Cade Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Dunno yet, they haven't said anything other than they got hold of it again after telling the rover to increase the length of time it waited for a signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 31 minutes ago, Cade said: Dunno yet, they haven't said anything other than they got hold of it again after telling the rover to increase the length of time it waited for a signal. Fingers crossed. It'd be frustrating if they can make contact with it but it's also permanently grounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just send someone in to turn it back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I don't think they expected it to last this long. If it's out of action well they proved this can be done in the thin Martian atmosphere which previously was uncertain, so all future rovers will probably carry one. Obviously makes sense, scout all around before telling the rover to move and how far to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, JFK-1 said: I don't think they expected it to last this long. If it's out of action well they proved this can be done in the thin Martian atmosphere which previously was uncertain, so all future rovers will probably carry one. Obviously makes sense, scout all around before telling the rover to move and how far to go. They only expected it to make 2 or 3 flights. This was a bare-bones, proof-of-concept experiment. The next one will be state of the art now that we know Martian flight is viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 20 minutes ago, Cade said: They only expected it to make 2 or 3 flights. This was a bare-bones, proof-of-concept experiment. The next one will be state of the art now that we know Martian flight is viable. I'm thinking the next one should be able to scout out potentially interesting sites and independently map a precise course to the site taking it around any obstacles it then sends that data to the rover. Maybe even follow it then intervene in real time to stop it if something unexpected crops up. Obviously we can't do that with the I think it's a 20 minute lag between sending a signal and the signal reaching Mars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 One of Japan's rovers managed to get a good picture of the Lander. It's supposed to be on its side but is resting on the roof instead. Over-rotated on landing as it was on a slope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Mars copter is dead. Damaged a rotor on landing last week when it lost contact. Designed for 5 test flights, made 72. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 NASA’s Mars helicopter, Ingenuity, is grounded for good. But it achieved a lot during its almost three-year adventure on the red planet. NASA’s Mars copter flew high, fast, far, and long. Here are the key stats https://www.digitaltrends.com/space/all-the-key-stats-for-nasas-grounded-mars-helicopter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Japanese have managed to regain contact with their SLIM lander using a lunar orbiter. They're now planning what to do next to get the project back on track. The two tiny wee rovers are both working fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 hours ago, Cade said: Japanese have managed to regain contact with their SLIM lander using a lunar orbiter. They're now planning what to do next to get the project back on track. The two tiny wee rovers are both working fine. Good stuff. I'm really excited at the prospect of putting people back up there. I think the human race really needs it at the moment, tbh, on lots of levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Good stuff. I'm really excited at the prospect of putting people back up there. I think the human race really needs it at the moment, tbh, on lots of levels. Lunar and Mars bases, akin to what we currently have in Antarctica, as a precursor to further exploration of space are pretty much the only hope that our species will not eat itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Live coverage tonight on the BBC online of the US private company, Intuitive, trying to land a spacecraft, Odysseus, on the moon. The landing is expected to be after 11pm. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/science-environment-68349490 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehcaley Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, PortyJambo said: Live coverage tonight on the BBC online of the US private company, Intuitive, trying to land a spacecraft, Odysseus, on the moon. The landing is expected to be after 11pm. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/science-environment-68349490 Not on Flightradar then?🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Been watching the live coverage of the attempted landing. The expected landing time has come and gone, but currently no communication with the lander. Though they say they expected this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Think they initially couldn't find it, got a UK ground station to search for it. Now they say they can confirm the lander is on the surface, it's transmitting but the signal is faint, they need to work to refine it but they think that will work out okay. So it's down and broadcasting, good job. I have always said there is only one space superpower and it's the US by a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 They have a faint signal I see. UK based telescope helping pick it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, ehcaley said: Not on Flightradar then?🤔 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 11 hours ago, ehcaley said: Not on Flightradar then?🤔 Had to land on the moon because of strong winds, right next to the flights that were diverted from Edinburgh airport during the storm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Great job. Well done to them all for nailing it. I expect there to be some land allocated for student flats next week. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 17 hours ago, Homme said: They have a faint signal I see. UK based telescope helping pick it up. Yeah, and there's quite a spin-off for UK companies at the cutting edge of engineering, telecoms, instrumentation, robotics, automation, AI etc to win business from these private spacecraft companies, including over 100 in Scotland. It'll be a huge milestone if they detect water ice at some of these locations. Fascinating times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 SpaceX are pencilling in a tentative "early March" date for the 3rd test launch of Starship. They don't hang about. Still sticking to their "rapid testing, rapid development" ethos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Seems they have come down in a heavily cratered area suggested by NASA as a place to examine as one of the potential sites for the return of humans to the moon on the next Artemis mission. Some of these craters are in permanent shade which is something I always thought they would be looking for. Keeps you out of the blistering heat of direct sunlight and there might be water ice in them. If there's water but only in some select locations that's obviously key. And might be a future point of dispute when China try to get in on the act. The targeted landing site was a cratered terrain next to a 5km-high mountain complex known as Malapert. It's the southernmost point on the Moon ever visited by a spacecraft, at 80 degrees South. It's on the shortlist of locations where Nasa is considering sending astronauts later this decade as part of its Artemis programme. There are some deep craters in this region that never see any sunlight - they're permanently in shadow - and scientists think frozen water could be inside them. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-68377730 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Mid-day tomorrow 14th March (UK time) for a possible launch of SpaceX's third Starship test flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 All engines lit Went up Hot staging worked Booster landed in ocean Ship made it to orbit Fuel transfer worked Payload door opened and closed as it should Re-entry began Ship disintegrated during re-entry Much, much better than the previous test which in turn was much, much better than the first one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 hours ago, Cade said: All engines lit Went up Hot staging worked Booster landed in ocean Ship made it to orbit Fuel transfer worked Payload door opened and closed as it should Re-entry began Ship disintegrated during re-entry Much, much better than the previous test which in turn was much, much better than the first one. Hopefully it keeps getting better.. While I would love to go into space, there are many folk who I would love to just send away never to be seen again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Bigsmak said: Hopefully it keeps getting better.. While I would love to go into space, there are many folk who I would love to just send away never to be seen again The sooner Musk fecks off to play at being King of Mars the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Musk is a giant prick but on one level I have to appreciate him for groundbreaking rocket research. Musk has money to burn and burning it on reusable rocket research in particular is massively helpful in the long term. Some might burn it on porn stars, not Musk. He's a bona fide space pioneer but I don't see Musk or anybody for that matter taking a seat on a rocket to Mars anytime soon and this stage I see absolutely zero point in risking human life travelling to Mars. There is probably little to no chance of colonising Mars this century while improving AI robots will be able to perform any preparatory research we might need. The moon is the real race this century and Musks heavy lift rockets will help with that. Musk is more of a space superpower than China, they must spy the shit out of Musk and SpaceX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 hours ago, JFK-1 said: Musk is more of a space superpower than China, they must spy the shit out of Musk and SpaceX They won't need to try very hard, he'll probably post tweets of all the secrets they would need to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Should be visible for the next few weeks😎 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/12P/Pons–Brooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Partial solar eclipse 8 April https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/in/@2650225?iso=20240408 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Scientists predict a rare nova explosion The nova T Coronae Borealis explodes about once every 80 years. While the world's attention has been focused on the total solar eclipse that will occur later this spring, the distant Corona Borealis binary system – which contains one dead white dwarf star and one ageing red giant star – has been busy gearing up for its own moment of glory: a spectacular nova explosion. The rare cosmic event is expected to take place sometime before September 2024. When it occurs it will likely be visible to the naked eye. No expensive telescope will be needed to witness this spectacular cosmic performance, says Nasa. FULL ARTICLE https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240322-visible-nova-explosion-is-coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 49 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: Scientists predict a rare nova explosion The nova T Coronae Borealis explodes about once every 80 years. While the world's attention has been focused on the total solar eclipse that will occur later this spring, the distant Corona Borealis binary system – which contains one dead white dwarf star and one ageing red giant star – has been busy gearing up for its own moment of glory: a spectacular nova explosion. The rare cosmic event is expected to take place sometime before September 2024. When it occurs it will likely be visible to the naked eye. No expensive telescope will be needed to witness this spectacular cosmic performance, says Nasa. FULL ARTICLE https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240322-visible-nova-explosion-is-coming Hopefully when it happens we will have a clear sky,not holding my breath though,the joys of sky watching in Scotland 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 6 minutes ago, henrysmithsgloves said: Hopefully when it happens we will have a clear sky,not holding my breath though,the joys of sky watching in Scotland 😞 I'm wondering how bright it will be. From ancient Chinese records, they were really good at recording stuff like this. This one they called a guest star because they had no idea what it was, to them it's another star that wasn't there before. Quote In late April 1006 AD a staggeringly bright “guest star” exploded into Earth’s skies in the constellation Lupus. SN 1006 would have been around 16 times brighter than Venus. That's real bright since Venus is typically the brightest object in the night sky aside from the moon. I'm guessing this will be nothing like that because that was a supernova and this is a nova, there's a difference. A supernova is a giant star blasting itself to pieces, a nova only ever happens on the surface of a white dwarf when it's pulled a heap of hydrogen from a neighbouring star. I guess that's why this is so regular, like clockwork it takes that white dwarf 80 years to gather enough hydrogen for an outburst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 hours ago, JFK-1 said: I'm wondering how bright it will be. From ancient Chinese records, they were really good at recording stuff like this. This one they called a guest star because they had no idea what it was, to them it's another star that wasn't there before. That's real bright since Venus is typically the brightest object in the night sky aside from the moon. I'm guessing this will be nothing like that because that was a supernova and this is a nova, there's a difference. A supernova is a giant star blasting itself to pieces, a nova only ever happens on the surface of a white dwarf when it's pulled a heap of hydrogen from a neighbouring star. I guess that's why this is so regular, like clockwork it takes that white dwarf 80 years to gather enough hydrogen for an outburst. What you'll see when the T CrB nova occurs The T CrB star system normally has a visibility magnitude +10 in terms of brightness, according to Nasa. But when the upcoming T CrB nova eruption takes place, the visibility will jump significantly, up to what's known as a magnitude +2, which is far brighter than a +10. To put that into some context, a +2 is a similar level of brightness as the North Star, Polaris. By the time that happens, T CrB will be visible to the naked eye. Those hoping to see the nova display should look in the sky for the constellation Corona Borealis, or the Northern Crown – a small, semicircular arc near Bootes and Hercules, says Nasa. "This is where the outburst will appear as a 'new' bright star," the space agency explains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 10 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: What you'll see when the T CrB nova occurs The T CrB star system normally has a visibility magnitude +10 in terms of brightness, according to Nasa. But when the upcoming T CrB nova eruption takes place, the visibility will jump significantly, up to what's known as a magnitude +2, which is far brighter than a +10. To put that into some context, a +2 is a similar level of brightness as the North Star, Polaris. By the time that happens, T CrB will be visible to the naked eye. Those hoping to see the nova display should look in the sky for the constellation Corona Borealis, or the Northern Crown – a small, semicircular arc near Bootes and Hercules, says Nasa. "This is where the outburst will appear as a 'new' bright star," the space agency explains. It will be an interesting event, but i'm holding out for a really bright supernova. Something like SN 1006 which astronomers estimate to have been about 7,200 light years away. Which just reminded me again we're always looking back in time, which I find irritating but hey what can ya do, Einstein and all. Egyptian astrologer and astronomer Ali ibn Ridwan, writing in a commentary on Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos, stated that the "spectacle was a large circular body, 21⁄2 to 3 times as large as Venus. The sky was shining because of its light. The intensity of its light was a little more than a quarter that of Moon light" (or perhaps "than the light of the Moon when one-quarter illuminated") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 15 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: It will be an interesting event, but i'm holding out for a really bright supernova. Something like SN 1006 which astronomers estimate to have been about 7,200 light years away. Which just reminded me again we're always looking back in time, which I find irritating but hey what can ya do, Einstein and all. Egyptian astrologer and astronomer Ali ibn Ridwan, writing in a commentary on Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos, stated that the "spectacle was a large circular body, 21⁄2 to 3 times as large as Venus. The sky was shining because of its light. The intensity of its light was a little more than a quarter that of Moon light" (or perhaps "than the light of the Moon when one-quarter illuminated") Hopefully Beetlejuice goes around the time Beetlejuice 2 is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 10 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Hopefully Beetlejuice goes around the time Beetlejuice 2 is out. Yeah that could be something else. I knew it was relatively close so just checked on it. For some reason they find it difficult to precisely judge the distance, but the estimate is between 400 to 600 light years. Considerably closer than the 7,200 SN 1006 originates from. That lit up the sky brighter than Venus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 21/03/2024 at 22:27, henrysmithsgloves said: Partial solar eclipse 8 April https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/in/@2650225?iso=20240408 Heading down to Ohio on Monday to see the total eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 7 hours ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said: Heading down to Ohio on Monday to see the total eclipse 😎😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Here's a question, The moon is riddled with huge craters caused by meteors, comets etc, Why isn't Earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 10 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said: Here's a question, The moon is riddled with huge craters caused by meteors, comets etc, Why isn't Earth? Erosion clears them and vegetation and water hide them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 https://www.google.com/search?q=craters+on+earth+from+asteroids&oq=crators+on+earth&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgDEAAYChiABDIGCAAQRRg5MgkIARAAGAoYgAQyCQgCEAAYChiABDIJCAMQABgKGIAEMgkIBBAAGAoYgAQyCQgFEAAYChiABDIJCAYQABgKGIAEMgkIBxAAGAoYgAQyCggIEAAYChgWGB4yDQgJEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgKEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgLEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgMEAAYhgMYgAQYigXSAQg5ODg1ajBqNKgCDrACAQ&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishguy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 11 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said: Here's a question, The moon is riddled with huge craters caused by meteors, comets etc, Why isn't Earth? Earth has an atmosphere, so most objects burn up before impacting the earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 So why does Nasa track Asteroids and comets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 20 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said: Here's a question, The moon is riddled with huge craters caused by meteors, comets etc, Why isn't Earth? There are craters on Earth but, as Superjack says, many are either eroded or covered by water, etc. Some are still visible though, as in below in Arizona. And Earth's atmosphere, as scottishguy says, will burn up many objects that would hit Earth and leave craters like on the Moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 18 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said: So why does Nasa track Asteroids and comets? Because some are big enough not to burn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 If you could actually see all the impact sites on earth it would make the moon look smooth. Bigger target and greater gravitational attraction means the earth has been truly pounded then continually wiped clean There's a report from I think around the middle ages of people witnessing a large impact on the moon, that would be an interesting sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Not a site of an impact,but fascinating non the less😎 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 03/04/2024 at 19:20, Greedy Jambo said: So why does Nasa track Asteroids and comets? https://www.worldatlas.com/space/how-many-asteroids-have-hit-earth.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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