention. The other main aspect missed out is the actual world refugee law. The one that the new legislation has tried to change but like the new Rwanada law not yet tested in the courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 20 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: No mate I’m no a grass . I did the adult thing by challenging it on this forum . I’ll leave the reporting of comments like that to Humzas army ! However they may be informed by the over stretched police that this type of comment is not covered in the recent hate crime legislation Because. It. Was. A. Joke. 🙄 Adult thing, no. Not even close, it was just a deliberate bad-faith take which many more sensible posters called you out on. In your case, the adult thing to do would be trying to grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Gizmo said: Because. It. Was. A. Joke. 🙄 Adult thing, no. Not even close, it was just a deliberate bad-faith take which many more sensible posters called you out on. In your case, the adult thing to do would be trying to grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Gizmo said: Because. It. Was. A. Joke. 🙄 Adult thing, no. Not even close, it was just a deliberate bad-faith take which many more sensible posters called you out on. In your case, the adult thing to do would be trying to grow up. Oh dear someone lacks humility . You should have seen my post for what it was , a bit of advice , in being careful what you post , as people have different perceptions. If it was a “ joke “ I don’t know who was laughing , apart from the grotesques on this thread . Now please grow up . Is “ bad faith” ? 😂 no that old chestnut 🌰 again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Oh dear someone lacks humility . You should have seen my post for what it was , a bit of advice , in being careful what you post , as people have different perceptions. If it was a “ joke “ I don’t know who was laughing , apart from the grotesques on this thread . Now please grow up . Is “ bad faith” ? 😂 no that old chestnut 🌰 again . 😂😂😂 A neck of solid, untarnished brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 22 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Also UK Home Office hasn't been great at removing people refused asylum. And also a lot of people refused are actually allowed to stay. They really need tackle the family and other ties too that are the main attraction to people wanting to come to the UK. Deport anyone with any overseas extended family. Up to 20 million people which should help get a GPs appointment or a council house. Oooft. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-cameron-deal-send-migrants-110808596.html Carefully coded responses from "call-me-Dave" so as not to annoy his boss by mentioning the "B" word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said: 😂😂😂 A neck of solid, untarnished brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Oooft. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-cameron-deal-send-migrants-110808596.html Carefully coded responses from "call-me-Dave" so as not to annoy his boss by mentioning the "B" word I heard the interview on the radio earlier. Listening to the guy who set fire to the place trying to explain why the building was on fire was really funny. That Eton educated ability to plough on and try to sound convincing when every single human being knows you're talking shite is a rare gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Oh dear someone lacks humility . You should have seen my post for what it was , a bit of advice , in being careful what you post , as people have different perceptions. If it was a “ joke “ I don’t know who was laughing , apart from the grotesques on this thread . Now please grow up . Is “ bad faith” ? 😂 no that old chestnut 🌰 again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Victorian said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 32 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I heard the interview on the radio earlier. Listening to the guy who set fire to the place trying to explain why the building was on fire was really funny. That Eton educated ability to plough on and try to sound convincing when every single human being knows you're talking shite is a rare gift. Tbf, making an absolute **** out of yourself then doubling down and ploughing on when every man and his dug can see that you are looking even more of an arse is not exclusively restricted to Old Etonians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Hiya JJ still obsessed dearie ! ps mind your language it’s rather hateful . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 40 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I heard the interview on the radio earlier. Listening to the guy who set fire to the place trying to explain why the building was on fire was really funny. That Eton educated ability to plough on and try to sound convincing when every single human being knows you're talking shite is a rare gift. to be fair it would appear that similar education was available in Scotland too 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 "The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous" -Joseph Goebbels, 1941 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 19 minutes ago, Cade said: "The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous" -Joseph Goebbels, 1941 how did that work out for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 13 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: how did that work out for him? No balls, from what I hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 hours ago, Cade said: "The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous" -Joseph Goebbels, 1941 Quite a statement from a man who thought that if you tell the masses the same lie often enough, they’ll eventually believe it. My mother was brought up in Nazi Germany and, sadly, still believed some of the crap the Menschen were brainwashed with late into her life. It is a concern to me that some „politicians“, in various countries, are practicing Geobbels‘ theory, with some success, today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) On 24/04/2024 at 15:54, JudyJudyJudy said: Oh dear someone lacks humility . You should have seen my post for what it was , a bit of advice , in being careful what you post , as people have different perceptions. If it was a “ joke “ I don’t know who was laughing , apart from the grotesques on this thread . Now please grow up . Is “ bad faith” ? 😂 no that old chestnut 🌰 again . The day that I need your advice will be the day I've donated half my brain to science. As for growing up, I'd wait for you to catch up but, as Kant once memorably said, "Maturity is having the courage to use one’s own intelligence", so I guess you're proper fecked. Edited April 25 by Gizmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, Gizmo said: The day that I need your advice will be the day I've donated half my brain to science. As for growing up, I'd wait for you to catch up but, as Kant once memorably said, "Maturity is having the courage to use one’s own intelligence", so I guess you're proper fecked. Hhhhhmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 54 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Hhhhhmmmm He read that 'memorable' quote on one of those shan inspirational facebook memes with a setting sun over some mountains or an ocean in the background, nap. Edited April 25 by il Duce McTarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 6 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: He read that 'memorable' quote on one of those shan inspirational facebook memes with a setting sun over some mountains or an ocean in the background, nap. Or a “ hallmark “ card ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, JudyJudyJudy said: Or a “ hallmark “ card ! Correct james. The only reason someone would feel the need to cite Kant in an jibe about your maturity is to give themselves a wee smug smartarse semi. Surely just calling you a childish idiot would suffice, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 16 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Correct james. The only reason someone would feel the need to cite Kant in an jibe about your maturity is to give themselves a wee smug smartarse semi. Surely just calling you a childish idiot would suffice, no? I hate pretentiousness Dirk , “ childish idiot” is k ! I’m in pub having a few celebratory drinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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il Duce McTarkin Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 7 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I hate pretentiousness Dirk It's the lowest of the low, james. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 39 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: It's the lowest of the low, james. Even lower than that, man. Even lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Thick Tory knut. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-68901786 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 20 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Thick Tory knut. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-68901786 Embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 19 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: He read that 'memorable' quote on one of those shan inspirational facebook memes with a setting sun over some mountains or an ocean in the background, nap. Potent words to live by, I'm sure you agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Yeah. So basically Rwanada (safe, peace loving country) has sent armed forces in to massacre people in Congo. A fairly common practice in Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 14 minutes ago, Gizmo said: Potent words to live by, I'm sure you agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 23 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 16 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: If it requires being born rich for your dreams to come true then you're dreaming the wrong dreams, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 15 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Is that Sunak on the right????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 35 minutes ago, Benny Factor said: Is that Sunak on the right????? No. He's further to the right so out of shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, Benny Factor said: Is that Sunak on the right????? 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Tbf Philp was being rhetorical (some might say being a shop's). But he is the go-to guy if you need someone to defend a particular position or policy, regardless of how ridiculous it is. The boy would give a go to defending Hitler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Pray for Rishi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Good that's down and Tory /Reform alliance not far behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Yeah. So basically Rwanada (safe, peace loving country) has sent armed forces in to massacre people in Congo. A fairly common practice in Africa. Rwanda isn't even deemed a safe country and we grant asylum to Rwandan refugees: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/27/revealed-uk-granted-asylum-to-rwandan-refugees-while-arguing-country-was-safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/26/liz-truss-book-first-week-sales-bestseller-list No doubt publishers, booksellers and book readers are just deep state Marxists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Victorian said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/26/liz-truss-book-first-week-sales-bestseller-list No doubt publishers, booksellers and book readers are just deep state Marxists. Always did wonder about the staff of the old George Street Waterstones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 hours ago, Victorian said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/26/liz-truss-book-first-week-sales-bestseller-list No doubt publishers, booksellers and book readers are just deep state Marxists. No-one in their right mind would think that Liz Truss could outsell The Ultimate Air Fryer Cookbook. No-one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 8 hours ago, Ulysses said: No-one in their right mind would think that Liz Truss could outsell The Ultimate Air Fryer Cookbook. No-one. It's just a pity that there was no title of 101 things to do with lettuce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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