Mikey1874 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 No idea. With the advent of agents, I'm not sure there is even such a thing as "tapping up" at all anymore. Not great that a club can just take kids out your youth academy though.It would be tough Nothing we can do aside from offering a better route to first team football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 It would be tough Nothing we can do aside from offering a better route to first team football. Depressing situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Depressing situation. If we step back the near total domination of Scottish football by two teams is depressing. I haven't shook off the feeling from my visit to Glasgow on Sunday yet. Chris Hamilton was a joy to watch last night. Just got to hope there will be more. On another aside, Rory Currie was at Celtic for 4 years aged 12 to 16 (book ended by two spells at Rangers. Celtic released him. He chose Hearts over staying at Rangers. Just maybe he could be good. So a little hope. As we build the club the youngsters will hopefully want to come and stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattythejambo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 It would be tough Nothing we can do aside from offering a better route to first team football. The problem is English clubs are offering 6 or 7 times what Hearts are offering and from what I am hearing they are looking at 4 of the u 17 with a view to taking them when they turn 16. We can only hope as you say that a route to first team football will keep them with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattythejambo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 It would be tough Nothing we can do aside from offering a better route to first team football. The problem is English clubs are offering 6 or 7 times what Hearts are offering and from what I am hearing they are looking at 4 of the u 17 with a view to taking them when they turn 16. We can only hope as you say that a route to first team football will keep them with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 The problem is English clubs are offering 6 or 7 times what Hearts are offering and from what I am hearing they are looking at 4 of the u 17 with a view to taking them when they turn 16. We can only hope as you say that a route to first team football will keep them with us. The English money is a change Taking young players from every country in world...for just very few who will make it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 In all this I hope we can be positive It does shed light on our signings. And our current squad. Maybe there isn't an alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 This thread has made be sad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattythejambo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 In all this I hope we can be positive It does shed light on our signings. And our current squad. Maybe there isn't an alternative. Look at the signing we have made over the last few days and if we are honest they are blocking kids getting a chance not that those boys are ready but there must be one or two at the club thinking that me further down the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattythejambo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 In all this I hope we can be positive It does shed light on our signings. And our current squad. Maybe there isn't an alternative. Look at the signing we have made over the last few days and if we are honest they are blocking kids getting a chance not that those boys are ready but there must be one or two at the club thinking that me further down the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Look at the signing we have made over the last few days and if we are honest they are blocking kids getting a chance not that those boys are ready but there must be one or two at the club thinking that me further down the pecking order. Maybe It's back to do we accept lesser results short term for youngsters Will Rory Currie get another game this season? But then for me Jordan McGhee was never good enough while John Souttar is. They looking for top talent. The rest don't get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just reflecting on it and maybe for those of us of that era If the money etc had been there then this is potentially (all the guys might stay at Hearts) the equivalent of Davie Bowman, Gary Mackay and John Robertson all going to English clubs (or Celtic) at 16. They all had the chance too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattythejambo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I would love them to stay and progress into first team squad it would help with the even younger ones they would see that if they knuckle done and work hard they also might get opportunities to move up. In this financial climate youth must be our priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 This thread has made be sad.... Me too. I hate the path football is going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Me too. I hate the path football is going down. I fear for players that jump ship aged 16 to a club which brings in lots of talented youngsters from around the world. It blocks their path and though they may get paid more the development can be stunted. I just hope the Hearts youngsters realise that. Also think Cathro has shown he is not afraid to give young talent a chance. Currie is a prime example, he is now 3rd choice striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Chris was down at Man Utd a year or two back. I think the assessment that came back was that they viewed him as a potential Gary Neville type player. The lads who are 16 before the summer have a decision to make with regard to their education. It's possible that one or more will be tempted to do 5th year at school and do their highers if they were sufficiently academic. It would give them something to fall back on and be able to go straight to college/uni if things didn't work out on the football front. An alternative would be an agreement with the school which would allow a couple of days a week full time with the club and three days at school. I'm pretty sure that all four are at Performance Schools. Marc won't be 16 until December, so it will be next January before he can sign a full time contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I don't know if this will cheer you up or frustrate you Rangers look like losing their wonderkid Billy Gilmour to Arsenal. Permission has been given for a visit to London Arsenal are stepping up their pursuit of Rangers teenager Billy Gilmour after they were given permission to show him around the club over the weekend. Gilmour, 15, has shot to prominence in recent months, having emerged as not only one of Rangers' top young talents, but also one of the hottest prospects in Scottish football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I don't know if this will cheer you up or frustrate you Rangers look like losing their wonderkid Billy Gilmour to Arsenal. Permission has been given for a visit to London Arsenal are stepping up their pursuit of Rangers teenager Billy Gilmour after they were given permission to show him around the club over the weekend. Gilmour, 15, has shot to prominence in recent months, having emerged as not only one of Rangers' top young talents, but also one of the hottest prospects in Scottish football A bit of both to me. The lad is a talented player, no doubt about that, so I'm happy that the lad is following his dream. The lure of the ??? signs will almost certainly be a factor in that decision should he go. However, I can't help but think that he needs to prove himself a bit more that he's got what it takes to make him a bit more that just a prospect. He's only recently started playing with the Rangers U20 side on a regular basis, unlike the lads of the same age at Hearts, and I think his small stature will make it really difficult for him down south at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Chris was down at Man Utd a year or two back. I think the assessment that came back was that they viewed him as a potential Gary Neville type player. The lads who are 16 before the summer have a decision to make with regard to their education. It's possible that one or more will be tempted to do 5th year at school and do their highers if they were sufficiently academic. It would give them something to fall back on and be able to go straight to college/uni if things didn't work out on the football front. An alternative would be an agreement with the school which would allow a couple of days a week full time with the club and three days at school. I'm pretty sure that all four are at Performance Schools. Marc won't be 16 until December, so it will be next January before he can sign a full time contract. I saw Chris is 16 in July (if that is right) Wasn't sure when others turn 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Me too. I hate the path football is going down. If it weren't for hearts I'd be done with it entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I saw Chris is 16 in July (if that is right) Wasn't sure when others turn 16 Anthony - March Harry - April Chris - July Marc - December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Anthony - March Harry - April Chris - July Marc - December Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattythejambo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Anthony - March Harry - April Chris - July Marc - December Was st the St Mirren game before Christmas and heard 2 guys speaking about Marc and how in Engaland he would be playing at u 15 not sure who they were scouts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattythejambo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Anthony - March Harry - April Chris - July Marc - December Was st the St Mirren game before Christmas and heard 2 guys speaking about Marc and how in Engaland he would be playing at u 15 not sure who they were scouts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattythejambo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Anthony - March Harry - April Chris - July Marc - December Was st the St Mirren game before Christmas and heard 2 guys speaking about Marc and how in Engaland he would be playing at u 15 not sure who they were scouts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Was st the St Mirren game before Christmas and heard 2 guys speaking about Marc and how in Engaland he would be playing at u 15 not sure who they were scouts ? Cut off date in England is 1st September rather than up here it's your birth year. The stats of kids at the Scottish Academies are heavily weighted to kids born at the start of the year as they are more developed and physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattythejambo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Was st the St Mirren game before Christmas and heard 2 guys speaking about Marc and how in Engaland he would be playing at u 15 not sure if they were parents or scouts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchardmaroon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Despite the foreign signings we have made - hope they are good but not convinced - I think the club will still in time push through the kids - we have just not had so many lately. If we do I would think these kids will sign on at Hearts as it's a great way to get to the top - going down south you can be lost in the bulk. I remain optimistic!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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