jimmy the jambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I don't know if I've got OCD? I can't believe that someone wearing a white top didn't have a spot of dirt on it while playing 93 minutes in. a competitive match - how can someone whose supposed to be pulling strings in midfield ,breaking up play blah blah blah not have his top marked - easy,he's a lazy so n so,wage thief,hope he enjoys the spring in Edinburgh before he goes to someone whose willing to take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I don't know if I've got OCD? I can't believe that someone wearing a white top didn't have a spot of dirt on it while playing 93 minutes in. a competitive match - how can someone whose supposed to be pulling strings in midfield ,breaking up play blah blah blah not have his top marked - easy,he's a lazy so n so,wage thief,hope he enjoys the spring in Edinburgh before he goes to someone whose willing to take him. Most shirts were pristine at full time. Contrast that with Sam's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I don't know if I've got OCD? I can't believe that someone wearing a white top didn't have a spot of dirt on it while playing 93 minutes in. a competitive match - how can someone whose supposed to be pulling strings in midfield ,breaking up play blah blah blah not have his top marked - easy,he's a lazy so n so,wage thief,hope he enjoys the spring in Edinburgh before he goes to someone whose willing to take him. I want him emptied but I thought he did show a positive reaction today to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Some Cigar ash surely? Just goes to show - judging new signings too early either way is a dangerous game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 A journeyman pro who like the other loanees care little for hearts other than receiving a salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 If you want to make the most of someone like him you need good movement ahead of him, we have no movement or anyone wanting the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 If you want to make the most of someone like him you need good movement ahead of him, we have no movement or anyone wanting the ball He's shit because he can't be arsed and because he's nowhere near as good as a few seem to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 He spent today passing sideways or backwards due to the lack of movement around him. That aside, he was doing the work of two men as it would appear that Djoum left his appetite for the game in Africa. It is no surprise that he has been more effective with Cowie to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Loved him at first, then when the chips were down he hid and bottled it. Luxury player, not what we need. We've missed Cowie like mad imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I don't think Tziolis played badly. The big problem is we have no width and he has no one looking to receive a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors1874 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Hes mince Wants too much time on the ball and always looks to play it backward Get rid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I don't think Tziolis played badly. The big problem is we have no width and he has no one looking to receive a pass.This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanthejambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 He is great at the stroll but does not have the work rate or the energy. Also totally one footed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Tam McManus early on in the game on the radio said "he's a player"...said he was the one looking for the ball etc. Maybe his game went backwards like the rest of the team as the game progressed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 In the last three years we seem to be attracting these types of players it's rather worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebles jambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 A journeyman pro who like the other loanees care little for hearts other than receiving a salary. this is spot on, before stealing a wage from us they probably never even heard of ****in Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Guys just on holiday and being paid for it. We have a bunch of guys who couldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighenry Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I don't think Tziolis played badly. The big problem is we have no width and he has no one looking to receive a pass. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 He was for from the worst player today. I thought he actually showed a bit of desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Vespa Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Should have been dropped. He knows he's off at end of season so just ******s about, thinks he's first pick, probably right ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi Hates Hibees Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Thought he was better today than he was Wednesday, wouldn't be hard though. I would rather him along side Cowie. Hopefully that'll be the case on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisnameis Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Did notice the strip but thought he was probably one of our best players today. Not a major accolade. He at least got a foot in and tried to get the team moving forward but had little in front of him to work with. Plenty of others worthy of greater criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Frustrated by him today. Thought he showed more today than on Wednesday. Broke down a few attacks and showed more willing in tackles. However when he came out of position, won his tackle or made his pass or whatever he took a **** age to get back to where he should have been. And as for his amount of backpasses... Didnt notice how muddy his top was Im afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Another in the shopping list of let downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 After an impressive career his legs have gone and he's enjoying a few months in one of Europes most beautiful cities. You can see fleetingly in games the quality technique and composure which allowed him to play for Greece and some big clubs but he's well past his best and we are miles off being good enough to carry such a luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Tony Watt mark2. Gifted player but does not use his talent to best effect. If he did he would never be with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I quite like Tam NcManus as a pundit. Doubt anyone else on here does. I agree with you. He's quite refreshing and talks a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Team Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Absolute nonsense...he was only player today worthy of the name...apart from maybe Nicholson who for once played like a man and took responsibility. Big man was excellent today, but you can't blame him for lack of movement, ability to control a pass or use space. He isn't a killer ball player but he kept possession well when presented with zero options. Put a decent midfield ball player or no. 10 in there (Djoum was awful) and the improvement in team performance would be massive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Never tried a leg today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanthejambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 He is just too slow and can't work the midfield. Can look good on the ball but a lot of the game passes him buy. A midfield with him an Nowak was too pedestrian. Djoum wasn't great either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphiwe Tshabalala Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Currie was better today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I quite like Tam NcManus as a pundit. Doubt anyone else on here does. Yeah, he seems pretty fair even with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyboy Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Glad this free-loader has his own thread ..as I mentioned on another topic, this guy doesn't flatter to deceive he just deceives certain people - the guy is murder. 10 mins against sevco then a bet better against Motherwell (only be use of goal) ..and beyond hopeless against that lot X 2. Him and Martin are brutal and they will be every time they wear our shirt. Martin 3 year contract ****me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 A journeyman pro who like the other loanees care little for hearts other than receiving a salary. He's shit because he can't be arsed and because he's nowhere near as good as a few seem to think. Hes mince Wants too much time on the ball and always looks to play it backward Get rid He was the best (only?) player on the park today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambothommo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 He is great at the stroll but does not have the work rate or the energy. Also totally one footed Describing Tziolis as one footed is like describing Davie Cooper as one footed. He's a playmaker. As others have said above he needs players in front of him making intelligent runs. If they make them he'll find them 9 times out of 10. This stroller label was first ascribed after his introduction against Rangers. It wasn't because he can't be arsed to run about. It's because he doesn't need to sprint to get away from opponents. He'll let the ball do the work. Imagine how effective he'd be with the runs of Stephane Adam, Colin Cameron, or even God forgive me, Cummings in front of him. But at the moment those runs arent happening. I completely disagree he can't be arsed, or is just here for the money - i'm sure he's not short of a few bob. Against Hibs in both games he was gesticulating, coaxing, encouraging his team mates to make runs. And getting pretty frustrated about their inability to see the opportunity. If he can't get it out his team mates when he's standing 5 or 10 metres away in real time, how the hell can Cathro hope to 'get his ideas' over to some of his squad from the technical area. There's a few duds in there no doubt. But IMHO The Greek Stroller isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 He was the best (only?) player on the park today. Haha. You must be joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Describing Tziolis as one footed is like describing Davie Cooper as one footed. He's a playmaker. As others have said above he needs players in front of him making intelligent runs. If they make them he'll find them 9 times out of 10. This stroller label was first ascribed after his introduction against Rangers. It wasn't because he can't be arsed to run about. It's because he doesn't need to sprint to get away from opponents. He'll let the ball do the work. Imagine how effective he'd be with the runs of Stephane Adam, Colin Cameron, or even God forgive me, Cummings in front of him. But at the moment those runs arent happening. I completely disagree he can't be arsed, or is just here for the money - i'm sure he's not short of a few bob. Against Hibs in both games he was gesticulating, coaxing, encouraging his team mates to make runs. And getting pretty frustrated about their inability to see the opportunity. If he can't get it out his team mates when he's standing 5 or 10 metres away in real time, how the hell can Cathro hope to 'get his ideas' over to some of his squad from the technical area. There's a few duds in there no doubt. But IMHO The Greek Stroller isn't one of them. Playmaker? Our best passes today all came from Djoum and he is being hounded on here tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva hate Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Absolute nonsense...he was only player today worthy of the name...apart from maybe Nicholson who for once played like a man and took responsibility. Big man was excellent today, but you can't blame him for lack of movement, ability to control a pass or use space. He isn't a killer ball player but he kept possession well when presented with zero options. Put a decent midfield ball player or no. 10 in there (Djoum was awful) and the improvement in team performance would be massive Spot on. Thought he played really well today and I'm surprised to see a thread singling him out for criticism when other players are far worse. We have struggled to win a game since Djoum has come back and im struggling to see why there are no threads about his lack of effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyboy Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Jambothommo ..it's all about opinions and I respect yours - but I'm just not getting him his mind is slow, he is slow and he continually try's to be overly clever in the last third and gets caught out. Fingers crossed it comes good! And Martin well I haven't seen a thing so far ..dead ball specialist we were told - my hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 For some people unless you're running around like a headless chicken you're not trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Only seen him at tynie, looked at first he could be class, the interviews I've seen suggest he is off after short term deal.We have nobody better to play in his place. I would like to see a team built around him as he no doubt has great quality, who knows maybe him and Takis can bring more Greek gods to tynie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 For some people unless you're running around like a headless chicken you're not trying. Nope. Nobody is suggesting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky999 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 If you want to make the most of someone like him you need good movement ahead of him, we have no movement or anyone wanting the ball Absolutely spot on, ive said before he is caught in possession because nobody in front of him is making a move, his appearance in the Rangers game was top drawer because we had positivity and people getting into position to take a pass from him. You dont get 60 odd caps for greece being s h i t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Absolutely spot on, ive said before he is caught in possession because nobody in front of him is making a move, his appearance in the Rangers game was top drawer because we had positivity and people getting into position to take a pass from him. You dont get 60 odd caps for greece being s h i t Yet all our best creative passing today came from Djoum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky999 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 For some people unless you're running around like a headless chicken you're not trying.We were runing about like headless chickens today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The only player in our whole midfield who is composed, has vision and the quality to make accurate passes. He has the ability to take 2 or three players out with a pass f2f. No his fault the rest of them aren't working hard enough to create an angle for a pass and are quite frankly dugshit. You'd be saying exactly the same if it was Pirlo or Xavi, these guys aren't there to run about clobbering folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky999 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Yet all our best creative passing today came from Djoum.Im not going to disagree, we all know where Djoum should play, and its not where Tziolis plays, being at the front/ centre of midfield is different to being in front of the defence, different pressure/ style and end game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 So basically Tziolis is class but there are excuses every week for why this doesn't show. The pitch is crap. The game is too fast. There is no movement. Etc Etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky999 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I think back to Derek Fergusson when he played for us, he was top drawer but got slated for what were deemed wayward and badly timed passes, when actually it was the players around him that lacked vision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Im not going to disagree, we all know where Djoum should play, and its not where Tziolis plays, being at the front/ centre of midfield is different to being in front of the defence, different pressure/ style and end game Djoum is being hounded on here tonight though, and he did far far more today than Tziolis despite spending over a third of the game out of position. Why aren't excuses for Djoum being rolled out like they are on a weekly basis for Tziolis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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